NO tobe = fakers W

[cranrab]

seems like only a few hours ago the BGOL fakers faithful were bashing the "rest of the squad"... all the usual cat-calls: bums, scrubs, no-talent hacks according to the fakers "fans"...

so what happens when the fakers players with actual talent get to take the floor against the 2 time MVP steve nash and the phoenix suns?

oh nothing, they just win handily...

but what about that no-heart softie, unaggressive lamar odom?

oh nothing, double double, 30+ points, 10+ rebounds...

EDIT: i originally typed 15+ rebounds. the correct number should have been 10+ (as he actually got 13)

 

[xfactor]

seems like only a few hours ago the BGOL fakers faithful were bashing the "rest of the squad"... all the usual cat-calls: bums, scrubs, no-talent hacks according to the fakers "fans"...

so what happens when the fakers players with actual talent get to take the floor against the 2 time MVP steve nash and the phoenix suns?

oh nothing, they just win handily...

but what about that no-heart softie, unaggressive lamar odom?

oh nothing, double double, 30+ points, 15+ rebounds...

And the sad part about it is that these pseudo laker fans actually were cheering for Phoenix to win just so they didnt have to admit that the team plays great (and better IMO) without Wobe.

 

[RunawaySlave]

I was gonna start a thread called Lakers 1-0??



Sidenote: The Lakers shot 56% last night. Take
aways Vujacic's 0-4 and it gets even higher

btw, XFactor, did you check your emails?? You should
have info about the NBA.com league. Draft is in a few
hours

 

[RunawaySlave]

No Kobe?? No Phil??

No problem??

2-0

 

[cranrab]

who da hell that pot smoker lamar odom think he is, magic johnson?

22-9-9 from a no-heart, passive pile of trade bait...

fakers fans and tobe riders better start thinking up some new scapegoat shit...

where dey at right about now?

quick note: william parker better not get caught looking over his shoulder, because UCLA shitbird jordan farmar is breathing down his neck for minutes...

and one more thing: just like last night, it WASN'T close... no coincidence to me...

no tobe fucking up the rhythm of training camp, no tobe fucking up the rhythm of the games... let the real players play, get some time in together, and we see what the real squad is capable of...

 

[RunawaySlave]

btw, XFactor, did you check your emails?? You should
have info about the NBA.com league. Draft is in a few
hours

Yoooo!! I got 11 hard core teams in this league!!!
Absolutely NO ghosts!!! Two of the cats not signed
yet are Turbo and DOWNTOWN


Anyway, I'm still not a big Odom fan. I still think he
do shit the hard way, going right when he's left handed
and all, but he definitely elevating his game right now


One more thing.........


KNICKS BABY!!

 

[xfactor]

I was hoping one of them would say something but its been nothing but crickets chirping around here. The funny thing about it is that Im also certain they'll lose their first game when Bryant comes back.

Finally glad to see a guy like Turiaf have a good game being that he was a pretty solid player at Gonzaga.

Yoooo!! I got 11 hard core teams in this league!!!
Absolutely NO ghosts!!! Two of the cats not signed
yet are Turbo and DOWNTOWN

Check your PM box.

 

[cranrab]

I was hoping one of them would say something but its been nothing but crickets chirping around here.

i'm waiting for the dullards to try and fly the "well they've had more time to play together, and they're building off the success of last year" type of BULLSHIT.

of course, only a fakers fan would overlook the fact that maurice evans, vladimir radmanovic, jordan farmar, and shammond williams are BRAND NEW and logging minutes.

no tobe = fakers W

 

[blooo]

who da hell that pot smoker lamar odom think he is, magic johnson?

 

[TimRock]

Oh how i miss these Kobe threads.

