Obama on WTF With Marc Maron podcast

[Art Vandelay]

President Obama is going on the greatest podcast running today
Dylan Matthews
Vox.com
June 18, 2015

Well, here's one I never expected: President Obama is scheduled to appear on an episode of the podcast WTF With Marc Maron, to be posted this coming Monday. It will be recorded, as most episodes of the show are, in Maron's garage in Los Angeles. Maron announced the news at the beginning of today's episode of WTF, with guest Judd Apatow:

Brace yourselves. Are you sitting down? Okay. Take a breath. All right. If everything goes as planned, on Monday, I will post a WTF – an episode of this show that you’re listening to now – featuring myself in conversation, talking to at my home in my garage, me, talking to the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama. That is what's happening Monday. If everything goes well tomorrow — I don't know when you're listening to this but I’m talking to him tomorrow, if everything goes well. If everything goes as planned, by the end of the day tomorrow, Friday, I will have an conversation in the can with the President of the United States of America, Barack Obama.​

If you're never listened to WTF it may not be totally clear why this is such a bizarre development. The show has a very simple format: episodes typically feature one guest, whom Maron interviews at length, usually delving into his or her personal life and hopes and fears and the whatnot. The guests are almost exclusively comedians, comedy writers, actors, and musicians. Looking through the past 612 episodes (Obama will be 613th) I can't find anyone who isn't somehow in the entertainment industry. The past five episodes featured Apatow, comedian Godfrey, punk musician Mike Watt, actress Constance Zimmer, and comedian and Inside Amy Schumer writer Kurt Metzger.

The most iconic episodes of the show feature comedians and disputes within the comedy world:

• Louis C.K. appeared in a two-part episode that delved into the collapse of his and Maron's friendship. When they were both struggling comics in Boston, they were very close, but drifted apart as C.K.'s career took off and Maron's (until the success of WTF) didn't. It's rare to hear people — men especially — talk about breakups with friends, and C.K. and Maron do so in a remarkably candid fashion.
  
• Dane Cook was the most successful standup in the world in the mid- to late 2000s, but he was loathed by fellow comedians as a sellout and, more significantly, a joke thief, with Louis C.K. his most notable alleged victim. Cook and C.K. would deal with this dispute on an episode of Louie, but before that, Maron confronted Cook about the accusations and, surprisingly, Cook engaged.
  
• Carlos Mencia also has a bad reputation among comics as a joke thief, and when Maron initially interviewed Mencia about the issue, Mencia's answers were pretty guarded and uninformative. In the next episode, breaking with the show's usual format, he reached out to comedians critical of Mencia and got Mencia to respond, finally eliciting a more honest reaction, where Mencia speaks forthrightly about how hurt he is by other comedians' criticism.
  
• Robin Williams's episode is difficult to listen to now, as he addresses his history with addiction, depression, and suicidal ideation, four years before suicide would claim his life. But it's also exceptionally poignant and powerful, not least because it's a big break from the jokey public persona Williams had in most other interviews.
  
• Todd Glass, a veteran standup who's been working since the 1980s, used his second appearance on WTF to come out as gay, at age 47, and talked with Maron about living in the closet for decades and being gay in a field like comedy, which can be aggressively macho.

Those are probably the five newsiest episodes to date, but there are plenty more good ones: Amy Poehler, Maria Bamford, Fiona Apple, Patrice O'Neal, Zach Galifianakis. If you want more episodes to catch up on, Slate's David Haglund and Splitsider's Jenny Nelson have excellent roundups to get you started.

In his announcement of the Obama interview, Maron mused, "Is there a standard of classic WTF-style interview? I think so. I'm not exactly sure what they are or what they entail, but I know when I do them. And I hopefully will do one of those with the president of the United States of America, Barack Obama." If you listen to past episodes, you'll see what he means. Maron has a long track record of eliciting raw, honest, emotional interviews delving into people's lives and fears and hopes, often with guests you'd never expect to open up like that. If he manages to do the same with the president, it'd be quite a feat.

 

[Art Vandelay]

An Interview With Marc Maron About What It Was Like to Grill Obama (and How It Happened in the First Place)
By Laura Bennett
SLATE.com
JUNE 19 2015

Friday morning, Marc Maron—whose WTF podcast has featured some of the most raw and riveting interviews with comedians of all time—interviewed President Obama. This was not something Maron had ever expected to do.

