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Fact Check: Is Zelensky Refusing to Hold Ukraine Election Unless U.S. Pays?​

By Tom Norton On 8/29/23 at 9:50 AM EDT
The war in Ukraine has disrupted the country's flow of government, no more noticeable than the question of elections, recently highlighted during a television interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

During the interview, Zelensky, who was elected in 2019, said he told U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham that an election would cost about $135 million.

However, the details of the conversation were criticized by some who suggested the comments were indicative of "election interference" and a demand that would hit the pockets of U.S. taxpayers.

Volodymyr Zelensky
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky during an event dedicated to Ukraine's Independence Day on August 24, 2023, in Kyiv, Ukraine. Zelensky was recently quoted saying that U.S. support was necessary for Ukraine to carry out elections.Yan Dobronosov/Global Images Ukraine via Getty Images
The Claim

A post on X, formerly Twitter, by Trending Politics' Collin Rugg, sent August 28, 2023, which has been viewed 3.3 million times, states: "Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky says he will only be holding an election next year if United States taxpayers keep sending him money."

"Zelensky & Biden: Masters of election interference," it adds

"Zelensky says he personally made the demand to none other than Republican Senator Lindsey Graham.

"'I told [Graham]: If the United States & Europe give us financial support... I'm sorry, I will not hold elections on credit, I will not take money from weapons and give it to elections either. But if you give me this financial support... then let's quickly change the legislation & most importantly, let's take risks together,' Zelensky said.

"'Observers should be in the trenches. I told him: observers must be sent to the frontline so that the elections are legitimate for us and for the whole world. And this is absolutely fair.'"

The Facts

The tweet by Rugg leaves out some important pieces of information.

The quote that Rugg referred to was from a television interview with the Ukrainian broadcaster 1+1, excerpts of which were republished by the President of Ukraine's official website on Sunday.

During the interview, Zelensky said he had told Graham that $135 million was needed to carry out the election during wartime. As Rugg mentions, the operation would require election observers to be sent to the frontline to ensure voting was fair.

Newsweek has reached out to a representative for Graham via email for comment.

Zelensky said the move would also require the electoral code to be changed for the contest to go ahead as fighting continues, adding that money could not be taken from the military budget "stipulated by law." Contributions from the U.S. supporting Ukraine in its conflict with Russia are strictly itemized and audited.

The Ukrainian president added that his government would need to "open up appropriate opportunities" so that refugees who had fled the country could also take part.

"We need every vote. We won't be able to say for ourselves that this was a very democratic election," Zelensky said during the interview.

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"We need a legitimate choice. We need this choice to be made by society. So that it does not divide our people. We need the military to be able to vote.

"They are defending this democracy today, and not giving them this opportunity because of the war is unfair. I was against the elections only because of this issue."

The plea was made to the U.S. and European Union, so it's not a direct appeal to the U.S. government alone.

While Rugg's summary of Zelensky's comment does have truth to it, taken from the Ukrainian president's own comments, it does not detail much of the task required to undertake such an election, such as the need to contact the millions of Ukrainians who are now elsewhere.

The United States has not said whether it would support the election in any case.

Ukrainian parliamentarian Yaroslav Zhelezniak announced on July 24, 2023, that martial law had been extended until November 15, 2023, supported by 347 votes.

The Ukrainian Consitution states that elections for the presidential office of Ukraine, Ukraine's parliamentary body the Verkhovna Rada, the Verkhovna Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and local self-government bodies, are prohibited under martial law.

The Ruling
 
This CAC is playing the US for every dollar he can get.

Does anyone really think Ukraine can outlast Russia?

He knows this is unwinnable but he and his corrupt pals will cash out before Ukraine crash out.

Just saying gotta respect his hustle…

Hey y’all me to keep killing my people well I’m need this and that…. Oh and don’t forget this amount also
 
This CAC is playing the US for every dollar he can get.

Does anyone really think Ukraine can outlast Russia?

He knows this is unwinnable but he and his corrupt pals will cash out before Ukraine crash out.
The alternative is to surrender so the world can watch russia kidnap children for reprogramming, rape women, and kill all the men. All of which they have done in eastern part of the Ukraine at the start of the war. so ya give them a chance to fight even if it is unwinnable
 
This CAC is playing the US for every dollar he can get.

Does anyone really think Ukraine can outlast Russia?

He knows this is unwinnable but he and his corrupt pals will cash out before Ukraine crash out.


Nah. He's playing people who don't understand world politics. The US, especially the military and CIC know exactly what they're doing - making russia show their hand vis-a-vis their weapons capabilities. Or lack thereof.

