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Patton Oswalt Has Some Pretty Awesome Wesley Snipes Stories From ‘Blade: Trinity’
Patton Oswalt Has Some Pretty Awesome Wesley Snipes Stories From 'Blade: Trinity'


Nov 19, 2012 11:42 am




The AV Club’s Random Roles feature is always a good read, but leave it Patton Oswalt to serve up one of the best anecdotes about shooting a movie in recent memory. Nearly a decade ago, the actor found himself with a role in “Blade: Trinity” and the franchise star Wesley Snipes was in rare form. Not only does Oswalt confirm that Snipes pulled a Daniel Day-Lewis and was in character for the entire shoot — “When I met him I was like, ‘Hi!’ And he was like, ‘I’m Blade.’ — he also apparently tried to choke out director David Goyer, smoked a ton of weed and…well, just read on:

Oh, Christ. That was the third Blade movie. And there’s a scene where Blade goes in and confronts this guy for harvesting humans. That scene was supposed to be the whole basis of the film. Blade is fighting for the last shred of humanity. But they thought that it was just so fucking grim, so they decided to just have Blade fighting Dracula. It was just one of those; it was a very troubled production. Wesley [Snipes] was just fucking crazy in a hilarious way. He wouldn’t come out of his trailer, and he would smoke weed all day. Which is fine with me, because I had all these DVDs that I wanted to catch up on. We were in Vancouver, and it was always raining. I kept the door to my trailer open to smell the evening rain while I was watching a movie. Then I remember one day on the set—they let everyone pick their own clothes—there was one black actor who was also kind of a club kid. And he wore this shirt with the word “Garbage” on it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt. And Wesley came down to the set, which he only did for close-ups. Everything else was done by his stand-in. I only did one scene with him. But he comes on and goes, “There’s only one other black guy in the movie, and you make him wear a shirt that says ‘Garbage?’ You racist motherfucker!”



Commentary Tracks Of The Damned feature from the movie as well, which is equally rad.
 
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Blade: Trinity

Zack Handlen

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Crimes:


  • Wasting the goodwill earned by the previous two Blade films on a muddled, poorly shot, tediously scripted mess
  • Taking nearly two hours to never get to a point
  • Using Dracula, the biggest vampire cliché in a genre full of really big clichés, as the main villain, and giving him lines like “Blade, ready to die?”
  • Replacing You’ve Got Mail as the low point in Parker Posey’s cinematic career
Defenders: Writer-director David S. Goyer, actors Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel

Tone of commentary: Enthusiastically obtuse. Goyer repeatedly talks about how filming Blade: Trinity was “the most fun I ever had on a movie,” and Biel and Reynolds express similar sentiments. Both actors underwent a lot of training in preparation for their roles as vampire killers. Biel: “It was hardcore. We were in the gym two, two and a half hours every day.” Goyer adds, “I remember seeing you guys constantly nibble on chicken breasts and energy bars.” It paid off, too. Biel brags, in a line sure to give stunt coordinators everywhere pause, “We barely used [stunt doubles] at all.”



Goyer and Reynolds talk about how Goyer encouraged improvisation on the set. Reynolds: “As a writer-director, I was hugely surprised you were open to that.” And Goyer describes how “With each actor, you have to figure out a different language, because every actor’s different, every actor has a process.” With Parker Posey, he’d shout out imaginary Spice Girls names (“Reticence Spice! Ambiguous Spice!”) to guide her without direct “adjustment.”

In general, Goyer liked to “get two or three good takes as scripted, and then just go off-book and improvise.” Biel is a fan of the technique: “It’s fun. It’s spontaneous. It’s a real reaction to something… that you’ve never said before, that you’ve never thought before.” Goyer reveals that he had a habit of starting and stopping filming without letting the actors know what was going on. “You also never know when you’re gonna find a gem.” This doesn’t explain why in the film, Reynolds comes off as a jackass who can’t stop talking, Biel is droningly earnest, and Wesley Snipes (as the titular character) looks half a take away from murdering everyone on set.

