LA Times: The trial of Peter Liang & confronting the reality of Asian American privilege

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The trial of Peter Liang and confronting the reality of Asian American privilege

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opin...n-american-privilege-20160421-snap-story.html

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Tuesday, former New York police officer Peter Liang was sentenced to probation and community service -- but no jail time -- in the 2014 killing of Akai Gurley, an unarmed black man, in the stairwell of a Brooklyn housing project.

This notably light sentence is a relief to some Asian Americans -- particularly Chinese Americans -- who leaped to Liang’s defense from the start, arguing that the shooting was a tragic accident and that Liang’s prosecution and conviction were proof of selective prosecution and racial scapegoating.

But many progressive Asian Americans -- who called for Liang’s conviction and rallied Asian Americans to stand in solidarity with black people against police violence -- are bitterly disappointed with Liang’s sentence.

This divide over the Liang trial reflects a much deeper political division within Asian American communities about whether to pursue an “Asian-first” strategy or a broader racial justice agenda. At the heart of that debate is a crucial topic that often gets swept under the rug, one the Liang trial will hopefully bring to the fore: the beneficial positioning of Asian Americans in the country’s racial order.

This advanced positioning of Asian Americans relative to black people in the U.S. racial order can be traced all the way back to the mid-19th century. Chinese arriving in San Francisco were residentially segregated, subject to mob violence, harassed through municipal laws and widely scorned as inferior to and unassimilable with whites. Still, they were universally seen -- on the authority of the ethnological science, racial common sense and international norms of the day -- as a different, superior order of being as compared with black people. They were aliens ineligible for citizenship, but they were also ineligible for enslavement.

Peter Liang’s supporters have zoomed in on the narrow question of whether he was treated more harshly than his white counterparts, while blocking out the larger picture of the privileges and immunities Asian Americans enjoy.

The notion that Asian Americans are pawns or sacrificial lambs in the war between whites and blacks is a recurrent fantasy among many Asian Americans. A scapegoat, however, is by definition a moral innocent, one made to bear the blame for others. By what authoritative procedure have Asian Americans absolved themselves of moral responsibility for the hierarchical racial order in which they are embedded?

That Asian Americans experience discrimination does not secure their innocence. Nor does the fact that their privileges and immunities are not as complete or robust as those of whites.

This is a pivotal moment in the political history of Asian America. Currently, some Asian American groups are forging alliances with conservative white politicians to defeat state affirmative action bills and spearhead anti-affirmative action lawsuits against elite universities. Others have moved in the opposite direction, denouncing these “Asian-first” moves and calling for Asian-black solidarity in the fight against white supremacy. The Achilles heel of the latter position it that it assumes the unity of nonwhite interests, even though Asian Americans are positioned differently from black people in the U.S. racial order.

The Liang case challenges Asian Americans to develop a political ethos that calls for confronting racial hierarchy and anti-black racism, even when the self-interest of Asian Americans dictates otherwise.

Claire Jean Kim is a professor of Asian American studies and political science at UC Irvine. She is the author of the award-winning book "Bitter Fruit: The Politics of Black-Korean Conflict in New York City."
 
For a race a people including cacs who swear they are almighty intelligence, to embody so much evil and ignorance is still mind boggling to me. That's some demonic DNA floating through their veins.
 
Why do blacks still support their businesses??? I said a while back that these other minorities will team up with whites against you.

While you up here talking about 'people of color,' or saying how Asians and Latinos suffer white supremacy, these other minorities are plotting with whites against you. They in the black community spying on you.

Two of those cops that arrested that black post office worker were Hispanics. Another group that's on their way to try to get white priveledge.
 
I practically live in Chinatown here in NYC. This case has upset me to no end. After all those Chinese supporters came out for Liang, that was it for me.
A few of my Chinese neighbors were admittedly embarrassed by it.
I haven't even supported the local Chinese-Owned business in my area after those protests.
And I became sickened by John Lui, Margaret Chin, Yun-Line Niou, and a few of the other Asian "leaders" here.
Especially Lui, a protege of the late Bill Lynch, who was a Black Political Power Broker in this city.
I had supported Lui for Mayor before his staff got caught up in some financial bullshit.