And yet, months ago, Obama’s people reached out to Maron’s people, and then the plans kept inching quietly along, and suddenly, Friday morning, Obama’s chopper was circling Maron’s neighborhood and before long the president was sitting in his garage. In the hour-long interview, which will be posted online Monday, Maron and Obama discussed Charleston, gun violence, racism, and comedy, among other things. Slate spoke to Maron shortly after the president had left his house about how he prepared, how the interview happened in the first place, and how he thought it went.

You must be exhausted right now.

I’m actually hungry. I’m not that exhausted. I’m trying to eat a little something. It’s been a very exciting day. The actual conversation with the president was the easiest part of the day.

So what was the hardest part?

Keeping my shit together so I could have an easy conversation with the president.

What time was the interview?

He came over at like 5 to 10. He was out by 5 after 11. It’s been a crazy few days.

What were you doing in the minutes before Obama got to your house?

I was playing some guitar. Looking a bit at my notes. Trying to find a space among snipers, LAPD, Secret Service people, my producer, White House staffers. And so I was playing guitar and going in and out of the garage. Trying to stay in a zone where I could be present for what was about to happen.

Tell me how you were feeling at the moment when he pulled up.

We were told he was going to chopper into the Rose Bowl, which is about eight minutes from my house. He was going to leave the hotel, get a chopper in Santa Monica. The alternative would’ve been to tie up traffic in the entire city. It was bad enough that around here I felt the weight of my neighbors being a little aggravated.

Had you and the Secret Service just been hanging out for hours?

Some guys came and started building this tent over the driveway yesterday. So the first people here were really just a crew of dudes putting up the rest of the tent. And then at 7 this morning, the Secret Service came and they were briefed in my living room. I live in a small house.

And you have cats, right?

I have two cats. They were in the back. I locked them in the bedroom.

Did you put out snacks for everyone?

No, I didn’t put out anything. But they could use the bathroom. My one bathroom.

Then at some point the snipers came. You saw these guys pull up, and it was like, okay. These are the dudes with the big guns. Then they went up on my neighbor Dennis’ roof.

Poor Dennis.

No, Dennis was thrilled. Dennis is retired. This is very exciting for Dennis.

So then after everyone set up, there’s LAPD on my other neighbor’s deck, two snipers on Dennis’ roof. Secret Service spread out in front, LAPD around the perimeter on the bottom of the hill.

They tell me to go outside and there’s a flurry of activity at the bottom of the driveway. One big police vehicle goes by. Another police vehicle goes by. And then a big vehicle drives up. All of the sudden there’s a couple Secret Service people, and some White House people, and then in the midst of them all I see a hand go up. And he says: “Marc!”

I told him which chair to sit in, and then we got right into it. One Secret Service guy stood in the room. One stood outside.

When you have someone roll up like Louis C.K., or Mindy Kaling, or Judd Apatow, what’s that arrival like? I assume the LAPD does not show up.

I don’t have to set up a tent for Judd Apatow. As much as he might find that flattering. A lot of people park up the street and are like, where is this? I’ve seen a large number of celebrities wandering my street wondering where it is.

In the Times, you talked about needing to engage in a conversation that would be “worthy of the president.” How do you prepare to do that, specifically?

In my mind, being that I don’t really do political talk anymore, and quite honestly I’ve been a little bit disconnected from it, I was talking to the president. And he’s a politician. So I’m not going to go in there and talk about what kind of salads we like. It’s my responsibility to myself and to him to try to have a varied conversation that ranged from personal to political without getting too wonky or getting into areas that I really don’t know about.

You’ve said you read Dreams of My Father to prepare. What was your preconception of him before the interview?

That was the best thing I did in my mind. I got a deep sense of who he was as a younger man and how he struggled to sort of put his own identity together and figure out what was important to him personally, on an emotional level, on a level of his racial identity.

How was that prep different from your normal interview prep?

I don’t prepare like that, that’s for sure.

When we were preparing to have him come over, I got home on Wednesday night, after the shooting in Charleston happened. And I thought, I guess this isn’t gonna happen anymore, and that’s understandable. We didn’t know if it was gonna happen or not. We waited. We watched his statement the next day, and it seemed like they were still coming out here. The guys were still moving forward with the tent-building, and everything seemed to be on schedule.

