Jason Whitlock on Sean Taylor = Great Read

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There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same.

Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death.

The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time.

No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight.

Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long.

When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.

Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working?

About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an alleged injustice the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor.

Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past

No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered.

Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry.

Really?

Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s.

Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees.

But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant.

Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality.

You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change.

Does a Soulja Boy want an education?

HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community.

Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter.

Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it.

According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth.

The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.

The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place — uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep.

In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next

What ya'll think?
 
On point...but folks don't want to hear.

I liken people who disagree with Whitlock and Cosby as those Harriet Tubman used to talk about...

she basically said she could have freed more slaves, if they only knew they were in slavery.

Some people just feel everything is all good in the hood...or its not as bad as people think.

I just don't know what to say to folks like that, its like we are living in different realities.

Only thing that can be done now is those that understand what is going on, like Harriet, do as much to raise our children correctly and maybe help a kid that is not ours along the way...the rest of the ni&&as will have no other choice but to act right.

But we can't rely on them to do it...I know what side I'm on. Hopefully my side outnumber the other.
 
On point...but folks don't want to hear.

I liken people who disagree with Whitlock and Cosby as those Harriet Tubman used to talk about...

she basically said she could have freed more slaves, if they only knew they were in slavery.

Some people just feel everything is all good in the hood...or its not as bad as people think.

I just don't know what to say to folks like that, its like we are living in different realities.

Only thing that can be done now is those that understand what is going on, like Harriet, do as much to raise our children correctly and maybe help a kid that is not ours along the way...the rest of the ni&&as will have no other choice but to act right.

But we can't rely on them to do it...I know what side I'm on. Hopefully my side outnumber the other.

co-shizzle....I heard somewhere that 1500 afro American soldiers have been killed in Iraq. That's a lot of men and women but it pales in comparison to the 10,000 black men killed yearly here in the states....over 9500 were killed by black men. We're living in a war zone here. Time to wake up. Black KKK? It's worse than that babe...I've never been chased by the Klan and had to run for my life :smh:
 
He's right... harsh as usual but right...

Really, no one can really defend hip-hop and even though there are some good hip hop acts like Little Brother, Common and so forth... Americas view on hip hop is negative and it should be since negative hip hop is always out there for niggas to listen too....
 
That's funny. I just posted about it and I think it was rather harsh.


AS A BLACK MAN ALL YOU CAN DO IS AGREE WITH WHITLOCK AS HARD AS IT MAY SEEM TO SWALLOW. FURTHERMORE, FEM, DESPERATE TIMES CALL FOR DESPERATE MEASURES.... IN THE PRESENT DAY AND TIMES WE HAVE LONG BEEN OUR OWN WORST ENEMY. IT IS EITHER YOU SELF-PROGRESS OR DIGRESS WITH THE REST OF YOUR DETRACTORS.

BTW, PROPS ON THE POST BRUH... GOOD ASS READ
 
IDK what to say, I can't blame the Tiger woods of the world, they want nothing to do with black culture due to the image is brings them, they have a point....
 
"there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration."

This happens when you are emotionally tied to anything. Kinda like a bad relationship you are in, but are incapable of breaking free, until the many voices outside of it, snap some sense into you.
 




Whitlock:

"You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change."





So basically his rant boiled down to blame hip-hop.

I keep saying 70% of hip-hop is consumed by white suburban youth.

Why don't we see the same effect?


If hip-hop causes violence, then wherever hip-hop is consumed then violence follows????

Right?


Then he needs to explain why this high rate of violence does NOT occur within the community it is consumed in the most.

If he can't then hip-hop does not cause violence.

There may be a co-relation but it is NOT a casual relationship.


I wish we could understand the difference....................


:cool:
 
DAMN, DAMN, DAMN...where's Florida Evans When ya need her. I remember having a difference of opinion about something this guy wrote, prolly irrelevant, not too long ago, but DAMN if he didn't hit on some points! Black KKK? DAMN! But it's more than that. It's Mike Vick...it's Gena6, it's Juanita Bynum & Rev Meeks, it's Genarlow Wilson, it's Katrina, it's Barry Bonds, it's OJ, it's thug life mentality, it's no snitchin, it's the NBC Nightly News story I saw tonite about the plight of Black women today...seeing the stats & discussing it on BGOL/SOL is one thing...seeing it on the Nightly news is altogether different. It's worse than depressing...All of it. I...WE are being attacked on all fronts. If the physical attacks perpetrated by our own don't get us, the psychological, ones by the media will. At once I'm embarrassed, angry, sick to my stomach, and I've had it up to here!! If you believed in "mass karma" Blacks musta done some terrible shit, in previous lives to deserve the shit that's being piled on us...
 
I liken people who disagree with Whitlock and Cosby as those Harriet Tubman used to talk about...

dont ever compare harriet tubman to whitlock please:smh: if whitlock had been around back then he would have said harriet whitman was a troublemaker who was stealing people's property
 
Whitlock:

"You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change."





So basically his rant boiled down to blame hip-hop.

