Krugman: There Has Been Basically No Wealth Creation In America Since 2000

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Op-Ed Columnist
Decade at Bernie’s
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: February 15, 2009

By now everyone knows the sad tale of Bernard Madoff’s duped investors. They looked at their statements and thought they were rich. But then, one day, they discovered to their horror that their supposed wealth was a figment of someone else’s imagination.

Unfortunately, that’s a pretty good metaphor for what happened to America as a whole in the first decade of the 21st century.

Last week the Federal Reserve released the results of the latest Survey of Consumer Finances, a triennial report on the assets and liabilities of American households. The bottom line is that there has been basically no wealth creation at all since the turn of the millennium: the net worth of the average American household, adjusted for inflation, is lower now than it was in 2001.

At one level this should come as no surprise. For most of the last decade America was a nation of borrowers and spenders, not savers. The personal savings rate dropped from 9 percent in the 1980s to 5 percent in the 1990s, to just 0.6 percent from 2005 to 2007, and household debt grew much faster than personal income. Why should we have expected our net worth to go up?

Yet until very recently Americans believed they were getting richer, because they received statements saying that their houses and stock portfolios were appreciating in value faster than their debts were increasing. And if the belief of many Americans that they could count on capital gains forever sounds naïve, it’s worth remembering just how many influential voices — notably in right-leaning publications like The Wall Street Journal, Forbes and National Review — promoted that belief, and ridiculed those who worried about low savings and high levels of debt.

Then reality struck, and it turned out that the worriers had been right all along. The surge in asset values had been an illusion — but the surge in debt had been all too real.

So now we’re in trouble — deeper trouble, I think, than most people realize even now. And I’m not just talking about the dwindling band of forecasters who still insist that the economy will snap back any day now.

For this is a broad-based mess. Everyone talks about the problems of the banks, which are indeed in even worse shape than the rest of the system. But the banks aren’t the only players with too much debt and too few assets; the same description applies to the private sector as a whole.

And as the great American economist Irving Fisher pointed out in the 1930s, the things people and companies do when they realize they have too much debt tend to be self-defeating when everyone tries to do them at the same time. Attempts to sell assets and pay off debt deepen the plunge in asset prices, further reducing net worth. Attempts to save more translate into a collapse of consumer demand, deepening the economic slump.

Are policy makers ready to do what it takes to break this vicious circle? In principle, yes. Government officials understand the issue: we need to “contain what is a very damaging and potentially deflationary spiral,” says Lawrence Summers, a top Obama economic adviser.

In practice, however, the policies currently on offer don’t look adequate to the challenge. The fiscal stimulus plan, while it will certainly help, probably won’t do more than mitigate the economic side effects of debt deflation. And the much-awaited announcement of the bank rescue plan left everyone confused rather than reassured.

There’s hope that the bank rescue will eventually turn into something stronger. It has been interesting to watch the idea of temporary bank nationalization move from the fringe to mainstream acceptance, with even Republicans like Senator Lindsey Graham conceding that it may be necessary. But even if we eventually do what’s needed on the bank front, that will solve only part of the problem.

If you want to see what it really takes to boot the economy out of a debt trap, look at the large public works program, otherwise known as World War II, that ended the Great Depression. The war didn’t just lead to full employment. It also led to rapidly rising incomes and substantial inflation, all with virtually no borrowing by the private sector. By 1945 the government’s debt had soared, but the ratio of private-sector debt to G.D.P. was only half what it had been in 1940. And this low level of private debt helped set the stage for the great postwar boom.

Since nothing like that is on the table, or seems likely to get on the table any time soon, it will take years for families and firms to work off the debt they ran up so blithely. The odds are that the legacy of our time of illusion — our decade at Bernie’s — will be a long, painful slump.
 
GW fucked it up!

In real terms, I think George W. Bush may have been the greatest President for African-Americans, ever!

He puts Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and Kennedy to shame by comparison.

If you're honest about it, it's not hard to see.
 
...but you can't dispute the facts!

Krugman is a self-described liberal. His choice of the book title "The Conscience of a Liberal" is a play on Barry Goldwater's "Conscience of a Conservative".

He has, however, declared himself an ardent supporter of the welfare state. His appointment in the Reagan Administration, he has reiterated in an autobiographical essay, was not expected or fitting.

Krugman was one of several economists who served on a panel that offered Enron executives briefings on economic and political issues. He did this in early 1999, before New York Times rules required him to resign when he accepted an offer to be an op-ed columnist in the fall of 1999. Krugman later stated that he was paid $37,500 for the consulting.


