Racial stereotypes persists in college basketball

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By PATRICK REUSSE, Star Tribune
Last update: April 7, 2008 - 11:39 PM
SAN ANTONIO - John Thompson had his Georgetown team in the national championship game three times in four years. The Hoyas lost to North Carolina (and Michael Jordan) in 1982, defeated Houston in 1984 and were upset by Villanova in 1985.

Thompson's appearances in the Final Four invariably included lectures on the stereotypes that the nation's sports media did nothing to dissuade when it came to big-time college teams dominated by black kids from the inner city.

One thing that drove Big John crazy were the television analysts who so often told their audiences that a white kid was hard-working and smart, while a black player was always athletic.

This cliché was repeated so often by Billy Packer, Dick Vitale and the like that someone eventually invented a word to cover it: athleticism.

Big John tried his dangdest to get the media to change its way, but a quarter-century later, the stereotypes still exist with Jay Bilas and this second generation of made-by-ESPN stars.

Bilas could see by February that his beloved Dukies were going nowhere, so he turned to fawning over North Carolina's Tyler Hansbrough to a point that was sickening.

Then, 10 days ago, as Carolina was turning back Louisville, noble veteran Dick Enberg was raving so incessantly over Hansbrough that you wanted someone to splash him with cold water and cool him down.

It could have been 1982 all over again. Hansbrough, the most prominent white player in the country, was doing amazing things because of "effort" like no one had ever seen before on a basketball floor.

Athletic ability? It hardly received a mention as North Carolina and the 6-9 junior made their way to the Final Four.

Media groups and every other organization fell over themselves to honor Hansbrough. He's had a clean sweep of the player of the year awards -- the Rupp, the Naismith, the Robertson, the Associated Press and a few others. He still has not been summoned to accept the Wooden Award, but that undoubtedly will occur.

Admittedly, he's a pretty good player. But there's no way he dominated the college game so completely that players such as Kansas State's Michael Beasley and Davidson's Stephen Curry should go without a plaque.

And we do know this about Hansbrough: For 13 minutes Saturday, he wasn't as good as Kansas' Cole Aldrich, the 6-11 freshman who played at Bloomington Jefferson.

Following the Kansas victory, Aldrich was among three Jayhawks brought to the mass interview session. The annoyance that some reporters have felt over Hansbrough's ESPN/CBS-created mystique came out when Dennis Dodd of CBSSports.com offered this preamble to a question aimed at Aldrich:

"Cole, you were playing against someone who apparently plays the game harder than anyone in college basketball history ...''

This drew a laugh from the assembled journalists, although who knows how many in the large room had joined the Hansbrough landslide with votes for the various player of the year awards?

There was another comical moment a few minutes earlier. The four locker rooms for Saturday's participants were located in the same long hallway. The media was being held back until Kansas concluded CBS' postgame interview and made its way to the locker room.

There was a small TV monitor sitting on a chair at the front of the hallway. The Kansas players happily turned the corner, at the moment CBS was showing Hansbrough's father crying in the stands.

One of the Jayhawks stopped, pointed at the screen, yelped, "Boo hoo,'' and then continued down the hallway.

The team that came to this tournament facing the cliché against which John Thompson was railing so long ago -- black city kids means athletic but helter-skelter -- was Memphis.

And then the Tigers went out and put on one of the great displays of disciplined basketball in Final Four history while destroying UCLA 78-63
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/17376844.html
it's a page 2
 
I wish they would stop using Hansbrough as an example :smh: Dude averaged 20 and 10.

It appears more with people like Nietzel of Michigan State, who shot less than 40% for the year, but was constantly raved about. :smh:

or with teams like Georgetown, UNLV and Michigan. Heck, even Memphis this year. They were villianized. Can anyone see college Republican Greg Anthony as a thug :hmm: or Stacy Augman, but it was good versus evil when they played Duke. :smh:
 
lets see how kevin love is treated for leaving after 1 year as compared to the black players that do it. la times is reporting he's gonna declare.
 
I wish they would stop using Hansbrough as an example :smh: Dude averaged 20 and 10.

It appears more with people like Nietzel of Michigan State, who shot less than 40% for the year, but was constantly raved about. :smh:

I don't think the issue is as much hyping players who don't deserve it as it is the terminology used to describe those players.

white players = effort, hard work, smart
black players = athletic, natural ability, instinctive

All of the top players in college basketball exhibit all 6 six of those attributes but the emphasis is different depending on the players skin color.
 
I wish they would stop using Hansbrough as an example :smh: Dude averaged 20 and 10.

It appears more with people like Nietzel of Michigan State, who shot less than 40% for the year, but was constantly raved about. :smh:

or with teams like Georgetown, UNLV and Michigan. Heck, even Memphis this year. They were villianized. Can anyone see college Republican Greg Anthony as a thug :hmm: or Stacy Augman, but it was good versus evil when they played Duke. :smh:

They are not criticizing Hansborough, They are knocking the media hype & more importantly WHAT the media is hyping. No one thinks Hansborough is not a great college player.
 
