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Music Class: Big Pun ft. Fat Joe - Twinz (Deep Cover 98)

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[Big Punisher]
Ready for war, Joe, how you wanna blow they spot?
I know these dirty cops that'll get us in if we murder some wop
Hop in your Hummer, the Punisher's ready
Meet me at Vito's with Noodles
We'll do this dude while he's slurping spaghetti
Everybody kiss the fucking floor! Joey Crack, buck 'em all!
If they move – Noodles, shoot that fucking whore!
Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know
That we riddled two middlemen who didn't do diddly

[Fat Joe]
It'll be a cold day in Hell the day I take an L
Make no mistake for real, I wouldn't hesitate to kill
I'm still the fat one that you love to hate
Catch you at your mother's wake
Smack you, then I whack you with my snub tre eight

[Big Punisher]
I rub your face off the Earth and curse your family children
Like Amityville, I drill the nerves in your cavity filling
Insanity's buildin' a pavilion in my civilian
The cannon be the anarchy that humanity's dealin'
A villain without remorse, who's willin' to out your boss
Forever, and take all the cheddar, like child support

[Fat Joe]
I support Pun in anything he does, anything he loves
My brother from another mother sent from the above
A thug nigga just like me, one of the best – might be
Even better, leaving niggas kneeling on they right knee

[Big Punisher]
Spike Lee couldn't paint a better picture
You small change, I'm blowing out your brains, getting richer

[Fat Joe]
Hit you with the MAC, smack your bitch, nigga what?
You getting stuck, my trigger finger's itchy as a fuck

[Big Punisher]
Truck jewels, cruisin' in the Land, pumping "Cash Rules"
Last crew to want it caught a hundred tryin' to pass through

[Fat Joe]
That's true! (So who the next to get it?)
TS the best that did it
(Get it off your chest, kid, admit it, and it's…)

[Hook]
Yeah, and you don't stop!
(Twenty shot Glock with the cop killers, fill 'em to the top)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
Joey cracks the rock, and Big Pun keeps the guns cocked)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
(We'll make it hot, nigga what?
Bring it, I blow your whole spot)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
It's still one-eight-seven on an undercover cop

[Big Punisher]
Fuck the police, I squeeze first, make 'em eat dirt
Take 'em feet first through the morgue
Then lodge 'em in the deep earth
The street's cursed, the first amendment's culturally biased
Supposed to supply us with rights
Tonight I hold my rosary tight as I can
I'm one man against the world, just me and my girl
Black Pearl Latina mas fina but keeps it real
You know the deal, we steal from the rich and keep it
Peep it, it's no secret
Watch me and Joe go back and forth and freak it

[Fat Joe]
Creep with me, as I cruise in my Beemer
All the kids in the ghetto call me Don Cartagena
Kicking ass as I blast off heat
And you never see me talk to police
Though you should know that I really don't care
Pull you by the hair, slit your throat
And I'll leave you right there
So beware it's rare that niggas want beef, Big Pun speak
And let these motherfuckers know how we run the streets

[Big Punisher]
Fuck peace, I run the streets deep with no compassion
Puerto Ricans known for slashin'
Catching niggas while they sleeping, no relaxin'
Keep your eyes open, sharp reflexes
Three TECS's in the Jeep Lexus, just in case police test us
Street professors, Terror Squad, ghetto scholars
Full-a-clips mob, inflicts the fear of God
When the metal hollers
Better acknowledge or get knocked down
Until I'm locked and shot down
Heather B. couldn't make me put my Glock down

[Fat Joe]
We lock towns like rounds in the chamber
Boogie Down major like Nine, I bust mine
Every time plus I'm the crime boss of New York
Where we taught to walk the walk, all my niggas carry chalk
And stalk, I prey like the Predator
Whoever want it, go and get it, set it, baby, and I'ma bury ya
So remember the Squad that I'm reppin'
I fill a clip of my weapon
And punish niggas 'til it's armaggedeon

[Hook]
Yeah, and you don't stop!
(Twenty shot Glock with the cop killers, fill 'em to the top)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
Joey cracks the rock, and Big Pun keeps the guns cocked)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
(We'll make it hot, nigga what?
Bring it, I blow your whole spot)
Yeah, and you don't stop!
It's still one-eight-seven on an undercover cop
 
Complex sat down with Bronx bomber Fat Joe to discuss his 25 favorite songs from his nearly two decade career. During the interview, the Terror Squad/D.I.T.C. rapper spoke on his 1998 collaboration “Twinz (Deep Cover ’98)” with fellow Boogie Down emcee Big Punisher. Joe explained that he want to make a track the both the east and west coasts could be bump, so he and Pun decided to take a crack at Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg’s 1992 single “Deep Cover.”

“I knew I had to do a song with Pun on his album [Capital Punishment],” he said. “I also knew the world was bigger than New York, so we had to do a track that I knew they would play on the West Coast. When Snoop [Dogg] first came out, and him and Dr. Dre did that ‘Deep Cover,’ that was the hardest shit. And nobody had fucked with it. So I said, ‘Yo Pun, let’s go back and forth on this bitch so I can introduce you to the game.’ So we sat down and wrote it. Back and forth, we’re going in. Hard. We wrote it together.”

Joey Crack also spoke on Pun’s infamous “Dead in the middle of Little Italy” line from his verse in the song. He explained that Pun initially intended the line to be a joke, a la the “Pakinamac” skit from his debut LP. Joe, however, loved his partner’s tongue-twister rhyme and made him keep it in the track.