What went wrong: Reynolds obsessed over one line late in the film: “I called David one night like in the middle of the night, I was fully Monday-morning quarterbacking, and I was like, ‘David, I gotta re-shoot that one little chunk.’” The original take appears in the final cut. Goyer complains about a shot of Snipes landing on a car as being “uninteresting,” and his obsession over tiny details, like convincing New Line to spend money on a background clip of an obscure Esperanto-language film (the William Shatner vehicle Incubus), may have led to some forest-for-the-trees vision problems. Goyer also insisted on including an entirely extraneous scene of a human blood farm, just because he hadn’t been able to include it in the previous two films.

But the real elephant in the production was star Wesley Snipes. Goyer and the others take great pains to avoid criticizing him directly, and Goyer praises Snipes’ performance (he’s especially fond of a jail scene where a drugged Snipes growls and blinks his way through a seemingly endless series of interrogations) and his commitment to the fight sequences. But given the film’s troubled production history—Snipes sued New Line Cinema and Goyer in 2005 for financial and artistic reasons—it’s hard not to read between the lines. In one shot, Goyer says, Snipes was scripted to be meditating, but he “wanted to be hanging upside down like a bat. We filmed it. I think it’s on the outtakes; it looks absolutely ridiculous.” In general, Snipes just didn’t seem to get along with people. Goyer, when talking about a combative conversation on screen, says, “There was a lot of tension between the characters… and that spilled over a little bit onto the set.”

Comments on the cast: Apart from the ambiguity about Snipes, everybody loves everybody. Reynolds was delighted to have Posey (who sneers her way through her role as lead vampire Danica Talos) on set: “I loved working with Parker. She’s out of her skull, and I loved that… It’s like getting to dance with the greatest dancer of all time.” Goyer found a place in the film for character actors James Remar and John Michael Higgins, in small roles that still give both performers a chance to embarrass themselves. And everybody loves Patton Oswalt, who plays a socially challenged tech geek. Goyer says, “If I could adopt Patton Oswalt, I would adopt Patton Oswalt.”

All three are supportive of each other’s work. Reynolds tells Biel: “The crew was just blown away by your physical ability, Jess.”

Inevitable dash of pretension: Goyer considers Trinity to be the capstone of the Blade franchise, and talks about trying to work in arcs related to the earlier films. During a scene where Snipes basically tells Biel “Chin up!” after she finds all her friends dead, Goyer explains, “Blade has moved on in terms of psychology, he’s at a different place in his journey, but Abigail is sort of where Blade was in the first film… We’ve come sort of full circle.” He had high ambitions for Trinity’s themes as well: “One of the things I wanted to do with this movie was have it set in the real world, have the war spill over into the civilian world.” (If anybody can find examples of the real world in this movie, please let us know.)

Goyer references the movies that inspired him. During a scene where Posey repeatedly slaps Reynolds, Goyer explains, “I got this idea from that moment in Chinatown where Faye Dunaway is slapping her niece. Right? Isn’t it Faye Dunaway slapping her niece, saying ‘She’s my mother, she’s my sister. She’s my sister and my mother’? I love that.” (The scene Goyer describes is actually Jack Nicholson slapping Dunaway, who says, “She’s my sister! She’s my daughter!”)

Commentary in a nutshell: Goyer: “The other thing that happened in this scene is that Blade opened his eyes, and on the day, Wesley did not open his eyes.”
 
Blade: Trinity(2004)—“Hedges”
PO:
Oh, Christ. That was the third Blade movie. And there’s a scene where Blade goes in and confronts this guy for harvesting humans. That scene was supposed to be the whole basis of the film. Blade is fighting for the last shred of humanity. But they thought that it was just so fucking grim, so they decided to just have Blade fighting Dracula. It was just one of those; it was a very troubled production. Wesley [Snipes] was just fucking crazy in a hilarious way. He wouldn’t come out of his trailer, and he would smoke weed all day. Which is fine with me, because I had all these DVDs that I wanted to catch up on. We were in Vancouver, and it was always raining. I kept the door to my trailer open to smell the evening rain while I was watching a movie. Then I remember one day on the set—they let everyone pick their own clothes—there was one black actor who was also kind of a club kid. And he wore this shirt with the word “Garbage” on it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt. And Wesley came down to the set, which he only did for close-ups. Everything else was done by his stand-in. I only did one scene with him. But he comes on and goes, “There’s only one other black guy in the movie, and you make him wear a shirt that says ‘Garbage?’ You racist motherfucker!”