They are not criticizing Hansborough, They are knocking the media hype & more importantly WHAT the media is hyping. No one thinks Hansborough is not a great college player.

True Hans was one of the top 5 big men and top 10 players of the year... White boy or not he's a top notch college basketball player
 
With Hansborough it just snowballed...to the point of lunacy.Everytime his name was mentioned,they had to say..."hardest working player ever","never takes a play off",or some other tripe.
Ok...the guy works hard,but damn...STFU will ya...

But the Devil media loves to focus on a white player....when watching a college game,they will seldom be critical of a white player,but will jump all over a black player's mistake.
And they will hype up the white kid like he's the second coming...

I have seen everyone from Lew Alcindor and Elvin Hayes to Magic and Jordan in college...but never have I seen someone as hyped as Hansborough.

 
I don't think the issue is as much hyping players who don't deserve it as it is the terminology used to describe those players.

white players = effort, hard work, smart
black players = athletic, natural ability, instinctive

All of the top players in college basketball exhibit all 6 six of those attributes but the emphasis is different depending on the players skin color.


That's the way it read to me as well.

Racial stereotype cut both ways. There are a number of Black people who won't give a White player credit due no matter what. Or they throw in a bunch of qualifiers when giving him his props ("he's good but...). Notice when suggesting some other player that should have won a year-end award no one named Love, they named Beasley and Curry, good players on lesser teams.

Was Tyler Hansborough a media darling? Yes.

Was he a media creation (like Adam Morrison)? No.
 
I hardly watch college basketball,
but I've noticed this a long time ago..
Just never spoke up on it, bc others may
say I was thinking too much of it.. :smh:
 
True Hans was one of the top 5 big men and top 10 players of the year... White boy or not he's a top notch college basketball player



Man please, Christian L. And Adam Morrison were better than Hansborough.

That dude is average at best
 
I always think back to that Oklahoma team with Stacey King on it. They talked about how athletic the 4 black starters were and the little white kid was the "glue" and the leader who directed them.
 
By PATRICK REUSSE, Star Tribune
Last update: April 7, 2008 - 11:39 PM
SAN ANTONIO - John Thompson had his Georgetown team in the national championship game three times in four years. The Hoyas lost to North Carolina (and Michael Jordan) in 1982, defeated Houston in 1984 and were upset by Villanova in 1985.

Thompson's appearances in the Final Four invariably included lectures on the stereotypes that the nation's sports media did nothing to dissuade when it came to big-time college teams dominated by black kids from the inner city.

One thing that drove Big John crazy were the television analysts who so often told their audiences that a white kid was hard-working and smart, while a black player was always athletic.

This cliché was repeated so often by Billy Packer, Dick Vitale and the like that someone eventually invented a word to cover it: athleticism.

Big John tried his dangdest to get the media to change its way, but a quarter-century later, the stereotypes still exist with Jay Bilas and this second generation of made-by-ESPN stars.

Bilas could see by February that his beloved Dukies were going nowhere, so he turned to fawning over North Carolina's Tyler Hansbrough to a point that was sickening.

Then, 10 days ago, as Carolina was turning back Louisville, noble veteran Dick Enberg was raving so incessantly over Hansbrough that you wanted someone to splash him with cold water and cool him down.

It could have been 1982 all over again. Hansbrough, the most prominent white player in the country, was doing amazing things because of "effort" like no one had ever seen before on a basketball floor.

Athletic ability? It hardly received a mention as North Carolina and the 6-9 junior made their way to the Final Four.

Media groups and every other organization fell over themselves to honor Hansbrough. He's had a clean sweep of the player of the year awards -- the Rupp, the Naismith, the Robertson, the Associated Press and a few others. He still has not been summoned to accept the Wooden Award, but that undoubtedly will occur.

Admittedly, he's a pretty good player. But there's no way he dominated the college game so completely that players such as Kansas State's Michael Beasley and Davidson's Stephen Curry should go without a plaque.

And we do know this about Hansbrough: For 13 minutes Saturday, he wasn't as good as Kansas' Cole Aldrich, the 6-11 freshman who played at Bloomington Jefferson.

Following the Kansas victory, Aldrich was among three Jayhawks brought to the mass interview session. The annoyance that some reporters have felt over Hansbrough's ESPN/CBS-created mystique came out when Dennis Dodd of CBSSports.com offered this preamble to a question aimed at Aldrich:

"Cole, you were playing against someone who apparently plays the game harder than anyone in college basketball history ...''

This drew a laugh from the assembled journalists, although who knows how many in the large room had joined the Hansbrough landslide with votes for the various player of the year awards?

There was another comical moment a few minutes earlier. The four locker rooms for Saturday's participants were located in the same long hallway. The media was being held back until Kansas concluded CBS' postgame interview and made its way to the locker room.

There was a small TV monitor sitting on a chair at the front of the hallway. The Kansas players happily turned the corner, at the moment CBS was showing Hansbrough's father crying in the stands.

One of the Jayhawks stopped, pointed at the screen, yelped, "Boo hoo,'' and then continued down the hallway.

