PS3 "and the hits just keep on coming........"

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Exactly WTF is Sony's marketing plan???:smh::hmm::smh:

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/208772/playstation-3-has-to-suffer-says-sony-boss/
PlayStation 3 has to suffer, says Sony boss

Sony Europe's David Reeves is almost refreshing at a time when refreshing's in short supply.
PlayStation 3 has to suffer, says Sony boss

What's your prediction for the fight? Pain.

In an intriguing shift from the standard "everything's coming up roses" mantra, Reeves reflects on the company's third quarter losses of $204m by telling The Guardian the company "simply [has] to suffer a little."

"[We have to]...go down in market share and mind-share," says Reeves. "It's like Ali v Foreman - go eight or nine rounds and let him punch himself out. We're still standing, we're still profitable and there's a lot of fight in us. I don't say we will land a knockout blow, but we're there and we're fighting."

That's quite a shift from the vibe back in early 2006, when the PS3 was slowly cycling up its engines on the launch pad. At the time, the company's water carriers were comparably blithe about the system's chances of failure. One game designer went so far as to call the company "smug" and "incredibly arrogant."

Asked about Microsoft's ability to meet its sales projections in May 2006, then Sony president Phil Harrison told the BBC "I doubt they will achieve that," adding "I think the clear advantages of the PS3 will mean that this product is very well accepted in the marketplace" and "We have a great brand and fantastically loyal consumers."

As it's turned out, the PS3's advantages were anything but clear. Sony's brand remains unimpeachable (tally total PlayStation sales including the PS2 and PSP as evidence) but its consumers are either less loyal than it believed, or the loyalists far less numerous. Maybe someone should have been paying closer attention when early polls in Japan suggested over 90% felt the system's launch price was too high.

Reeves says the company's objective is financial, which, though head-slapping obvious, subtly undermines the populist assumption that a system's success index lies singularly in unit sales. Explains Reeves:

Our priority has always been the PS3. The forecast was 10m at the beginning of the year and it's still 10m. If we'd cut the price, lost another billion dollars, we might have had a huge Christmas but it would have been followed by a huge loss.

That certainly sounds sensible. It doesn't make the PS3's golden ticket price point any easier to swallow, but it's a reasonable response to critics  myself included  who've repeatedly singled out the PS3's price as its albatross.

Do you have to lose money to make money? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Judging from Sony's quarterly losses considered alongside PS3 manufacturing costs, holding steady on pricing was, perhaps in hindsight, the wiser choice.

Reeves undercuts his momentum slightly by retreating to value claims to highlight the PS3's prowess:

How do I justify it? Look at the capability of the machines. With PS3, you can go online for free, it's got all the games you want, it's got a Blu-ray drive so you don't need a new player, you can store photos on it, and you've got Home.

Actually, it doesn't have all the games I want (what does?), the Blu-ray drive seems less of a selling point as downloadable video  contrary to my own expectations  may be moving to supersede it. And PlayStation Home? Still a blip on the radar.

Still, it's nice to see someone at Sony with at least a partial grip on reality. Reeves even admits the company has "learned from Nintendo...[and] an enormous amount from Microsoft," concluding that:

Overall, the market has sharpened up individual competitors to do better - we should celebrate the industry and how we've collectively grown it beyond all recognition.

I don't know about you, but I'll drink to that.
 
as long as the PS3 continues to be $399 and up Sony will continue to suffer. And with the economy the way it is now the future is not looking good for Sony.
 
Exactly WTF is Sony's marketing plan???:smh::hmm::smh:

i don't care what their fukkin marketing plan is...i bought one and i use it...that's all that matters...y'all fanboys be acting like y'all have stock invested in sony or microsoft like y'all sitting in on board meetings and shit...
 
Only time will tell, but everyone I know has one, so things aren't quite as bleek as the negative add campaign makes it out to be. You would actually think noone had one. I remember about a year ago BGOL is anti-PS3, but now, most gamers on here have one.

I saw an article a week ago stating that the PS3 and 360 sold the same amount world wide last year, so that's not bad considering 360's solid last quarter after their price drop.
 
your missing the point that they need to be profitable by end of fiscal year. not our year december 2008, but they said by march 31st.

after that who knows maybe the price drop is coming..

it still falls in line with expected price drop month, april.
 
another ps3 bashin thread i have both systems play them both and woundnt care who won lets worry about more important things like rawce vs fiddy
 
So few people understand why a price drop hasn't happened already, and even less understand that dropping the price just because people whine for one would be detrimental for the company. Despite what so many say in the media, the PS3 is selling. It's only by comparison that makes it look anything else. As long as they can ride out the current "turmoil," they can then move ahead with a price drop in the near future.

Months ago, reports showed that manufacturing costs drastically dropped for the PS3, which brought Sony very close to breaking even. I wouldn't be surprised if they are just about prepared for a price drop, but won't pull the trigger until after Killzone's wave subsides. Sony execs have repeatedly said that despite all the outcries for a price drop, they have a company to run. They are in a hole, but they are playing it smart, business-wise. There is nothing anyone can argue against that. It's only been 2 years and change, so again, despite the fact that PS3 has been the media's whipping boy since day 1, Sony is in a position to make a push in the coming months. They obviously don't have the market share at this point, but it all depends on what mind share they have left.
 
SHUT THAT SHIT UP. ITS THE HAVE'S IE PEOPLE WITH MONEY VS PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE IT.

i have a 360 elite, a 360 pro, a wii, a ps2, og xbox, a saturn, a dreamcast, a n64 and a snes. with a total of over 100+ games u.s. and japanese. meaning i can afford 2-3 ps3's. so try again dickhead.
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i don't care what their fukkin marketing plan is...i bought one and i use it...that's all that matters...y'all fanboys be acting like y'all have stock invested in sony or microsoft like y'all sitting in on board meetings and shit...

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i don't care what their fukkin marketing plan is...i bought one and i use it...that's all that matters...y'all fanboys be acting like y'all have stock invested in sony or microsoft like y'all sitting in on board meetings and shit...

You should care very much what their marketing plan is if you want them to continue providing the games and services (with quality) that you want to use.

You can "root" for a company without being a fanboy.
 
this is not as serious as it looks, they are losing money but its not to the point where the ps3 was a total failure. every company plan is to make money before losing it. to me i think they might have put out a to advance console out.
 
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