For the women that actually put in that work and was a stay at home mother, and held down the house and errands while you were allowed to get that bread, convince me why she doesn't deserve half? And what does she deserve. It's like this. There aren't enough hours in a day. And having a wife by your side doing shit like your laundry, dishes, taking care of business helps save you TIME. And with that time you can make more money or get more things done. Shit I'm a single man myself and I seriously study 7 hours a day sometimes (true perfectionist) and hit the gym and work. That's my whole day. If I had a woman holdin me down I could get more done. I finally understand why a woman is entitled to half of 'my' shit after* we get together. Now if she didn't do shit and was a trophy wife I say the bitch get nothing but anyways proceed.
Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should get
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Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
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Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
depends on the situation...
marriage isn't uniform.
My wife and I have a pre-nup that actually certifies she gets MORE then half...
but I WOULD NOT recommend that to most men but I've been with her/known her since pre-school so...
this really should be on the main board but dont be surprised by the responses u get there...
depends on the situation...
marriage isn't uniform.
My wife and I have a pre-nup that actually certifies she gets MORE then half...
but I WOULD NOT recommend that to most men but I've been with her/known her since pre-school so...
this really should be on the main board but dont be surprised by the responses u get there...
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Honestly? In full support, I would give a third of what I have. In partnership she could get half, simply because that's step for step, but if she is just doing the job that a wife is supposed to in this context then, a third is more than generous. A third will allow her some breathing room and take care of the kids if you don't have custody or shared.
A third is a nice enough chunk that a man will miss it but it won't cripple him and the resentment of giving it up will also provide a negative in his situation that a lot of women emotionally need to feel when they sever ties with a successful mate.
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Honestly? In full support, I would give a third of what I have. In partnership she could get half, simply because that's step for step, but if she is just doing the job that a wife is supposed to in this context then, a third is more than generous. A third will allow her some breathing room and take care of the kids if you don't have custody or shared.
A third is a nice enough chunk that a man will miss it but it won't cripple him and the resentment of giving it up will also provide a negative in his situation that a lot of women emotionally need to feel when they sever ties with a successful mate.
my .02
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
If the partners were together before the money, the money comes, and they split, the other party (husband or wife) should get half.
If you enter and one of you has money and the other doesn't, the less affluent partner should be entitled to half of money acquired after the marriage.
If the partners were together before the money, the money comes, and they split, the other party (husband or wife) should get half.
If you enter and one of you has money and the other doesn't, the less affluent partner should be entitled to half of money acquired after the marriage.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
The whole "half" argument is silly. If you and your wife are working and you hit lotto, should she get half? - YES!
If the man is working, providing for his family on a level that allows for maids and nannies and the wife isn't doing anything to contribute to the household finances, should she get half? - NO!
The only time you hear this argument is when the man is wealthy and the woman doesn't have any independent income.
The whole "half" argument is silly. If you and your wife are working and you hit lotto, should she get half? - YES!
If the man is working, providing for his family on a level that allows for maids and nannies and the wife isn't doing anything to contribute to the household finances, should she get half? - NO!
The only time you hear this argument is when the man is wealthy and the woman doesn't have any independent income.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
WHAT?! Kill Y'allselves!
The bitch get what I give her!
Why? Because she wouldn't have gotten married if I hadn't given it to her. Think about it.
WHAT?! Kill Y'allselves!
The bitch get what I give her!
Why? Because she wouldn't have gotten married if I hadn't given it to her. Think about it.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Maybe 50 years ago but in this era when women are making as much, if not more in some industries and instances, than men, the scales are evening out. Off the top of my head, I can name two husbands, both Black, who divorced their famous, more affluent wives and got paid (the exes of Anita Baker and Sherri Shepard).
If you as a spouse, sit back and provide everything then don't be shocked that if it ends, you have to kick out. It's only been that way FOREVER. I have no sympathy for stupid people who don't protect themselves.
Maybe 50 years ago but in this era when women are making as much, if not more in some industries and instances, than men, the scales are evening out. Off the top of my head, I can name two husbands, both Black, who divorced their famous, more affluent wives and got paid (the exes of Anita Baker and Sherri Shepard).
If you as a spouse, sit back and provide everything then don't be shocked that if it ends, you have to kick out. It's only been that way FOREVER. I have no sympathy for stupid people who don't protect themselves.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Okay. Tell that to the judge.
