Just the fact s about 50 vs Jay-Z

[nu_work]

I think we all need to remember 50 cent sold 30 million albums in the span of 3 albums and group albums, developed notable rappers such as The Game(2 of the games highest chart singles feature 50 cent),Lloyd Banks, and Young Buck... Jay Z is a great artist, he has 11 number 1 albums, but has only sold a net of 40 million in those 11 albums....and has only had ONE number 1 single in his career(empire state of mind is his first number 1 single in his career).

Although Jay Z has proven to be a great MC, and i admire his work...he gets way too ahead of himself with that whole "sinatra" vibe...he has never been an international artist until marrying Beyonce...and these are just facts people.

And to people who say 50 flopped selling 160 000 first week....Jay Z's artist , Rihanna, did 180 000, with all that publicity around her.....just something to think about ....

I honestly prefer 50 more than Jay.. i no change is natural as a artist...but jay took it to a level where he lost his roots...how is it the only time jay goes to Brooklyn, is with Oprah ? ....

just my thoughts as a hip hop fan.

 

[Blunt]

I think we all need to remember 50 cent sold 30 million albums in the span of 3 albums and group albums, ...

More like 13M.

 

[Darrkman]

I think we all need to remember 50 cent sold 30 million albums in the span of 3 albums and group albums, developed notable rappers such as The Game(2 of the games highest chart singles feature 50 cent),Lloyd Banks, and Young Buck... Jay Z is a great artist, he has 11 number 1 albums, but has only sold a net of 40 million in those 11 albums....and has only had ONE number 1 single in his career(empire state of mind is his first number 1 single in his career).

Although Jay Z has proven to be a great MC, and i admire his work...he gets way too ahead of himself with that whole "sinatra" vibe...he has never been an international artist until marrying Beyonce...and these are just facts people.

And to people who say 50 flopped selling 160 000 first week....Jay Z's artist , Rihanna, did 180 000, with all that publicity around her.....just something to think about ....

I honestly prefer 50 more than Jay.. i no change is natural as a artist...but jay took it to a level where he lost his roots...how is it the only time jay goes to Brooklyn, is with Oprah ? ....

just my thoughts as a hip hop fan.

 

[Bayareabully]

More like 13M.

I think he may be quoting worldwide sales, as opposed to U.S. sales. Im not sure though.

 

[Flawless]

50 cent is desperate, he can only sell reocrds to sheep by trying to pick on peopl and jayz gave him the best insult one can give by ignoring his lame attempts to instigate a rivalry. Jayz has etched his name in hiphop history, I doubt anyone will remember 50 cent in 10 years

 

[donwuan]

Jay makes more from a sale then 50. Jay has Kanye and Rihanna and they out sell everybody on 50s label put together. 50 is done because he has hot hooks but can't rap.

 

[BoyJupiter]

Jay is not going to fight this. He will send a minion.

If your boy *fif* really thinks he'll get a response from Jay....LOL.

Jay is not a fair player. fif understands that. The numbers don't lie, Jay is the shadiest of shades in the rap game. Fif needs to step back and read his own book before he puts himself in a tough spot.

 

[nu_work]

Get Rich Or Die Tryin 12 mil

Massacre 11 mil

Curtis 1.3

G-Unit 1st alb 3.5 2nd Alb 500k

Young Buck 1st Album Platinum

Lloyd Banks 1st Album Platinum

Game 1st Album 5 million

Men Lie Women Lie Numbers Don't.

 

[exiledking]

MC Hammer sold a grip of albums too.

So did Vanilla Ice.

Jay will NEVER sell what 50 sold that one time, as NO ONE will in todays climate, but Jay's career has progressed and remained consistent.

50's career has gone the other way, and he's painted himself into a corner with his insistence on remaining "street" He sold what he sold BECAUSE of artists like Pac, Big, JAY, EM, Dre, and all of the other great artists who brought attention to the artform. That's not to say that he OWES Jay anything, but his style of gangster/former drug dealer rap, Jay helped popularize that.

I wouldn't be annoyed by 50, accept that he ignores all these facts, and has really done all he could to tear down other rappers, from the first popular tune he put out.His numbers are not indicative of the superstar that he once was. I think that says alot about who's paying attention to him nowadays. It indicates that he will probably continue to sell less and less. Jay has sold consitently more, even through a recession.

Rihanna? She should've done more, but she really just didn't match the attention put on her with the right music IMO.

Yeah, 160Kand 180K is good for most artists, but it aint up there with the major players, which 50 once was, and claims to be.


That's like De La Hoya saying he's still a top tier fighter. He just aint no more, but yeah, he made more money than any other boxer out there at one point.

