Morality versus Sexuality

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Hello BGOL & SOL,

Been having issues as of late, where I react to those based on my morals. Just tonight a female asked me to come over to her crib, its 145 est. She is a good female who I Think deserves to be treated nice, so I declined my offer. I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her.
This is the 2nd time she asked me to come over, I couldnt come over cause I already had obligations.
Now shes pissed and saying the classic bullshit words" it is what it is"


My morals are elimenating every aspect of my sexuality.

2nd scenario today, a chick I been messing with for almost a year who I havent had sex with yet. She gets pissed off at me when I ask her a question she has asked before, when the last time you fucked. She tells me keep asking and your feelings gonna get hurt. SO I keep asking, I tell her keep it 100 with a nigga and she brings old shit up like finding a used magnum in my backseat which was about 4 months ago. before the magnum she told me she fucked a dude. BUt today I just let her know if she fucked a dude recently, then she cut off. I caught her in some other bullshit as well, that got her mad quiet.

Maybe Im wrong on both counts, but I feel I need to know certain shit before I do anything. I feel that theres a time and place, and that being respectful is best. But being Moral seems to screw me over everytime.

What you think?
 
I think it's good that your standards/morals are high. . . it's a rare quality.

It sounds to me like you assume that everyone has the same moral standards as you. For example with the first woman you mentioned, she may deserve more, but does she want more? There is a difference.

With the second situation . . . I'm not really sure why there is an issue. It sounds like the two of you are just friends, so why the questioning?
You aren't involved sexually or on a romantic level. . . and you probably won't ever get there if you've known her for year and absolutely nothing has happened between you two (assuming normal circumstances. . i.e. living in the same area, etc.)

If you are asking should you throw your standards out the window because of these two experiences. . I say no.
 
Hello BGOL & SOL,

Been having issues as of late, where I react to those based on my morals. Just tonight a female asked me to come over to her crib, its 145 est. She is a good female who I Think deserves to be treated nice, so I declined my offer. I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her.
This is the 2nd time she asked me to come over, I couldnt come over cause I already had obligations.
Now shes pissed and saying the classic bullshit words" it is what it is"


My morals are elimenating every aspect of my sexuality.

2nd scenario today, a chick I been messing with for almost a year who I havent had sex with yet. She gets pissed off at me when I ask her a question she has asked before, when the last time you fucked. She tells me keep asking and your feelings gonna get hurt. SO I keep asking, I tell her keep it 100 with a nigga and she brings old shit up like finding a used magnum in my backseat which was about 4 months ago. before the magnum she told me she fucked a dude. BUt today I just let her know if she fucked a dude recently, then she cut off. I caught her in some other bullshit as well, that got her mad quiet.

Maybe Im wrong on both counts, but I feel I need to know certain shit before I do anything. I feel that theres a time and place, and that being respectful is best. But being Moral seems to screw me over everytime.

What you think?

nigga you must be a virgo.....

Thats some virgo shit you just posted....

*for the record, my gf is a virgo....*
 
I think he's trying to say that when he takes the moral high road he's screwed.. and when he acts based on his sexuality he is still screwed.. basically a catch 22 . . .
 
I think he's trying to say that when he takes the moral high road he's screwed.. and when he acts based on his sexuality he is still screwed.. basically a catch 22 . . .

no its not.

If you're single, then have some damn fun, then, pray about it another day.

Sometimes you just have to be a man.
 
Hello BGOL & SOL,

Been having issues as of late, where I react to those based on my morals. Just tonight a female asked me to come over to her crib, its 145 est. She is a good female who I Think deserves to be treated nice, so I declined my offer. I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her.
This is the 2nd time she asked me to come over, I couldnt come over cause I already had obligations.
Now shes pissed and saying the classic bullshit words" it is what it is"


My morals are elimenating every aspect of my sexuality.

2nd scenario today, a chick I been messing with for almost a year who I havent had sex with yet. She gets pissed off at me when I ask her a question she has asked before, when the last time you fucked. She tells me keep asking and your feelings gonna get hurt. SO I keep asking, I tell her keep it 100 with a nigga and she brings old shit up like finding a used magnum in my backseat which was about 4 months ago. before the magnum she told me she fucked a dude. BUt today I just let her know if she fucked a dude recently, then she cut off. I caught her in some other bullshit as well, that got her mad quiet.

