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I voted for dude and all how does he even begin to explain this bold move. :smh:"Whatever happened to We The People" Please expound on this issue? I think it's wrong on so many levels.


Does anyone notice how U.S. president Barack Obama always does his shady deeds in the dead of night while he thinks we’re sleeping?

If you have of that Kool Aid left over, you might want to take a drink to keep from gagging as you read on.

Last Thursday, Dec. 17, 2009, Obama signed an executive order giving complete authority to British police force Interpol to crack heads arrest U.S. citizens on U.S. soil without any intervention from our police or even the FBI!

Additionally, if you are arrested by Interpol, you have no recourse, no rights to an attorney and no right to even see the charges against you — thanks to Obama.

By signing the order, Obama removed any safeguards put in place by former president Ronald Reagan to insure that Interpol did not violate our rights or the Constitution!

Andy McCarthy at National Review asks these crucial, sobering questions of the secretive Obama order:

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Why would Obama sign an order effectively turning the U.S. into a police state. It could be that Obama doesn’t think the FBI or our local police will roll over on their fellow Americans when the New World Order becomes reality — but an international police force will.

The Examiner’s Anthony G. Martin thinks he knows the chilling answer:

At least one answer to these questions is very clear. A coup is underway in the United States of America, the goal of which is to establish complete, unquestioned authority over the citizens–a ‘fundamental change’ to the United States where citizens have no legal recourse against an authoritarian central government.

:eek:
 
Alright, this is a legit complaint, provided the source is legit. Not like the weekly handouts niggas been bummin for all year long.

Where's the source of this article?
 
JD Walker said:
Alright, this is a legit complaint, provided the source is legit. Not like the weekly handouts niggas been bummin for all year long.

Where's the source of this article?
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That's what I'm waiting on before I comment. He's definitely going to need better than the National Review.
 
Don't even trip. This muthafucka sold out the American people! Link to article here: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=120363




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Does anyone notice how U.S. president Barack Obama always does his shady deeds in the dead of night while he thinks we’re sleeping?
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And you think he was the 1st President to do this? The reason that you know this is happening is because of the media and people are out to find something to say rather then making this country better.

...Other counties are laughing at us because WE can not get behind OUR President on any decision made. All of these threads can eat shit and die. :itsawrap:
 
Interpol doesn't just consist of foriegn law enforcement. All the alphabet agencies have cops assign to it as well. This is interesting because if this is true then it means that foreign officers looking for a fugetive living in the U.S they can pretty much go after them with their U.S counter parts.

Funny shit is those alphabet boys been doing that shit for yrs in other countries interpol is apart of....

Its like police officers here can't do a warrantless search of an individual "unless" they were just arrested or detained. So they give a quick pat down for weapons.

on the flip side Parole officers "can" execute warrantless searches of parolees anytime anywhere, so police officers or detectives will tag along with Parole officers to get around the warrantless search. Most of the time Detectives and Parole officers are not looking for recent parolees but ninjas who are already wanted or apart of an investigation.


sidenote: Again if this is true Interpol will be nothing if not already the policing body of the United Nations...... NWO is here lol
 
FAMU96 said:
And you think he was the 1st President to do this? The reason that you know this is happening is because of the media and people are out to find something to say rather then making this country better.
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huh:confused:
so if other presidents did fucked up shit its ok

...Other counties are laughing at us because WE can not get behind OUR President on any decision made. All of these threads can eat shit and die. :itsawrap:
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um what are u talkin about
obamities:smh::smh:



good shit darth




anybody from the church of obama care to explain
 
I was going to post this, but people love believing the GUBMINT around here.

If you combine this with the recent Supreme Court decision upholding the President's power to make you an un-person...

and you have a scenario where the President can legally make you disappear without any court challenge, legal remedy, or Constitutional protection.

Basically, they are formally making us all into the private property of the President.

But, he's black so I guess it's okay.

Dred Scott Redux: Obama and the Supremes Stand Up for Slavery
 
mike123 said:
huh:confused:
so if other presidents did fucked up shit its ok




um what are u talkin about
obamities:smh::smh:



good shit darth




anybody from the church of obama care to explain
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I don't think this effects American citizens if you are worried about MI-5 snatching you up from your home in the middle of the night.
 