Nobody cares if he and his crew dip with a few lousy mil. The info gathered on russian weapons, strategy, and troops is priceless.
 
Nah. He's playing people who don't understand world politics. The US, especially the military and CIC know exactly what they're doing - making russia show their hand vis-a-vis their weapons capabilities. Or lack thereof.

Nobody cares if he and his crew dip with a few lousy mil. The info gathered on russian weapons, strategy, and troops is priceless.

Nobody cares but the knowledgeable taxpayers...

But nothing to see here
 
This is some serious high level money laundering, just keep the usa tax payer

amused with a dog and pony show, implement fear.. Russia the big bad bear is coming

to rape your women and program your children...

Meanwhile we have hundreds of thousands of women missing every year RIGHT HERE in good ol

USA, and they are programming our children to be sexual misfits before they enter grade school,

and we worried about some fuckin ukraine..

the international zionist banksters running game on the gullible again....

Im just sayin ukraine is the birthplace of the ashkeNAZI jew, IsNotReal aka Isreal is

the country stolen for the zionist jews,

and both are getting our tax payer dollars thrown at them...


Anybody sees a connection here....

Ukraine’s Jewish community has a rich history: here were the first shtetls, built by Jews working for Polish aristocrats in the 18th century; it is here that Hasidism had its origins; and it is here that classic Yiddish-language literature began to develop. Moreover, Ukraine has one of the largest numbers of Jewish heritage sites of any European country: some 1,500 have been identified with the true number likely running into the thousands.

The development of the Ukrainian Route of Jewish Heritage will begin in Western Ukraine, highlighting the life of Jews in the Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Zakarpattia, and Chernivsti Oblasts.


They taking money from US and giving it to THEIR PEOPLE!!!

they got our govt by the balls!!

there is only One Orange stubborn as fuck business man that KNOWS how to deal

with the business men in small hats and keep their zionist demonic agendas in check,

and it AINT joe Lieden they are doing whatever the fuck they want under his watch!!!
 
This CAC is playing the US for every dollar he can get.

Does anyone really think Ukraine can outlast Russia?

He knows this is unwinnable but he and his corrupt pals will cash out before Ukraine crash out.

Just saying gotta respect his hustle…

Hey y’all me to keep killing my people well I’m need this and that…. Oh and don’t forget this amount also
Yeah, I can always respect the hustle of folks I don't like. If they can get it, get it.

But the only reason why SOME Americans obsessed with this shit is because of years of equating Putin with the mean twitter man. Thus all the Ukkkraine flags in all the bios. It's a war on the mean twitter man by proxy. Shit would make for an interesting study. Folks weren't even thinking about Russia/Putin pre-2016.

This guy is actually cheating himself out of money. With the state of political insanity in the U.S.,, he could ask for hundreds of billions more and Americans would be cool with it. He can do no wrong. :lol:
 
Yeah, I can always respect the hustle of folks I don't like. If they can get it, get it.

But the only reason why SOME Americans obsessed with this shit is because of years of equating Putin with the mean twitter man. Thus all the Ukkkraine flags in all the bios. It's a war on the mean twitter man by proxy. Shit would make for an interesting study. Folks weren't even thinking about Russia/Putin pre-2016.

This guy is actually cheating himself out of money. With the state of political insanity in the U.S.,, he could ask for hundreds of billions more and Americans would be cool with it. He can do no wrong. :lol:

There was some thread where I posted what it would cost to end hunger, homelessness and provide universal college education in the US and it was less than what was spent in Afghanistan.

Allocation of resources is the issue.

The 50 or so billion we have designated for Ukraine defense could have done so much good here.

Let Europe police itself. Maybe the Trump administration (the people making his foreign policy decisions) was on to something reducing our role in NATO.

Oh but you can't say that around these parts.
 
What's the issue here?

He said he's not gonna take money from weapons to hold elections while the country is in an existential war for survival. What Russian trolls told you that's a bad thing?
 
What's the issue here?

He said he's not gonna take money from weapons to hold elections while the country is in an existential war for survival. What Russian trolls told you that's a bad thing?
You stupid fuck. All of them fucking racist asses in Ukraine who hate all people of color are receiving unlimited weapons to use against all minorities all over the world by nazi organizations all over the world...yet you are too fucking dumb to understand that you have been programmed to think everything Russia is bad.

Let's do a tit for tat. You outline everything Russia has done bad since its inception as a country and I will point out all the bad the US has done since its inception (1787). Please make sure you highlight all of the racist shit because what I can remember is that the Russians lost 27 million fucking people to Nazis. Thats a fact, bruh.
 
Yeah, I can always respect the hustle of folks I don't like. If they can get it, get it.

