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Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior
Can a regimen of no playdates, no TV, no computer games and hours of
music practice create happy kids? And what happens when they fight
back?
By AMY CHUA

A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically
successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many
math whizzes and music prodigies, what it's like inside the family,
and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because I've
done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were
never allowed to do:

• attend a sleepover

• have a playdate

• be in a school play

• complain about not being in a school play

• watch TV or play computer games

• choose their own extracurricular activities

• get any grade less than an A

• not be the No. 1 student in every subject except gym and drama

• play any instrument other than the piano or violin

• not play the piano or violin.

I'm using the term "Chinese mother" loosely. I know some Korean,
Indian, Jamaican, Irish and Ghanaian parents who qualify too.
Conversely, I know some mothers of Chinese heritage, almost always
born in the West, who are not Chinese mothers, by choice or otherwise.
I'm also using the term "Western parents" loosely. Western parents
come in all varieties.

All the same, even when Western parents think they're being strict,
they usually don't come close to being Chinese mothers. For example,
my Western friends who consider themselves strict make their children
practice their instruments 30 minutes every day. An hour at most. For
a Chinese mother, the first hour is the easy part. It's hours two and
three that get tough.

Despite our squeamishness about cultural stereotypes, there are tons
of studies out there showing marked and quantifiable differences
between Chinese and Westerners when it comes to parenting. In one
study of 50 Western American mothers and 48 Chinese immigrant mothers,
almost 70% of the Western mothers said either that "stressing academic
success is not good for children" or that "parents need to foster the
idea that learning is fun." By contrast, roughly 0% of the Chinese
mothers felt the same way. Instead, the vast majority of the Chinese
mothers said that they believe their children can be "the best"
students, that "academic achievement reflects successful parenting,"
and that if children did not excel at school then there was "a
problem" and parents "were not doing their job." Other studies
indicate that compared to Western parents, Chinese parents spend
approximately 10 times as long every day drilling academic activities
with their children. By contrast, Western kids are more likely to
participate in sports teams.

What Chinese parents understand is that nothing is fun until you're
good at it. To get good at anything you have to work, and children on
their own never want to work, which is why it is crucial to override
their preferences. This often requires fortitude on the part of the
parents because the child will resist; things are always hardest at
the beginning, which is where Western parents tend to give up. But if
done properly, the Chinese strategy produces a virtuous circle.
Tenacious practice, practice, practice is crucial for excellence; rote
repetition is underrated in America. Once a child starts to excel at
something—whether it's math, piano, pitching or ballet—he or she gets
praise, admiration and satisfaction. This builds confidence and makes
the once not-fun activity fun. This in turn makes it easier for the
parent to get the child to work even more.

Chinese parents can get away with things that Western parents can't.
Once when I was young—maybe more than once—when I was extremely
disrespectful to my mother, my father angrily called me "garbage" in
our native Hokkien dialect. It worked really well. I felt terrible and
deeply ashamed of what I had done. But it didn't damage my self-esteem
or anything like that. I knew exactly how highly he thought of me. I
didn't actually think I was worthless or feel like a piece of garbage.

As an adult, I once did the same thing to Sophia, calling her garbage
in English when she acted extremely disrespectfully toward me. When I
mentioned that I had done this at a dinner party, I was immediately
ostracized. One guest named Marcy got so upset she broke down in tears
and had to leave early. My friend Susan, the host, tried to
rehabilitate me with the remaining guests.

The fact is that Chinese parents can do things that would seem
unimaginable—even legally actionable—to Westerners. Chinese mothers
can say to their daughters, "Hey fatty—lose some weight." By contrast,
Western parents have to tiptoe around the issue, talking in terms of
"health" and never ever mentioning the f-word, and their kids still
end up in therapy for eating disorders and negative self-image. (I
also once heard a Western father toast his adult daughter by calling
her "beautiful and incredibly competent." She later told me that made
her feel like garbage.)

Chinese parents can order their kids to get straight As. Western
parents can only ask their kids to try their best. Chinese parents can
say, "You're lazy. All your classmates are getting ahead of you." By
contrast, Western parents have to struggle with their own conflicted
feelings about achievement, and try to persuade themselves that
they're not disappointed about how their kids turned out.

I've thought long and hard about how Chinese parents can get away with
what they do. I think there are three big differences between the
Chinese and Western parental mind-sets.