And he tried to strangle the director, David Goyer. So later that night, Ron Perlman was in the city. Everyone who makes movies in Vancouver stays in the same hotel. It’s like an episode of The Love Boat. Every time the elevator stops, you’ve got a different celebrity getting on. Like, [announcer voice] “Hey, now we’ve got Danny Glover!” So we went out that night to some strip club, and we were all drinking. And there were a bunch of bikers there, so David says to them, “I’ll pay for all your drinks if you show up to set tomorrow and pretend to be my security.” Wesley freaked out and went back to his trailer. [Laughs.] And the next day, Wesley sat down with David and was like, “I think you need to quit. You’re detrimental to this movie.” And David was like, “Why don’t you quit? We’ve got all your close-ups, and we could shoot the rest with your stand-in.” And that freaked Wesley out so much that, for the rest of the production, he would only communicate with the director through Post-it notes. And he would sign each Post-it note “From Blade.” [Laughs.]

AVC: There’s a rumor that he tried to stay in character the entire shoot.

PO: Oh yeah, he did. When I met him I was like, “Hi!” And he was like, “I’m Blade.” And also, Natasha Lyonne was on that set, and she was going through some kind of mental breakdown. Wesley is all boundaries, and she has no boundaries. She played a blind computer expert. So the first scene they had together, she put her hand right on his face, and he just recoiled. It was awesome.

AVC: If you were trying to be in character all the time as a vampire killer, being high all the time might not help.

PO: A lot of the lines that Ryan Reynolds has were just a result of Wesley not being there. We would all just think of things for him to say and then cut to Wesley’s face not doing anything because that’s all we could get from him. It was kind of funny. We were like, “What are the worst jokes and puns that we can say to this guy?” And then it would just be his face going, “Mmm.” “Smiles are contagious.” It’s so, so dumb. [Laughs.] That was an example of a very troubled shoot that we made fun. You have to find a way to make it fun.

AVC: In a weird sort of way, it sounds like Wesley Snipes united the production against himself. Everyone had a common enemy.

PO: Everyone was just like, “This is going to be such a great story.” I’m in this business for two reasons: the money and the anecdotes. That’s all I want. I either want to do the best films or the fucking worst films. I don’t want to do the “eh” film.

AVC: Well, the second Blade movie is great.

PO: Yeah, the first Blade is fucking genius. That, more than anything, is what really put forth the idea of vampires as exclusive, high-tier night-clubbers who are young and beautiful forever. They took that idea done clumsily in Lost Boys and really made it amazing.

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Patton Oswalt Gets Brutally Honest About The Failures Of ‘Blade: Trinity’
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When the first Blade movie hit theater screens in August of 1998 it became a surprise smash hit and accomplished several noteworthy goals: it gave Wesley Snipes an iconic movie hero in the mold of Rambo and John McClane to call his own, spawned one of New Line Cinema’s most lucrative franchises since the heyday of Freddy Krueger and the Ninja Turtles, and it proved that Marvel Comics characters could successfully headline their own motion picture adventures, thus paving the way for Spider-Man, the X-Men, and the Avengers to rule the box office in the years that followed. It took four years for a sequel to come together but with Guillermo Del Toro at the helm, Blade II surpassed the original in every way and became one of the best comic book movie sequels of all. The rapturous reception from moviegoers and critics that greeted Blade II helped revive Del Toro’s American directing career.