Maybe Im wrong on both counts, but I feel I need to know certain shit before I do anything. I feel that theres a time and place, and that being respectful is best. But being Moral seems to screw me over everytime.

What you think?

Is this an April Fools joke? :smh:

There are times even women just need to get some (same as us) with no strings attached. (She may have also wanted to take the relationship to a more serious level.) Your on your high horse with your morals with this chick who will eventually stop asking and she will find someone willing to fulfill her needs. 2 Hints: 1. Sex is a vital part of any relationship, maybe no one told you. Good females need sex too. 2. Women hate being rejected. You and your morals will be without any options except Mrs. Thumb and her girls.

Meanwhile your tripping on this other chick. Almost a year? You've already entered the dreaded friend zone. You screwed up with her when she found a used condom in your car. That on any level is unforgivable.

Wrong on both counts? ABSOLUTELY! Morals are one thing common sense is an entirely different matter. Nothing wrong with having morals and standards. But in time you will learn in any successful relationship there has to be compromises by both partners.
 
nigga you must be a virgo.....

Thats some virgo shit you just posted....

*for the record, my gf is a virgo....*

:lol: ... basically.

Morals? In the context of what exactly? :confused:

Those two stories with incongruous as fuck.

Like dude said, this has got to be an April fool's joke.

If not ... :smh: and/or punk ass and/or ghei and/or Ef Tee Pee
 
Look at how many times, we as women, get screwed on the "moral" issue. But if we think like men, we're whores. Where do you draw the line? I agree, have some fun, life is too short for b******t.
 
Look at how many times, we as women, get screwed on the "moral" issue. But if we think like men, we're whores. Where do you draw the line? I agree, have some fun, life is too short for b******t.

All men don't look upon women with healthy sexual appetites as whores. At least I don't. :D
 
Well I took the sexual route on the first girl I mentioned, looked at tv for about 5 minutes and did what I told her I was gonna do, do I agree with what I did, not really.

The 2nd female... its a bit unclear, cuz I have feelings for her. But at the same time I hate her, If I fuck her it will just be out of pure hatred and animosity. But Im thinking thats the resolve I need.

yeah Im a virgo, and morality plays a big role in my final disposition, being raised in a christian home doesnt help either
 
Well I took the sexual route on the first girl I mentioned, looked at tv for about 5 minutes and did what I told her I was gonna do, do I agree with what I did, not really.

The 2nd female... its a bit unclear, cuz I have feelings for her. But at the same time I hate her, If I fuck her it will just be out of pure hatred and animosity. But Im thinking thats the resolve I need.

yeah Im a virgo, and morality plays a big role in my final disposition, being raised in a christian home doesnt help either

Maybe its me but you seem to be loaded with contradictions. You say you come from a christian home but its apparent you don't live a christian lifestyle. I say this because of this statement, "I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her." That is hardly christian like. :smh:

Then you go on to say "I have feelings for her. But at the same time I hate her, If I fuck her it will just be out of pure hatred and animosity." Referring to the 2nd girl. Again this is hardly christian like." :smh:

So the question is are you a true christian or just a christian to save face amongst your family members or peers? I think your living a lie. Be honest with yourself. :hmm:

BTW I'm not deeply religious so don't think I'm preaching. I could care less.
 
Maybe its me but you seem to be loaded with contradictions. You say you come from a christian home but its apparent you don't live a christian lifestyle. I say this because of this statement, "I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her." That is hardly christian like. :smh:

Then you go on to say "I have feelings for her. But at the same time I hate her, If I fuck her it will just be out of pure hatred and animosity." Referring to the 2nd girl. Again this is hardly christian like." :smh:

So the question is are you a true christian or just a christian to save face amongst your family members or peers? I think your living a lie. Be honest with yourself. :hmm:

BTW I'm not deeply religious so don't think I'm preaching. I could care less.


I agree with you for the most part but the guy is keeping it real. it's late girl invites you over he told her the truth if he goes then shell get the daggarin' so he stayed his ass home.
 
I agree with you for the most part but the guy is keeping it real. it's late girl invites you over he told her the truth if he goes then shell get the daggarin' so he stayed his ass home.

He's not keeping a damn thing real. If he was as religious as he's trying to make everybody believe that trip to her place never would have happened. He's living a lie like most religious zealots.

