Making White Directors Uncomfortable.

I dont know what the fuck it is about english accents that american brothers find funny

but american cacs are just in fuckin awe of it, so coming from healthy, well spoken intellectual brother like him, they were dumbfounded..

they needed eddie murphy or larry elder, then they wouldve felt more at home and at ease..to voice their opinions..
 
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The looks on their faces after the 2 minute mark :lol::lol::lol::lol:

they couldnt even think of ONE thing to say to defend themselves :smh: lmaooooo

I dont agree with how he was making race issues sound like its only an american thing ... the U.K blacks, from what I hear, are just as bad

but it was funny nonetheless
 
The looks on their faces after the 2 minute mark :lol::lol::lol::lol:

they couldnt even think of ONE thing to say to defend themselves :smh: lmaooooo

I dont agree with how he was making race issues sound like its only an american thing ... the U.K blacks, from what I hear, are just as bad

but it was funny nonetheless

why would they be defending themselves ? They too are just directors.

they would be defending the industry and that they couldn't do..

that is a question for studio heads to answer. those who deny the opportunity that McQueen was speaking too.


would be no different than them asking how 5 black men could spray a park and shoot a baby......how could you defend something that you have nothing to do with......they'd have to ask a gangbanger
 
why would they be defending themselves ? They too are just directors.

The conversation is about how american white directors dont put black leads in their films and how "shameful" he thinks it is

arent those men all white american directors?
 
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The looks on their faces after the 2 minute mark :lol::lol::lol::lol:

they couldnt even think of ONE thing to say to defend themselves :smh: lmaooooo

I dont agree with how he was making race issues sound like its only an american thing ... the U.K blacks, from what I hear, are just as bad

but it was funny nonetheless

In regards to actors, the British seem to have less of an issue in casting minorities. Not sure how directors, producers, and writers fair.
 
The dude was 100% right. How can any director that lives in NYC or LA not have Black or Hispanic people in their movies when they are SURROUNDED by people of color.

NYC is 50% Black and Hispanic.

LA is 57% Hispanic and Black.

So out of site out of mind is a load of bullshit, cause they damn sure seem to remember to cast us when they need a criminal.
 
same looks several times in this one too

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The looks on their faces after the 2 minute mark :lol::lol::lol::lol:

they couldnt even think of ONE thing to say to defend themselves :smh: lmaooooo

I dont agree with how he was making race issues sound like its only an american thing ... the U.K blacks, from what I hear, are just as bad

but it was funny nonetheless

Hollywood generated movies have a far more global reach than anything that may come out of the UK, so it made a lot of sense for Steve McQueen to have focused on the fact that American white film directors rarely if ever, cast African-American actors or actresses in non-stereotypical roles let alone leading ones.

I'm not particularly sure what being a UK based person of African descent has to do with anything though, but the truth he spoke was undeniable.
 
In regards to actors, the British seem to have less of an issue in casting minorities. Not sure how directors, producers, and writers fair.

After watching episodes of Luther and Sherlock Holmes and seeing some of the people cast in the show I have to agree. I was telling my wife that this women in Season 2 of Luther would NEVER be cast cause of how dark skinned she is:

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why would they be defending themselves ? They too are just directors.

they would be defending the industry and that they couldn't do..

that is a question for studio heads to answer. those who deny the opportunity that McQueen was speaking too.


would be no different than them asking how 5 black men could spray a park and shoot a baby......how could you defend something that you have nothing to do with......they'd have to ask a gangbanger

the one part of his diatribe spoke to directors and why so few black and thats a studio head issue but the other part spoke to casting and thats a joint director/studio issue. Those white directors sitting around there are all guilty of what was he was talking about to some degree greater or lesser. And they were unwilling to offer any insight because its the old (white) boys network.

But they should have told the truth...which is: WHITE PEOPLE MAKE MOVIES WITH WHITE PEOPLE IN MIND.

Its not racist its natural. When I write a story the hero or protagonist is black..why because I'm black and I want to see myself as the hero of the story.

There was a big controversy about the HBO show "Girls" it was highly acclaimed and people said it spoke to a generation..and the biggest knock on it was how it was ridiculous that a show set in New York wouldn't feature any people of color. And so in an effort to shut up the critics a black character was added as a brief love interest to one of the girls. The reality is the show is about a girl and her inner circle of friends and confidants and not surprising theyre all white. Even in big ass electic ass new york white people's inner circle tends to stay white just as black stay black and latino stays latino. What at issue is IF HBO was pitched a show like Girls but with an all black or latino cast they most likely would have passed on it. Why because THAT show wouldn't be highly acclaimed an even if it was no one would say it speaks to a generation nor would it be highly rated.

and why would that be?? the answer to that question answers ALL of steve mcqueen questions.
 