I don't know if any of you caught the "DEMOCRACY NOW" episode in which Gurley's Aunt and Cathy Deng argued with John Lui over this case.
Deng works for a local Asian Activist group up the block from me.
She caught one of my posts on a number of FB pages concerning this case, and actually got in contact with me.
That Chick's getting verbally slaughtered in her Community as a traitor due to her support of the Gurley Family.
Along with a number of other Asian activists.

This whole thing should be a lesson to Black Folks on many levels.
About the major dearth of Black Media.
Who our "allies" actually are and aren't (Yeah. Kenneth Thompson).
And our constant reliance on being entertained instead of informed.

 
There's no such thing as Asian Anerican privilege. The only supreme in this universe is white supremacy.

That's our problem

I admit to being slow on the uptake but, what the hell is "Asian Privilege"? :confused:

In western society, I think Asians might be one of the most "under represented" minorities in America. If you look at popular culture in the west, Asians HISTORICALLY have been in the minority with regards to social standing.

So this idea that they're somehow "privileged" in America is kinda silly. In fact, it's downright laughable.:hmm:
 
now theres ASIAN Privilege? LMAO
You ain't been around online? There's a privilege for everything these days. It's like that shaming shit. Shit, conservatives even came up with black privilege. :smh: Don't forget about CIS privilege. It's getting nuts.

You want to close dialogue as fast as possible? Start talking about privilege. You ain't going to get Asians to do shit if you start talking about Asian privilege. You just guarantee a pissing contest. :angry: "I work hard for everything I have," type shit. The author challenges Asians about anti-black racism and racial hierarchy, but kills it by having to jump on the privilege bandwagon.

As for the Asian pig, fuck him and his supporters.
 
Oh but ninjas like Dr truth just worship these slanted eyed CAC's. Before we address the outside threats to the black race we must "cleanse" ourselves of these uncle Tom's.
 
I practically live in Chinatown here in NYC. This case has upset me to no end. After all those Chinese supporters came out for Liang, that was it for me.
A few of my Chinese neighbors were admittedly embarrassed by it.
I haven't even supported the local Chinese-Owned business in my area after those protests.
And I became sickened by John Lui, Margaret Chin, Yun-Line Niou, and a few of the other Asian "leaders" here.
Especially Lui, a protege of the late Bill Lynch, who was a Black Political Power Broker in this city.
I had supported Lui for Mayor before his staff got caught up in some financial bullshit.

I don't know if any of you caught the "DEMOCRACY NOW" episode in which Gurley's Aunt and Cathy Deng argued with John Lui over this case.
Deng works for a local Asian Activist group up the block from me.
She caught one of my posts on a number of FB pages concerning this case, and actually got in contact with me.
That Chick's getting verbally slaughtered in her Community as a traitor due to her support of the Gurley Family.
Along with a number of other Asian activists.

This whole thing should be a lesson to Black Folks on many levels.
About the major dearth of Black Media.
Who our "allies" actually are and aren't (Yeah. Kenneth Thompson).
And our constant reliance on being entertained instead of informed.



http://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/thousands-support-officer-liang-rally-n320621
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/13/n...smay-and-frustration-after-liang-verdict.html
 
Many Asians Express Dismay and Frustration After Liang Verdict

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As the jury read the verdict — guilty — in the manslaughter trial of a New York City police officer whose gunshot into the stairwell of a public-housing building killed an unarmed man, the officer, Peter Liang, crumpled in his seat in State Supreme Court in Brooklyn, his face falling into his hands.

In the courtroom gallery on Thursday night, his deflated posture was mirrored not just by his family, but also by some of the Chinese-language newspaper reporters present, and by the supporters, many of Asian descent, who had rallied around him.

Their courtroom sentiment reflected the feelings that have swelled throughout the city’s Asian enclaves since Officer Liang’s indictment last year and that have peaked following his conviction. Many have rallied around the officer, who is Chinese-American, describing him as a scapegoat who was targeted at a time when there is a roiling national debate about the policing of black neighborhoods. And it has pulled at a thread long woven through the city’s Asian population, which sees what happened as yet another example of the mistreatment of a marginalized community, ill-equipped to fight back.

“In the wake of unfortunately so many deaths of unarmed black men, some cops gotta hang,” said John C. Liu, referring to what he contended was a widespread opinion. Mr. Liu, the former New York City comptroller who ran for mayor in 2013, has been vocal on social media about his belief that Officer Liang was unfairly singled out. “The sentiment in the Asian community is: It’s easier to hang an Asian, because Asians, they don’t speak up.”