I keep saying 70% of hip-hop is consumed by white suburban youth.

Why don't we see the same effect?


If hip-hop causes violence, then wherever hip-hop is consumed then violence follows????

Right?


Then he needs to explain why this high rate of violence does NOT occur within the community it is consumed in the most.

If he can't then hip-hop does not cause violence.

There may be a co-relation but it is NOT a casual relationship.


I wish we could understand the difference....................


:cool:

Who buys the records means nothing, hip hop doesn't effect whites nowhere as near as it effect poor niggas in the hood as they can relate with the message being said.

White buys it but often times they never live it, you don't see white people running up on other white people with guns to bring a message unless it's over a large amount of money or women.
 
"But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant."

This should be shouted from the mountain tops from coast to coast for all African-Americans to hear.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
I'd love to whoop Jason's ass however he is absolutely right on this one.
 
This shit sounded like a speech Bill O'Reilly wouldv'e made if he was in harlem... running for president! The problem with Witlock is that he makes remarks about us the way we'd(black folk) talk about us to each other! He's plays that "wake up brotha" card, and makes white folks still believe that we're the problem exclusively and should "get over it". Fuck Him. He knows what he's doing. Getting paid, and that's it! There's no social or moral concern that fuels his words, it's strictly the paper chase.
 
This shit sounded like a speech Bill O'Reilly wouldv'e made if he was in harlem... running for president! The problem with Witlock is that he makes remarks about us the way we'd(black folk) talk about us to each other! He's plays that "wake up brotha" card, and makes white folks still believe that we're the problem exclusively and should "get over it". Fuck Him. He knows what he's doing. Getting paid, and that's it! There's no social or moral concern that fuels his words, it's strictly the paper chase.

Whitlocks leans too hard to one side, crapping on his own people....

The negatives of that is that with all the negative press that black men get we're usually shitted on when it comes to jobs, even the jobs that don't require much education in America that can help someone attain a decent living black men are usually crapped on. Alot of this comes from such a negative image put on blacks..... blacks who shit on blacks don't help that at all.

But honestly, problems are in the black community and I think it's more ignorance related... individuals walking around angry all day ready to pop the first fool to look at them wrong and it's a black thing and not a white thing.

You can say that with poverty comes hatred and anger, since whites don't go through with these issues but something has to be done, if we want our kids to be able to even find a job in 20 years changes have to be made in the black community and fast.

So in short....

1. Whites dislike blacks = true, we are crapped on due to being black and denied opportunity.
2. Blacks are ignorant = true, mostly due to being poor
3. With a negative image, we as a people are shitted on daily and denied opportunity.

So how do we change it? Whites will never budge and let go of the racial hatred they have for us, it's up to us to change our image and kick down that door like the Latinos are doing now.... just ride thru Miami doggy, that's latin's building jobs and opportunity for latins....
 
another hiphop article. i swear he just changes the first graph on every story and the rest stays the same.

this is the same guy that said he was scared of black people walking around in vegas at the allstar game but met up with his boys at a "gentleman's club." i suppose congress was there and they were playing the best of kenny logins for the "ladies."
 
This shit sounded like a speech Bill O'Reilly wouldv'e made if he was in harlem... running for president! The problem with Witlock is that he makes remarks about us the way we'd(black folk) talk about us to each other! He's plays that "wake up brotha" card, and makes white folks still believe that we're the problem exclusively and should "get over it". Fuck Him. He knows what he's doing. Getting paid, and that's it! There's no social or moral concern that fuels his words, it's strictly the paper chase.

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE WHAT WHITE PEOPLE "THINK"?

WHATS MORE IMPORTANT...how you are "viewed" or how you live or in many young black mens case, "die".

IM SICK OF ALL YOU STYLE POINT WITH WHITEY NI&&AS!!!!!!!!

Black folks are dying, and only WE can save them.

Stop fucking caring about what people think...you black race is dying.

Get on the correct side.

I get too emotional over this shit cause I'm close to the Detroit Public School District.

I'm sorry...but someone has to say it, black folks care more about how they are perceived than what actually is.

Fuck that!
 
Sean Taylor's behavior and the events this columnist talks about were things of Sean's past, according to his teammates, family, and friends - basically ANYBODY who really knew him says the same thing. Yes he was immature and did some stupid shit. Don't we all as we grow up? As soon as his daughter was born (a year and a half ago) they say he changed. But nobody seems to be aware of that. He even overhauled his diet and started eating healthy.

otherwise he made some good points in that article. Not sure about that black KKK reference though.
 
Sean Taylor's behavior and the events this columnist talks about were things of Sean's past, according to his teammates, family, and friends - basically ANYBODY who really knew him says the same thing. Yes he was immature and did some stupid shit. Don't we all as we grow up? As soon as his daughter was born (a year and a half ago) they say he changed. But nobody seems to be aware of that. He even overhauled his diet and started eating healthy.

otherwise he made some good points in that article. Not sure about that black KKK reference though.