So then I sort of felt like, we have to address this. He lost someone he knew in that tragedy and was clearly very emotional during his statement.

And because of the timing of it, knowing we were taping on Friday and it was coming out on Monday, I knew we had to address it. He might be going down there this weekend, I don’t know.

How did you feel about the idea of discussing Charleston with the president?

I said to myself, if he’s still coming out here, I have no problem engaging that. It didn’t make me uncomfortable. I thought of it as respectful. I think he showed up here expecting a certain tone, and I think the array of tones we were able to engage in, emotional, political, and personal was pretty varied. Talking about the shooting got us to guns and race and all sorts of other stuff.

Was there a pivot moment? One moment in particular that changed how you felt about him?

The moment that changed how I felt about the guy happened immediately. Because he’s the president, and no matter how cynical I may have gotten in my life, or how disengaged I am with politics, as an American, you know the opportunity to meet the president period is insanely big. No matter how jaded you are and no matter what party you’re from. So right when he showed up, all I wanted was to feel that he was a man, a human guy, that he was real. And right away, not only was he real, but he was disarming. I was stressed out! And he made me feel better.

Were you a big Obama supporter? Did you vote for him?

Yes I voted for him. Was I a big Obama supporter? I mean yeah, I wanted him to be president.

For me it was really just a matter of making sure he didn’t get into the weeds, or too wonky about whatever I brought up.

What was the first moment you realized this interview was a legitimate possibility?

I couldn’t believe it almost up until it happened. Then I just got nervous. I was like, what if I have nothing to talk about? What if I’m in way over my head? I didn’t want to have an interview that was just me going like, yeah so I have cats, you got a dog? I’m terrified of that. And I just couldn’t let that happen. And it didn’t. In other words, it was a little different from my other interviews.

How did the interview happen?

They reached out to us! Months ago. Apparently one of his staffers was a fan of WTF. When they reached out to us I was like, oh yeah sure. Then all of the sudden it was happening. I was like OK where do I gotta go? Do I fly to D.C.? I’ll fly to D.C. to talk to the president. And they were like no. He wants to come to the garage. I was like THAT’S CRAZY.

Was he funny?

He’s very charming. He’s got a funny sort of thing he does, kind of: “I get it, I get it.”

You didn’t have to give his people final review of the interview?

No, no. He’s a big boy. He’s the president. I’m pretty sure he’s confident he can handle himself with me. I asked him if he was nervous on the chopper coming over to talk to me. He goes: No.

I like that he didn’t even humor you. He wasn’t even like, sure, Marc.

Nope. Not at all.

Someone at Slate was wondering jokingly whether you were going to ask Obama whether he’d ever met Lorne. You didn’t feel obligated to work that in, kind of like a callback?

A lot of people wanted me to. Maybe he has met Lorne. I think it would’ve been funny. But quite honestly, the time went by so fast. When I started looking at the clock, at the amount of time I had, and trying to figure out where can I get him to go—how do I prioritize, Lorne didn’t come up. Though strangely somehow Louie did. Which he is gonna love.

Were you surprised at who Obama said his favorite comedians were?

No. Richard Pryor, Dick Gregory, Louis C.K., that makes total sense.

Is there anything you wish you did differently?

Not yet. Talk to me when I actually have time to think for a second.

Were you overwhelmed by his smoothness? Like: This guy knows how to talk, he knows how to be interviewed, how do I crack him?

Yeah, I mean, but I knew that going in. I don’t know if I was overwhelmed, but I have a tendency to be like, OK I get it, lets just keep going, but you don’t wanna do that to the president. And I wasn’t there to do a confrontational political interview.

But you’re not there to do PR for him either, so I imagine it’s hard to strike the balance.

Well, he told me why he wanted to do the show.

What did he say?

He said I want to try to talk people into engaging in politics. I mean, the code there could’ve been that he is a Democrat, he is out here raising money for the Democratic Party, we know who the Democratic candidate is—but he didn’t say that to me. He said, I want people to engage in the political process. I want people to get involved. That’s why he said he was using my show.

Are you a Hillary guy?

Well, let’s see what happens. I’m generally a Democrat, yes.