First, I've noticed that Western parents are extremely anxious about
their children's self-esteem. They worry about how their children will
feel if they fail at something, and they constantly try to reassure
their children about how good they are notwithstanding a mediocre
performance on a test or at a recital. In other words, Western parents
are concerned about their children's psyches. Chinese parents aren't.
They assume strength, not fragility, and as a result they behave very
differently.

For example, if a child comes home with an A-minus on a test, a
Western parent will most likely praise the child. The Chinese mother
will gasp in horror and ask what went wrong. If the child comes home
with a B on the test, some Western parents will still praise the
child. Other Western parents will sit their child down and express
disapproval, but they will be careful not to make their child feel
inadequate or insecure, and they will not call their child "stupid,"
"worthless" or "a disgrace." Privately, the Western parents may worry
that their child does not test well or have aptitude in the subject or
that there is something wrong with the curriculum and possibly the
whole school. If the child's grades do not improve, they may
eventually schedule a meeting with the school principal to challenge
the way the subject is being taught or to call into question the
teacher's credentials.

If a Chinese child gets a B—which would never happen—there would first
be a screaming, hair-tearing explosion. The devastated Chinese mother
would then get dozens, maybe hundreds of practice tests and work
through them with her child for as long as it takes to get the grade
up to an A.

Chinese parents demand perfect grades because they believe that their
child can get them. If their child doesn't get them, the Chinese
parent assumes it's because the child didn't work hard enough. That's
why the solution to substandard performance is always to excoriate,
punish and shame the child. The Chinese parent believes that their
child will be strong enough to take the shaming and to improve from
it. (And when Chinese kids do excel, there is plenty of ego-inflating
parental praise lavished in the privacy of the home.)

Second, Chinese parents believe that their kids owe them everything.
The reason for this is a little unclear, but it's probably a
combination of Confucian filial piety and the fact that the parents
have sacrificed and done so much for their children. (And it's true
that Chinese mothers get in the trenches, putting in long grueling
hours personally tutoring, training, interrogating and spying on their
kids.) Anyway, the understanding is that Chinese children must spend
their lives repaying their parents by obeying them and making them
proud.

By contrast, I don't think most Westerners have the same view of
children being permanently indebted to their parents. My husband, Jed,
actually has the opposite view. "Children don't choose their parents,"
he once said to me. "They don't even choose to be born. It's parents
who foist life on their kids, so it's the parents' responsibility to
provide for them. Kids don't owe their parents anything. Their duty
will be to their own kids." This strikes me as a terrible deal for the
Western parent.

Third, Chinese parents believe that they know what is best for their
children and therefore override all of their children's own desires
and preferences. That's why Chinese daughters can't have boyfriends in
high school and why Chinese kids can't go to sleepaway camp. It's also
why no Chinese kid would ever dare say to their mother, "I got a part
in the school play! I'm Villager Number Six. I'll have to stay after
school for rehearsal every day from 3:00 to 7:00, and I'll also need a
ride on weekends." God help any Chinese kid who tried that one.

Don't get me wrong: It's not that Chinese parents don't care about
their children. Just the opposite. They would give up anything for
their children. It's just an entirely different parenting model.

Here's a story in favor of coercion, Chinese-style. Lulu was about 7,
still playing two instruments, and working on a piano piece called
"The Little White Donkey" by the French composer Jacques Ibert. The
piece is really cute—you can just imagine a little donkey ambling
along a country road with its master—but it's also incredibly
difficult for young players because the two hands have to keep
schizophrenically different rhythms.

Lulu couldn't do it. We worked on it nonstop for a week, drilling each
of her hands separately, over and over. But whenever we tried putting
the hands together, one always morphed into the other, and everything
fell apart. Finally, the day before her lesson, Lulu announced in
exasperation that she was giving up and stomped off.

"Get back to the piano now," I ordered.

"You can't make me."

"Oh yes, I can."

Back at the piano, Lulu made me pay. She punched, thrashed and kicked.
She grabbed the music score and tore it to shreds. I taped the score
back together and encased it in a plastic shield so that it could
never be destroyed again. Then I hauled Lulu's dollhouse to the car
and told her I'd donate it to the Salvation Army piece by piece if she
didn't have "The Little White Donkey" perfect by the next day. When
Lulu said, "I thought you were going to the Salvation Army, why are
you still here?" I threatened her with no lunch, no dinner, no
Christmas or Hanukkah presents, no birthday parties for two, three,
four years. When she still kept playing it wrong, I told her she was
purposely working herself into a frenzy because she was secretly
afraid she couldn't do it. I told her to stop being lazy, cowardly,
self-indulgent and pathetic.