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None of those directors was in the least bit uncomfortable. That's a tactic I've seen white people use against non-whites when matters of race come up.

Absolute silence. Let the non-white person rattle off a list of justified critiques and facts while remaining stone-faced while in the back of their minds, "Whatever n*gger. It doesn't matter what you say, you're still a n*gger."

It's called "White Silence In Racial Discussions". Dr. Joy DeGruy brings this up a lot in her talks.

===== From the so-called White Privilege Conference =====

This paper analyzes a common dynamic in interracial discussions on race: white silence. Using whiteness theory as the frame, I explicate the common white rationales for silence in discussions of race and challenge each of these rationales from an anti-racist framework. These rationales include: “It’s just my personality—I rarely talk in groups”; “Everyone has already said what I was thinking”; “I don’t know much about race, so I will just listen”; “I don’t feel safe / don’t want to be attacked, so I am staying quiet”; “I am trying to be careful not to dominate the discussion”; “I don’t want to be misunderstood / say the wrong thing / offend anybody”; and “I already know all this.” I argue that regardless of the rationale for white silence in discussions of race, if it is not strategically enacted from an anti-racist framework, it functions to maintain white power and privilege and must be challenged. - Robin DiAngelo

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why would they be defending themselves ? They too are just directors.

they would be defending the industry and that they couldn't do..

that is a question for studio heads to answer. those who deny the opportunity that McQueen was speaking too.


would be no different than them asking how 5 black men could spray a park and shoot a baby......how could you defend something that you have nothing to do with......they'd have to ask a gangbanger

WTFAREYUTALKBOOUT? DID U JUST WATCH THE SAME THING WE ALL DID? WHAT D FUKK DOES SPRAYING A PARK HAVE 2 DO WITH THE FUKKIN QUESTION?

EXAMPLE HOW SEINFELD WAS CAST THE FIRST FEW MANY YEARS OR EVEN THE ONE WITH 2BROKE GIRLS?

U WHITE FOLKS DONT KNOW WHEN TO QUIT MAN!:smh::smh:
 
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the one part of his diatribe spoke to directors and why so few black and thats a studio head issue but the other part spoke to casting and thats a joint director/studio issue. Those white directors sitting around there are all guilty of what was he was talking about to some degree greater or lesser. And they were unwilling to offer any insight because its the old (white) boys network.

But they should have told the truth...which is: White people make movies with white people in mind.

Its not racist its natural. When i write a story the hero or protagonist is black..why because i'm black and i want to see myself as the hero of the story.

There was a big controversy about the hbo show "girls" it was highly acclaimed and people said it spoke to a generation..and the biggest knock on it was how it was ridiculous that a show set in new york would feature any people of color. And so in an effort to shut up the critics a black character was added as a brief love interest to one of the girls. The reality is the show is about a girl and her inner circle of friends and confidants and not surprising theyre all white. Even in big ass electic ass new york white people's inner circle tends to stay white just as black stay black and latino stays latino. What at issue is if hbo was pitched a show like girls but with an all black or latino cast they most likely would have passed on it. Why because that show wouldn't be highly acclaimed an even if it was no one would say it speaks to a generation nor would it be highly rated.

And why would that be?? The answer to that question answers all of steve mcqueen questions.

why even bother trynna explain shit to white folks on this board..?
 
the one part of his diatribe spoke to directors and why so few black and thats a studio head issue but the other part spoke to casting and thats a joint director/studio issue. Those white directors sitting around there are all guilty of what was he was talking about to some degree greater or lesser. And they were unwilling to offer any insight because its the old (white) boys network.

But they should have told the truth...which is: WHITE PEOPLE MAKE MOVIES WITH WHITE PEOPLE IN MIND.

Its not racist its natural. When I write a story the hero or protagonist is black..why because I'm black and I want to see myself as the hero of the story.

There was a big controversy about the HBO show "Girls" it was highly acclaimed and people said it spoke to a generation..and the biggest knock on it was how it was ridiculous that a show set in New York would feature any people of color. And so in an effort to shut up the critics a black character was added as a brief love interest to one of the girls. The reality is the show is about a girl and her inner circle of friends and confidants and not surprising theyre all white. Even in big ass electic ass new york white people's inner circle tends to stay white just as black stay black and latino stays latino. What at issue is IF HBO was pitched a show like Girls but with an all black or latino cast they most likely would have passed on it. Why because THAT show wouldn't be highly acclaimed an even if it was no one would say it speaks to a generation nor would it be highly rated.

and why would that be?? the answer to that question answers ALL of steve mcqueen questions.

do you know any of those directors by face ? I sure didn't..

so i am not sure if they have made movies that cast black actors in the lead.