 

[ebonymanej]

Don't foget that no chris mihm and no kwame brown = much better play from bynum,turiaf and gang so far... its still early so we will see over the coming weeks how consistantly they perform but believe me cran i'm more elated about those guys being out than you are about kobe being out because if it were up to phil bynum would still be on the bench until he is "old enough" to play...and as for odom he played this well at the end of the season last year so no one should be suprised besides he not wade lead the heat to playoffs before the shaq trade although wade played very well also

 

[cranrab]

Don't foget that no chris mihm and no kwame brown = much better play from bynum,turiaf and gang

i'm happy for rony turiaf... i liked his work ethic, energy, and hustle. if he develops a consistent mid range shot he could be the euro version of a kurt rambis, ac green "type" player.

a lot of heads around town are hyped off of what they've seen from andrew bynum, but i think you're correct to take the "let's wait and see" approach with him.

 

[Bro_Man]

We see these Kobe/Laker hating threads every year. The Lakers won 2 games without Kobe and looked good doing it.....but come on Folks.....Ain't NO way you can honestly say this squad is better without Kobe. Kobe does have to blend in and help the team raise their game when he is on the court, but these Kats also have to step up and get theirs even when Kobe's in the game. It looks like they might be ready to do more than pass the ball back when Kobe gives them the Rock this year. Either way...Kobe or no Kobe as A laker fan I'll take a "W" any way it comes....But they are a playoff team with Kobe....without him....not so much.

 

[cranrab]

they are a playoff team with Kobe....without him....not so much.

it is a proven historical FACT that the fakers are a playoff team with lamar odom... without him, not so much.

 

[cranrab]

i don't think tobe's performance is due to a conditioning problem, to my eye it looks as though his knee is bothering him...

did tobe rush back too soon? or is it a mental thing?

 

[cranrab]

i'm happy for rony turiaf... i liked his work ethic, energy, and hustle. if he develops a consistent mid range shot he could be the euro version of a kurt rambis, ac green "type" player.

wasn't it NOBODY on BGOL talking nonsense about somebody can gauge talent better than me?

 

[Bro_Man]

it is a proven historical FACT that the fakers are a playoff team with lamar odom... without him, not so much.

WTF?!!?!! Odom has never lead the Lakers to the playoffs. He was a part of of that heat taem that went to the playoffs, but he was just that a part of the team. In short you need to clarify your point. the Lakers have and will be a playoff team without Odom.....I guess I'll just play like EPMD..and ask "SO What cha' saying?"......

 

[Diamels]

WTF?!!?!! Odom has never lead the Lakers to the playoffs. He was a part of of that heat taem that went to the playoffs, but he was just that a part of the team. In short you need to clarify your point. the Lakers have and will be a playoff team without Odom.....I guess I'll just play like EPMD..and ask "SO What cha' saying?"......

Check the Lakers record when Lamar is out of the lineup and you will have your answer.

 

[cranrab]

WTF?!!?!! Odom has never lead the Lakers to the playoffs.In short you need to clarify your point.

welcome to ADVANCED basketball class, where TRUTH reigns over fiction.

here's your homework, son. if you're MAN enough to seek the TRUTH, you will find it. if you're just a smoke blowing hot air fakers fan, you won't bother.

take a look at 2004-05. what was the fakers record before lamar odom got injured? what happened to the fakers record when lamar odom got injured? more importantly, was tobe in the lineup during the time lamar odom was injured? net result? fakers miss the playoffs with tobe leading the way.

take a look at 2005-06. what was the fakers record at the SAME POINT LAMAR ODOM GOT INJURED IN 2004-05? did lamar odom stay healthy in 2005-06? was tobe in the lineup during the time lamar odom stayed healthy? net result? fakers make the playoffs with lamar odom leading the way.

