Oklahoma City Thunder Get T Chandler from New Orleans Hornets

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The New Orleans Hornets and Oklahoma City Thunder have completed a deal that sends center Tyson Chandler to the Thunder, according to NBA front-office sources.

Sources with knowledge of the trade parameters told ESPN.com that the deal was approved by the league office Tuesday afternoon, with the Hornets receiving forwards Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox in exchange for their best interior defender.

The deal has yet to be announced by the teams, but sources say that the Hornets will also receive the draft rights to Devon Hardin, who was selected No. 50 overall by the Thunder in the 2008 draft.

The Hornets play Tuesday night against the Thunder in Oklahoma City but the players involved in the trade are not expected to participate in the game.

ESPN.com reported early Monday that the Hornets -- who have been looking to move Chandler mostly for financial reasons -- were in talks with the Thunder on a trade that would net the expiring contracts of Smith and Wilcox. Thunder general manager Sam Presti is a long-time admirer of Chandler dating to his time with the San Antonio Spurs.

The Thunder also possess numerous draft picks to sweeten trade packages -- including five first-round picks in the next two drafts -- but Presti was able to land an accomplished center to complement his promising young trio of Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Jeff Green without surrendering any major draft considerations.

With a payroll at nearly $67 million this season and scheduled to reach almost $77 million next season, New Orleans felt it had to part with Chandler before Thursday's 3 p.m. trading deadline regardless, even though dealing away the 26-year-old almost certainly takes the Hornets out of serious playoff contention in the West.

The Hornets were widely projected as a dark-horse title contender entering the season but hit the All-Star break as the No. 6 team in the West at 30-20 after a variety of injuries and struggles to cope with raised expectations. Chandler has been bothered all season by foot troubles and is averaging just 8.8 points and 8.3 rebounds, compared to 11.8 points and 11.7 rebounds last season.

With the Hornets unable to generate trade interest in Peja Stojakovic and unwilling to part with either Chris Paul or David West, New Orleans elected to take this deal to erase Chandler's $12.3 million salary next season from its payroll. Chandler has the right to become a free agent after the 2009-10 season in the unlikely event that he chooses to walk away from his $13.2 million salary in 2010-11.

At the Hornets' Tuesday morning shootaround in Oklahoma City, West told the New Orleans Times Picayune that he was hoping his team would resist the trade interest in Chandler.

"I don't know if that's somebody we can afford to lose,'' West told the newspaper. "So I'm not sold on that idea. You just don't find a 7-foot-1 athlete like that and he's the only 7-footer we have. Especially if we're planning on making a run into the playoffs, we're going to need size to compete with Portland, San Antonio and the Lakers. I'm not sure that would help us.''

Non-impact trade... Thunder will not make playoffs. Hornets will/may lose first round in playoffs depending on who they play when seeded.

I don't see Hornets breaking top 4 seed. Not having home court will hurt them and Joe Smith & Wilcox are not dominant as Chandler.
 
I'm glad that we got Tyson.

He has grown up a lot since he was first drafted and is still pretty young.

OKC won't be competing for awhile but we gotta start building so at least compete.
 
The stupidest trade in the history of stupid trades...and Wednesday was Tyson Chandler jersey night at the Arena
 
Now that the trade is recinded... now what? Chandler is injured still.

Will he still be the defensive presence once healthy in the playoffs.
 
Chandler back in the Big Easy and expected to play Friday

Deke Bellavia Reporting

In a bizarre turn of events Center Tyson Chandler is now a New Orleans Hornet again.* Less than 36 hours ago Chandler was traded to Oklahoma City in exchange for Chris Wilcox, Joe Smith and the rights to Devon Hardin.

"We welcome Tyson back with open arms," Hornets general manager Jeff Bower said in a statement.* Chandler failed a physical administered by Oklahoma City Physicians.* “We went into this trade to garner more frontcourt depth to add to our team as we continue our push towards the playoffs. We expect Tyson and the rest of our big guys to step up to the challenge,” said Bower.