OK lets make this simple for everyone. :rolleyes: He got a "BOOTY CALL!" Call it what it is she called him, he showed up. She got what she wanted and so did he...duh! Now he wants to act like he made a big mistake and he's filled with remorse. BULLSHIT!
 
Im happy u have standards which makes me believe that ur a good dude. I wouldnt worry bout it cause you'll meet a female (like me) who respects that and will take the time to get to know you
 
He's not keeping a damn thing real. If he was as religious as he's trying to make everybody believe that trip to her place never would have happened. He's living a lie like most religious zealots.

OK lets make this simple for everyone. :rolleyes: He got a "BOOTY CALL!" Call it what it is she called him, he showed up. She got what she wanted and so did he...duh! Now he wants to act like he made a big mistake and he's filled with remorse. BULLSHIT!


I have a religious upbringing, and it does push me to say or do the complete opposite of what most people would do. Do I abide by it at all times, I'd like to think so. But I know every action I take there is a ripple effect which will cause a reaction, whether instantly or eventually.

Any type of religion is a path. Those who partake on that path will go through tests which they can easily pass or miserably fail at. Each person has strong points and weak points, and religion( like an instruction booklet) is a guide which helps you on your weak points, some people do not like guides and prefer trial and error.

SEX is a catch 22 with me. Fantastic sex with a female I hardly know creates problems. With holding sex from a female I know & care for creates problems. So considering how other people around feel about sex, I feel pushed and or let down. Sex in itself changes the dynamic of any relationship.

I feel its fucked up that the 1st female I mentioned had a fucking attitude cause I wanted to respect and do the right thing. Yet when I get there she is happy and ready, wtf? How primative. This conveys to my morality and "christian" outlook that this world is utterly screwed, because majority of people think this way.

Thats the main delimma.
 
I have a religious upbringing, and it does push me to say or do the complete opposite of what most people would do. Do I abide by it at all times, I'd like to think so. But I know every action I take there is a ripple effect which will cause a reaction, whether instantly or eventually.

Any type of religion is a path. Those who partake on that path will go through tests which they can easily pass or miserably fail at. Each person has strong points and weak points, and religion( like an instruction booklet) is a guide which helps you on your weak points, some people do not like guides and prefer trial and error.

SEX is a catch 22 with me. Fantastic sex with a female I hardly know creates problems. With holding sex from a female I know & care for creates problems. So considering how other people around feel about sex, I feel pushed and or let down. Sex in itself changes the dynamic of any relationship.

I feel its fucked up that the 1st female I mentioned had a fucking attitude cause I wanted to respect and do the right thing. Yet when I get there she is happy and ready, wtf? How primative. This conveys to my morality and "christian" outlook that this world is utterly screwed, because majority of people think this way.

Thats the main delimma.

Religion aside relationships are a necessary part of becoming whole. I don't believe in the philosophy of saving yourself for marriage. Imagine saying I do and then finding out you and your mate aren't sexually incompatible. Would you buy shoes without trying them on? Of course not. The same goes for relationships.

There is nothing wrong with having standards and living by them. We all have and need standards. But standards shouldn't get in the way of you meeting women and spending quality time with them. It's a natural progression. To you sex may seem like a dilemma but sex is a major component to the foundation of relationships. It's the tie that binds us. Good luck. :yes:
 
Well I took the sexual route on the first girl I mentioned, looked at tv for about 5 minutes and did what I told her I was gonna do, do I agree with what I did, not really.

The 2nd female... its a bit unclear, cuz I have feelings for her. But at the same time I hate her, If I fuck her it will just be out of pure hatred and animosity. But Im thinking thats the resolve I need.

yeah Im a virgo, and morality plays a big role in my final disposition, being raised in a christian home doesnt help either

well.....I know em when I hear em...
 
Religion aside relationships are a necessary part of becoming whole. I don't believe in the philosophy of saving yourself for marriage. Imagine saying I do and then finding out you and your mate aren't sexually incompatible. Would you buy shoes without trying them on? Of course not. The same goes for relationships.

There is nothing wrong with having standards and living by them. We all have and need standards. But standards shouldn't get in the way of you meeting women and spending quality time with them. It's a natural progression. To you sex may seem like a dilemma but sex is a major component to the foundation of relationships. It's the tie that binds us. Good luck. :yes:

I agree that sex is a tie that binds, but you missed a key point. If your two virgins and married because you were happy, if you two engage in sex, how do you know your incompatible sexually. Sex is suppose to be an moment two people share who actually love one another. Therefore your suppose to learn each other and break new grounds, cause your learning each other own a different level.

