Quantum Physics: Are we making reality?.. Listen to This

This is what ive been saying even before I somewhat grasped the concepts of quantum physics/reality.

My premise is that the human is in the Dark Age of the mind.My philosophy suggests that the human will wake up out of the dark age of the mind,AKA BELIEVEING he has a finite mind,only when the MASSES of human completely wipes that thought out of the mind.

How can that happen?It will take either generations geared toward that thought,or total extinction and a new start where such a notion of a finite brain become nonexistent.

This also touches on the bible.If the bible had not said that certain things would happen in the future,and so many people placing belief in it,I do not think the things that happen now which match the bible will have happened.
 
There's no matter, just a force and you to assume that behind that force is a mind? Is that an arguement for a deity, or something else?
 
This is what ive been saying even before I somewhat grasped the concepts of quantum physics/reality.

My premise is that the human is in the Dark Age of the mind.My philosophy suggests that the human will wake up out of the dark age of the mind,AKA BELIEVEING he has a finite mind,only when the MASSES of human completely wipes that thought out of the mind.

How can that happen?It will take either generations geared toward that thought,or total extinction and a new start where such a notion of a finite brain become nonexistent.

This also touches on the bible.If the bible had not said that certain things would happen in the future,and so many people placing belief in it,I do not think the things that happen now which match the bible will have happened.

...i know i can an ass...but would you mind elaborating...?
 
WOW, there are several other clips in the OP embed that are worth looking at too!
 
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Great vid and post. Although I follow stuff like this on the reg, sometimes I zone out when they get too technical (for example, not too long ago I tried, but didnt make it through, a PBS documentary on Fractals and kicked my self in the ass for it). But shit like this is awe inspiring.
 
...i know i can an ass...but would you mind elaborating...?

I get his point on the bible prophecies. Basically if you plant a seed in someones mind that something will happen, its all that more likely to happen because subconsciously their actions will make that event occur.

"One often meets his destiny while trying to avoid it." - thats a line from kungfu panda but its true none the less. lol.
 
Nice video but these concepts/philosophies are not new. The question if something exists if there's no one to percieve it is an old philosophical(Philosophy 101) question.

They've taken this philosophical view and applied it to quantum physics to say that as we look closer and closer we will always find something because it's the act of "looking" that creates whatever we're looking for.

I fundamentally disagree with this stand point for several reasons.

1. Human conciousness hasn't always existed; yet the universe is waaaayyy older than human conciousness which means the universe existed before we did.

2. This goes back to the old question: if a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it or see it how do we know if it fell. The answer is simple; there's many events in our world that we don't percieve; doesn't mean they don't exist.

Here's something interesting,
Substitute "human conciousness" with "God conciousness" and it all makes sense. ;)

The universe we live in is a part of God's conciousness which explains the infinite nature of our world.
 
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I fundamentally disagree with this stand point for several reasons.

1. Human conciousness hasn't always existed; yet the universe is waaaayyy older than human conciousness which means the universe existed before we did.

How do you know? Please explain.

2. This goes back to the old question: if a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it or see it how do we know if it fell. The answer is simple; there's many events in our world that we don't percieve; doesn't mean they don't exist.

Like?
How do u know something exists? Explain.
 
Well for starters, I took a shit this morning but you weren't there to see it but it still happened. :lol:

How do I know human conciousness hasn't always existed? This can be approached in so many ways.

Here's one:
Anything that once did not exist but now exists cannot be eternal or always existed based on the proof that it was created. Think of every day objects; cars, houses, trees, dogs, cats, people; everything around us was at some point created. In other words, if we can describe what an object is made of, describing how it was made(or created) then that object must have at some point in time been created and therefore at some point did not exist.

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I fundamentally disagree with this stand point for several reasons.

1. Human conciousness hasn't always existed; yet the universe is waaaayyy older than human conciousness which means the universe existed before we did.

How do you know? Please explain.

2. This goes back to the old question: if a tree falls in a forest but no one is around to hear it or see it how do we know if it fell. The answer is simple; there's many events in our world that we don't percieve; doesn't mean they don't exist.

Like?
How do u know something exists? Explain.

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It goes back to the old philosophical question:
If we discover a clock on the beach and no one is around, how do we know the clock wasn't always there.

Based on my proof, if I can take apart that clock and describe it's internal parts and tell you how it was made then that's proof that it was made.
 
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:yes:Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore. :yes:
 
Well for starters, I took a shit this morning but you weren't there to see it but it still happened. :lol:

How do I know human conciousness hasn't always existed? This can be approached in so many ways.

Here's one:
Anything that once did not exist but now exists cannot be eternal or always existed based on the proof that it was created. Think of every day objects; cars, houses, trees, dogs, cats, people; everything around us was at some point created. In other words, if we can describe what an object is made of, describing how it was made(or created) then that object must have at some point in time been created and therefore at some point did not exist.