WHAT?! Kill Y'allselves!
The bitch get what I give her!
Why? Because she wouldn't have gotten married if I hadn't given it to her. Think about it.
Okay. Tell that to the judge.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
if you had money and you make all the money then when the other leaves they get nada male or female.
i never have and never will understand alimony.
if you choose to leave FOR WHATEVER REASON cheating or not you're choosing to leave me and the lifestyle i provide so il be damn if i provide that lifestyle and you're not with me. its unique to me it is not what you're entitled to. if it was you wouldnt need alimony you'd just be paying your own way and living your life.
if i build and we go to the top and it doesnt work she gets half. no child support though she needs to get a damn job and work
and our time is equally valuable and i am raising my kids too and i am loving and been in the relationship for x amount of time too
so if i can't get compensated for any of that
neither can you. we did the same thing your shit is not worth any extra.
if you had money and you make all the money then when the other leaves they get nada male or female.
i never have and never will understand alimony.
if you choose to leave FOR WHATEVER REASON cheating or not you're choosing to leave me and the lifestyle i provide so il be damn if i provide that lifestyle and you're not with me. its unique to me it is not what you're entitled to. if it was you wouldnt need alimony you'd just be paying your own way and living your life.
if i build and we go to the top and it doesnt work she gets half. no child support though she needs to get a damn job and work
and our time is equally valuable and i am raising my kids too and i am loving and been in the relationship for x amount of time too
so if i can't get compensated for any of that
neither can you. we did the same thing your shit is not worth any extra.
LoneStar29
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Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
It all depends on the specific situation
If she was helping you build your dream up then yeah I can understand why she would want half
But if she was just there for the ride and didnt do shit but be a trophy then no she doesnt deserve anything IMO ... I dont get why he would still have to pay for her to live like she is with him when she isnt anymore ... she should at that point start doing for herself
Whoever has the children full time, if there are any, should get child support though cuz kids are expensive and you taking them out every other week just isnt cuttin it since kids are so costly every single day
It all depends on the specific situation
If she was helping you build your dream up then yeah I can understand why she would want half
But if she was just there for the ride and didnt do shit but be a trophy then no she doesnt deserve anything IMO ... I dont get why he would still have to pay for her to live like she is with him when she isnt anymore ... she should at that point start doing for herself
Whoever has the children full time, if there are any, should get child support though cuz kids are expensive and you taking them out every other week just isnt cuttin it since kids are so costly every single day
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
if i got divorced and i wasn't working when i was married (unlikely) id want spousal support while i work a part time job and go back to school, assuming there are children. if there was no children i don't need shit from you.
but
if there were children id still ask for child support too. now once i get the masters you can stop the spousal support and id find full time work.
but thats only if i wasnt working while we were married.
if i got divorced and i wasn't working when i was married (unlikely) id want spousal support while i work a part time job and go back to school, assuming there are children. if there was no children i don't need shit from you.
but
if there were children id still ask for child support too. now once i get the masters you can stop the spousal support and id find full time work.
but thats only if i wasnt working while we were married.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
child support is fine long as its reasonable and realistic
spousal support im on the fence about
i see what you're saying but at the same time i dont necessarily feel the kids are going with the woman either id want em until my ex got back on her feet then we could see how custody would work out
im already established and well of why make them suffer
child support is fine long as its reasonable and realistic
spousal support im on the fence about
i see what you're saying but at the same time i dont necessarily feel the kids are going with the woman either id want em until my ex got back on her feet then we could see how custody would work out
im already established and well of why make them suffer
LoneStar29
Banned
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Then I guess its fair to say a woman who is with you should be working as well ... cuz her being home taking care of ya'll then of ya'll break you saying "well you dont have a job I'll take the kids" is seriously a huge slap in the face
Then I guess its fair to say a woman who is with you should be working as well ... cuz her being home taking care of ya'll then of ya'll break you saying "well you dont have a job I'll take the kids" is seriously a huge slap in the face
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
she can if she wants to but it isn't necessary that's on her. i'm gonna marry a woman with goals and ambition so its safe to say that she'd probably want to work but again i said its up to her i support her decision either way
but i don't go into the taking care of yall sentiment. cause im not gonna be hands off im going to be hands on. im going to cook im going to clean im going to help with homework if she wants to go somewhere its nothing for her to go and leave the kids with me. that's what families do and that's what parents are supposed to do. it isn't special if she does those things cause 1 that's what she's supposed to do and 2 i'm going to be doing the same exact things.