“The ‘Dead in the middle of Little Italy’ rhyme wasn’t even a rhyme. Pun used to play around and say [that tongue twister], just like he used to walk around going, ‘Packin’ the Mac in the back of the Ac, packin’ the Mac in the back of the Ac.’ These were like jokes to him…I had to argue with him to put ‘Dead in the middle of Little Italy’…in the song. I was like, ‘That’s the hardest shit on earth.’ He was like, ‘Are you crazy? That’s a fuckin’ joke. Niggas will laugh at me. Are you serious?’ Then he did it, and it was the illest shit.”

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.17884/title.fat-joe-speaks-on-writing-twinz-deep-cover-98-with-big-pun
 
Fat Joe: “I knew I had to do a song with Pun on his album. I also knew the world was bigger than New York, so we had to do a track that I knew they would play on the West Coast. When Snoop first came out, and him and Dr. Dre did that ‘Deep Cover,’ that was the hardest shit. And nobody had fucked with it.

“So I said, ‘Yo Pun, let’s go back and forth on this bitch so I can introduce you to the game.’ So we sat down and wrote it. Back and forth, we’re going in. Hard. We wrote it together.


THE ‘DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF LITTLE ITALY’ RHYME WASN’T EVEN A RHYME. PUN USED TO PLAY AROUND AND SAY [THAT TONGUE TWISTER], JUST LIKE HE USED TO WALK AROUND GOING, ‘PACKIN’ THE MAC IN THE BACK OF THE AC, PACKIN’ THE MAC IN THE BACK OF THE AC.’ THESE WERE LIKE JOKES TO HIM.​


“I ain’t bug out when he first said the ‘Dead in the middle of Little Italy...’ rhyme. That wasn’t even a rhyme. He used to play around and say [that tongue twister], just like he used to walk around going, ‘Packin’ the Mac in the back of the Ac, packin’ the Mac in the back of the Ac.’ These were like jokes to him.

“I had to argue with him to put ‘Dead in the middle of Little Italy...’ in the song. I was like, ‘That’s the hardest shit on earth.’ He was like, ‘Are you crazy? That’s a fuckin’ joke. Niggas will laugh at me. Are you serious?’ Then he did it, and it was the illest shit.

“Snoop gave us his blessing and came and did the ‘Deep Cover’ video. And no disrespect, no one can ever say anything about that song. That shit is a body. Get the white sheets out. There’s no way around it. That’s a historic track. Legendary forever.”

http://www.complex.com/music/2011/1...gs/big-pun-f-fat-joe-twinz-deep-cover-98-1998
 
Khaled continues about his rich history with T.S. He believes a conversation he had with Fat Joe lead to“Twinz (Deep Cover 98)” appearing on Pun’s Capital Punishment debut. “I remember when Joe played me ‘Twinz’ in a Lexus, in Miami. He played it for me, like, ‘Yo, this is gonna be on a mixtape or somethin’.’ I said, ‘Huh?! This record right here is the record!’ Joe and Pun performed it at my birthday party before Pun was Pun; I got footage of that.” Outside of Joe, Khaled would maintain his own ties to the late Bronx, New York lyricist. “I gotta find this DAT…Big Pun, I went to his house in the Bronx, and he freestyled over‘Victory’ [by Puff Daddy & The Family] for like an hour. While he was freestylin’ for an hour, he fell asleep.” Asked if he interrupted the Loud Records star’s sleep, he answers, “I just waited ’til he woke up; that’s my brother!” Of another hit, the DJ says, “I was there when he was creatin’ ‘Still Not A Player’.…[Fat] Joe walked in and gave him a car and big check that day. I remember these moments; they’re inspiring to me. I’m Hip-Hop, bro!”

 
Dead in the middle of Little Italy, little did we know​
That we riddled two middlemen who didn't do diddly​

one of the greatest lines in the history of modern hip hop...

but shouldn't the engineer and producer get SOME credit?

Cause that little SLIGHT echo when he actually says the line is what REALLY highlighted it and made it iconic...
 
there has to be MORE to the story of how Joe actually was able to get permission to use this beat over AND get Snoop in the video.
 
playahaitian said:
there has to be MORE to the story of how Joe actually was able to get permission to use this beat over AND get Snoop in the video.
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they asked... as far as I know there was no beef between TS and Death Row.
Death Row / Dre got checks to clear it... neva saw Snoop hate on anyone's hustle especially a lyricist like Pun.

Now if Biggie n Mob Deep came for that beat - I could see it being difficult
 
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ViCiouS said:
they asked... as far as I know there was no beef between TS and Death Row.
Death Row / Dre got checks to clear it... neva saw Snoop hate on anyone's hustle especially a lyricist like Pun.

Now if Biggie n Mob Deep came for that beat - I could see it being difficult
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there was never A east coast west coast beef.
 


On the 11th episode of Season 2, Joe Budden and co-hosts Remy Ma, Jinx & Eboni K. Williams sound off on the following topics: Kobe Bryant's Legacy (6:42), Wendy Williams (34:19), Community heroes (39:20), Oscar's diversity (40:45), Janet Jackson (50:40), Lil Wayne's album 'Funeral' (54: 12), Drake (56:32), Quentin Miller (59:58), Lil Pump retiring (1:04:37), Jussie Smollett being indicted (1:05:11), Who Said That? (1:10:51), 20 Years Since Big Pun's Passing (1:21:00).​
 

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