OFFICIAL: Microsoft and Bungie No-Longer EXCLUSIVE
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Looks like Bungie will be making a new IP. It probably won't be an X-Box exclusive. But hell the Microsoft minority share holding of Bungie will allow MS to make money off of PS3, Wii, DS, PSP PC and what ever other platforms Bungie releases for.
Smart move by Microsoft if you ask me.
I really dont think this matters much. Bungie's claim to fame is the Halo series. Halo is really what people care about from Bungie. That is the main reason why Microsoft purchased them in the first place.
Bungie may write apps for other platforms, but the Halo franchise will never be on any platform that isnt linked to Microsoft. For example, you will never see Halo 4 (yes, I do believe there will be a Halo 4) on a PS3 or Wii system.
Bungie may write apps for other platforms, but the Halo franchise will never be on any platform that isnt linked to Microsoft. For example, you will never see Halo 4 (yes, I do believe there will be a Halo 4) on a PS3 or Wii system.
And Sony can't sell systems. Since you limited 12 year old brain can't comprehend this move, let me explain it you in terms maybe you can understand.
MS in NOT letting Bungie go. They are giving them freedom to whatever they want to do, while profiting off of them at the same time. Plus if Bungie does a game for any other studio, MS gets paid off of that.
It's called expanding your revenue streams.
Now ask your beloved Sony when are they going to have some games worth playing or that could match Halo on any level? Answer is they won't.
How's that Blu-ray working out for you on your 19" TV?
But since you're a Sony fantard, here's to waiting for MGS 4 Hurray!
Correct that can't happen anyway because MS own the IP. But their relationship looks like its going to be pretty much the same they just won't be owned by MS 100%. It looks MS is still going to publish most of their games and they can choose to make them exclusive if they want.
Halo DS Was An "Unsolicited Pitch"
Finally, we can put "Halo DS" to bed. There's been rumours, "proof" and heresay flying around the place for years now, culminating in this week's "footage" of the game. Thankfully, during his little chat with Crecente earlier today, Bungie's Community and Franchise Director Brian Jarrard clears up the whole mess once and for all:
Bungie Owns Bungie: The Q&A
Halo DS plot thickened by video footage
Just as the plot is thickening, you may find the reported cancellation of Halo DS particularly sickening. IGN Nintendo editor-in-chief, Matt Cassamassina, has updated his personal blog with footage of what appears to be the near-mythical portable version of Bungie's ludicrously popular sci-fi shooter. Halo DS is seen sporting the franchise's familiar cyborg, weapons, theme music and a cute logo that should prevent anyone from pronouncing it "Halods" (which sounds like a terribly debilitating gum disease).
If you still believe this to be an elaborate, attention-grabbing fake, feel free to watch an additional video on Cassamassina's blog and post a reply to a comment by IGN's Mark Bozon, who eloquently challenges you to "Call BS on that, bitches."
Finally, we can put "Halo DS" to bed. There's been rumours, "proof" and heresay flying around the place for years now, culminating in this week's "footage" of the game. Thankfully, during his little chat with Crecente earlier today, Bungie's Community and Franchise Director Brian Jarrard clears up the whole mess once and for all:
This rumor has been circulating for a while and as you know we even saw some real life screens and assets this week. Ultimately it's up to Microsoft to decide if and when they take Halo to a different platform. That particular demo was in fact created and I believe it was an unsolicited pitch a long time ago but nothing ever came of it.
Done. Finished. It may have been "real" in the sense you could touch it. But not real in the sense it had nothing to do with Bungie, and was little more than elaborate, digital fan mail.Bungie Owns Bungie: The Q&A
Halo DS plot thickened by video footage
Just as the plot is thickening, you may find the reported cancellation of Halo DS particularly sickening. IGN Nintendo editor-in-chief, Matt Cassamassina, has updated his personal blog with footage of what appears to be the near-mythical portable version of Bungie's ludicrously popular sci-fi shooter. Halo DS is seen sporting the franchise's familiar cyborg, weapons, theme music and a cute logo that should prevent anyone from pronouncing it "Halods" (which sounds like a terribly debilitating gum disease).
If you still believe this to be an elaborate, attention-grabbing fake, feel free to watch an additional video on Cassamassina's blog and post a reply to a comment by IGN's Mark Bozon, who eloquently challenges you to "Call BS on that, bitches."