But the only reason why SOME Americans obsessed with this shit is because of years of equating Putin with the mean twitter man. Thus all the Ukkkraine flags in all the bios. It's a war on the mean twitter man by proxy. Shit would make for an interesting study. Folks weren't even thinking about Russia/Putin pre-2016.

This guy is actually cheating himself out of money. With the state of political insanity in the U.S.,, he could ask for hundreds of billions more and Americans would be cool with it. He can do no wrong. :lol:
That’s why I made that thread about Trump turning BGOL pro-white, which was really a microcosm of society in general. The obsession would be unbelievable if I didn’t witness it myself. The super liberals / pro-whites turned a tv game show host into the most polarizing figure of my lifetime.
 
You stupid fuck. All of them fucking racist asses in Ukraine who hate all people of color are receiving unlimited weapons to use against all minorities all over the world by nazi organizations all over the world...yet you are too fucking dumb to understand that you have been programmed to think everything Russia is bad.

Let's do a tit for tat. You outline everything Russia has done bad since its inception as a country and I will point out all the bad the US has done since its inception (1787). Please make sure you highlight all of the racist shit because what I can remember is that the Russians lost 27 million fucking people to Nazis. Thats a fact, bruh.

yo they got niggas posting straight out of St. Petersburg now?

:lol::lol::lol:
 
Almost every freedom fighter/national leader gets hooked on power at the top and...will use any rationaliztion to keep it..

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yo they got niggas posting straight out of St. Petersburg now?

:lol::lol::lol:

:lol:

These motherfuckers will tell you with a straight face on day 553 of a 3 day war that russia is secretly winning but the media won't tell you. This shit is catnip to the freethinking™ mind aka Oswald Bates in the flesh giving his view on geopolitics...

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The only shit that beats it is covid. :smh: :lol:
 
There was some thread where I posted what it would cost to end hunger, homelessness and provide universal college education in the US and it was less than what was spent in Afghanistan.

Allocation of resources is the issue.

The 50 or so billion we have designated for Ukraine defense could have done so much good here.

Let Europe police itself. Maybe the Trump administration (the people making his foreign policy decisions) was on to something reducing our role in NATO.

Oh but you can't say that around these parts.
You better chill with that reasonable take or you will be called a Russian bot. :roflmao2:

But on the real side, that's what folks obessed with politics won't answer. Instead, they will call names. Why the fuck ain't Europe footing ALL(or damn near close to it) the costs for this shit?

I know just 15 years or so ago folks on the left wanted the U.S. to have a reduced world police role. Wonder what happened to change that? :lol:
 
yo they got niggas posting straight out of St. Petersburg now?

:lol::lol::lol:
Naw nigga... just a realistic military head. The US needs an equally mutual destructive opponent to keep these racist corporate greed muthafuckas in balance. What you think they gonna do if the US is the only real power. Russia can't lose because we all lose. Do you not understand that?
 
:lol:

I'm unsurprised, considering he recently bought his mother a 10-million-dollar property in Egypt.
Filthy cac scum.
 
:lol:

I'm unsurprised, considering he recently bought his mother a 10-million-dollar property in Egypt.
Filthy cac scum.

You didn't even get the numbers right. :smh:
It also got a community note for being obviously bullshit but this is bgol...:lol:



They tried this scandal before (secret moscow properties) using this woman who also has the same name as the mother in law.


Egyptians on the "journalist"



Beyond the obvious implausibly of this, it would take 10 seconds to see that Angelina Jolie doesn't own property in Egypt but the appeal of the catnip was too strong...
 
He can't hold an election right now. And we damn sure won't pay for it. Israel has caused a much needed distraction that Russia needed.
 
He can't hold an election right now. And we damn sure won't pay for it. Israel has caused a much needed distraction that Russia needed.
But now Russia is falling short and kissing the azz of The Wagner Group to come back and help them.
 
He can't hold an election right now. And we damn sure won't pay for it. Israel has caused a much needed distraction that Russia needed.
Well he kinda can hold an election now, but the process of getting every registered citizen to vote, would take to long and they don’t have the funds.

This was one of his issues with the process. Now, many feel yhe underlying concerns for him and not everyone else is, he’s not confident about being victorious.
Apparently dude just increased the cutoff age for women to join. I think it was early 40’s now it was upped to 62.

Don’t know if Russia Needed a distraction.

Before Gaza/Israel them European nations was like, man I’m tired of this begging as dude. Way before the Hamas strikes on Israel, the media headlines and articles about Ukraine were less and less…
Israel happening actually allows Joey B, to send President Z calls straight to voicemail

:callyou:

:tut:

:crying::crymeariver:
 
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