I’ve heard you say that you try to go into every interview and figure out “Who is this guy?” So what’s the big takeaway here? Who is this guy?

I think this guy is very intense, earnest, focused. He’s very passionate about making peoples lives better and making the country better. And the way he negotiates that and keeps going at it every day with seemingly no bitterness or sense of disappointment or anger that he would allow anyone to see. He struck me as a very responsible man. He walks the walk.

A lot of your best interviews are so good because you’re leveraging a very personal perspective on the comedy business—you’ve done it, you’ve suffered through it, you have regrets, you experience envy of others’ success, and you are very open about that. Is it hard to do an interview where you don’t have any of that experience, and those emotions, to bring to bear?

Yes! Yes. First of all out of respect I was not gonna sit there and say, I kinda relate to, uh, some of the decisions you made in your foreign policy because you know, I have neighbors. I’m not gonna assume that my experience—other than the experience of being around the same age he is and having my own struggles with who I am in the world—has anything to do with him.

But where we really sort of met emotionally was toward the end. I asked him frankly about how he compartmentalizes when he has to show up and do things. How do you show up and do this in light of what happened Wednesday? How do you do stand-up comedy at the White House Correspondents Dinner while they are killing Osama Bin Laden? How do you show up to the final campaign speech, which I was at, in Manassas the night before the election the day after your grandmother who raised you dies? How do you do your act? How do you do your job?

So what did he say?

Basically, he said, the more you do it, the more it becomes second nature to you. He brought up something that I’m very aware of in myself, which is: There’s a point in your life where you realize that you’re not afraid anymore. That because of your experience, you realize one day that you’re fearless. And that’s an amazing day.

 

[Art Vandelay]

WTF Podcast
Episode 613 - President Barack Obama
Mon, June 22, 2015

Marc welcomes the 44th President of the United States of America, Barack Obama, to the garage for conversation about college, fitting in, race relations, gun violence, changing the status quo, disappointing your fans, comedians, fatherhood and overcoming fear. And yes, this really happened. This episode is presented without commercial interruption courtesy of Squarespace. Go to MarcMeetsObama.com to see behind-the-scenes photos and captions.

LISTEN

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

But he won't meet with the Black Caucus though hmmm

 

[Art Vandelay]

But he won't meet with the Black Caucus though hmmm

Would you make the same criticism if this were about his fundraiser at Tyler Perry's house the same day?

Legislative relationships, fundraisers and press are not exactly the same thing.

 

[JCAL1705]

Damn. That's huge.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Obama said the n-word to make a point. The media's reaction proved him right.
Dara Lind
June 22, 2015

On President Obama's interview with comedian Marc Maron for Maron's WTF podcast, which was posted Monday, Obama made a vague but worthwhile point about racism in America: Some kinds of explicit racism might be considered bad manners now, but that doesn't mean underlying problems have been addressed:

Racism, we are not cured of it. And it's not just a matter of not being polite to say 'ni**er' in public. That's not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It's not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don't, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 or 300 years prior.​

This statement can be interpreted as a critique of the media, as much as anything. There's much more interest in covering discrete incidents of outright racism than there is in covering subtler but still influential ways that racial bias shapes society. Donald Sterling got pushed out as owner of the LA Clippers for telling his girlfriend not to bring black men to games, not for his history of lawsuits over racist housing practices.

So how did the media respond to Obama's critique? By leading with his use of the n-word:

Of course, Obama isn't the first president to use the word. Other presidents have used it, not to criticize racism but to, well, be racist. Only a few years before Lyndon B. Johnson signed the biggest civil rights laws in American history, he routinely described an earlier civil rights bill as "the ni**er bill." Harry Truman referred to pioneering black Congressman Adam Clayton Powell as "that damned ni**er preacher." (This column by Randall Kennedy, who literally wrote the book on the subject, goes into much more detail about the history of the word.)

But because Obama used it after it's become impolite, people are pouncing on it — and doing exactly what Obama said the problem was: focusing on the expressions of racism that aren't considered polite anymore, rather than the ones that are.

It's just plain easier to write about violations of social norms than it is to point out the problems hidden within those norms.