JD Walker said:
I don't think this effects American citizens if you are worried about MI-5 snatching you up from your home in the middle of the night.
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i dont know about that but check this


fro the looks of things they already had some immunity but the pres decided to give em full immunity and combined wit

Cruise said:
I was going to post this, but people love believing the GUBMINT around here.

If you combine this with the recent Supreme Court decision upholding the President's power to make you an un-person...

and you have a scenario where the President can legally make you disappear without any court challenge, legal remedy, or Constitutional protection.

Basically, they are formally making us all into the private property of the President.

But, he's black so I guess it's okay.

Dred Scott Redux: Obama and the Supremes Stand Up for Slavery
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could u imagine if lets say unemployment numbers officially reach 20% ( even though its always 10-15% higher ). what is the government gonna do wit all those people with nothin to do?
even with another war they'll still be plenty of people broke with nothin to do. Couldnt fit em in our jails, they're over packed already and they cant build em fast enough. so why not put em other peoples jails
 
mike123 said:
i dont know about that but check this


fro the looks of things they already had some immunity but the pres decided to give em full immunity and combined wit





could u imagine if lets say unemployment numbers officially reach 20% ( even though its always 10-15% higher ). what is the government gonna do wit all those people with nothin to do?
even with another war they'll still be plenty of people broke with nothin to do. Couldnt fit em in our jails, they're over packed already and they cant build em fast enough. so why not put em other peoples jails
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Don't throw out your shoulder reaching so far, bruh.
 
sharkdog01 said:
paging heist or ewwill to fill us in if this is bogus or not. :confused:
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World Net Daily is pretty dubious source in the case because of their inherent political bias.. and sharkdog01 pointed out something as well that also seems highly improbable. I need to read more on it though..
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Don't throw out your shoulder reaching so far, bruh.
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:lol:
i know its a stretch
but not much considerin detroit is supposed to be at damn near 50% unemployment. if they get worse and that trend spread it could become a problem. they may do something along the lines of what i suggested to keep areas were unemployment is 65% or worse from turnin into mad max territories
 
Just What Did President Obama's Executive Order regarding INTERPOL Do?


Some viewers/readers have asked me about an executive order President Obama signed earlier this month regarding INTERPOL, an issue that has exploded on the conservative blogosphere with all sorts of nefarious insinuations and accusations.

Here are some background and the facts:

On June 16, 1983, President Reagan signed Executive Order 12425, which designated the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

The International Organizations Immunities Act, signed into law in 1945, established a special group of foreign or international organizations whose members could work in the U.S. and enjoy certain exemptions from US taxes and search and seizure laws.

Experts say there are about 75 organizations in the US covered by the International Organizations Immunities Act -- including the United Nations, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the International Monetary Fund, the International Committee of the Red Cross, even the International Pacific Halibut Commission and Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission.

(These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under "diplomatic immunity," they are considerably less. "Diplomatic immunity" comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a "diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State." That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.)

Basically, recognizing a group under the International Organizations Immunities Act means officials from those organizations are exempt from some taxes and customs fees, and that their records cannot be seized.

This, I'm told, is so these organizations can work throughout the world without different countries spying on each other by accessing the records of these groups.

Each president has designated some organizations covered by the International Organizations Immunities Act.

President Nixon did it for the United International Bureaux for the Protection of Intellectual Property.

President Reagan bestowed these privileges to the African Development Bank, the International Boundary and Water Commission, United States and Mexico, and the World Tourism Organization, among others.

President Bush through Executive Orders covered the European Central Bank, the African Union and the Global Fund to Fight AIDS Tuberculosis and Malaria.

INTERPOL is course a different type of organization -- it's an investigative law enforcement body. In fact, it's the world’s largest international police organization.

Created in 1923, INTERPOL has 188 member countries including the US. Its purpose is to facilitate cross-border police co-operation and to work with other legitimate law enforcement organizations worldwide to prevent and combat international crime, with a focus on: drugs and criminal organizations; financial and high-tech crime; fugitives; public safety and terrorism; trafficking in human beings; and corruption.