A bullet from Mr. Liang’s gun ricocheted off a cement wall and killed Akai Gurley, 28, an unarmed black man and the father to two young girls, as he walked down the stairs in the Louis H. Pink Houses, a public-housing project in East New York, Brooklyn, on November 20, 2014. Throughout the trial, Mr. Gurley’s family had framed the shooting along different racial lines, saying it was another example of unjustified police violence against black men.

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Mandy Lu, 43, a stylist in Manhattan’s Chinatown, felt that Mr. Liang’s race had influenced the verdict.CreditDave Sanders for The New York Times
Mr. Liang, who was fired from the Police Department immediately after the verdict, faces up to 15 years in prison when he is sentenced by Justice Danny K. Chun of State Supreme Court. (Justice Chun is Korean-American.)

On Friday, in Manhattan’s Chinatown and in Sunset Park, Brooklyn, another heavily Asian neighborhood, Asian-Americans denounced the verdict at various gatherings. At a news conference at the Chinatown offices of the Lin Sing Association on Mott Street, an advocacy group, Mr. Liang’s defense team fielded questions from the audience, but played down the suggestion that his ethnicity played a role in the case.

“People of all races are saying that if Peter Liang were not Chinese or were not a person of color, maybe he wouldn’t have been convicted,” said Robert E. Brown, one of Mr. Liang’s lawyers. “I honestly don’t know. I don’t think that our jury deliberately said, ‘Let’s convict this person because he’s a person of color.’”

Caaav and has expanded its mission to protest police mistreatment of anyone, regardless of background.

Cathy Dang, the executive director of the organization, described the tightrope that she and other supporters of Mr. Gurley walk, between a sense that Mr. Liang was treated unfairly and a desire to seek justice for victims of police abuse.

“Peter Liang is not a white officer, and he is being the one who is thrown under the bus,’’ Ms. Dang said. Referring to Eric Garner, an unarmed man who died on Staten Island after an officer put him in a chokehold, she added, “Meanwhile, white officers have not been held accountable.” None of the officers involved in the Garner case have been charged with a crime.

“We have always said this case only means that we want to make sure that white officers be held accountable,” Ms. Dang said.

She said Caaav came under fierce criticism from many Asians for its support of the Gurley family. “I hear it and I feel for them,’’ she said. “I understand that they feel like he is a scapegoat, but at the end of the day, a life was stolen from a family, and Officer Liang is part of a system that does it to many other people, and we can’t keep giving police officers impunity.”

On Pell Street in Chinatown, a day after the verdict, Donald Moy, 71, sat reading newspapers at a cafe he owns, Mee Sum Coffee. He was unequivocal. “The case is 100 percent by accident — the bullet ricocheted,” he said. “So many cases involving white officers, only one involving a Chinese, and one-two-three, they’re finished. That’s it?”

At Kelly Hair Salon nearby, Mandy Lu, 43, a stylist who lives in Chinatown, became overwhelmed with emotion as she tended to a customer. “You have so many police that have been so extremely abusive,” she said in Mandarin. “Why do they have to make an example of a Chinese?”

 
So Close Yet So Far: Liang Supporters Need to Rethink Protests

It is a real shame that Chinese groups are protesting Liang’s conviction, claiming that he was a scapegoat for the NYPD. Peter Liang unjustly killed an innocent Black man and his Chinese identity does not disqualify his guilt. These protests by the Chinese community distract from and defile the actual victim, Akai Gurley, along with his family, his friends, and his community.

A brief summary of the events causing Akai’s death, for anyone who is unfamiliar with the story – Peter Liang along with his partner, Shaun Landau, were doing their usual sweeps of a NYCHA public housing building as part of operation clean halls. While in the dark stairwell, Liang was supposedly startled by footsteps and noises coming from up the stairs. Liang proceeded to take out his gun and fired aimlessly with the bullet ricocheting off the walls and hitting Akai Gurley, a soon-to-be husband and father of two. According to court testimony, Liang and Landau had a brief argument after the shooting where Liang was more concerned about losing his job before performing CPR and calling for help. Akai Gurley was pronounced dead at Brookdale Hospital. On February 11, 2016, Peter Liang was found guilty of manslaughter, the first time in a decade that a police officer had been convicted.