In the music biz, once you aint hot no more, none of what you made before matters


"baby boy ya only funky as ya last cut... ya focus on the past ya ass'll be a has what" (c) Dre 3000

 

[Flawless]

MC Hammer sold a grip of albums too.

So did Vanilla Ice.

Jay will NEVER sell what 50 sold that one time, as NO ONE will in todays climate, but Jay's career has progressed and remained consistent.

50's career has gone the other way, and he's painted himself into a corner with his insistence on remaining "street" He sold what he sold BECAUSE of artists like Pac, Big, JAY, EM, Dre, and all of the other great artists who brought attention to the artform. That's not to say that he OWES Jay anything, but his style of gangster/former drug dealer rap, Jay helped popularize that.

I wouldn't be annoyed by 50, accept that he ignores all these facts, and has really done all he could to tear down other rappers, from the first popular tune he put out.

where is mc hammer and vanilla ice now?

 

[BoyJupiter]

Let's keep it real, now. Jay could spend a quarter of fif's networth just to hire cats that will assasinate his character.

From an audience perspective, it would be like watching a grown man hold the top of an angry 6 year old childs head as he swung punches to no avail.

 

[POSTERBOY]

Get Rich Or Die Tryin 12 mil

Massacre 11 mil

Curtis 1.3

G-Unit 1st alb 3.5 2nd Alb 500k

Young Buck 1st Album Platinum

Lloyd Banks 1st Album Platinum

Game 1st Album 5 million

Men Lie Women Lie Numbers Don't.

yea, but it's hard to take the numbers seriously when they're coming from someone who's clearly down on their knees in front of 1 of the people being debated

 

[SaKem]

I think we all need to remember 50 cent sold 30 million albums in the span of 3 albums and group albums, developed notable rappers such as The Game(2 of the games highest chart singles feature 50 cent),Lloyd Banks, and Young Buck... Jay Z is a great artist, he has 11 number 1 albums, but has only sold a net of 40 million in those 11 albums....and has only had ONE number 1 single in his career(empire state of mind is his first number 1 single in his career).

Although Jay Z has proven to be a great MC, and i admire his work...he gets way too ahead of himself with that whole "sinatra" vibe...he has never been an international artist until marrying Beyonce...and these are just facts people.

And to people who say 50 flopped selling 160 000 first week....Jay Z's artist , Rihanna, did 180 000, with all that publicity around her.....just something to think about ....

I honestly prefer 50 more than Jay.. i no change is natural as a artist...but jay took it to a level where he lost his roots...how is it the only time jay goes to Brooklyn, is with Oprah ? ....

just my thoughts as a hip hop fan.

Rhianna sold 200K

 

[exiledking]

where is mc hammer and vanilla ice now?

that's my point. You can't go back a huge spike and compare it to consistency. Personally, I would take the nubers over 11 albums anyday. Hammer can't GIVE away an album, and it's clear that his career is OVER... that's quite possibly where 50 is now, right over there with his best friend Ja Rule.

But honestly , from where I'm sitting, both of them are successful.

 

[exiledking]

Also, if you prefer 50, that's fine, but don't pretend that either one of them is more "hood" than the other. You don;t know how often Jay goes to BK, or 50 goes to Quessns, and what does that prove to a grown ass man anyway?

 

[mankind]

....and has only had ONE number 1 single in his career(empire state of mind is his first number 1 single in his career)...

I stopped reading after this line. Yes Empire State of Mind is his first number 1 singles but he's had 11 #1 albums, breaking the record previously held by Elvis. (source)

It's cool to have a hit song but I think it says a lot more to have a bangin album.

 

[exiledking]

Jimi Hendrix only had ONE hit song as well

 

[nu_work]

"yea, but it's hard to take the numbers seriously when they're coming from someone who's clearly down on their knees in front of 1 of the people being debated."

Your life really sucks huh? Take Jay-z kilbasa out ya mouth fuk boy.

I could care less about numbers both artist are cool with me,

 

[Blunt]

I think he may be quoting worldwide sales, as opposed to U.S. sales. Im not sure though.

U.S. sales are all that really matter (and are the most reliable to account for). That's what people judge an artist's success on. The rest is gravy.

 

[Flawless]

that's my point. You can't go back a huge spike and compare it to consistency. Personally, I would take the nubers over 11 albums anyday. Hammer can't GIVE away an album, and it's clear that his career is OVER... that's quite possibly where 50 is now, right over there with his best friend Ja Rule.

But honestly , from where I'm sitting, both of them are successful.

so you would rather have 1 really successful hit instead of a successful lengthy career?