Well maybe we can get the MSG4 on the 360. I think this exclusivity shit should change all togehter.
And Sony can't sell systems. Since you limited 12 year old brain can't comprehend this move, let me explain it you in terms maybe you can understand.
MS in NOT letting Bungie go. They are giving them freedom to whatever they want to do, while profiting off of them at the same time. Plus if Bungie does a game for any other studio, MS gets paid off of that.
It's called expanding your revenue streams.
Now ask your beloved Sony when are they going to have some games worth playing or that could match Halo on any level? Answer is they won't.
How's that Blu-ray working out for you on your 19" TV?
But since you're a Sony fantard, here's to waiting for MGS 4 Hurray!
So much passion, so wrong. Bungie is becoming an independent company. Microsoft will maintain a minority stake in Bungie. Hell anyone that invest has a minority stake in a company. The details have not been published. Bungie pushed this not microsoft. This was not what microsoft wanted. As stated by Bungie the success of Halo allowed them to keep hedging away from microsoft. ie they purchased there way out. Best interest was if you want another Halo game set us free.
It was smart on Bungie to leave microsoft because the investors are still pushing for microsoft to leave the entertainment sector. They have yet to make a profit. Microsoft was trading at about $66 a share when the system was released, it is now trading at $29.84 a share. Microsoft XBox cost the company 1.1 Billion dollars which directly affected the money that goes into the investors pockets. Eventually the investors are going to win.
On top of that most big game developers state that the DVD drive will be to small to hold games being designed past 2008. Get used to switching out disc on your XBox 360 soon. So I guess that Blu-Ray will work out for the for those PS3 owners.
Of course PS3 owners have a lot to worry about too. Sony investors are sick of the PS3 losses on Sony. Hope you don't want to play PS2 game on the new 40gig model.
Should have brought a Wii. Like the XBox most of the good games are first party titles except that Nintendos are truely in house. Wii making money since day one.
Shut the fuck up stock boy. I read the article. Like I said MS still gets a piece of the action, whatever they do so I am correct in what I said. Damn shame when morons try to sound smart. Did you get this info from the best buy cashier since you know they have all the industry information?
This conversation has nothing to do with Nintendo, yet you manage to drop them in every chance you get. Do you get a side check from them on your min. wage BB check? Shut the fuck up.
There you go. That's it right there.
Such hurt feelings, are you that touched by Bill and the gang? What part of the action are the getting?
Is the agreement only for the Halo franchise? You don't know. Whatever it is it's less then the all they have now. As far as the side check, I own stock in Nintendo. I had stock in microsoft until they made the xbox. Saved myself a loss of almost $40 a share. See there is a difference between a fanboy and ownership in a company chump.
As far as best buy goes I own stock in them too.
Go back into your fanboy corner little boy grown men with real money on the line are talking.
ouch. son just got knocked down a peg. Halo Bubble Shield couldn't hold for that blow. ouch.
INTERVIEW: Bungie Talks Microsoft Split
Brian Jarrard, franchise and community director for Bungie explains how a phenomenally successful wholly-owned studio can up and walk away from its parent. Next-Gen's interview within...
Today, Microsoft confirmed rumors that Halo developer Bungie would be amicably breaking off from its software giant parent. Jarrard talks about the snowballing rumors, the future of Bungie, development for other platforms and more…
Next-Gen: What was it like sitting back and watching all of these rumors unfold on the Internet. There are some people that called it “ludicrous," even calling people that simply entertained the idea “suckers.” Meanwhile, what was Bungie doing while this was all going on?
Jarrard: We’ve kind of been watching from the sidelines. It’s been kind of entertaining at times. I’ve read some pretty awesome forum posts with people that were sure that this was nothing but an Internet hoax. It's funny now to watch them eat their words.
Mostly, in the past couple days, we’ve been frantically working with our friends at Microsoft to get all of our ducks in a row and get all these last few deal points wrapped up and get to a point where both sides were comfortable announcing this to the world. There’s just been a lot of last minute meetings and discussions taking place just to get everything ironed out.
We’ve been frantically trying to do that in the midst of the Halo 3 launch and trying to get our whole studio back in operation again.
What exactly is the next step after you’ve made this announcement?