 

[SPECTRE1]

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He is a Jesse Peterson in sheeps clothing. He has been calling you a nigga to your face based on these speeches he has been giving for years. Here he blames our mass incarceration on us, it would be similar to blaming the Holocaust on absent Jewish fathers.

President Obama sounds like Dylan Roof calling us an animal and that we don't take care of our kids. He has done this interview for damage control purposes internationally.


He needs to quit covering up another organized attack by whites against blacks - this was no lonewolf attack. He was ordered to kill, whites sacrificed a pawn piece to send a message, just like Bin Laden authorized 9/11 and sacrificed 19 people to make a point.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I just finished it-- very good from start to finish.

I wish the n-word debate didn't overshadow what he said about systematic injustice immediately after.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Obama shines on “WTF”: Maron’s intimate podcast could be a game-changer for American politics
The medium strips away much of the performance we have come to expect from politicians—human connection follows
SEAN CANNON
JUN 22, 2015

Can you believe President Obama said the N-word on “WTF”!?!? There, we got that out of the way. We good? Now we can, as Marc Maron would say, get into it.

Sometimes podcast devotees forget that the medium is nascent, even in this late stage of its development (it’s downright ancient in Internet years, after all). Relatively early adopters are so steeped in the culture of podcasts and their proliferation that it’s easy to gloss over the fact that most people are pretty clueless about them. Sure, “Serial” helped expose an entire segment of middle class liberal basics to the world of podcasts, but contrary to popular belief — and the appearance of your Twitter feed — that’s not the entire world.

So the President of the goddamn United States of America sitting down with Marc Maron for his “WTF” podcast is a watershed moment. Both for podcasting as a form, and potentially for the shape of American discourse. Radio was once such an intimate and engaging medium before deregulation destroyed its character. Podcasting has been able to take that intimacy and crank it up by an order of magnitude. I’m not saying this one interview will change the world, but the conversation with President Obama was unlike any I’ve heard to this point.

Given Maron’s propensity to delve into controversial topics on an internal level and pick at emotional scars, it was hard to tell how things would go. This isn’t a cult figure like Chris Elliott or even a megastar like Will Ferrell. This is the most important man in the free world; someone who only exists in the distance, as a caricature of a caricature in the minds of almost everyone. Even when he shows emotion, it’s only after it’s been sifted through the pens of speechwriters and communications directors. And considering that the interview took place a day after Obama addressed the shooting in South Carolina, there was an even thicker fog of mystery surrounding the podcast.

Part of me expected Maron to be Maron, to poke and prod. Part of me expected him be more reserved and distant. In other words, I didn’t know if he would lead or follow. What happened was at once both and neither. Obama wasn’t humanized through discussion of his upbringing or his struggles (though both were touched upon), but through the manner in which he was allowed to speak. While politics was unsurprisingly a large part of the conversation, hammering home talking points or staying on message wasn’t. Again, this is a guy who is understandably coached on almost every word that comes out of his mouth.

So when he spoke at length about the looming reality of racism in America while dropping the N-word (“It’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say ‘n**ger’ in public. That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not.”), it was powerful and inspiring. When he talked about how essential pragmatism is to American politics (“Sometimes your job is just to make stuff work. Sometimes the task of government is to make incremental improvements or try to steer the ocean liner two degrees north or south…”), it made you want to abandon stubborn ideologies. And when Obama agreed with Maron’s assertion that the presidency is “middle management,” you knew grandiosity and ego went right out the garage door.

Listening to the President of the United States of America talk about what it takes to be the President of the United States of America on a purely human level was a little jarring. And I mean that in the best way possible. Here’s someone constantly forced to play an incredibly rigid role — he readily admitted as much while commiserating with Maron about the freedom that comes from fearlessness in the performance — actually being himself. To suggest that Obama had completely shed all concern for how he’d be perceived is obviously ludicrous, but how many people ever do? That’s not about playing the role of President as much as it’s about playing the role of a human being.

When there’s not an audience in the room, real or imagined, there’s no performance needed. That’s the power of podcasting. That’s why this interview has the potential to change political discourse. When politicians have the freedom to stop performing, they have faces and not just masks. When people have faces, whether it’s an elected official or the guy at the end of the bar, discussing politics becomes immeasurably easier. Certainly far from easy, but easier nonetheless. Marc Maron didn’t reveal any deep, dark secrets about Barack Obama. But he did help the president take off his mask.