The team that came to this tournament facing the cliché against which John Thompson was railing so long ago -- black city kids means athletic but helter-skelter -- was Memphis.

And then the Tigers went out and put on one of the great displays of disciplined basketball in Final Four history while destroying UCLA 78-63
http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/17376844.html
it's a page 2

good story
 
Good Shit!!!!......
I'm A Duke Fan So I Heard That Shit Every Game With Nelson And Henderson In Comparison To The Rest Of The Team.....
But Fucking Jay Bilas Was On Overkill With That Shit!!!!
It Reminds Me Of A Bout A Year Ago On The Dan Patrick Radio Show, Where A Discussion Broke Out About Black Athletes Who Spoke With Some Sense And Was Educated......they Were Label As "well Spoken"....while White Athletes Were "expected" To Use Correct Grammar......the Shit Ain't Gonna Stop.....
 
but, Hansbrough doesn't have athletic ability.
I don't seen him being as productive in the NBA as Shane Battier, who doesn't have any athletic abilit, either.
 
Man please, Christian L. And Adam Morrison were better than Hansborough.

That dude is average at best

You all are too busy looking at his skin to get it.

He does more with less. He doesn't have amazing quickness or jumping ability, but he goes out and gets 20 and 10. He doesn't have the talent or shooting ability, but he goes out and plays his ass off. He gets that off hard work. That shit isn't invented or made up. I've been watching him for three years. He's about to become North Carolina's all time leading scorer. He's a three time all american. If he gets it next year, that's never been done before.

I'm confused where the criticsm comes from. There's plenty of black players who go in the league and aren't going to do shit. It's too many like Gerald Green who waste their talent. Is Roy Hibbert going to be the next Shaq?

If it's so easy to get 20 and 10, why the fuck aren't you muthafuckas playing ball instead of on this fuckin board. :smh:
 
NBA and College Basketball is all in it together. Thats why they change the rules saying you got to go to the college for one year and not straight to the league because the college game was losing big big big money, and all the great players was going straight to the leage getting paid. Thats why its a rookie salary cap and all the shit because niggas was getting paid right out of high school. And just before that they were saying black players didnt have the basic skills and start drafting all of the foreign players saying they were better, but when it come down to the 4th quater they soft then tissue cant bang with the brothers. The only players worth something is Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker and he is bother. Look at the fab five they made so much money off them. And they trying to add another year I hear them talking about doing March Madness.
P.S FUCK COLLEGE BASKETBALL
 
Tyler Hansbrough = Glen "Big Baby" Davis.

I've never heard the media give Davis the same love as they do with Hansbrough.

Davis still has more skill than Hansbrough because he has had to learn that with his size he wouldn't get the whistle in the college games. Hansbrough is nothing more than a walking charge call in the pros.
 
My problem was brothers playing for "Kansas & Memphis" two institutions that don't give a damn about black people....
 
i watch NCAA basketball...but i'm not a huge fan...nah mean...but 1 ting i know i never seen dick riding like i've saw with this pasty face white boy :smh:...he's good but like most white COLLEGE STARS he won't be doing shit....

like all sports the stereotypes are all up & down in sports...

Urlacher=leader, smart
Ray Lewis= Beast,ball hawk...

:smh:
 
honestly, i don't see hansbrough lasting in the pros for very long at all.

:smh::smh::smh:@ kevin love announcing he's turning pro.

:dunno: at collison deciding to go pro.

these two need to review the way memphis DOMINATED their team and DOMINATED them individually.

:smh::smh::smh: @ ANYONE who thinks that hansbrough will amount to ANYTHING in the pro game.

that big white dude from kansas will likely fair better than BOTH hansbrough and love in the pro game.
 
That was a good read. It's two days later, and I wish now that Memphis had hit those frees. That shit bothers me, and I am not even a Memhpis fan, but I was really pushing for them.
 
Good post and read. Personally, I don't keep up with college b-ball like I used to but this article is on point with something that was pandemic in college b-ball. However, I think it has moved down to an epidemic this decade and could possibly just be a problem by the end of it.
Don't get me wrong, it's a PROBLEM but I remember being a kid watching college sports in the 80's, then in the 90's to now and it has gotten much better, I would say, on the pro level in basketabll in football.

I mean, Tyler is a great COLLEGE player and nothing else. I mean, give it to him. He is not naturally fast, agile or a great shooter but he has what seperates many athletes from the upper crust: HEART! Sure the media was dick ridin'. Hey...it's America so you' used to it.

He is getting this hype because we know, they know and America knows that the NBA will eat his azz alive. College weighs heavier torwards a system and the NBA weighs heavier towards match ups. They want to get all the hype in because there is not much left.

Still, they have gotten much, much, much better in how they refer to black athletes. I love to see it when they don't respect them verbally though because it still lets me know they still see them as a nigga. It helps me not get to comfortable with they azz. Just because they play hip-hop at all the games don't mean sh!t changed. Hey, that's just me.

That's my wooden nickel.
 
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