Jed took me aside. He told me to stop insulting Lulu—which I wasn't
even doing, I was just motivating her—and that he didn't think
threatening Lulu was helpful. Also, he said, maybe Lulu really just
couldn't do the technique—perhaps she didn't have the coordination
yet—had I considered that possibility?

"You just don't believe in her," I accused.

"That's ridiculous," Jed said scornfully. "Of course I do."

"Sophia could play the piece when she was this age."

"But Lulu and Sophia are different people," Jed pointed out.

"Oh no, not this," I said, rolling my eyes. "Everyone is special in
their special own way," I mimicked sarcastically. "Even losers are
special in their own special way. Well don't worry, you don't have to
lift a finger. I'm willing to put in as long as it takes, and I'm
happy to be the one hated. And you can be the one they adore because
you make them pancakes and take them to Yankees games."

I rolled up my sleeves and went back to Lulu. I used every weapon and
tactic I could think of. We worked right through dinner into the
night, and I wouldn't let Lulu get up, not for water, not even to go
to the bathroom. The house became a war zone, and I lost my voice
yelling, but still there seemed to be only negative progress, and even
I began to have doubts.

Then, out of the blue, Lulu did it. Her hands suddenly came
together—her right and left hands each doing their own imperturbable
thing—just like that.

Lulu realized it the same time I did. I held my breath. She tried it
tentatively again. Then she played it more confidently and faster, and
still the rhythm held. A moment later, she was beaming.

"Mommy, look—it's easy!" After that, she wanted to play the piece over
and over and wouldn't leave the piano. That night, she came to sleep
in my bed, and we snuggled and hugged, cracking each other up. When
she performed "The Little White Donkey" at a recital a few weeks
later, parents came up to me and said, "What a perfect piece for
Lulu—it's so spunky and so her."

Even Jed gave me credit for that one. Western parents worry a lot
about their children's self-esteem. But as a parent, one of the worst
things you can do for your child's self-esteem is to let them give up.
On the flip side, there's nothing better for building confidence than
learning you can do something you thought you couldn't.

There are all these new books out there portraying Asian mothers as
scheming, callous, overdriven people indifferent to their kids' true
interests. For their part, many Chinese secretly believe that they
care more about their children and are willing to sacrifice much more
for them than Westerners, who seem perfectly content to let their
children turn out badly. I think it's a misunderstanding on both
sides. All decent parents want to do what's best for their children.
The Chinese just have a totally different idea of how to do that.

Western parents try to respect their children's individuality,
encouraging them to pursue their true passions, supporting their
choices, and providing positive reinforcement and a nurturing
environment. By contrast, the Chinese believe that the best way to
protect their children is by preparing them for the future, letting
them see what they're capable of, and arming them with skills, work
habits and inner confidence that no one can ever take away.

—Amy Chua is a professor at Yale Law School and author of "Day of
Empire" and "World on Fire: How Exporting Free Market Democracy Breeds
Ethnic Hatred and Global Instability." This essay is excerpted from
"Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother" by Amy Chua, to be published Tuesday
by the Penguin Press, a member of Penguin Group (USA) Inc. Copyright ©
2011 by Amy Chua.
 
For the record, the article is primarily written to cater to Westerners who want to believe in the Asian caricature of parenting so that this Amy Chua can hawk her shitty book.
 
so what happened to these asian kids?


Using the term Asian is like using the term Black. It's too broad to describe the nuances of different groups (Chinese vs. Japanese vs. Loatian vs. Korean)(Jamaican vs. Nigerian vs. Egyptian etc).

Those Asians are considered Southeast Asians. They emigrate to America with far less than the Chinese, Japs, & Koreans. Whenever positive statistics come out about Asians, it almost always never represents the SE Asians.
 
The Growing Rate of Depression, Suicide Among Asian American Students

http://www.pacificcitizen.org/site/...ssion,_Suicide_Among_Asian_American_Students_

Asian American women ages 15 to 24 lead in the highest suicide rate amongst all ethnic groups, according to the Department of Health and Human Services.

By Christine McFadden, Special to the Pacific Citizen
Published January 6, 2010

Students at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif. were shocked last year when three of their classmates committed suicide almost consecutively. Junior Brian Go, senior Jackson Ho-Leung Wang, and graduate student Long Phan ended their lives within a three-month period and left the campus searching for answers. Wang was within days of his graduation.