Realistically, in the immediate future, I don’t expect really much to change at all to be honest. We have people right now that are already at work—it’s just another day in the office. Our immediate projects that we’re committed to like the Halo 3 content, working with Peter Jackson on the new Halo project, these are things that were already well-underway before the announcement. We’re going to continue to work on these projects with Microsoft acting as our publisher.
In a lot of ways, day-in, day-out, life isn’t going to change in the short term. But the potential for what we’re doing months and years from now is dramatically increased. Who’s to say where that will lead? Right now, we’ve got some projects that we’re working hard to get out the door.
How exactly does this whole “split” work out? How does a studio that was acquired in 2000, a wholly-owned studio, just get up and take off with its name and studio intact?
Well, it was an interesting set of discussions, as you can imagine. It’s been going on for quite a while. Ultimately, it was something that we had to do as a group to creatively continue to expand and continue what we want to do. As [Bungie’s Jason Jones] so aptly put it, we’re a shark that just has to keep moving to stay alive, otherwise we felt that we’d start to stagnate and potentially lose interest, and maybe even lose some of our teams.
Fortunately for us, Microsoft realized that, and they’ve been very accommodating to help us work through this and come to an arrangement that ultimately is going to reinvigorate and empower Bungie to continue to do great games and make great games for Microsoft’s platforms, as well as getting more Halo games to come from our studio as well.
At the same time, it gives us the freedom down the road to explore other opportunities and challenge ourselves and keep us engaged in what we do. It was about putting together a deal where both groups could get what they’re after.
Did this idea of breaking away come during the development of Halo 3, or possibly before?
Without getting into too many specifics, as we’re not at liberty to discuss the contractual terms, this is something that obviously some people here have been thinking about for a long time. I would say probably coming off of Halo 2 going into Halo 3 was the first time that kind of became something that was realistically attainable. Like I said, Microsoft was very accommodating and willing to work with us on this.
It seems like the word “accommodating” is kind of an understatement. You guys just made them $300 million.
[Laughs] Yeah, I mean to be fair to them too, they’ve been a great publisher and a great partner, and they’ll continue to be. We’re extremely happy with the Halo franchise as a whole, but some of the credit definitely has to go to them as well for just being a great publisher and supporting the game and marketing it. It has been a partnership, and it will continue to be a partnership.
This also means that Bungie can go multiplatform. We know that Bungie will be concentrating on the Xbox 360, but has Bungie been able to tinker around with other platforms? What do you think of PS3, Wii and the handhelds?
To be honest, we haven’t really put any serious thought into that at all right now. Typically speaking, that opportunity could exist for us down the road and possibly those prospects are exciting for some of our engineers, but on the other hand, we’ve only made one game for the 360 and that game happened to turn out very, very well. The platform’s been really good to us, Microsoft has been really good to us. So for now we’re just taking it all in stride. We’ve got our hands full with some 360 commitments and that’s going to keep us occupied for quite a while.
Beyond that, anything’s possible, but it’s too early to say. We don’t have any dev kits in the building for other platforms. There’s nothing like that going on right now.
This may be premature, but when are we going to find out about Bungie’s next project?
You’ll find out as soon as we’re ready to show and talk about something. Bungie is notoriously tight-lipped and “when it’s ready it’s ready” is kind of our mentality. I think the first thing that you’ll hear about, hopefully soon, is our collaboration with Peter Jackson and this new Halo experience, because that’s a real project that’s had real progress. It’s pretty exciting.
Beyond that, we have a group of people who are in the really fun exploration and incubation phase and just testing out concepts and ideas. Eventually those guys will land on what we think will be our next big thing.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7416&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=1
Brian Jarrard, franchise and community director for Bungie explains how a phenomenally successful wholly-owned studio can up and walk away from its parent. Next-Gen's interview within...
Today, Microsoft confirmed rumors that Halo developer Bungie would be amicably breaking off from its software giant parent. Jarrard talks about the snowballing rumors, the future of Bungie, development for other platforms and more…
Next-Gen: What was it like sitting back and watching all of these rumors unfold on the Internet. There are some people that called it “ludicrous," even calling people that simply entertained the idea “suckers.” Meanwhile, what was Bungie doing while this was all going on?
Jarrard: We’ve kind of been watching from the sidelines. It’s been kind of entertaining at times. I’ve read some pretty awesome forum posts with people that were sure that this was nothing but an Internet hoax. It's funny now to watch them eat their words.