and me having the kids cause she isn't stable isn't gonna be a slap in the face, if she decides not to work then it'll just be fact. again if she wants to work wants to go to school wants me to pay for her to go to school doesn't want to hold a job any of that i'm going to support my wife. but don't choose not to work then say that i in any way stopped you from achieving anything or stopped you from your career cause you'd be lying.
she can if she wants to but it isn't necessary that's on her. i'm gonna marry a woman with goals and ambition so its safe to say that she'd probably want to work but again i said its up to her i support her decision either way
but i don't go into the taking care of yall sentiment. cause im not gonna be hands off im going to be hands on. im going to cook im going to clean im going to help with homework if she wants to go somewhere its nothing for her to go and leave the kids with me. that's what families do and that's what parents are supposed to do. it isn't special if she does those things cause 1 that's what she's supposed to do and 2 i'm going to be doing the same exact things.
and me having the kids cause she isn't stable isn't gonna be a slap in the face, if she decides not to work then it'll just be fact. again if she wants to work wants to go to school wants me to pay for her to go to school doesn't want to hold a job any of that i'm going to support my wife. but don't choose not to work then say that i in any way stopped you from achieving anything or stopped you from your career cause you'd be lying.
LoneStar29
Banned
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
You're saying its not necessary but it sounds like it kind of is if she wants to be able to keep the kids if ya'll break up ... thats what I mean by a slap in the face ... she spends her time taking care of them and you, then when you break up you tell her she cant have them cuz she isnt working ... but taking care of them was her job and taking them from her after is hurtful
Anyways thats why I could never trust being a stay at home mom cuz I dont want anyone dangling that they have money and I dont over my head ... I think all women should have some form of income coming in on their own and then like you said both share the home responsibilities ... its just easier that way
You're saying its not necessary but it sounds like it kind of is if she wants to be able to keep the kids if ya'll break up ... thats what I mean by a slap in the face ... she spends her time taking care of them and you, then when you break up you tell her she cant have them cuz she isnt working ... but taking care of them was her job and taking them from her after is hurtful
Anyways thats why I could never trust being a stay at home mom cuz I dont want anyone dangling that they have money and I dont over my head ... I think all women should have some form of income coming in on their own and then like you said both share the home responsibilities ... its just easier that way
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
no she just needs to be stable
and there you go with spending her time. my time is valuable as well and i spend my time taking care of them and her too. that's my profession also..as i said im going to be doing all of the things she's doing. cooking cleaning watching playing homework baths the whole thing.
if she could get a job and have a profession but chooses not to work it doesnt go away. so if we break she gets back out there finds a place then she can have rights to the kids. but im not gonna fund her living. and i want the kids.
i don't subscribe to the kids auto going with mom regardless if she worked full time or didn't work at all. i want my kids period. but that's just me. i'd be willing to live with her or have her not move out but we're divorced if it meant that i could see my kids every morning and every night.
no she just needs to be stable
and there you go with spending her time. my time is valuable as well and i spend my time taking care of them and her too. that's my profession also..as i said im going to be doing all of the things she's doing. cooking cleaning watching playing homework baths the whole thing.
if she could get a job and have a profession but chooses not to work it doesnt go away. so if we break she gets back out there finds a place then she can have rights to the kids. but im not gonna fund her living. and i want the kids.
i don't subscribe to the kids auto going with mom regardless if she worked full time or didn't work at all. i want my kids period. but that's just me. i'd be willing to live with her or have her not move out but we're divorced if it meant that i could see my kids every morning and every night.
LoneStar29
Banned
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Ok
I dont think you get what I mean by "her time"
but regardless like I said its just a better idea for both to be working and sharing the responsibilities at home so not one person can feel like they have the upper hand on the other
Ok
I dont think you get what I mean by "her time"
but regardless like I said its just a better idea for both to be working and sharing the responsibilities at home so not one person can feel like they have the upper hand on the other
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
its an equal house as long as it is a house and family
working or non work doesn't come into play
its an equal house as long as it is a house and family
working or non work doesn't come into play
LoneStar29
Banned
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
It doesnt sound or feel like that from your posts
but ok
It doesnt sound or feel like that from your posts
but ok
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
That goes to the part where marriage is looked at as a legal and moral contract. If you break the contract (adultery, neglect, and violence would be breaches), like any other, there's a financial penalty particularly if you were the sole/majority provider in the home.