 

[pookie]

@ niggas trying to say Lamar "i disappear at important parts of the game" Odom lead the Lakers to the playoffs. Just like i sed in the other thread he's playing good "now" (start of the season, no kinda pressure on them) but wait until the season really gets going and they're in a game they really need, he's gonna disappear once again. No way in the world are the Lakers a better team without Kobe, only an extremeeeee KB8 hater would say that. As good as Turiaf, Bynum and the other inside players are playing right now watch Phil Jackson put Kwame Brown sorry ass back in the starting lineup when he gets back, now thats who is reallyyyyyy holding the Lakers back

 

[cranrab]

@ niggas trying to say Lamar "i disappear at important parts of the game" Odom lead the Lakers to the playoffs. Just like i sed in the other thread he's playing good "now" (start of the season, no kinda pressure on them) but wait until the season really gets going and they're in a game they really need, he's gonna disappear once again.

no need for us to "say" it. historical FACT proves it.

2004-05, because tobe was OUT 2 weeks, fakers have record good enough to enter the playoffs UNTIL LAMAR ODOM GETS HURT. lamar odom OUT, tobe IN, fakers nose dive, fatal tail spin, no playoffs, worst record in how long?

2004-05, lamar odom + tobe = almost IDENTICAL record to the same point as when lamar odom got injured in 04-05. after that point, fakers continue steady pace with lamar odom in the lineup (as opposed to 04-05) and enter the playoffs.

 

[RunawaySlave]

welcome to ADVANCED basketball class, where TRUTH reigns over fiction.

Watching the Sonics/Lakers game last night (thank you for
free NBA League Pass), got a rare chance to hear LENNY
WILKINS doing commentary. Dude was dropping some serious
truth about today's NBA....

To make it even better, last night was Sonics LEGENDS
Night and they had ex-players like Slick Watts, Fred Brown
and Spencer Haywood in the house and they were REALLY
running today's player and game down

I gotta find out where I can hear more Sonics games with
Wilkins......that was fun

 

[cranrab]

william parker
tobe bryant
luke walton
lamar odom
andrew bynum

TOP 10 MYTHS overheard from fakers fans:

the abominable snowman lives in big bear, california.

the fakers not named tobe are wash-outs, has-beens, and no-talent hacks with no chance of winning without tobe on the floor.

bigfoot owns a house in riverside, california.

tobe has to shoot more if the fakers want to win.

santa claus lives in the north pole.

tobe has to score more points for the fakers to have a chance to win.

there really is an easter bunny.

lamar odom isn't the reason the fakers are winning ball games.

the loch ness monster has been sighted in lake elsinore, california.

tobe is the best player on the fakers.

 

[RunawaySlave]

I think last night's Laker loss to the Sonics proves one thing:

That the Lakers actually DO HAVE a chance of becoming a
championship contender without Shaq.


~~BUT~~



Only if Kobe is willing to take on a more supportive role and
not be a chucker. Especially if either Mihm or Kwame Brown
can come back and play a significant BACKUP role to Andrew
Bynum. Which is the KEY to any chance of a TITLE run for
this team

When he played within the system and did not try to "take over"
Kobe style, the Lakers looked locked in. When he decided that it's
"Kobe time", the offense breaks down and the Sonics go on a run

Seems pretty obvious to me
(btw, the exact same thing goes for that little ignant in Philly 2)

 

[xfactor]

I think last night's Laker loss to the Sonics proves one thing:

That the Lakers actually DO HAVE a chance of becoming a
championship contender without Shaq.


~~BUT~~



Only if Kobe is willing to take on a more supportive role and
not be a chucker. Especially if either Mihm or Kwame Brown
can come back and play a significant BACKUP role to Andrew
Bynum. Which is the KEY to any chance of a TITLE run for
this team

When he played within the system and did not try to "take over"
Kobe style, the Lakers looked locked in. When he decided that it's
"Kobe time", the offense breaks down and the Sonics go on a run

Seems pretty obvious to me
(btw, the exact same thing goes for that little ignant in Philly 2)

Sad part about it is that he will never learn... Dont tell me you are still holding out hope like the rest of the "fans"

But Iverson and co are playing well this year. Mainly because his supporting cast has stepped up their games. They almost won tonight against a much improved Toronto team.