Mostly, in the past couple days, we’ve been frantically working with our friends at Microsoft to get all of our ducks in a row and get all these last few deal points wrapped up and get to a point where both sides were comfortable announcing this to the world. There’s just been a lot of last minute meetings and discussions taking place just to get everything ironed out.
We’ve been frantically trying to do that in the midst of the Halo 3 launch and trying to get our whole studio back in operation again.
What exactly is the next step after you’ve made this announcement?
Realistically, in the immediate future, I don’t expect really much to change at all to be honest. We have people right now that are already at work—it’s just another day in the office. Our immediate projects that we’re committed to like the Halo 3 content, working with Peter Jackson on the new Halo project, these are things that were already well-underway before the announcement. We’re going to continue to work on these projects with Microsoft acting as our publisher.
In a lot of ways, day-in, day-out, life isn’t going to change in the short term. But the potential for what we’re doing months and years from now is dramatically increased. Who’s to say where that will lead? Right now, we’ve got some projects that we’re working hard to get out the door.
How exactly does this whole “split” work out? How does a studio that was acquired in 2000, a wholly-owned studio, just get up and take off with its name and studio intact?
Well, it was an interesting set of discussions, as you can imagine. It’s been going on for quite a while. Ultimately, it was something that we had to do as a group to creatively continue to expand and continue what we want to do. As [Bungie’s Jason Jones] so aptly put it, we’re a shark that just has to keep moving to stay alive, otherwise we felt that we’d start to stagnate and potentially lose interest, and maybe even lose some of our teams.
Fortunately for us, Microsoft realized that, and they’ve been very accommodating to help us work through this and come to an arrangement that ultimately is going to reinvigorate and empower Bungie to continue to do great games and make great games for Microsoft’s platforms, as well as getting more Halo games to come from our studio as well.
At the same time, it gives us the freedom down the road to explore other opportunities and challenge ourselves and keep us engaged in what we do. It was about putting together a deal where both groups could get what they’re after.
Did this idea of breaking away come during the development of Halo 3, or possibly before?
Without getting into too many specifics, as we’re not at liberty to discuss the contractual terms, this is something that obviously some people here have been thinking about for a long time. I would say probably coming off of Halo 2 going into Halo 3 was the first time that kind of became something that was realistically attainable. Like I said, Microsoft was very accommodating and willing to work with us on this.
It seems like the word “accommodating” is kind of an understatement. You guys just made them $300 million.
[Laughs] Yeah, I mean to be fair to them too, they’ve been a great publisher and a great partner, and they’ll continue to be. We’re extremely happy with the Halo franchise as a whole, but some of the credit definitely has to go to them as well for just being a great publisher and supporting the game and marketing it. It has been a partnership, and it will continue to be a partnership.
This also means that Bungie can go multiplatform. We know that Bungie will be concentrating on the Xbox 360, but has Bungie been able to tinker around with other platforms? What do you think of PS3, Wii and the handhelds?
To be honest, we haven’t really put any serious thought into that at all right now. Typically speaking, that opportunity could exist for us down the road and possibly those prospects are exciting for some of our engineers, but on the other hand, we’ve only made one game for the 360 and that game happened to turn out very, very well. The platform’s been really good to us, Microsoft has been really good to us. So for now we’re just taking it all in stride. We’ve got our hands full with some 360 commitments and that’s going to keep us occupied for quite a while.
Beyond that, anything’s possible, but it’s too early to say. We don’t have any dev kits in the building for other platforms. There’s nothing like that going on right now.
This may be premature, but when are we going to find out about Bungie’s next project?
You’ll find out as soon as we’re ready to show and talk about something. Bungie is notoriously tight-lipped and “when it’s ready it’s ready” is kind of our mentality. I think the first thing that you’ll hear about, hopefully soon, is our collaboration with Peter Jackson and this new Halo experience, because that’s a real project that’s had real progress. It’s pretty exciting.
Beyond that, we have a group of people who are in the really fun exploration and incubation phase and just testing out concepts and ideas. Eventually those guys will land on what we think will be our next big thing.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7416&Itemid=2&limit=1&limitstart=1
Freaky1 wouldnt even get upset about his 360 breaking down on him , he would just shrug it off and be happy to go out and buy a new one.
True that, hope he brought that PRP from Best Buy. More money, more money!!