Many fans questioned Bower and the Hornets front office for trading away the team’s best big man, even though Chandler’s numbers are not as good as last season.* Chandler is averaging 8.8 points and 8.3 rebounds this season and has played in only 32 games.**** He missed 12 games with an ankle injury before the trade on Tuesday.

During the 2007-2008 season Chandler averaged 11.8 points and 11.8 rebounds per game. Chandler is expected to play Friday Night as they travel to Los Angeles to face the Lakers on National TV.

The Hornets are now 32-20 on the season following their 117-85 blowout win over the Orlando Magic Wednesday.*

Programming note:* Tune in to Sports Talk with Bobby Hebert and Deke Bellavia Thursday at 4pm for much more and sound off on the return of Tyson Chandler.



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Okc lost
 
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actually, i think OKC won.

they are a miserable team that was about to acquire a player who has ZERO in his own ability to create O.

if you watch when teams like the fakers play the hornets, their D gameplan on tyson chandler is to ignore him and play chris paul for the lob. that's it. that's all. a player (even 1 who doesn't score) must at least be enough of a threat on O for the opposing D to respect him (ex. bruce bowen).

no knock on tyson chandler. overall he does contribute in other ways. but that 1 dimensional shit got old last season. what did he add over the summer?

fg% down, ft% down, pfs up even though he plays FEWER minutes. gotta go.
 
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The guy has missed 18 of 50 games of course his numbers will be down..him being back just made david west's job lot easier....and if cp3 payed like he played last night we will be dangerous in the playoffs again..tyson was the piece that made the puzzle complete we wouldn't have gotten far with wilcox and smith..
 
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The guy has missed 18 of 50 games of course his numbers will be down.

missed games would explain a drop in productivity in TOTALS. i'm referring specifically to per game productivity.

injury has nothing to do with his minutes IN GAMES HE HAS PLAYED this season. nor does it have anything to do with his shooting percentages.

tyson was the piece that made the puzzle complete we wouldn't have gotten far with wilcox and smith..

i don't have a crystal ball, so i can't play the "if" game. but i can disagree that tyson chandler was/is the missing piece. chris paul MAKES tyson chandler on the O side of the ball. if OKC can find players who have some INDEPENDENT O to their game, they should make the move.
 
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so without chandler (hypothetically speaking) u believe the hornets will finish in better position than with chandler?

would smith and wilcox have done better
 
Without a doubt Chandler is a liability on the offensive side of the ball. But that is not where his value lies. It is on the defensive side where he will make a serious impact (if he is healthy....and I don't think he really is)

Sure they could find a player with better offensive skills. Hell, let's play a little game and put DIRK in the center spot. He would be IMMENSLY better on offense than Chandler, but would the team be better off?? Highly unlikely. They'd probably become a joke in the paint like the Mavs are now.

It is not a center's job to be a highly skilled offensive player. In fact is is the POINT guards job to MAKE the center a more skilled offensive player by getting him the ball in places where he can do the most damage. No, the CENTER's job is to man the MIDDLE of the defense. Something that Chandler does better than 75% of the stiffs that are running around CALLING themselves centers. Which is why the Hornet would've missed him had the trade not been rescinded.

Having said that, I don't really believe Chandler is healthy. No way a team with almost nothing to lose like OKC would reject him if there really wasn't something wrong with him
 
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so without chandler (hypothetically speaking) u believe the hornets will finish in better position than with chandler?

of course not. tyson chandler is NOT one of the "addition by subraction" players. most teams would suffer some ill effects after losing a 3 year starter.

would smith and wilcox have done better

as i stated before, i don't often engage in these "what if" scenarios, but since i have a few minutes, i'll entertain this one.

i think YES, the charlotte hornets would perform better ON THE WHOLE with chris wilcox. would chris wilcox post better numbers in rebounding and shot blocking than tyson chandler? probably not. but would he make his man work more at the other end? most likely. would he make the opponent D play more honest, thus opening up the floor for other players? i would be inclined to think so.
 