Their deaths brought attention to a persistent problem currently on the rise: student suicides. The Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently reported that Asian Pacific Americans are more likely to commit suicide than the average American.

The National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) lists suicide as the third highest cause of death among the 15-to-24 age group in America. Although overall past statistics have shown that suicide rates among APAs are not significantly higher than other minority groups, recent studies reveal that APA students are at high risk.

In both Japan and America, Asian men have higher suicide rates than women. However, Dr. Eliza Noh, an assistant professor at the California State University, Fullerton whose research expertise involves APA suicide, points out that this is because men tend to use more violent methods of killing themselves. Women are still at risk with a higher rate of depression.

In researching suicide among APA women, Noh conducted interviews with 42 women from across the nation who either attempted suicide or experienced suicidal depression. The majority of women were in the age range of students. In her research, she was able to identify several common influences that led to their depression.

Facing Pressures to be a ‘Model Minority’

One major factor is the concept of the “model minority” — a term first coined in the mid-1960s by University of California, Berkeley sociologist William Peterson. The “model minority” originated from Japanese Americans “doing really well in spite of the fact that they had been interned and had gone through a lot of discrimination during World War II,” said Noh.

“The reason for this was that Japanese Americans had the right cultural values that allowed them to do well,” she continued. “And then it just became applied to Chinese Americans and other Asian Americans. The idea is basically that Asian Americans do well in school, do well in work, have few social problems, and they do this through the right cultural values.”

According to Noh, this socially constructed stereotype has become internalized in many APA households, causing higher family expectations and therefore hitting APA students twofold.

Noh, who attended Columbia University, remembers hearing about neighboring East Coast schools like Cornell University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) having high numbers of student suicides.

“At Cornell, they have a lot of gorges — people jumped off [the] gorges,” she said.

According to New America Media, from 1996 to 2006, of the 21 students who committed suicide at Cornell, 13 were APA. This 61.9 percentage is significantly higher than the overall percent of APA students, which is 14.

From 1964 to 2000, the average number of MIT undergraduate student suicides was nearly three times that of many as the national campus average, with 21.2 students out of every 100,000 committing suicide in comparison to 7.5, with 11.7 as the national overall average.

However, national suicide rates in 2004 show Asian/Pacific Islanders suffering from similar suicide rates to other minorities such as Hispanics and Non-Hispanic Blacks, with 5.8 suicides per 100,000
in comparison to 5.9 and 5.3, respectively. The numbers for Asian/Pacific Islanders has increased.

“I don’t experience a lot of stress myself, actually, but for everybody it’s different,” said Stephen Ge, a Chinese American MIT sophomore. “The only thing in common with everybody is the work; that’s what most people are stressed out about. I think people usually deal with it pretty well. I’ve never actually had negative stress too much, but people are still stressed out for sure.”

Ge can only recall hearing about one suicide happening during his time thus far at MIT, though he has heard of past suicides and sees daily reminders of maintaining mental health with signs posted in dorms and near elevators.

In Palo Alto, Calif., a recent string of suicides at Henry M. Gunn High School — ranked number 67 by U.S. News and World Report as one of the nation’s “Best High Schools” — has caused some to speculate that high levels of stress and expectations are what contributed to the deaths, in addition to suicide contagion (suicide clusters or imitative deaths) and many other factors. In the past eight months, three students and one prospective student have taken their own lives.

“Asian Americans take up 30 percent of the school and we’ve had four suicide cases,” said Stanford University sophomore Heming Yip, who graduated from Henry M. Gunn High School in 2008. “I’m not sure anyone can or should draw any conclusions from that.”

Yip was voted “Most Stressed” in high school, receiving perfect to near-perfect scores on all of his standardized tests. He is currently attending one of the nation’s top-tiered universities. Yip falls under several categories specified by Noh as major contributors to suicide. However, he has never faced depression or ever once contemplated ending his life.

“I’m not the type to internalize stress. I’m just very vocal and expressive about stress, which is how half the school knew about it,” he explained.

Although he acknowledges that, in general, APAs seem to be subject to more academic stress than other racial groups, Yip does not recall his APA friends at Henry M. Gunn High School (two of whom landed perfect 2400 SAT scores) being subjected to exceptional amounts of stress.

Despite some evidence pointing toward APA students’ suicide rate falling within the vicinity of other minority students, Noh said that the statistics are sometimes misleading.

