Israel Kills 60+, at least 37 of them Children- "By Mistake"

Makkonnen

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They already killed more than 600 Lebonese civilians. That one attack by Israel killed more than all of Israel's casualties.


International Herald Tribune
News Analysis: On Arab TV, images of little corpses
By Helene Cooper The New York Times
SUNDAY, JULY 30, 2006
JERUSALEM Amid the diplomatic flurry, calls for a United Nations Security Council resolution and expressions of regret over Israel's bombing of a building in Lebanon, one fact remains: The United States, by not calling for an immediate cease-fire, is giving Israel more time to further degrade Hezbollah in Lebanon.

It is a tricky strategy for the United States because it risks further damaging America's image in the Arab world, where television coverage of dead children being pulled out of the wreckage the bombed building in Qana, Lebanon, dominated the airwaves.

But U.S. officials continue to say that, despite the mounting civilian death toll, an immediate cease-fire would do little good unless the underlying issues, including the ultimate disarmament of Hezbollah, are addressed.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, in the middle of her biggest crisis as America's top diplomat, canceled her planned trip to Beirut on Sunday and will return to the United States on Monday.

A State Department official said Rice would travel to New York on Wednesday or Thursday to push for a Security Council resolution that would include a cease-fire. The contents of the diplomatic package are basically set, and Bush officials said that Rice would lay out its terms on Monday.

Under the proposal, Israel and Lebanon would agree to a cease-fire as part of a larger pact that would include installing 15,000 to 20,000 international peacekeepers throughout southern Lebanon, U.S. and Israeli officials said.

The Lebanese government would work to disband Hezbollah, and the United States and other countries would funnel money and send military officials to help train the Lebanese Army, so that it can work to prevent future attacks on Israel.

Israel would agree to talks on whether it would withdraw from the disputed border territory known as Shabaa Farms, a Hezbollah demand.

"We want the Security Council to take it up soon, and we want the Security Council to take it up with as much concrete progress toward a real ceasefire as is humanly possible by the time that that meeting takes place," Rice said.

She spoke at a hastily called news conference Sunday, just two hours after learning of the bombing at Qana. She appeared shaken, and said she had been informed of the bombing while meeting with the Israeli defense minister, Amir Peretz.

She said she had reiterated to Peretz her "strong concern about the impact of Israeli military operations on innocent civilians," and added that she was "deeply saddened the terrible loss of innocent life."

American officials scrambled to try to counter wrenching television pictures of the devastation at Qana. Immediately after Rice's news conference, State Department officials worked to get coverage of her statement onto Arab television stations, including Al Jazeera, the pan-Arab outlet.

But that job was made more difficult when Israel's prime minister, Ehud Olmert, who met with Rice on Saturday night and again on Sunday, released a statement saying that he had told Rice that Israel needed an additional 10 to 14 days to complete its military aims.

"Do you think that, with the close relationship he has with Bush and Condi, he would go and say something like that without their consent?" a senior Israeli official asked.

The official, who asked that his name not be used because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the issue, said that American diplomats recognized what he called the need for Israeli armed forces to clear out a buffer zone in southern Lebanon before an international peacekeeping force could go in.

Even if Rice does begin work on a Security Council resolution by Thursday, he said, the resolution would probably take days to pass, which would ostensibly give Israel additional time to continue pounding Hezbollah targets in Lebanon.

Rice had been set to travel to Beirut on Sunday afternoon for talks with the Lebanese prime minister, Fouad Siniora, when news of the Qana bombing curtailed her trip. At 8:38 Sunday morning, as Rice and Peretz were meeting in a suite at her hotel in Jerusalem, an assistant secretary of state, David Welch, received an e-mail from Jeffrey Feldman, the U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, alerting him to the bombing.

In the e-mail, Feldman described some of the pictures appearing on television in Lebanon. Welch interrupted the meeting and gave Rice the news, a senior American official said. He said he did not know if Peretz was already aware of it.

Meanwhile, Siniora went on television and demanded an immediate cease-fire, saying he would not hold any talks on resolving the crisis without one.

Rice seemed to go out of her way to take issue over whether Siniora told her she was no longer welcome. She said she had canceled the trip immediately upon learning of the Qana bombing. "I want you to understand something too: I called him and told him that I was not coming today, because I felt very strongly that my work toward a ceasefire is really here, today," she said.

That said, she stopped short of calling for one.




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A lil' off subject...but y' all check the chorus....1


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This wouldn't keep happening if hezbollah would stop using the civillians as human shields and operating out of civilian areas.



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'No Hezbollah Rockets Fired from Qana'

by Dahr Jamail

August 1, 2006
Inter Press Service

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QANA, Aug 1 (IPS) - Red Cross workers and residents of Qana, where Israeli bombing killed at least 60 civilians, have told IPS that no Hezbollah rockets were launched from the city before the Israeli air strike.

The Israeli military has said it bombed the building in which several people had taken shelter, more than half of them children, because the Army had faced rocket fire from Qana. The Israeli military has said that Hezbollah was therefore responsible for the deaths.

"There were no Hezbollah rockets fired from here," 32-year-old Ali Abdel told IPS. "Anyone in this village will tell you this, because it is the truth."

Abdel had taken shelter in a nearby house when the shelter was bombed at 1 am. When the bombings finally let up in the morning, he went back to the bombed shelter to search for relatives.

He found his 70-year-old father and 64-year-old mother both dead inside.

"They bombed it, and afterwards I heard the screams of women, children, and a few men -- they were crying for help. But then one minute after the first bomb, another bomb struck, and after this there was nothing but silence, and the sound of more bombs around the village."