Judging by this man's actions & beliefs. I'm a little, correction very leary of those facts provided.
 
In real terms, I think George W. Bush may have been the greatest President for African-Americans, ever!

He puts Clinton, Carter, LBJ, and Kennedy to shame by comparison.

If you're honest about it, it's not hard to see.

Enlighten me, my dude.
 
Enlighten me, my dude.

If you look at the rise in capital accumulation of the atheletes, entertainers, and business people throughout the 2000s, I don't think any period has been seen like it in the past century and a half among slave descendants.

George Bush made the two highest-profile appointments in the nation's history and it set the stage for the ascendancy of Barack Obama.

You had the success of numerous clothing lines, the destruction of many hyper-dangerous public housing units, and the breaking open of just about all housing markets.

This wasn't seen under any prior President, Democrat or Republican.

Bush, in many ways, was the best President for Africa and African-Americans.

I understand the hate for Bush, but in real terms, he was no enemy (except of course for Katrina :().
 
Krugman is a self-described liberal. His choice of the book title "The Conscience of a Liberal" is a play on Barry Goldwater's "Conscience of a Conservative".

He has, however, declared himself an ardent supporter of the welfare state. His appointment in the Reagan Administration, he has reiterated in an autobiographical essay, was not expected or fitting.

Krugman was one of several economists who served on a panel that offered Enron executives briefings on economic and political issues. He did this in early 1999, before New York Times rules required him to resign when he accepted an offer to be an op-ed columnist in the fall of 1999. Krugman later stated that he was paid $37,500 for the consulting.


Judging by this man's actions & beliefs. I'm a little, correction very leary of those facts provided.

You have thrown around a lot of labels, apparently as slights. Economic liberalism is being proving correct nowadays. Check my Norway post and the standards of living among the middle classes in Canada, Europe and Japan as a whole and then contrast that to the shrinking middles class in the US. But you still haven’t disproved his point. Even today, early June 2009, the stock markets are lower now then they were when GW took the oath in 2001. Where is the wealth creation?

If you look at the rise in capital accumulation of the atheletes, entertainers, and business people throughout the 2000s, I don't think any period has been seen like it in the past century and a half among slave descendants.

George Bush made the two highest-profile appointments in the nation's history and it set the stage for the ascendancy of Barack Obama.

You had the success of numerous clothing lines, the destruction of many hyper-dangerous public housing units, and the breaking open of just about all housing markets.

This wasn't seen under any prior President, Democrat or Republican.

Bush, in many ways, was the best President for Africa and African-Americans.

I understand the hate for Bush, but in real terms, he was no enemy (except of course for Katrina :().

There were many prior pioneering "Black" appointments to the US government which lead to other pioneering "Black" cabinet appointments. If you want to get specific, Kennedy appointed the first "Black" cabinet member, Clinton appointed the most. "Black" folks have seen economic advances every year since we were kidnapped to these shores, in good times and bad. Nobody brought in race. This is another example of conservatives/right wingers playing the race card when they have no other valid argument.
 
You have thrown around a lot of labels, apparently as slights. Economic liberalism is being proving correct nowadays. Check my Norway post and the standards of living among the middle classes in Canada, Europe and Japan as a whole and then contrast that to the shrinking middles class in the US. But you still haven’t disproved his point. Even today, early June 2009, the stock markets are lower now then they were when GW took the oath in 2001. Where is the wealth creation?



There were many prior pioneering "Black" appointments to the US government which lead to other pioneering "Black" cabinet appointments. If you want to get specific, Kennedy appointed the first "Black" cabinet member, Clinton appointed the most. "Black" folks have seen economic advances every year since we were kidnapped to these shores, in good times and bad. Nobody brought in race. This is another example of conservatives/right wingers playing the race card when they have no other valid argument.

Be realistic. Nothing goes straight up or down. The end of Reconstruction saw huge reverses for former slaves and their descendants. While the Great Depression saw massive economic declines in all sectors of the country.

The 70s saw more economic retreats for the country and especially for African-Americans.

Since Reagan, African-Americans have been on this 30 year long advance. But don't act like it has been that way throughout US history.

What we have experienced is an aberration. But, you can't deny the zenith of this African-American ascendancy occurred under George W. Bush.

While whites have seen their standard of living decline, African-Americans have seen increases under the Republican administration from 2001-2009.
 
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