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NYC Wallets Raped Again: MTA approves subway, bus and commuter train fare hikes

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The MTA board approved subway, bus and commuter train fare hikes Thursday, the third increase for straphangers since 2008.

The vote came just months after the MTA slashed bus and subway service, and cut thousands of jobs.

The dissenting votes came from Norman Seabrook, head of the corrections officers union, and Pat Foye, the Nassau County representative.

"I'm not going to support a fare hike - not now, not ever - when it comes with cutting service, laying off people and then asking riders for more," Seabrook said.

Foye and Seabrook blasted state government in Albany for failing to adequately fund mass transit. Board member Allan Cappelli "unhappily" voted for the package, noting the board is legally required to balance the budget.

He, too, criticized state politicians who "stole" $160 million in MTA funding to help balance the state's own budget.

"If we don't increase revenues, we are looking at service cuts of a gargantuan nature," Cappelli said

Millions of daily riders will start paying more starting Dec. 30.

The 30-day unlimited-ride MetroCard will rise from $89 to a whopping $104, while the unlimited-ride seven-day MetroCard jumpes from $27 to $29.

The MTA will no longer sell One-Day Fun passes or 14-day MetroCards, and a single ride will jump from $2.25 to $2.50. Bonuses on pay-per-ride MetroCards will plummet from 15% to 7% - and will start after riders spend $10, up from $8.

MTA Chairman Jay Walder has said the hikes - the third since just 2008 - are necessary to help fill budget gaps caused by sharp drops in tax revenues and funding cuts adopted by the state Legislature and Gov. Paterson.

The state late last year kept $143 million in transit-dedicated funds to help balance its own budget. Now $16 million from another pot of funding is being cut by the state, irate board members say.

In addition to raising fares, the MTA is cutting costs by about $500 million a year, officials have said.

It has laid off thousands of workers, including bus drivers and token booth clerks. Critics, including the Transit Workers Union and Straphangers Campaign, said the MTA should have shifted a fraction of federal stimulus money to avoid or delay hikes.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...subway_bus_and_commuter_train_fare_hikes.html

I feel bad for the people who have no choice but to use the subway cuz that shit is one of the main reasons ppl are stressed before they even get to work. Express bus & Metro North may cost more but at least you get your money worth.
 
somebody needs to follow the money in the MTA. I've seen too much bullshit going on as far as money being wasted. All over the city, perfectly intact bus stops are being torn up and exact replicas being replaced. They added this bullshit to the stations where it shows you how soon a train is coming? Is that really necessary for the millions I'm sure it's costing us to install and maintain? Somebody needs to follow the money and expose the bullshit.

Somebody needs to follow the money in the NYPD also. Is it just me or those cops on street patrol and those "protecting" the river crossings are always sleeping, talking on cell phones or texting. I'm sure the terrorists peeped that too.
 
cli-terminator said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...subway_bus_and_commuter_train_fare_hikes.html

I feel bad for the people who have no choice but to use the subway cuz that shit is one of the main reasons ppl are stressed before they even get to work. Express bus & Metro North may cost more but at least you get your money worth.
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Have you ever compared what it costs to take a cab the same distance that people take the bus/train?

$2.25 and even $2.50 is a bargain, especially in this no 2 fare zone era, but with that being said I'm still lost as to why not just eliminate some of the discounts they have with buying Metrocards as opposed to raising the fare?

These things just don't make any sense to me.

For example, when you put $20 on your card you get $23 worth of rides, with .50 remaining (and they've been making $$$ on this leftover amount!).

Why not just make it $20 gets you $20 instead of raising the fare?
 
Damn! This is crazy. NY is becoming more and more of an unlivable place. It sucks to be poor and to live in NY!!! Wow! There is no fucking middle class in NYC. Where do these folks expect us to come up with the money to pay for these services that they continue to price hike?
 
Money Machine said:
I just to dc from ny. Y'all lucky, no unlimited out here.
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Maybe but the service has degraded over the years. Like mentioned before, where is all the money going because each year they report a defecit but where did the defecit come from cuz it sure didn't come from improving the service. Subway stations are still dirty as hell with poor ventilation during the summer months, tracks are always on the fritz, bus & train routes are getting cut making it more difficult for people to travel and the list goes on. From what I'm hearing, the city is already charging a tax for MTA usage regardless of if you use the service or not & you have to wonder where your money is going to. NYC residents are being taken advantage of with their money going to bullshit like replacing street signs that there was nothing wrong with in the 1st place & now another fare hike. I feel bad for my NYC ppl with no other alternative. Shit like this is why I now say NYC is great for visiting but not to live because you can't enjoy your money unless you're in the high 5-figure to 6-figure salary.
 
nukdollars said:
Now you see why so many people are saying goodbye to NYC...
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It ain't the subway it's the high cost of living/housing.

A studio apartment here on the low end is $800 a month.

In quite a few other cities you could rent a whole house for less, and it's a mortgage in others!
 
What's funny is that we're to passive aggressive with this shit. It doesn't matter if you could afford it, it's the principle behind it!

A committee has to be established to monitor the way the MTA is managing their funds. They also got to investigate where this money from the fair hike is going. The service got worse; they cut the volume of trains which increased the wait times.

As long as we allow this shit, the MTA won't ever stop doing this shit.

A fare hike should occur every other year or so. The MTA even said they will still have a deficit in their next fiscal year. You know what that means? They gonna raise that shit again!

At this rate, in 2-3 years a one way ride is gonna be $3.50-4!
 
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Djmarkxr7 said:
Have you ever compared what it costs to take a cab the same distance that people take the bus/train?