“If you look at the rates, it looks like Asian Americans aren’t at risk,” she says. “If you look at the rates in a different way — what proportions of Asian American students died in suicide, leading cause of death, specific age and gender groups — I think it’s really important to look at the factors within their own context.”

APA women ages 15 to 24 lead in the highest suicide rate amongst all ethnic groups, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. Noh’s older sister committed suicide while in college.

The Road to Recuperation

Noh also noted cultural barriers as a factor behind suicide. Many APA women often avoid seeking clinical help and sometimes prefer alternative methods of healing. In addition, she pointed out heredity, (studies show that depression runs within families), religious beliefs (some rituals — for example, Seppuku, the act of a Samurai killing himself to avoid shame — permit suicide, although she said the majority of Asian communities see suicide as a weakness), and regional/socioeconomic demographics as all factors related to suicide and depression.

Although national figures and numerous factors behind suicide may show a grim outlook for APA students, Noh encountered several successful methods of recovery among the women she interviewed. While several chose to take medication and enlist in clinical help, the majority turned to alternative forms of recovery.

“A lot of women kept journals and they thought that to be very therapeutic,” said Noh.

Other methods included spiritual recovery, traditional herbal medicine and acupuncture, and partaking in social or cultural activities as creative outlets and as methods of “venting their pain.”

At MIT, Ge said that abundant extracurricular opportunities on campus such as dance and sports help students to relieve stress and “focus on something other than academics.” MIT additionally eases its grading system for beginning students, not differentiating between pluses or minuses, capping units, and recording first semester classes only if they pass.

“Definitely [during the] first year, it helps people,” said Ge. “It takes off a lot of the pressure. I think it definitely helps.”

Students facing depression or contemplating suicide can call:
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
1-800-273-8255 (TALK)
1-800-784-2433 (SUICIDE)

Asian LifeNet Hotline
1-877-990-8585
Help is provided 24 hours a day. Languages offered include: Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Fujanese
 
I went to prep school and then later top 10 university and professional school with countless Korean, Japanese and Chinese people who were raised like this. The article conveniently fails to mention that asian women who were raised like this will inevitably be coke whores by the time they reach their junior year in college and then will go to the "highest bidding" old white banker/lawyer by the time they are in their late 20s. Isn't the author herself married to a white Yale Law prof? :lol:
 
Using the term Asian is like using the term Black. It's too broad to describe the nuances of different groups (Chinese vs. Japanese vs. Loatian vs. Korean)(Jamaican vs. Nigerian vs. Egyptian etc).

Those Asians are considered Southeast Asians. They emigrate to America with far less than the Chinese, Japs, & Koreans. Whenever positive statistics come out about Asians, it almost always never represents the SE Asians.
and u can look at them and tell where they are form?
 
I went to prep school and then later top 10 university and professional school with countless Korean, Japanese and Chinese people who were raised like this. The article conveniently fails to mention that asian women who were raised like this will inevitably be coke whores by the time they reach their junior year in college and then will go to the "highest bidding" old white banker/lawyer by the time they are in their late 20s. Isn't the author herself married to a white Yale Law prof? :lol:

:lol: i was gonna point that out but i didnt want to take away from the article itself.
 
Personally, I think the best form of parenting is depriving most of the luxuries of life (not the necessities) and let their inner ambition and work ethic grow so that they could value and attain better things in life.
 
You need a strict parent to be successful imo ... wish my peoples were harder on me tbh
 
Good post.I agree with much of it.IMO our society babies or kids too much.We don't put ANY pressure on them and they end up lazy and unmotivated as adults.I just had breakfast with a chick from Jamaica and she told me that in Jamaica they rank you in your classes.That would never work here because people would whine about how the children at the bottom would feel.
 
I know in NYC, them kids don't listen to SHIT they mothers tell them and identify with everything white, yeah that's superior alright.
 
I ain't buying it...and I I'm not going to make a generalization, but many seem to have the social skills of peanut...Fuck that, I won't dismiss their cultural up bringing all together...but I'm very comfortable how mine are raised...One National Honor Society, full scholar, to a great university, and a second grader, reading on a 8th grade level, and a 1st grader, bout to out do his brother...and I they love Wii, but then again their parents are no joke themselves...If I may add:cool:

But then again, their mom is Chinese Jamaican:eek:
 
She conveniently left out the suicide rates of Asians - especially Asian women.