But when you break it down to what was stated by you, any female your attracted to is like a pair of shoes. Its a nice way to look at it, but in the end... well you already know what Imma say;)
 
I agree that sex is a tie that binds, but you missed a key point. If your two virgins and married because you were happy, if you two engage in sex, how do you know your incompatible sexually. Sex is suppose to be an moment two people share who actually love one another. Therefore your suppose to learn each other and break new grounds, cause your learning each other own a different level.

But when you break it down to what was stated by you, any female your attracted to is like a pair of shoes. Its a nice way to look at it, but in the end... well you already know what Imma say;)

Your approach is not realistic by today's standards. You don't buy a car without test driving it and you don't buy shoes you haven't tried on. What I'm saying is you don't say "I do" to someone who you have never had sex with. It doesn't make any sense. Not with the laws of present day America. It will cost you dearly. This is not a matter of the heart, today's society has dictated a change in the rules.

Can you have total happiness with someone who fails to satisfy you sexually? NO! That is my point. You will seek out someone who can make you cum. There exist as many factors that would make sex a failure as there are factors that would sex great. If you don't believe me ask the women on this board. Sex binds the relationship only if its rewarding to both people.

To paraphrase "your living in a dream world." The scenario your looking for no longer exist. It may have existed 100+ years ago but not today. Women today don't marry for love they marry for security.

You can't look upon every woman as a potential sex partner. The truth is women make that decision for us we don't. Chris Rock didn't lie when he said a woman knows if she's going to have sex with a man minutes after she meets him. We really don't know.
 
Just tonight a female asked me to come over to her crib, its 145 est. She is a good female who I Think deserves to be treated nice, so I declined my offer. I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her.
This is the 2nd time she asked me to come over, I couldnt come over cause I already had obligations.
Now shes pissed and saying the classic bullshit words" it is what it is"
Here is where I think you (and other men) veer the wrong way. You can have sex with a woman and not treat her poorly. You can continue to treat her nicely AFTER you have sex. We have needs too and if a woman is feeling you enough to initiate sex you should thank the heavens and get too it. ESPECIALLY if you're feeling her.

My morals are elimenating every aspect of my sexuality.
People been having sex since the beginning of humanity. Morals came into play afterwards...
2nd scenario today, a chick I been messing with for almost a year who I havent had sex with yet. She gets pissed off at me when I ask her a question she has asked before, when the last time you fucked. She tells me keep asking and your feelings gonna get hurt. SO I keep asking, I tell her keep it 100 with a nigga and she brings old shit up like finding a used magnum in my backseat which was about 4 months ago. before the magnum she told me she fucked a dude. BUt today I just let her know if she fucked a dude recently, then she cut off. I caught her in some other bullshit as well, that got her mad quiet.
So..... who ARE you having sex with if it's not these 2 ladies? I know you're not sitting around with blue balls :hmm:
 
Hello BGOL & SOL,

Been having issues as of late, where I react to those based on my morals. Just tonight a female asked me to come over to her crib, its 145 est. She is a good female who I Think deserves to be treated nice, so I declined my offer. I let it be known to her that If I came over there, I would just be coming to fuck her.
This is the 2nd time she asked me to come over, I couldnt come over cause I already had obligations.
Now shes pissed and saying the classic bullshit words" it is what it is"


My morals are elimenating every aspect of my sexuality.

2nd scenario today, a chick I been messing with for almost a year who I havent had sex with yet. She gets pissed off at me when I ask her a question she has asked before, when the last time you fucked. She tells me keep asking and your feelings gonna get hurt. SO I keep asking, I tell her keep it 100 with a nigga and she brings old shit up like finding a used magnum in my backseat which was about 4 months ago. before the magnum she told me she fucked a dude. BUt today I just let her know if she fucked a dude recently, then she cut off. I caught her in some other bullshit as well, that got her mad quiet.

Maybe Im wrong on both counts, but I feel I need to know certain shit before I do anything. I feel that theres a time and place, and that being respectful is best. But being Moral seems to screw me over everytime.

What you think?

...what is moral in what you are saying?....will I fuck her now...or will I fuck her later?...is it the timing that makes your thought moral?.....I thought it was the fucking that was imoral....
 
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