$2.25 and even $2.50 is a bargain, especially in this no 2 fare zone era, but with that being said I'm still lost as to why not just eliminate some of the discounts they have with buying Metrocards as opposed to raising the fare?

These things just don't make any sense to me.

For example, when you put $20 on your card you get $23 worth of rides, with .50 remaining (and they've been making $$$ on this leftover amount!).

Why not just make it $20 gets you $20 instead of raising the fare?
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Fam, I'm from NY so I know what you're talking about. But let's be honest. How many people do you know are going to take a cab to work everyday no matter where you live? The trains are over packed, and unpredictable. If not for how compact Manhattan is, the raised prices for parking and the scarcity of parking, more people would drive to work. Since they can't, they're forced to use the subway system that drains a lot of energy out of you before you even get to work. I used to take the 5 train in to midtown everyday & my travel could range from 45mins to an hour on a normal day. God forbid it's raining or snowing cuz then I'd have to add at least an additional 30 mins to that. Having to deal with pissed off or uncourteous people, subway stenches, and constant delays had you frustrated as hell but your day hasn't even started yet. When I started taking the Metro North & express bus, that stress decreased dramatically. Unfortunately everyone doesn't get that luxury.
 
fles said:
What's funny is that we're to passive aggressive with this shit. It doesn't matter if you could afford it, it's the principle behind it!

A committee has to be established to monitor the way the MTA is managing their funds. They also got to investigate where this money from the fair hike is going. The service got worse; they cut the volume of trains which increased the wait times.

As long as we allow this shit, the MTA won't ever stop doing this shit.

A fare hike should occur every other year or so. The MTA even said they will still have a deficit in their next fiscal year. You know what that means? They gonna raise that shit again!

At this rate, in 2-3 years a one way ride is gonna be $4!
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I have to check but I believe Albany just passed a bill that says the MTA has to have transparency concerning its books since they receive money from the state.

How they didn't have this since the MTA was in its prsent form is just stupid.

There is definitely a lot of waste going on, especially when you aren't accountable to anybody!

What doesn't make sense is raising fares and cutting services, isn't that in effect a double raise???

And then you cut jobs as well?????

:smh::smh::smh::smh::smh:
 
cli-terminator said:
Fam, I'm from NY so I know what you're talking about. But let's be honest. How many people do you know are going to take a cab to work everyday no matter where you live? The trains are over packed, and unpredictable. If not for how compact Manhattan is, the raised prices for parking and the scarcity of parking, more people would drive to work. Since they can't, they're forced to use the subway system that drains a lot of energy out of you before you even get to work. I used to take the 5 train in to midtown everyday & my travel could range from 45mins to an hour on a normal day. God forbid it's raining or snowing cuz then I'd have to add at least an additional 30 mins to that. Having to deal with pissed off or uncourteous people, subway stenches, and constant delays had you frustrated as hell but your day hasn't even started yet. When I started taking the Metro North & express bus, that stress decreased dramatically. Unfortunately everyone doesn't get that luxury.
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Don't get me wrong, I started taking the express bus for the same reason, I'm just pointing out that compared to the alternatives mass transit is a bargain.

On the other hand I don't agree with raising the fare and cutting services @ the same time, in effect a double raise for them.

End result, we lose.

How the MTA has been able to do what they do w/o the public or even Albany for that matter having access to their books since it is NOT a private corporation is mind-boggling.

And cost of living raises in today's climate (IF you get one!) just doesn't keep up!

Someone seriously needs to come up with a business model for the MTA because it can and should be run a whole lot better than it is!!!
 
Holy shit! They're going up AGAIN!
That has to be like the 5th time they've gone up in 3 years.
And I thought DC Metro was getting out of hand. NYC is on that bullshit.
I'm sorry, I'm never moving back now. That shit is for the birds.
 
Djmarkxr7 said:
Don't get me wrong, I started taking the express bus for the same reason, I'm just pointing out that compared to the alternatives mass transit is a bargain.

On the other hand I don't agree with raising the fare and cutting services @ the same time, in effect a double raise for them.

End result, we lose.

How the MTA has been able to do what they do w/o the public or even Albany for that matter having access to their books since it is NOT a private corporation is mind-boggling.

And cost of living raises in today's climate (IF you get one!) just doesn't keep up!

Someone seriously needs to come up with a business model for the MTA because it can and should be run a whole lot better than it is!!!
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Believe or not, the MTA was and still kind of is considered to be a PSEUDO-Private Authority. Which kinds of explains why they were able to get away with all this bullshit for so long.
 
Heist said:
Holy shit! They're going up AGAIN!
That has to be like the 5th time they've gone up in 3 years.
And I thought DC Metro was getting out of hand. NYC is on that bullshit.
I'm sorry, I'm never moving back now. That shit is for the birds.
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I know the prices are way different but they raised the prices 3 times in a 18 month span in Cleveland....rumor has it that they are about to raise the prices up again soon :smh::smh::smh:
 
Djmarkxr7 said:
It ain't the subway it's the high cost of living/housing.

A studio apartment here on the low end is $800 a month.

In quite a few other cities you could rent a whole house for less, and it's a mortgage in others!
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Houston says hi...
 
kinglickk said:
somebody needs to follow the money in the mta. I've seen too much bullshit going on as far as money being wasted. All over the city, perfectly intact bus stops are being torn up and exact replicas being replaced. They added this bullshit to the stations where it shows you how soon a train is coming? Is that really necessary for the millions i'm sure it's costing us to install and maintain? Somebody needs to follow the money and expose the bullshit.

Somebody needs to follow the money in the nypd also. Is it just me or those cops on street patrol and those "protecting" the river crossings are always sleeping, talking on cell phones or texting. I'm sure the terrorists peeped that too.
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