Expectations were high for a third Blade movie; at one point German filmmaker Oliver Hirschbiegel (Downfall) was rumored to take the reins for a post-apocalyptic sequel that would have had Snipes’ monosyllabic vampire hunter continue his neverending battle in a world dominated by the bloodthirsty undead. Instead David S. Goyer, the screenwriter who was instrumental in bringing Blade to the big screen, signed on to write and direct the movie that would be released in December 2004 as Blade: Trinity. The end result has since been deemed by many to be one of the worse comic book movies ever made, if not the absolute worse. Make no mistake friends, if you’ve never seen the movie you’re not missing anything at all. It’s atrocious. In the annals of superhero it ranks with the likes of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace and Elektra. Blade: Trinity makes other maligned third chapters of comic book movie franchises like X-Men: The Last Stand and Spider-Man 3 look like masterpieces in comparison.


Much has been written since Blade: Trinity crawled out of theaters on its belly shortly after it made its premiere of the battles behind the scenes between Snipes and Goyer that far surpassed any and all of the movie’s many carnage-packed showdowns between Blade and his bloodsucking archenemies. One person who was there for nearly every dark second was actor, writer, and stand-up comedian Patton Oswalt. In a recent career-spanning interview with the A.V. Club, Oswalt, who had a small supporting role as a tech geek supplying Blade with some killer weaponry that barely gets used, talked extensively and candidly about the problems that plagued the movie’s production from the very beginning. Not surprisingly, executives at New Line Cinema took issue with the tone Goyer wanted to establish for Blade: Trinity:

There’s a scene where Blade goes in and confronts this guy for harvesting humans. That scene was supposed to be the whole basis of the film. Blade is fighting for the last shred of humanity. But they thought that it was just so fucking grim, so they decided to just have Blade fighting Dracula. It was just one of those; it was a very troubled production.
Oswalt learned soon after joining the production that due to his unorthodox acting methods the star playing the movie’s titular hero was less than approachable when the cameras weren’t rolling:

When I met him I was like, “Hi!” And he was like, “I’m Blade.” And also, Natasha Lyonne was on that set, and she was going through some kind of mental breakdown. Wesley is all boundaries, and she has no boundaries. She played a blind computer expert. So the first scene they had together, she put her hand right on his face, and he just recoiled. It was awesome.
According to Oswalt, Snipes dealt with his increasing lack of interest in the movie by turning to copious amounts of marijuana and sometimes his own insecurity would lead to tense showdowns with the besieged Goyer:

Wesley [Snipes] was just fucking crazy in a hilarious way. He wouldn’t come out of his trailer, and he would smoke weed all day. Which is fine with me, because I had all these DVDs that I wanted to catch up on. We were in Vancouver, and it was always raining. I kept the door to my trailer open to smell the evening rain while I was watching a movie. Then I remember one day on the set—they let everyone pick their own clothes—there was one black actor who was also kind of a club kid. And he wore this shirt with the word “Garbage” on it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt. And Wesley came down to the set, which he only did for close-ups. Everything else was done by his stand-in. I only did one scene with him. But he comes on and goes, “There’s only one other black guy in the movie, and you make him wear a shirt that says ‘Garbage?’ You racist motherfucker!” And he tried to strangle the director, David Goyer.
The slow deterioration of Snipes and Goyer’s professional relationship ultimately led to the director taking matters into his hands to deal with his temperamental lead actor in ways both humorous and dead serious, much like the tone of the Blade series:

So we went out that night to some strip club, and we were all drinking. And there were a bunch of bikers there, so David says to them, “I’ll pay for all your drinks if you show up to set tomorrow and pretend to be my security.” Wesley freaked out and went back to his trailer. [Laughs.] And the next day, Wesley sat down with David and was like, “I think you need to quit. You’re detrimental to this movie.” And David was like, “Why don’t you quit? We’ve got all your close-ups, and we could shoot the rest with your stand-in.” And that freaked Wesley out so much that, for the rest of the production, he would only communicate with the director through Post-it notes. And he would sign each Post-it note “From Blade.”
One of the problems Snipes had with the movie that he was not shy about voicing was the shifting of the narrative focus from Blade’s battle against the vampire hordes and their chosen leader Dracula (played by thick-necked Australian actor Dominic Purcell) to setting up a spin-off franchise based around the Nightstalkers, younger vampire slayers played by Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel who ended up taking away a chunk of Snipes’ screen time. As a result, the action hero would only show up for filming when absolutely necessary. Oswalt and the other actors found humorous ways to liven up the dour proceedings:

