Lmao I was actually listening live that day...the first part of the interview thats not in the clip was Crazy!! it was about half an hour earlier and he was defensive as soon as he came on, Karen was giving him an out to just laugh it off and explain but he kept on 'splaining ' coming up with excuses and lamenting about how his legacy is being reduced to this interaction...just doing too much, no humility no sense of humor and couldn't move on to other topics...at one point he just kept on talking by himself for like 3 minutes straight and Professor Hunter was just looking at him lmao she just had to stop engaging and cut the interview short and then he called BACK to defend himself again just saying the same shit...smh