 

[II Dxnum]

how many times did he say the term 'white supremacy'.

 

[ballscout1]

I just finished it-- very good from start to finish.

I wish the n-word debate didn't overshadow what he said about systematic injustice immediately after.

you must have been hearing things because he doesn't talk about things like that ..

how many times did he say the term 'white supremacy'.

why would you ask a question ? if you listened to it you should know the answer..

and systemic injustice means exactly that....expand your vocabulary a little bit so you don't sound like a pull string doll

 

[II Dxnum]

why would you ask a question ? if you listened to it you should know the answer..

and systemic injustice means exactly that....expand your vocabulary a little bit so you don't sound like a pull string doll

because I'm really going to comb through this shit to count.

and systemic injustice does not mean white supremacy you asshat.

keep my quotes out your post next time old man.

 

[Art Vandelay]

you must have been hearing things because he doesn't talk about things like that ..

I'm not gonna transcribe the whole thing for you but the part the media is quoting is just after 46:30.

By 47:25, after saying "the march isn't over," he's saying "now our job is, in very concrete ways, to figure out what more we can do." The first example he gives is policing. "Part of the reason cops have a tough job, particularly in big cities, is that there are communities that are poor, are systematically locked out of opportunity, that suffer from legacies of discrimination that have been built up over generations and we send cops in there basically to say 'Keep those folks from making too much trouble.'"

 

[ballscout1]

I'm not gonna transcribe the whole thing for you but the part the media is quoting is just after 46:30.

By 47:25, after saying "the march isn't over," he's saying "now our job is, in very concrete ways, to figure out what more we can do." The first example he gives is policing. "Part of the reason cops have a tough job, particularly in big cities, is that there are communities that are poor, are systematically locked out of opportunity, that suffer from legacies of discrimination that have been built up over generations and we send cops in there basically to say 'Keep those folks from making too much trouble.'"

sarcasm Art.

 

[ballscout1]

because I'm really going to comb through this shit to count.

and systemic injustice does not mean white supremacy you asshat.

keep my quotes out your post next time old man.

what you gonna do about it

 

[Art Vandelay]

sarcasm Art.

Ah. Wasn't clear to me.

After the response to my Father's Day Eye Enlargement Surgery post, I can't assume people would pick up on something as obvious as what I bolded for you.

 

[ballscout1]

Ah. Wasn't clear to me.

After the response to my Father's Day Eye Enlargement Surgery post, I can't assume people would pick up on something as obvious as what I bolded for you.

that's true...

 

[Nzinga]

The cac kept saying "man" to the president. I wonder if he would say that
George Bush or any other cac president

 

[silentking]

The cac kept saying "man" to the president. I wonder if he would say that
George Bush or any other cac president

On that show, probably so. The informality of it is what gave it room to be such a good interview.


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[ballscout1]

The cac kept saying "man" to the president. I wonder if he would say that
George Bush or any other cac president

Inside Marc is not really a happy man. He needs people to admire him
to feel validated, worthy and happy. This is the only reason why he keeps
saying more and more outrageous interview questions...because once
he has been heard saying something, he feels that he needs to top that thing
so that he can retain attention. At the bottom of this is a feeling of inadequacy
which he tries to compensate for with the having wild interviews...

 

[Costanza]

Episode 1686 - Barack Obama — WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

For the final episode of WTF, Marc travels to Washington, DC for another conversation with the most significant guest in the show’s history. Former President Barack Obama welcomes Marc into his office to speak about the legacy of the podcast, the need for human connection, and the reason fo

www.wtfpod.com

For the final episode of WTF, Marc travels to Washington, DC for another conversation with the most significant guest in the show’s history. Former President Barack Obama welcomes Marc into his office to speak about the legacy of the podcast, the need for human connection, and the reason for optimism in the face of challenging times. Also, President Obama grants Marc’s specific request to help bring some closure to the past sixteen years of WTF.

 

[D24OHA]

Farewell WTF

 

[Costanza]

Farewell WTF

One of many shows I wish I had listened to more.

I only recall listening to Obama and Louis CK, and I think Natasha Lyonne.

Are there interviews you would particularly recommend?

 

[Costanza]

I kind of hope he worked it in there again as a callback.

 

[Costanza]

9:15