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Without a doubt Chandler is a liability on the offensive side of the ball. But that is not where his value lies. It is on the defensive side where he will make a serious impact (if he is healthy....and I don't think he really is)

1st, let me say that it is refreshing to be able to have a decent talk about basketball here on the SPORTS board.

the problem with having these 1 dimensional (or more accurately, non-offensive) players is that if you are going to attempt to be competitive with that sort of line-up (hiding the 5th player), then all 4 of your other guys have to be able to get their shots to pick up the slack. otherwise, you're looking at some sluggish scoring nights due to doubles or always facing help on penetration.

the hornets don't have that situation. they've had problems at the 2 (with mo pete and rasual butler filling in), and had that REALLY UGLY rough patch without tyson chandler in the lineup.

if you look at the last team to be successful "hiding" the 5th man on O, it was the detroit pistons and ben wallace. they could afford to try that strategy because all 4 of their other spots could get their own shot:

chauncey billups
richard hamilton
tayshaun prince
rasheed wallace

prior to that, you'd have to go to the chicago bulls with dennis rodman:

ron harper
michael jordan
scottie pippen
luc longley

they could find a player with better offensive skills. Hell, let's play a little game and put DIRK in the center spot. He would be IMMENSLY better on offense than Chandler, but would the team be better off?? Highly unlikely. They'd probably become a joke in the paint like the Mavs are now.

no need to drag this thread down in the gutter. we don't need to descend into euro-slinging.

It is not a center's job to be a highly skilled offensive player. In fact is is the POINT guards job to MAKE the center a more skilled offensive player by getting him the ball in places where he can do the most damage. No, the CENTER's job is to man the MIDDLE of the defense. Something that Chandler does better than 75% of the stiffs that are running around CALLING themselves centers. Which is why the Hornet would've missed him had the trade not been rescinded.

i'll respond in reverse order, starting with your comment that i bolded. i agree with that 100%. there is (and has been) a tremendous dearth of talent at the 5 for more than a decade.

now going back to the center's job or what is not the center's job (as it pertains to tyson chandler). the hornets don't need a highly skilled offensive player. they surely don't need a scoring center. but what they (and almost every other team in the NBA) DO need is a player who is at least enough of a threat to keep the opposing D honest. does he have a reliable jump hook from 5 or 6 feet? can he hit the 10 to 12 footer faced up? is he a good passer out of the pivot?

without those (and the more you have, the better), the opposing D is free to double up on your perimeter and/or provide constant help on penetrators.

note the hornets have taken a step back from last year in not only offensive productivity, but also on the defensive side too.

bad news for hornets fans. :(
 
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I think you are correct. You'll definitely need at least one other player to pick up Chandler's offensive slack. Thankfully, the other parts of his game are pretty good and he will be able to pick up defensive slack for one of those players as well (Peja), so it should be able to balance out. Unfortunately, haven't seen enough of Chandler to know if he's at least halfway decent at those attributes you mentioned. He probably has a decent 10 foot shot, though I know he has very little post up moves. Their lack of consistentcy at the 2 is the primary reason for their offensive struggles. Usually, when Butler is hitting, they win. Also, when He and Peja are both hitting, it opens up things for Chandler to do what he does best....putbacks and alleyoops.


Wilcox would've given them an added dimension at center, but he gets KILLED when he goes against the big guys, so his offense might get cancelled out. If Wilcox joined the team, I suspect they would've had to change their defensive style of play to accomdate him. They have NO other player in that lineup that is a decent defender besides Chandler. West is only average in the paint
 
and the presence of chandler in the paint opens up d west...the hornets will be happy the trade was rescinded come playoff time
 
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