I know little about Sean Taylor, when they interviewed his highschool and college coaches they were saying how he was real shy and quiet, then i started hearing about all the trouble he's been in so you can never really believe what people say about a person
 
I know little about Sean Taylor, when they interviewed his highschool and college coaches they were saying how he was real shy and quiet, then i started hearing about all the trouble he's been in so you can never really believe what people say about a person

that is true as far as we go, but the people on the redskins and his family are saying these things. Whatever trouble he got into in his old hood probably caught up with him.
 
Whitlock:

"You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change."

So basically his rant boiled down to blame hip-hop.

I keep saying 70% of hip-hop is consumed by white suburban youth.

Why don't we see the same effect?


If hip-hop causes violence, then wherever hip-hop is consumed then violence follows????

Right?


Then he needs to explain why this high rate of violence does NOT occur within the community it is consumed in the most.

If he can't then hip-hop does not cause violence.

There may be a co-relation but it is NOT a casual relationship.


I wish we could understand the difference....................


:cool:


dont ever compare harriet tubman to whitlock please:smh: if whitlock had been around back then he would have said harriet whitman was a troublemaker who was stealing people's property


preach.jpg


To all you Whitlock supporters, if Trent Lott or David Duke said all that shit, would you be all "I hate to say it but he's right??"

FUCK NO.

You MUST consider the source no matter how much the message makes sense. Everybody doesn't have your best interest at heart and I ASSURE you that fuckin' Slobba the Hut bastard does not either.

Jason Whitlock denigrates blacks and magnifies black dysfunction FOR A WHITE AUDIENCE.

This is NOT in the Amsterdam News. NOT in the Chicago Defender. NOT in the Final Call. NOT On Tony Brown or Tavis Smiley or Tom Joyner.

WAKE THE FUCK UP.
 
While there are good points made by Whitlock he lost me when he decided to blame hip-hop for Taylor's death. His death may have been the product of jealousy and envy it may have even been the product of some prior indiscretion but it sure as hell wasn't the product of Soulja Boy. And unfortunately, crime nowadays does check W-2 forms. Just ask Eddy Curry and Antoine Walker who were both targeted because of their wealth.
 
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE WHAT WHITE PEOPLE "THINK"?

WHATS MORE IMPORTANT...how you are "viewed" or how you live or in many young black mens case, "die".

IM SICK OF ALL YOU STYLE POINT WITH WHITEY NI&&AS!!!!!!!!

Black folks are dying, and only WE can save them.

Stop fucking caring about what people think...you black race is dying.

Get on the correct side.

I get too emotional over this shit cause I'm close to the Detroit Public School District.

I'm sorry...but someone has to say it, black folks care more about how they are perceived than what actually is.

Fuck that!

Dude, it ain't about points man, it's about funding, proper policing, and porper education. Something you can't get if you're perceived as an enemy of the state! I never said throw on some tap shoes and act like you care about your people by blaming them for everything from was played on the radio to Sean Taylors death(damn, 24 RIP). But we all interpret things differently.
 
He made some points, none of which are rocket science. What is this fat tub doing to help stop the problem. It is easy to point out a problem, much harder to actually combat it. I hope the overweight man clutching his chest falling to the ground is Jason Whitlock.
 
all of this insight seems to be saved for only black players and coaches..

The decline of the AMERICAN family and marriage has been going down steadily for the last 20 years...across the board. But where is his article on the coach of the eagles Andy Reid? A judge called that mans home a DRUG EMPORIUM and he had two sons going to jail simultaneously and there are younger children in the house YET no article from whitlock addressing how this reflects on the white community. In fact to essay/article/commentary from NO ONE at all on how this makes the white community look. Imagine if Lovie Smith had two sons going to jail and has his home described in such a manner.

And stop connecting every fucking ill to hip hop...that shit is about as played out as some old time preacher connecting crime to the beatles haircuts..

Is black on black crime bad...yes...but all this pontificating is BULLSHIT
 
Sean Taylor's behavior and the events this columnist talks about were things of Sean's past, according to his teammates, family, and friends - basically ANYBODY who really knew him says the same thing. Yes he was immature and did some stupid shit. Don't we all as we grow up? As soon as his daughter was born (a year and a half ago) they say he changed. But nobody seems to be aware of that. He even overhauled his diet and started eating healthy.

otherwise he made some good points in that article. Not sure about that black KKK reference though.
With respect to your points, I think Whitlock isn't blaming Taylor's death on Taylor. He's saying it's the "crabs-in-a-barrel" mentality that too many of us have that can violently pull back a man who tried to make a clean break with his past.
:smh:
 
With respect to your points, I think Whitlock isn't blaming Taylor's death on Taylor. He's saying it's the "crabs-in-a-barrel" mentality that too many of us have that can violently pull back a man who tried to make a clean break with his past.
:smh:

But HE HAS THAT SAME CRABS IN A BARREL MENTALITY! :hmm:

See: Whitlock, Jason; Unprovoked attack on Jackson, Scoop. :smh:
 
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