Im also not sure who determines casting ....is that the studio, director, producers ....

Dude I grew up with works enough to eat but he is always the big black guy thats either funny or scarey.....He was in Shaft driving the car and eating donuts :lol::lol:

the industry is whats fucked no matter how its sliced.

there are a handful of black actors that stay working while others doing commercials or working at waffle house





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WTFAREYUTALKBOOUT? DID U JUST WATCH THE SAME THING WE ALL DID? WHAT D FUKK DOES SPRAYING A PARK HAVE 2 DO WITH THE FUKKIN QUESTION?

EXAMPLE HOW SEINFELD WAS CAST THE FIRST FEW MANY YEARS OR EVEN THE ONE WITH 2BROKE GIRLS?

U WHITE FOLKS DONT KNOW WHEN TO QUIT MAN!:smh::smh:

Dude, anti-blackness is at an all-time high. If it were a stock on Wall Street, it would push the DOW past 20K last year instead of it hoving around 15K now.



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Kaya, that book!

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WTFAREYUTALKBOOUT? DID U JUST WATCH THE SAME THING WE ALL DID? WHAT D FUKK DOES SPRAYING A PARK HAVE 2 DO WITH THE FUKKIN QUESTION?

EXAMPLE HOW SEINFELD WAS CAST THE FIRST FEW MANY YEARS OR EVEN THE ONE WITH 2BROKE GIRLS?

U WHITE FOLKS DONT KNOW WHEN TO QUIT MAN!:smh::smh:

He actually told you what he mean't then gave you an example to relate it to yourself. Kinda like if a random white guy asked you about gang culture but you have no idea about it, you would say go ask a gang member not me.
 
None of those directors was in the least bit uncomfortable. That's a tactic I've seen white people use against non-whites when matters of race come up.

Absolute silence. Let the non-white person rattle off a list of justified critiques and facts while remaining stone-faced while in the back of their minds, "Whatever n*gger. It doesn't matter what you say, you're still a n*gger."

It's called "White Silence In Racial Discussions". Dr. Joy DeGruy brings this up a lot in her talks.

===== From the so-called White Privilege Conference =====

This paper analyzes a common dynamic in interracial discussions on race: white silence. Using whiteness theory as the frame, I explicate the common white rationales for silence in discussions of race and challenge each of these rationales from an anti-racist framework. These rationales include: “It’s just my personality—I rarely talk in groups”; “Everyone has already said what I was thinking”; “I don’t know much about race, so I will just listen”; “I don’t feel safe / don’t want to be attacked, so I am staying quiet”; “I am trying to be careful not to dominate the discussion”; “I don’t want to be misunderstood / say the wrong thing / offend anybody”; and “I already know all this.” I argue that regardless of the rationale for white silence in discussions of race, if it is not strategically enacted from an anti-racist framework, it functions to maintain white power and privilege and must be challenged. - Robin DiAngelo

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None of those directors was in the least bit uncomfortable. That's a tactic I've seen white people use against non-whites when matters of race come up.

Absolute silence. Let the non-white person rattle off a list of justified critiques and facts while remaining stone-faced while in the back of their minds, "Whatever n*gger. It doesn't matter what you say, you're still a n*gger."

It's called "White Silence In Racial Discussions". Dr. Joy DeGruy brings this up a lot in her talks.

===== From the so-called White Privilege Conference =====

This paper analyzes a common dynamic in interracial discussions on race: white silence. Using whiteness theory as the frame, I explicate the common white rationales for silence in discussions of race and challenge each of these rationales from an anti-racist framework. These rationales include: “It’s just my personality—I rarely talk in groups”; “Everyone has already said what I was thinking”; “I don’t know much about race, so I will just listen”; “I don’t feel safe / don’t want to be attacked, so I am staying quiet”; “I am trying to be careful not to dominate the discussion”; “I don’t want to be misunderstood / say the wrong thing / offend anybody”; and “I already know all this.” I argue that regardless of the rationale for white silence in discussions of race, if it is not strategically enacted from an anti-racist framework, it functions to maintain white power and privilege and must be challenged. - Robin DiAngelo

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That's what I got from it

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he actually told you what he mean't then gave you an example to relate it to yourself. Kinda like if a random white guy asked you about gang culture but you have no idea about it, you would say go ask a gang member not me.

u are not that naive...or u must be white urself....i'll leave it at that! ,,the black folks on this board will understand how i came at him and if u dont then ..idk what 2 tell u cos i sure am not teachin u how we know when white folks use key switch topics or words to try to divert the convo.. Have a good day cac
 
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