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Akai Gurley and his daughter. (District Attorney Kings County, NY Daily News)
Days after the conviction, thousands of people went to the streets to protest the trial (predominantly Chinese and Asian Americans), claiming that Liang was used as a scapegoat by the NYPD and because he was not white, he was convicted. The anger is somewhat understandable; Asians suffer at the hands of racism and this conviction may appear that the NYPD is protecting their white officers by sacrificing Peter Liang in an effort to thwart growing anti-police attitudes. In essence, the department threw him under the bus because he was a person of color and didn’t give him the backing that other white officers received.

This anger, though, is grossly misguided. Cathy Deng, executive director of the Asian organizing organization CAAAV, rejects these protests stating that “A scapegoat is someone who didn’t do anything wrong. Peter Liang did do something wrong: he killed Akai Gurley.”

Of course, many people support the conviction of Peter Liang but the question still lingers: why Peter Liang when many other officers so obviously deserve punishment? I don’t believe there is anything wrong with asking that question, unfortunately, the pro-Liang supporters seem to be asking why Peter Liang wasn’t protected like other white officers. Oiyan Poon, Assistant Professor of Higher Education at Loyola University, explains perfectly: “Somehow along the way, this group of Chinese Americans has concluded that the solution is that Chinese or Asian Americans should be able to access the privileges of whiteness rather than transforming the system.”

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We see signs saying “justice for all” and “equal justice, no scapegoating” but justice is not allowing Peter Liang to get away with murder – and by extension enjoying the privileges of whiteness. What these groups should be protesting instead is the violent, malicious conglomerate that is the NYPD. Hold the entire police department accountable but don’t excuse Liang just because he’s Chinese. The police department first and foremost is founded on a flawed fundamental basis (i.e. policing originated from slave catching) but it also serves the interest of those in power.

Where politicians fail to act in the interest of the people through fair labor and wages, education, proper housing, crime prevention, and medical/mental health assistance, police pick up the dirty work. When politicians can’t figure out how to assist the homeless, the police are there to arrest and harass them. When gentrifiers colonize neighborhoods and communities, the police are there to evict the residents.

These protests in support of Peter Liang (and other police officers) must come to an end. The individual police officers are part of larger, hierarchical institution and they are all to blame when any one of them murders innocent Black people.

I stand with my Asian community and I also stand for Black lives. To stand with my community means being hypercritical of our collective and individual actions and to hold each other accountable for our complicity in this racist, sexist, patriarchal system. Undoing these deeply embedded tendencies is much easier said than done but to achieve solidarity, there is no other choice but to hold each one of us accountable and to actively support other marginalized identities.



“To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong and refrain from principled argument…Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed.”


https://fordhamalternative.com/2016...ar-liang-supporters-need-to-rethink-protests/
 
Should The Brooklyn Cop Convicted Of Killing An Innocent Man Be Spared Prison?

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Moments after Hortencia Peterson heard from a Brooklyn jury that the killer of her nephew, Akai Gurley, had been found guilty of second-degree manslaughter and official misconduct, she felt that something miraculous had happened: a cop had been convicted in New York City for the killing of an unarmed black man.

For weeks, she believed that justice had been served, and that Peter Liang, the rookie cop who had accidentally fired the shot that ricocheted off a public housing stairwell wall and tore though Gurley’s heart, would be facing up to 15 years at his sentencing, scheduled for April 14th.

“I was feeling very happy that we were going to have a sentencing,” Peterson told Gothamist. “I thought we had come so far, gone through the trial, and actually found justice on the other side.”

But on March 22nd, the Brooklyn District Attorney’s office, which had expended significant resources as well as political capital in pursuing a guilty conviction for Liang, announced that they would not be seeking any prison time at Liang’s sentencing on April 14th.

Instead, as DA Ken Thompson’s letter recommended to Judge Danny Chun, they would be satisfied with probation and six months of home confinement. For Peterson, as well as Gurley’s mother, this was devastating.

“It was a slap in the face, and since then, my sister hasn’t been able to sleep,” Peterson said. “They’re saying that it’s okay to murder someone because they’re a police officer.”