Im just glad your boys knocked off the Jazz tonight so the euro-hype would die down.

On a side note: What do you think about Marcus Williams? Is he as good as Kidd says?

 

[RunawaySlave]

Sad part about it is that he will never learn... Dont tell me you are still holding out hope like the rest of the "fans"

But Iverson and co are playing well this year. Mainly because his supporting cast has stepped up their games. They almost won tonight against a much improved Toronto team.

Im just glad your boys knocked off the Jazz tonight so the euro-hype would die down.

On a side note: What do you think about Marcus Williams? Is he as good as Kidd says?

I have to hope. I'm an old Laker "Showtime" fan from the 80's.
Plus, I like to see a title team built from the ground up. If Kobe
REALLY wantsa to win as much as he SAYS he does, he might
see this as the only way to bring it about.....

that's MIGHT

Williams is very talented. Can split time between both Guard spots
but I hate to see rookies get TOO much praise. They tend to not
work on their games after that. Treat em like dirt to make em grow

 

[Havoc]

I think last night's Laker loss to the Sonics proves one thing:

That the Lakers actually DO HAVE a chance of becoming a
championship contender without Shaq.


~~BUT~~



Only if Kobe is willing to take on a more supportive role and
not be a chucker. Especially if either Mihm or Kwame Brown
can come back and play a significant BACKUP role to Andrew
Bynum. Which is the KEY to any chance of a TITLE run for
this team

When he played within the system and did not try to "take over"
Kobe style, the Lakers looked locked in. When he decided that it's
"Kobe time", the offense breaks down and the Sonics go on a run

Seems pretty obvious to me
(btw, the exact same thing goes for that little ignant in Philly 2)

This is "truth" that I can agree with. It's really sad as far as Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm goes; their positions are pretty much gone lol. They'll probably end up joining later on (near the end of the season) simply because they'll have to get back into game shape, in addition to becoming familiar with the triangle (all over again).

 

[Havoc]

welcome to ADVANCED basketball class, where TRUTH reigns over fiction.

here's your homework, son. if you're MAN enough to seek the TRUTH, you will find it. if you're just a smoke blowing hot air fakers fan, you won't bother.

fakers make the playoffs with lamar odom leading the way.

You can't honestly believe L. Odom is the sole reason the Lakers will EVER make the playoffs it should read "Lakers make the playoffs with Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom leading the way."

 

[cranrab]

You can't honestly believe L. Odom is the sole reason the Lakers will EVER make the playoffs

never said lamar odom is the SOLE reason. i'm not even a fan of the pot smoker. an obvious big piece of the puzzle that deserves credit is coach jackson.

it should read "Lakers make the playoffs with Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom leading the way."

then it wouldn't be true. something like "lamar odom steadies fakers" or "lamar odom brings order to chaos" would be more accurate.

BTW, here's more TRUTH over fiction.

THIS SEASON before tobe:

fakers are 2-0

O averages 112 points per game

D averages 102 points allowed per game

the fakers won 1 game at home, and 1 game on the road

the fakers shot 50.2% FGAs.

THIS SEASON after tobe:

fakers are 2-2 (WORSE)

O averages 101 points per game (WORSE by 11 points)

D averages 104.5 points allowed per game (WORSE by 2.5 points)

the fakers won 2 games at home, and lost 2 games on the road (WORSE)

the fakers shot 49.2% FGAs (WORSE by 1%)

i think it's fair to say that tobe has a tremendous NEGATIVE impact on the fakers.

let's take a closer look:

fakers without tobe averaged 42.5 FGM and 84.5 FGA per game

fakers with tobe averaged 34.75 FGM and 70.5 FGA per game

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT TOBE IS HAVING A DETRIMENTAL CHILLING EFFECT ON HIS FAKERS TEAMMATES. when tobe plays, the fakers average 14 FEWER FGAs per game as a team, and average 7.75 FEWER FGM per game as a team.