Two people making working class wages don't worry about alimony but when it's heavily one sided, that's when it comes in.
See this doesn't really happen. Highly successful parents usually aren't also full time parents. There's no way a person can be as dedicated as needed to be very successful and be an equal co-parent. So one parent is doing much more child rearing than the other.
It's an archaic law that goes back to when women (White women) didn't work outside the home and husbands were almost always sole providers. It would be, and still is, incredibly difficult for a woman, most likely with dependent children, to find gainful employment hence alimony was necessary.
Even now, alimony isn't a permanent arrangement and has set time limits.
That goes to the part where marriage is looked at as a legal and moral contract. If you break the contract (adultery, neglect, and violence would be breaches), like any other, there's a financial penalty particularly if you were the sole/majority provider in the home.
Two people making working class wages don't worry about alimony but when it's heavily one sided, that's when it comes in.
See this doesn't really happen. Highly successful parents usually aren't also full time parents. There's no way a person can be as dedicated as needed to be very successful and be an equal co-parent. So one parent is doing much more child rearing than the other.
It's an archaic law that goes back to when women (White women) didn't work outside the home and husbands were almost always sole providers. It would be, and still is, incredibly difficult for a woman, most likely with dependent children, to find gainful employment hence alimony was necessary.
Even now, alimony isn't a permanent arrangement and has set time limits.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
Maybe...but also I'd like to make a point that the woman should get half because if it wasn't for the woman he wouldn't have been able to do it. Or if he is he would have taken a lot longer to get it. It's kinda like the song by james brown 'it's a man's world'. And it is. We make everything and control the wealth in the world and the military. But like james said, it wouldn't be one lil thing without a woman. Without a woman by his side holding him he would have to spend more time doing tedious things, laundry, cooking...a man can actually focus his undivided attention to something. He can make that building because he has the time. He can make that train because he has a support system at home. So without a woman a lot of the shit we see would not exist. That's why in the bible it says the woman is the helper and it teaches her to submit to a godly man. Without a woman a man is lost. That's part of the reason there are so many lost men in this day and age now. Men are responsible for the greatest inventions on this earth and that's not a coincedenc. A woman should be supporting a man because she is better at that and more nurturing then a man. And a man should be out grinding because men are better at exceling in world that's designed by men and for men.
Maybe...but also I'd like to make a point that the woman should get half because if it wasn't for the woman he wouldn't have been able to do it. Or if he is he would have taken a lot longer to get it. It's kinda like the song by james brown 'it's a man's world'. And it is. We make everything and control the wealth in the world and the military. But like james said, it wouldn't be one lil thing without a woman. Without a woman by his side holding him he would have to spend more time doing tedious things, laundry, cooking...a man can actually focus his undivided attention to something. He can make that building because he has the time. He can make that train because he has a support system at home. So without a woman a lot of the shit we see would not exist. That's why in the bible it says the woman is the helper and it teaches her to submit to a godly man. Without a woman a man is lost. That's part of the reason there are so many lost men in this day and age now. Men are responsible for the greatest inventions on this earth and that's not a coincedenc. A woman should be supporting a man because she is better at that and more nurturing then a man. And a man should be out grinding because men are better at exceling in world that's designed by men and for men.
Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
All I know is that my wife works just like I do, makes money just like I do and pays the bills just like I do. I told her from the beginning; "You better go out there and get yours. You got to have something to bring to the table or we ain't getting married. There will be no alimony if we split and if I die, you have to be able to handle the bills." 20 years later, she's handling her business!
She knows that I will always take care of my kids, but if we split, she's on her own.
All I know is that my wife works just like I do, makes money just like I do and pays the bills just like I do. I told her from the beginning; "You better go out there and get yours. You got to have something to bring to the table or we ain't getting married. There will be no alimony if we split and if I die, you have to be able to handle the bills." 20 years later, she's handling her business!
She knows that I will always take care of my kids, but if we split, she's on her own.Re: Real talk fellas, if the wife doesnt deserve half then what do u think she should
All I know is that my wife works just like I do, makes money just like I do and pays the bills just like I do. I told her from the beginning; "You better go out there and get yours. You got to have something to bring to the table or we ain't getting married. There will be no alimony if we split and if I die, you have to be able to handle the bills." 20 years later, she's handling her business!
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