 

[Blunt]

Rihanna? She should've done more, but she really just didn't match the attention put on her with the right music IMO.

WTF??? She's been a MONSTER success both with her albums AND singles (5 #1s and 10 Top Tens).

 

[POSTERBOY]

"yea, but it's hard to take the numbers seriously when they're coming from someone who's clearly down on their knees in front of 1 of the people being debated."

Your life really sucks huh? Take Jay-z kilbasa out ya mouth fuk boy.

I could care less about numbers both artist are cool with me,

fam, you obviously do care about homie because you made a thread and you're in here dick riding extra hard, so what's YOUR life like?

thats me giving YOU just the facts

 

[Amajorfucup]

Jimi Hendrix only had ONE hit song as well

Come on man. This sounds like some irrelevant, meaningless, misplaced fact that Cunt would use.

Shits idiotic on so many levels man.

 

[exiledking]

so you would rather have 1 really successful hit instead of a successful lengthy career?

To alleviate the confusion, I would take Jay Z's career over 50's. If those were my choices.

 

[exiledking]

WTF??? She's been a MONSTER success both with her albums AND singles (5 #1s and 10 Top Tens).

ok, I'm just responding to the OP's comparison. I still think she could've done more, given the publicity, but I really don't feel like she's a charity case.

Come on man. This sounds like some irrelevant, meaningless, misplaced fact that Cunt would use.

Shits idiotic on so many levels man.

why? the guy made a point about Jay having only ONE number one hit, as if that is a prerequisite for being a superstar. Jimi is a legend. If Jay NEVER had that #1, he would be a hiphop legend. He's that for other reasons, not his sales. If legends get that title off of sales, then Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Tone Loc, and Young MC are too.

 

[Blunt]

Get Rich Or Die Tryin 12 mil

Massacre 11 mil

Curtis 1.3

Game 1st Album 5 million

More like:

Get Rich Or Die Tryin 6 mil

Massacre 5 mil

Curtis 1.3

Game 1st Album 2 million

 

[Blunt]

ok, I'm just responding to the OP's comparison. I still think she could've done more, given the publicity, but I really don't feel like she's a charity case.

How can she do more than be one of the top 3 or 4 music acts in the world (not to mention a fashion icon and advertising goldmine)??

 

[exiledking]

How can she do more than be one of the top 3 or 4 music acts in the world (not to mention a fashion icon and advertising goldmine)??

Blunt, I've already given you too many seconds of my time. I speculated that she could be even bigger, and you think she couldn;'t, but I'll bite.

How could she top being one of the top 3? by being the THE #1. But she isn't, and AGAIN I say, it's not a big deal. SHe's still immensely succesful, good for her. go rub your pussy and leave me alone

 

[Incarcer8dagain]

how relevant is he? ? ?

 

[Amajorfucup]

why? the guy made a point about Jay having only ONE number one hit, as if that is a prerequisite for being a superstar. Jimi is a legend. If Jay NEVER had that #1, he would be a hiphop legend. He's that for other reasons, not his sales. If legends get that title off of sales, then Hammer, Vanilla Ice, Tone Loc, and Young MC are too.

One of these things is not like the other. I mean, really not like the others. Come on bro, the comparison and grouping is absurd. Even mentioning Hendrixx is ridiculous. Again bro, thats very Cunt like.

 

[exiledking]

One of these things is not like the other. I mean, really not like the others. Come on bro, the comparison and grouping is absurd. Even mentioning Hendrixx is ridiculous. Again bro, thats very Cunt like.

I don't think so, you do. I'll let another reader decide that.

 

[Real1]

Was Game's success really about 50, or more about the return of Dre and the West Coast?

 

[freshnclean]

so you would rather have 1 really successful hit instead of a successful lengthy career?

Depending on the situation. If you own all the royalties to that hit you'll be paid for life something crazy, oppose to dropping mediocre albums with the rights owned by some corporate entity

 

[POSTERBOY]

Was Game's success really about 50, or more about the return of Dre and the West Coast?

you gotta give credit where it's due. game came in riding the g-unit wave and was pretty much instantly popular, no different from drake and young money

 

[34real]

@this back and forth jayz vs 50 is meaningless because its the same dudes in here talking out of their ass about anything but the facts and whats it really all about.

Jay has money,50 has money,their both at the top of their game as far as money for a rapper goes and the public wants the friction between the to for their own personal reason.Most want to see someone,anyone take 50cents down and other want to expose Jay through the new persona he's taking on that some think really isn't him.


@Hammer,Vanilla Ice,Jimi Hendrix...wtf?