The US historically has participated whole-heartedly in INTERPOL; the current Secretary General of INTERPOL is Ronald Noble, a former Undersecretary of Enforcement of the Department of the Treasury during the Clinton administration.

"The FBI and other law enforcement agencies have closely coordinated with INTERPOL for many, many years," a former counterterrorism official who served during the Bush administration says approvingly.

In Lyon, France, 2003, then-Attorney General John Ashcroft spoke to INTERPOL and said to Noble, "INTERPOL was already a top-flight law enforcement organization, but your dynamic leadership has brought new dimensions to this global crime-fighting resource."

Reagan's 1983 executive order, however, did not provide blanket exemptions for INTERPOL officials, who at the time did not have a permanent office in the US. The provisions of the International Organizations Immunities Act that INTERPOL officials were not exempt from included:

• Section 2(c), which provided officials immunity from their property and assets being searched and confiscated; including their archives;
• the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes;
• Section 4, dealing with federal taxes;
• Section 5, dealing with Social Security; and
• Section 6, dealing with property taxes.

I'm told INTERPOL didn't have a permanent office in the US until 2004, which is why it wasn’t until this month afforded the same full privileges given, say, the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission by President Kennedy in 1962.

In September 1995, President Clinton updated Reagan's executive order with Executive Order No. 12971, giving INTERPOL officials exemption from some of the customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes’.

Then in his December 17, 2009, executive order President Obama exempted INTERPOL from the rest of the exceptions Reagan listed -- Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6.

So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?

He can't believe it's taken this long.

"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.

"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.

- jpt
 
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mike123 said:
that was the worst explanation so far
seems like Tapper likes to type cause the actually info in that article could of fit in one paragraph

abc ( disney ) has about the same credibility as those sites
can we get a better source
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he probably didnt even write it. looks like something a staffer or researcher did. i agree that it was a bit longwinded.

i think basically what it comes down to is that there are a lot of international organizations that have these same sort of immunities. interpol didn't get it because they didn't have a physical presence in the US until very recently.

here is a shorter writeup in the NYTIMES. i think part of the issue is that there is a misconception just how Interpol operates. they dont actually arrest people - they are a clearinghouse for information, all arrests etc are done by the investigative/police organizations of the home country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html
 
hsm2448 said:
i think basically what it comes down to is that there are a lot of international organizations that have these same sort of immunities. interpol didn't get it because they didn't have a physical presence in the US until very recently.
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:yes:
 
hsm2448 said:
he probably didnt even write it. looks like something a staffer or researcher did. i agree that it was a bit longwinded.

i think basically what it comes down to is that there are a lot of international organizations that have these same sort of immunities. interpol didn't get it because they didn't have a physical presence in the US until very recently.

here is a shorter writeup in the NYTIMES. i think part of the issue is that there is a misconception just how Interpol operates. they dont actually arrest people - they are a clearinghouse for information, all arrests etc are done by the investigative/police organizations of the home country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/world/31interpol.html
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that link says u gotta be a member

i see what ur gettin at an their immunities wouldnt mean much if they didnt have a presence in this country but they do and along wit other developments they could be a problem for some in the future. But we'll have to see how things play out to know for sure
 
mike123 said:
huh:confused:
so if other presidents did fucked up shit its ok




um what are u talkin about
obamities:smh::smh:



good shit darth




anybody from the church of obama care to explain
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So why post this inflamed shit then? :dunno: This is a perfect example of someone finally opening a book (or website) and don't understand shit he is reading... I'm done.
 
this thread lacks alot of

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I watch world news.. literally. I can speak Spanish, Japanese and french.. Understand a bit of italian..

So I watch news from many major countries we're allied with. and NONE of them have reported on this....:hmm:

BBC, and BBCA.. nothing.. Bullest of shits.
 
Looks like Obama is giving international police some teeth. You won't be able to commit crime in another country and hide in the U.S....or hide in some other countries. If you ain't a criminal, trying to fuck up the world why gripe. Fact is if Interpol stays on top of shit many future wars may be averted because crimminal won't be able to step up their game.


