Phony "HIV Test"???- Another False Positive (Boxer Tommy Morrison is a victim)

[g-money]

Tommy Morrison seems to have been one of the latest victime of this common false postive for these antibody test. In fact he has tested negative four times since December. But many of us know how horrible these test are, in fact there has been no "HIV" test approved by the FDA as a test for HIV and that's enough of an admission right there. How many false positives do you think occur in the black community???? And unlike Tommy Morrison who went back and retested, I'm sure most of those brothers and sisters accept the diagnosis (without ever reading the test package insert where they tell you that you can not use the test as diagnostic test for "HIV"), they then take those harmful meds that cause the very symptoms they attribute to AIDS, and die.


Check out all of the "KNOWN" factors that cause a false postive and I'm sure you can find one for you and I. For example if you have had a flu vaccination you could easily get a false positive, but anyway you can check all that out in the article before the Tommy Morrison article. Also before the Tommy Morrison article there is also an audio interview that touches on the unreliabity on these test.


Factors Known to Cause False-Positive HIV Antibody Test Results (Article)

Audio Interview (HIV testing):
http://www.zshare.net/audio/kim_bannon_hiv_tests_050208-mp3.html

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/6377462

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[kilam]

actually the rapid tests have been shown to be very very accurate in detecting HIV exposure and ALL rapid tests have to be backed up by a blood test anyway.......

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/oraqck.htm

As for your statement about FDA approval
Does this test detect antibodies to HIV-2?

The test is approved to detect antibodies to HIV-1. Data on the test’s sensitivity to detect antibodies to HIV-2 have not been reviewed, and the Food and Drug Administration has not approved the test for this purpose. Because HIV-2 is very rare in the United States, CDC does not recommend routine screening for HIV-2 at this time.

 

[bambota]

you know what...it's a well know fact that "they" are trying to exterminate us any way..... I don't expect my enemy to give me correct information. The fucked up part is that we are still putting our trust in those people. when do people get...once they start taking the so call cure...

 

[g-money]

actually the rapid tests have been shown to be very very accurate in detecting HIV exposure and ALL rapid tests have to be backed up by a blood test anyway.......

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/oraqck.htm

[/B]

Peace Brother,

No, the test that I was referencing with Tommy Morrison was probably testing for "HIV-1". But the whole debate over HIV-1 and HIV-2 is very interesting where you have these different types of HIV that is dependent upon geography causing the same syndrome. But nevertheless the information I have on the rapid test is slightly different than what you were able to find. In fact the information shows that the rapid test are just as faulty as the western blot and others. So check it out when you get a chance. Oh and we must be very careful with the language, remember specificity does not mean accuracy so when we see these test manufactures claim 99% speficity that does not, and I repeat, does not mean the same thing as accuracy.

FDA List Serve - Reports of False Positive Oral Rapid Test Result

On December 16th, 2005, The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued an MMWR Dispatch regarding recent reports of a higher than expected number of false positive test results in certain geographic areas using the oral fluid rapid test for HIV. The Dispatch is available at http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm54d1216a1.htm

The following information is intended to address questions related to the reports of false positive results reported in the MMWR Dispatch:

• CDC, in cooperation with FDA, reminds users of rapid HIV tests that all preliminary positive test results must be confirmed with additional more specific tests in a manner consistent with previously published guidance. (see http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/rapid_testing/materials/qa_guidlines_oraquick.pdf)

• FDA is aware of recent reports of an unexpected increase in false positive results for the OraQuick ADVANCE Rapid HIV-1/2 Antibody Test with oral fluid specimens mainly at testing sites in New York City and San Francisco.

• When whole blood specimens were used for testing, there was no observed increase in the false positive rate of this test at these test sites.

• Some false positive test results are expected with any HIV screening test. For this reason additional testing is always needed to confirm true positive results.

• The OraQuick ADVANCE Rapid HIV-1/2 Antibody Test for use with oral fluid specimens was approved in June 2004 with a reported sensitivity of 99.6% and a specificity of 99.8% based on clinical studies.

• A specificity of 99.8% means that users should expect approximately 2 false positive results out of every 1,000 tests. However, the reported rate of false positive test results has been as high as 9 per thousand in recent months at some locations.