A lot of the lines that Ryan Reynolds has were just a result of Wesley not being there. We would all just think of things for him to say and then cut to Wesley’s face not doing anything because that’s all we could get from him. It was kind of funny. We were like, “What are the worst jokes and puns that we can say to this guy?” And then it would just be his face going, “Mmm.” “Smiles are contagious.” It’s so, so dumb. [Laughs.] That was an example of a very troubled shoot that we made fun. You have to find a way to make it fun.
Well I’m glad they had fun, but after one viewing of Blade: Trinity I was left wishing I had some of that primo shit Snipes was smoking in his trailer to relieve my psychic misery. Live and learn.
 
Then I remember one day on the set—they let everyone pick their own clothes—there was one black actor who was also kind of a club kid. And he wore this shirt with the word “Garbage” on it in big stylish letters. It was his shirt. And Wesley came down to the set, which he only did for close-ups. Everything else was done by his stand-in. I only did one scene with him. But he comes on and goes, “There’s only one other black guy in the movie, and you make him wear a shirt that says ‘Garbage?’ You racist motherfucker!”
:lol::lol::lol:
 
@ViCiouS @fonzerrillii @largebillsonlyplease

I still don;t believe stories like this are reason enough to keep Snipes out of the reboot
I do.. Because he wouldnt eat shit. He saw them taking a $100 million franchise about a black anti hero and making it a campy laugh fest with over acting cacs who turned him into a feature in his own got dam movie.

I despise Ryan Reynolds to this day.


Snipes>>>>>
 
No matter who they run in to play the part, in most peoples minds Blade will always be Wesley Snipes; just like Shaft will always be Richard Roundtree, Rocky and Rambo will always be Sly Stallone, James Bond will always be Sean Connery and Malcolm X will always be Denzel. Sometimes the original cannot be adequately replaced. :hmm:
 
No matter who they run in to play the part, in most peoples minds Blade will always be Wesley Snipes; just like Shaft will always be Richard Roundtree, Rocky and Rambo will always be Sly Stallone, James Bond will always be Sean Connery and Malcolm X will always be Denzel. Sometimes the original cannot be adequately replaced. :hmm:
Bottom line

The new Blade will have to live up to the old one
 
What i don't get is after reading all that?

Especially about Goyer?

How is SNIPES the one who is permanently labelled a "problem"?
Goyer is a hack - that keeps getting hired
hasn't had a good script in 20 years -
sure he got a credit for Dark Knight but anyone that has seen Person of Interest or Westworld or Prestige or Inception etc
vs The DCEU movies
can see that Jon and Chris Nolan wrote that movie w/o Goyer's input

but Goyer keeps getting hired

Ryan Reynolds is Hollywood's best example of a welfare movie star - but on the set of Trinity all those white actors and the director laughing at Snipes being rightfully angry that they were all snuffing out a successful and growing franchise to feature 2 cacs

If you really pay attention -Zachs story is really a complete outline of what racism is as a system
 
I do.. Because he wouldnt eat shit. He saw them taking a $100 million franchise about a black anti hero and making it a campy laugh fest with over acting cacs who turned him into a feature in his own got dam movie.

I despise Ryan Reynolds to this day.


Snipes>>>>>

That number is probably closer half a billion with inflation......

Triple H who is in the carny industry of wrestling said way back on a podcast that some of the stuff he witnessed on that movie set was pretty intense. Wesley was trolling his ass off

:lol::lol::lol:
 
all though i am pretty sure patton killed his wife

i still kinda like the guy

but it is interesting how in the middle off all the evidence (you know like their presence and having been hired in the first place)

that the cacs were tryna take his franchise away from him

all the cacs interviewed STILL try to paint mr snipes as crazy

:cool:
 
Nothing is a perfect example of gentrification like the third blade movie. You basically had a bunch of white people move into the neighborhood and ruin it for everybody from that point forward.
 

 
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