Love vs Attachment: No Water, No Moon

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No Water, No Moon


One of the greatest problems that is bound to face everybody who is traveling the path, is to make a clear-cut distinction between love and attachment.



They appear the same – they are not. They look alike – they are not.



Rather, on the contrary, even hate is more similar to love than attachment. Attachment is just the contrary; it hides the reality of hatred and gives the appearance of love, it kills love.


Nothing else can be so poisonous as attachment, as possessiveness.



So try to understand this, then we can enter this beautiful story.


It has happened to many, it is happening to you – because mind is so confused between love and attachment. And those who look at things from the outside, they always become victims.

Attachment is taken as if it is love, and once you have taken attachment, possessiveness, as love, you will always go on missing the real thing.



You have chosen a false coin. Now you will not look for the real coin because you think this is the real. You have been deceived.


Possessiveness, attachment, is the false love.



Hatred is better, because at least it is true, at least it is a fact. And hatred can become love any day, but possessiveness can never become love. You simply have to drop it to grow into love.



Why does attachment appear like love? And what is the difference? The mechanism is subtle.


Love means that you are ready to merge yourself into the other.



It is a death, the deepest death possible, the deepest abyss possible in which you can fall, and go on falling and falling. And there is no end to it, there is no bottom to it, it is an eternal falling into the other. It never ends.



To love means the other has become so significant that you can lose yourself.



Love is surrender – unconditional; because if there is even a single condition then you are important, not the other; then you are the center, not the other.


And if you are the center, the other is just a means. You are using the other, exploiting the other, finding satisfaction, gratification through the other – but you are the goal.


And love says, make the end the other, and dissolve, and merge. It is a dying phenomenon, a death-process.


That’s why people are afraid of love.


You may talk about it, you may sing about it, but deep down you are afraid of love.


You never enter into it.


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If you are in love with me, not an intellectual relationship – which is not a relationship at all – but a love relationship, if you are emotionally in touch with me, then it will go still deeper.

Because when you love a person you hear him from the heart, not from the head.

And the head is the most rotten thing, rubbish, just a wastepaper basket – nothing much. All that is rubbish, you go on gathering in the head.

Rubbish never enters the heart, it accumulates in your head.

Only that which is very essential goes in the heart.


So if you are here just as a curious person, just out of curiosity, you will hear me, but just on the surface. It is not going to do much to you. If you are here because you have suffered – if you have come not as a curious person, but as a person who has known life, its suffering, and a maturity has come to you and you want really to be transformed – then you will hear from a deeper depth.

But the depth can go still deeper. If you are in love with me, if you have a trust, then you will be more open – because only trust can be open; otherwise you are always afraid and you are always closed.

When you are totally open – you have suffered, life has given you a depth and then you trust, you are totally open – then the thing can go immediately to the very heart. You will never be the same again once you hear it.





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I could see how this is real deep and real to some cats. But this is some bullshit to someone like me. I'm so above this bull shit. Osho is a really interesting dude no doubt. But he was very similar to these modern day big religious leaders. Dudes follower bought him 93 Rolls Royces. Now where the fuck does that fit in, in the World of Zen?

Niggaz need to do the knowledge before they get pimped by some dude with smooth as lines.
 
I could see how this is real deep and real to some cats. But this is some bullshit to someone like me. I'm so above this bull shit. Osho is a really interesting dude no doubt. But he was very similar to these modern day big religious leaders. Dudes follower bought him 93 Rolls Royces. Now where the fuck does that fit in, in the World of Zen?

Niggaz need to do the knowledge before they get pimped by some dude with smooth as lines.


http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/innercontent.asp?FileName=biography8/08-20-rolls.txt
 
I could see how this is real deep and real to some cats. But this is some bullshit to someone like me. I'm so above this bull shit. Osho is a really interesting dude no doubt. But he was very similar to these modern day big religious leaders. Dudes follower bought him 93 Rolls Royces. Now where the fuck does that fit in, in the World of Zen?

Niggaz need to do the knowledge before they get pimped by some dude with smooth as lines.

Separate the message from the messenger.
 
Love cannot truly exist in this society. You have to be on a remote island somwhere for that shit to work.
 
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Hatred is better, because at least it is true, at least it is a fact. And hatred can become love any day, but possessiveness can never become love. You simply have to drop it to grow into love.





I need more understanding of this...can anyone break it down?
 
Love cannot truly exist in this society. You have to be on a remote island somwhere for that shit to work.

I've been rockin with pure love for about a year now and I only have positive experiences to show for it. Even the "bad" shit that happens doesn't have a negative impact on me. So called bad people become nice and polite around because they're absorbing my loving energy as it is just as contagious as hateful energy. I am living proof that this shit works, you just gotta live it at all times.
 
Love is surrender – unconditional; because if there is even a single condition then you are important, not the other; then you are the center, not the other.


And if you are the center, the other is just a means. You are using the other, exploiting the other, finding satisfaction, gratification through the other – but you are the goal.







Going thru this shit right now......


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