• FDA believes that use of a rapid HIV test on oral fluid can continue as long as test subjects are properly informed about the need for additional testing to confirm or reject preliminary positive results on the rapid screening test.

• FDA is working closely with the manufacturer of OraQuick (OraSure Technologies, Bethlehem Pennsylvania), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and local departments of public health to determine the nature and cause of these findings and will take further actions if needed.

Richard Klein
Office of Special Health Issues
Food and Drug Administration

 

[g-money]

actually the rapid tests have been shown to be very very accurate in detecting HIV exposure and ALL rapid tests have to be backed up by a blood test anyway.......

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/oraqck.htm
[/B]

Another quick point I would make about the rapid test came from the foundation of the test pre-approval. The FDA placed a statement to basically say, you can not use this as a basis of diagnosing if someone with HIV you can only use it as an aid, we must once again watch the language closely. If it was an accuate test that test for "HIV" why even include such a disclaimer. But if we read all of the test package insert you will find very similar disclaimers such as

"At present there is no recognized standard for establishing the presence and absence of HIV-1 antibody in human blood." or something to that effect.


New evidence from the FDA that HIV Tests are Fundamentally Flawed

In a November 7th press release FDA Approves New Rapid HIV Test Kit a series of startling statements were made that are a disquieting reminder of serious questions regarding the validity of HIV tests. The purpose of the press release was to announce the newly approved HIV test called The OraQuick Rapid HIV-1 Antibody Test, manufactured by OraSure Technologies, Inc., Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. The test is claimed to provide results with 99.6 percent accuracy in as little as 20 minutes.

Within the documents provided as part of the FDA's Premarket Approval Information is the following:

"The OraQuick® Rapid HIV-1 Antibody Test is intended for use as a point-of-care test to aid in the diagnosis of infection with HIV-1."

"A reactive result using the OraQuick® Rapid HIV-1 Antibody Test suggests the presence of anti-HIV-1 antibodies in the specimen." (emphasis added.)

There is also interesting new language in this package insert regarding the relationship of HIV to AIDS":

"Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS), AIDS related complex (ARC) and pre-AIDS are thought to be caused by the Human Immundeficiency Virus (HIV)."

18 years after the reported discovery of HIV, it seems remarkable that these statements are so hesitant and qualified. Some experts in diagnostic testing see this as yet another admission that all HIV tests are fundamentally flawed due to the lack of a gold standard, which would be the isolation of HIV.

One of these experts, Dr. Rodney Richards, has over 13 years of experience developing diagnostic technologies, and he collaborated with Abbott Laboratories during the time they developed the "HIV" ELISA and p24 antigen tests. Richards claims that none of the HIV tests approved to date have been validated against the only real gold standard of viral lsolation.

Dr. Richards says that the sort of "disclaimers" recently published with the OraQuick® test appear in all the package inserts for other test kits he has seen. So what about the package inserts for the rest of the tests?

"I would love to get my hands on them, and a list of all 31 test kits along with the respective "disclaimers" regarding diagnosis of infection."

"Only the CDC considers antibodies to be synonymous with 'infection,' and they have never referenced any scientific study to support this declaration."

The problem is, all the test kit package inserts are copyright protected, and when Dr. Richards calls the various manufacturers to get a copy, he gets a run around instead. After spending tens of hours playing this game, he finally gave up.

"If I don't have all 31 package inserts for these products, how can I make declarations like: 'The FDA has currently approved 31 HIV-related diagnostic tests, none of which claim to be able to diagnose the presence or absence of HIV in a sample.'?"...


http://healtoronto.com/oraquick.html

 

[gene cisco]

Agreed, and anyway its dam near a fact that healthy heterosexual men do not get AIDs from straight vaginal sex, its a myth put out by gay males to keep AIDS funding for their nasty asses.

You got a better chance of getting hit by lightening while fucking angelina jolie than being involved in straight vaginal sex and being a healthy man and getting hiv.

I dont know why we let the media fool us.

Its a gay male and injecting drug user disease, that crosses over when these fucks have sex with women.

Tommy lost millions of dollars behind this shit, but since the division is shit he might make it back.