Good move Barak Obama
 
maddcat said:
Looks like Obama is giving international police some teeth. You won't be able to commit crime in another country and hide in the U.S....or hide in some other countries. If you ain't a criminal, trying to fuck up the world why gripe. Fact is if Interpol stays on top of shit many future wars may be averted because crimminal won't be able to step up their game:yes:


Good move Barak Obama
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Agreed
 
mike123 said:
that link says u gotta be a member

i see what ur gettin at an their immunities wouldnt mean much if they didnt have a presence in this country but they do and along wit other developments they could be a problem for some in the future. But we'll have to see how things play out to know for sure
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its free to sign up for nytimes.


WASHINGTON — Conservative bloggers and opinion outlets in recent days have expressed mounting alarm about an executive order by President Obama that extended certain privileges and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization, better known as Interpol.

Bloggers have accused Mr. Obama of ceding American sovereignty, painting a portrait of an international police force operating on United States soil without legal restraints. They have also argued that the order is part of a plot to allow international courts to arrest and prosecute American officials for war crimes.

That theme is making its way from the blogosphere to more mainstream news outlets.

In a Web post for the conservative National Review last week, the commentator Andrew C. McCarthy declared that an “international police force” could now operate inside the United States “unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law.” He also suggested that the order created in the Justice Department “a repository for stashing government files” beyond the reach of Congress and the public.

And an editorial in The Washington Examiner this week declared that “this new directive from Obama may be the most destructive blow ever struck against American constitutional civil liberties.”

Obama administration and Interpol officials say the fears and accusations are based on ignorance about how Interpol works and about the context and impact of the order, which was issued on Dec. 17 without any statement.

“There is nothing newsworthy here,” said Christina Reynolds, a White House spokeswoman.

Contrary to its portrayal in some movies, Interpol has no police force that conducts investigations and makes arrests. Rather, it serves its 188 member countries by working as a clearinghouse for police departments in different nations to share law enforcement information — like files on wanted criminals and terrorists, stolen cars and passports, and notices that a law enforcement agency has issued an arrest warrant for a fugitive.

In the United States, a bureau at the Justice Department staffed by American officials transmits information between law enforcement agencies and Interpol. If a foreign country issues an arrest warrant for a person inside the United States, it is up to the United States government, based on its own laws, to decide whether to apprehend the suspect.

“We don’t send officers into the field to arrest people; we don’t have agents that go investigate crimes,” said Rachel Billington, an Interpol spokeswoman. “This is always done by the national police in the member country under their national laws.”

When public international organizations are operating on United States soil, a law allows the president to grant them certain rights and immunities, just as foreign embassies receive privileges. More than 70 organizations — including the International Committee of the Red Cross, the World Bank and the International Pacific Halibut Commission — receive those rights.

In 1983, President Ronald Reagan extended some rights — including immunity from lawsuits or prosecution for official acts — to Interpol, which was holding its annual meeting in the United States. But Mr. Reagan’s order did not include other standard privileges — like immunity from certain tax requirements and from having its property or records subject to search and seizure — because at the time, Interpol had no permanent office or employees on United States soil.

That changed in 2004, when Interpol opened a liaison office at the United Nations in New York City. The office consists of five staff members, Ms. Billington said, and they have access to law enforcement information submitted by other countries with restrictions on who may receive it.

“When the office opened in 2004, we said look, we’d like to have the Interpol staff working in the office in New York afforded the same immunities as other international organizations,” Ms. Billington said. “It’s only for the New York office.”

The State Department recommended approving the request, but the Bush White House did not complete the matter before its term ended, and so it rolled over.

The White House said it put out no statement with Mr. Obama’s order because it viewed the matter as uninteresting.

LaTonya Miller, the spokeswoman for the Justice Department’s Interpol bureau, said the order would have no effect on the bureau. It routinely receives and responds to Freedom of Information Act requests, she said, and will continue to do so.

“Nothing has changed,” she said. “We’ve been really concerned about all the misinformation that has been out there on the blogs.”
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