It goes back to the old philosophical question:
If we discover a clock on the beach and no one is around, how do we know the clock wasn't always there.

Based on my proof, if I can take apart that clock and describe it's internal parts and tell you how it was made then that's proof that it was made.
:hmm:

"you are not deep - you made your bed, now sleep"
 
This is so close to what most dynamic and victorious Christian believe it isn't funny.

In the flick it mentioned that by counteracting free with hope we create our realities based on expectation of an image in our minds.

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.


Basically we make our realities, dreams and visions come true. If the flick it said it's our expectation or that we look for.

BTW, the bible says, Do not be fooled, no one knows the year, day , or the hour, that the world will end but God, not even the Son.

So, when movie come out like 2012, or terminator when they plant images in your mind, they are only trying to get you to believe in their reality.

By this video, If enough people believe in it then it will be. Becareful how the luminati manipulate your beliefs for the future.

DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE.

Matthew 24:36
"No one knows when that day or hour will come-not the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father,
 
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1. Human consciousness hasn't always existed; yet the universe is waaaayyy older than human consciousness which means the universe existed before we did.

I feel you. But see, everything has its place in the universe. It's possible that human consciousness and nature's consciousness could be the exact same thing. The very ground we walk on is intrinsically connected to us. What I'm saying is, we are not separate from the universe. Therefore, we play a vital part in the universe.

Human Beings are destructive. Nature is destructive.
 
The bible is not the "be all and end all" in this or any conversation, especially for those who may believe there is a philosophy bigger or greater than what the bible teaches....

Love the conversations quantum physics brings up!!! I am wit it!!!
 
Moonhawk Alford has some related and interesting writings here:

http://www.enformy.com/alford.htm#papers3

He was into Quantum Linguistics - a mix of Quantum Physics and Linguistics. His stuff should have been published. Excellent articles on Consciousness, Chomsky, God is a verb not a noun, Creole Grammar, loads more. After his death, it was put online for free.
 
The bible is not the "be all and end all" in this or any conversation, especially for those who may believe there is a philosophy bigger or greater than what the bible teaches....

Love the conversations quantum physics brings up!!! I am wit it!!!

good drop. And Yeah Im with you on this.. considering that 80% of what we know in the bible was "PUT" there by Romans, and decided on by "editors" of their day and age.

90% of what we know about hell/satan is from Dante and Paradise lost.

Quantum Physic will lead to MANY revolutionary things, once we open our minds to other possibilities.
 
a good DVD to watch on this is "what the bleep do we know......" and there is a Dr. named Fred Wolfe who has a podcast on itunes as well as a comic book series on Quantum Physics..
don't know the links, but hopefully you all can find it... yall some googling fools up in here!!!
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Elementary but not refuted. ;)

OK, I will indulge cuz i'm bored.


Well for starters, I took a shit this morning but you weren't there to see it but it still happened. :lol:

How do I know human conciousness hasn't always existed? This can be approached in so many ways.

Here's one:
Anything that once did not exist but now exists cannot be eternal or always existed based on the proof that it was created. Think of every day objects; cars, houses, trees, dogs, cats, people; everything around us was at some point created.

Not created. Transformed from one energy state to another from a universal source of energy. Organic and inorganic matter on earth from material ingredients on the planet (which originated cosmically) and energy from the sun (which also originated cosmically).


In other words, if we can describe what an object is made of, describing how it was made(or created) then that object must have at some point in time been created and therefore at some point did not exist.

This statement is just plain stupid and deserves no response. No offense.

It goes back to the old philosophical question:
If we discover a clock on the beach and no one is around, how do we know the clock wasn't always there.

Based on my proof, if I can take apart that clock and describe it's internal parts and tell you how it was made then that's proof that it was made.

What exactly are you trying to say here?
 
The only way us humans will ever reach our potential is to finally realize there is no god, and to take accountability for...
 
a good DVD to watch on this is "what the bleep do we know......" and there is a Dr. named Fred Wolfe who has a podcast on itunes as well as a comic book series on Quantum Physics..
don't know the links, but hopefully you all can find it... yall some googling fools up in here!!!
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I've got Space-Time and Beyond by Bob Toben, Jack Sarfatti and Fred Wolf. It's a book with comic book style pictures and words suitable for the layman. Then heavy (but understandable if you've a basic grasp of Physics/Quantum-ness) experimental quantum theory at the ends that explains the theory behind the pictures. Great reference list at the end too. It's out of print now but if you see a old secondhand one I'd recommend it.
 
What it seems like to me is that this somewhat validates the ideas that a lot of Natives had with the idea of raindances and chanting things into existence and things like that.

Faith makes the world go round. . . hmm
 
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