I think that their parents failed to show them the reality of life. For example,

1. the abject poverty of rural villages
2. the hyperglobalization impact on jobs and outsourcing
3. things that interviewers value in certain industries
4. the failures of certain cultures and empires
etc....

There needs to be a shock factor of reality in parenting. Let them see how STDs affect the body, how students who score Bs and Cs end up as a Starbucks barrista, how the poor get shafted as the divide between the rich and poor expands, etc. Let kids know that grades are not everything but do play an extremely important role in building certain skills necessary for life.
 
African Parents are just like this or even more strict. Which is why they get more degrees than any group in the country including Asians. So it's good to be strict with your kids. If I ever have kids I wouldn't allow failure either.
 
and u can look at them and tell where they are form?
mostly yes. there are certain mannerisms, skin tones and accents
Its funny you mention skin-tone.Japanese,Koreans,Chinese are some of the most arrogant,ignorant,racist people,even when it comes to other asians.Throughout history thats been one of their major downfalls.
 
African Parents are just like this or even more strict. Which is why they get more degrees than any group in the country including Asians. So it's good to be strict with your kids. If I ever have kids I wouldn't allow failure either.
I think this applies to new immigrant parents period.
 
I know you are mixed, but---get this bullshit out of here. Full of stereotypes which are not even true. Obviously with 1 billion people and many still living in poverty, the upbringing you are promoting is not as perfect as you think. Besides, a lot of the things in the "article" can be said of parenting in most other nations. For example, it's never been the IN thing for parents to let their kids stay at the homes of anyone other than relatives.
 
so what happened to these asian kids?


Ok was that real? Those were Filipinos second of all no Chinese people. Third how you going to let some bitch hit you in the face? you can legally go off and kill the fuck after they attack you unprovoked.
 
For the record, the article is primarily written to cater to Westerners who want to believe in the Asian caricature of parenting so that this Amy Chua can hawk her shitty book.

its funny that i could tell she was asian married to a white person and writing for a white audience.

similar to my cousin who is married to a white man and always tells white people these fuckin wack ass exaggerated stories about growing up in a black family trying to make shit seem so exotic.

anyway, the similarities that i see between families of kids that perform at a high level is

a. the kids home life is so strict that other people question whether the kid can be happy living like that
b. the family instills an idea in the kid that when he/she doesnt perform at a certain level, they are bringing shame to the family

seen it in all types of kids over the years but yea in chinese and west african the most.
 
Good article. Nice replies. Eastern culture, at its core, is just different from Western cuture. At the end of the day, discipline in whatever you choose to do is necessary to be successful, PERIOD.
 
Good post.I agree with much of it.IMO our society babies or kids too much.We don't put ANY pressure on them and they end up lazy and unmotivated as adults.I just had breakfast with a chick from Jamaica and she told me that in Jamaica they rank you in your classes.That would never work here because people would whine about how the children at the bottom would feel.

Yup. They do.
 
I went to prep school and then later top 10 university and professional school with countless Korean, Japanese and Chinese people who were raised like this. The article conveniently fails to mention that asian women who were raised like this will inevitably be coke whores by the time they reach their junior year in college and then will go to the "highest bidding" old white banker/lawyer by the time they are in their late 20s. Isn't the author herself married to a white Yale Law prof? :lol:

Saw this will I was a student at the University of Oklahoma. Me and one of my boys went to this all Asian sorority party. We ended up rapping with these Asian dudes there and they told us that they couldn't wait to graduate from (insert hard science/math/medicine major) so that they could pick which Asian chick out of a line up for a life of servitude and dick downs on there way out the door. "Oh, she'll fuck you cause your buff and black, but when it's time to graduate...that ass is mine unless she wants to be disowned!"


Parenting at it's finest.:D

"There is only one woman in the world. One woman, with many faces. "- The Last Temptation of Chirst:hmm:



*two cents*
 
Damn. My kids are all straight A students and I didn't go to any extremes like that article. Actually, mine are probably spoiled.
 
I know you are mixed, but---get this bullshit out of here. Full of stereotypes which are not even true. Obviously with 1 billion people and many still living in poverty, the upbringing you are promoting is not as perfect as you think. Besides, a lot of the things in the "article" can be said of parenting in most other nations. For example, it's never been the IN thing for parents to let their kids stay at the homes of anyone other than relatives.



C/S!!!!! There are A LOT of 'failures' in Asia....Africa too.

Not everybody is going to be president and someone has to dig those ditches...:hmm:


*two cents*
 
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