In New York City, it’s highly unlikely for a judge to deviate from a prosecutor’s recommendation, according to Steve Zeidman, Director of the Criminal Defense Clinic at CUNY Law School.

“If the prosecutor is not seeking jail or prison time then it is very rare for a judge to sentence someone to jail or prison,” Zeidman told Gothamist. “This case is very different given the context of a police officer killing an unarmed black man and the attendant media attention, but the question is whether that is sufficient reason for the judge to go down the seldom used path of overriding the prosecutor's sentence recommendation.”

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When District Attorney Ken Thompson was running for office in 2013, he told Gothamist that “the most important thing I’m going to do as District Attorney, is have one standard of justice for everyone in Brooklyn.”

The previous District Attorney, Joe Hynes, had often failed to bring charges against police officers who had engaged in misconduct. A similar incident in 2004, where a police officer had shot a man on a public housing rooftop, resulted in no criminal charges. From the days immediately following the Gurley shooting however, Thompson vigorously pursued a guilty verdict against Liang.

“I believe it was a political calculation by Thompson to get the verdict he wanted and then make a recommendation for no jail time,” says Robert Gangi of the Police Reform Organizing Project. “District Attorney, by its very nature, is a political office.”

Thompson's sentencing recommendation comes in the midst of a movement (backed by Governor Cuomo) for independent prosecutors when dealing with police shootings.

In his recommendation for Liang, Thompson admits to the special privileges that are bestowed on police officers, writing, “The People recognize that there are mitigating circumstances in this case. The defendant chose to become a police officer, and to put his own life on the line, because he wanted to protect the public.”

To organizations committed to the prosecution of police misconduct, this certainly seemed like a double standard, where a police officer was being given consideration another defendant wouldn’t be.

“The DA’s decision sends the message across the country that officers can continue to kill without being held accountable,” said Cathy Deng, the Executive Director of CAAAV, an organization that has supported the Gurley family throughout the trial. “I know this case is uniquely different from a lot of others, but not so much that it’s still the story of an officer walking away free from killing another black person in the United States.”


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Thousands gathered in Cadman Plaza to protest the Liang verdict (Christian Hansen / Gothamist)


The week after the guilty verdict, 10,000 people gathered in Downtown Brooklyn and chanted “no scapegoat!,” as a petition appealing for leniency to Judge Danny Chun was passed around.

Many at the protest felt not only had Liang been abandoned by the justice system, but by his own union as well. The Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, which has steadfastly supported officers accused of misconduct in the past, was noticeably absent at the trial.

Without support from either the NYPD—which has only one senior Asian official, and whose commissioner immediately labeled Gurley “a total innocent”—or his union, the defense believed that the deck was stacked against Liang when it came to trial, especially considering his own partner was testifying against him in exchange for immunity.

"I think the District Attorney made some mistakes, but someone did die, so if he gets probation, I think that's a home run," says Eddie Chiu, president of the Lin Sing Association, which helped the Liang family during the trial.

"Nobody knows what the judge will do. I think if I was the judge, and I had the recommendation from the DA, I would just let it go."

On Thursday, the final decision will lie with Judge Chun, who has served on the Kings County Supreme Court since 2005, and ably oversaw one of the most high-profile cases in the city’s history.

To sway the judge towards his recommendation, Thompson cited a recent case where an NYPD officer was found guilty of killing an unarmed individual. In this instance, undercover officer Bryan Conroy shot and killed a man during a raid in 2003. He was found guilty of negligent homicide and sentenced to six months of home confinement and three years of probation.

Liang has also apologized to Gurley's domestic partner.

"I just saw Peter yesterday morning, he feels much, much better," Chiu says. "He's home, and all he hopes is he just doesn't go to jail."



 
There's no such thing as Asian Anerican privilege. The only supreme in this universe is white supremacy.

That's our problem

exactly these cacs cant run nothing right, they allowed debt to go

through the roof because they cant stop stealin and hoarding,

and now china owns most of the debt thus owning the united states, trust me, that call came from way up top.....

somebody got greased and their offshore account got pregnant on this shit right here,

it got nothing to do with those protestors, they probably got paid to be out there, in this country china got that extra extra extra long money and influence..

and courts are nothing but whores for the highest bidder, just like american politics and its whore politicians..
 
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