FOOTNOTE: before some fanboy attempts to argue fiction over fact, let me add that the fakers current win-loss record has been compiled against the hapless WORSTern conference.

current w/l % of faker opponents before tobe: .333
current w/l % of faker opponents after tobe: .400

 

[TimRock]

never said lamar odom is the SOLE reason. i'm not even a fan of the pot smoker. an obvious big piece of the puzzle that deserves credit is coach jackson.



then it wouldn't be true. something like "lamar odom steadies fakers" or "lamar odom brings order to chaos" would be more accurate.

BTW, here's more TRUTH over fiction.

THIS SEASON before tobe:

fakers are 2-0

O averages 112 points per game

D averages 102 points allowed per game

the fakers won 1 game at home, and 1 game on the road

the fakers shot 50.2% FGAs.

THIS SEASON after tobe:

fakers are 2-2 (WORSE)

O averages 101 points per game (WORSE by 11 points)

D averages 104.5 points allowed per game (WORSE by 2.5 points)

the fakers won 2 games at home, and lost 2 games on the road (WORSE)

the fakers shot 49.2% FGAs (WORSE by 1%)

i think it's fair to say that tobe has a tremendous NEGATIVE impact on the fakers.

let's take a closer look:

fakers without tobe averaged 42.5 FGM and 84.5 FGA per game

fakers with tobe averaged 34.75 FGM and 70.5 FGA per game

THIS IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT TOBE IS HAVING A DETRIMENTAL CHILLING EFFECT ON HIS FAKERS TEAMMATES. when tobe plays, the fakers average 14 FEWER FGAs per game as a team, and average 7.75 FEWER FGM per game as a team.



FOOTNOTE: before some fanboy attempts to argue fiction over fact, let me add that the fakers current win-loss record has been compiled against the hapless WORSTern conference.

current w/l % of faker opponents before tobe: .333
current w/l % of faker opponents after tobe: .400

 

[RunawaySlave]

cot damn!! ain't no disputin those numbers

I like Kobe, but cot dayum!! (he did it again
tonite too)..Everytime he tries to "take over"
it seems to backfire

He better work on keeping those bigs involved

 

[wantyme]

how is this theory workin out for you faggots weeks later on a night when he drops 52 in 3 quarters against the first place jazz?

see you next year after a 4 game analysis.

?

 

[cranrab]

i see you got your platinum pass to the tobe lover simp club...

tobe had an impressive Q3 9-9 FGAs, and a boatload of charity at the stripe 10-10 FTAs. a good game, without question.

i know you didn't watch the game, so i'll let you know that the jazz D was pitiful, and tobe scored on pretty much the SAME PLAY on almost all of his perimeter field goals. did you happen to notice that he scored almost all of his FGs from the right side of the floor, or were you too busy wiping nut off your chin?

BTW, the "theory" is A FACT.

put down your purse during the final 16 minutes and you'd notice that the fakers NOT NAMED TOBE were the ones who GREW THE LEAD from 20 points to 30+...

@ typical fakers fans who always have a sack on their chin, and no brain in their head...

 

[cranrab]

a night when he drops 52 in 3 quarters against the first place jazz?

wow. i knew fakers fans were DUMB, but who knew they had such short memories too?

so the fakers and jazz split at each others' house. BIG DEAL. you DO remember just 6 short days ago that the jazz defeated the fakers, right?



as for the "1st place" jazz, are you talking about the same team that has lost 3 of it's last 4 games? all by more than 10 points each game?

since you've revealed to us that your entire basketball universe revolves around tobe, i'll provide you with some insight into the utah jazz: they're losing because euro andrei kirilenko has returned to the starting lineup.

FACT, not fiction.

 

[wantyme]

what a mad faggot, posting twice 1am in the morning because he had more kobe stuff on his mind. welp, happy to see your bitch azz was mad last night.