Masen Hashen, a 30-year-old construction worker from Qana who lost several family members in the air strike on the shelter, said there were no Hezbollah rockets fired from his village. "Because if they had done that now, or in the past, all of us would have left. Because we know we would be bombed."

Qana had been a shelter because no rockets were being fired from there, survivors said. "When Hezbollah fires their rockets, everyone runs away because they know an Israeli bombardment will come soon," Abdel said. "That is why everyone stayed in the shelter and nearby homes, because we all thought we'd be all right since there were no Hezbollah fighters in Qana."

Lebanese Red Cross workers in the nearby coastal city of Tyre told IPS that there was no basis for Israeli claims that Hezbollah had launched rockets from Qana.

"We found no evidence of Hezbollah fighters in Qana," Kassem Shaulan, a 28-year-old medic and training manager for the Red Cross in Tyre told IPS at their headquarters. "When we rescue people or recover bodies from villages, we usually see rocket launchers or Hezbollah fighters if they are there, but in Qana I can say that the village was 100 percent clear of either of those."

Another Red Cross worker, 32-year-old Mohammad Zatar, told IPS that "we can tell when Hezbollah has been firing rockets from certain areas, because all of the people run away, on foot if they have to."

While IPS was interviewing people in Qana at the site of the shelter Monday, Israeli warplanes roared overhead. Vibrations from nearby bombing rattled many buildings. At least three villages in southern Lebanon were attacked in Israeli air strikes Monday.

Following the international outcry over the air strike, Israel declared a 48-hour cessation of air strikes in order to carry out a military probe into the Qana killings.

Despite the false Israeli statement that it was halting its air strikes, Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon told Army Radio that the stoppage "does not signify in any way the end to the war."

Israel has rejected mounting international pressure to end the 20-day-old war against Hezbollah. The United Nations has indefinitely postponed a meeting on a new peacekeeping force for southern Lebanon.

While defending the Israeli air strike on the civilians in Qana, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman told the UN Security Council that Qana was "a hub for Hezbollah", and said that Israel had urged villagers to leave.

Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres said in reply to questions in New York Monday that the bombing was "totally, totally its (Hezbollah's) fault."

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New Video Proves Rockets Were Fired from Qana

Ynet has posted a video of rockets being fired from the village of Qana, courtesy of the IDF. As the Washington Times notes:

Israel is being vilified by opportunistic politicians and the international media over the air strike that killed 56 persons early yesterday in the Lebanese village of Qana. In the rush to blame Israel, a number of relevant facts are ignored: 1) the sad fact of the matter is that, no matter how much is done to minimize the risk to civilians, civilians inevitably die in wars; 2) Israel has placed its soldiers at risk in order to minimize civilian casualties in Lebanon, while Hezbollah, in flagrant violation of international law, including the Geneva Conventions, deliberately behaves in ways to maximize harm to Israeli and Lebanese civilians; 3) in Qana there were indisputable military targets, including locations from which Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel; 4) pending the outcome of an investigation, there is no way to tell whether all of those killed in the airstrike were "civilians," as Israel's critics confidently tell us, or whether the dead were actually a mix of combatants and noncombatants.
 
Even More Video Surfaces of Hezbollah Firing Rockets from Civillan Areas.

FOX News obtained the following video from the IDF showing rockets being fired from a building similar to one Israel bombed in retaliation.

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In today's day & age there are rarely any "designated battle grounds"...urban warfare is the reality. At any rate, information from intelligence sources and scouting is a very reliable means of sighting and targeting specific threats. In the case of the Israeli army though, fighting the Hezbollah seems to include any and every area they consider threatning. Excuse me but i am very sympathetic to the indiscriminate killing of sleeping individuals, especially children.
 
I hate this shit. america backs these zionist terrorists and most americans to lazy to read the history of these evil zionist. This is why only america supports israel. Everytime they violate international law only america sticks up for them. If u speak the truth you are an anti semite. Americans don't realize how stupid we look letting our government support israel. The whole world knows about the zionist terror state of israel, its time somebody in america grew balls and tells the truth about these swine.
 
gene cisco said:
I hate this shit. america backs these zionist terrorists and most americans to lazy to read the history of these evil zionist. This is why only america supports israel. Everytime they violate international law only america sticks up for them. If u speak the truth you are an anti semite. Americans don't realize how stupid we look letting our government support israel. The whole world knows about the zionist terror state of israel, its time somebody in america grew balls and tells the truth about these swine.

During a meeting of The Bilderburg group, allegedly European elites asked the American elites who were in attendence: "Why do you fight Israel's wars for them?"

It's amazing that in the midst of a conference for global elites, all of whom are on the same page (pro-globalization and so forth), that there was a brief moment of conflict where one side of the globalists openly criticized the American globalists.
 
European elites disagree with the grand ideas of Bush and Blair & other primarily English speaking nations, take for example, lack of european support for the Iraqi invasion....
 
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European elites disagree with the grand ideas of Bush and Blair & other primarily English speaking nations, take for example, lack of european support for the Iraqi invasion....
its really all just good cop bad cop shit
its not like any european nation is righteous
 
True, true NATO, G8, Bohemian Grove, and that other Binderberg, also how many were chum at the World Cup just kickin' it.
 
Hebrew scribes probably began writing down the text of the Hebrew Bible in the Seventh Century BCE, making use of oral traditions that came from earlier periods. In it there are codes of conduct, ethical guidance, and laws that give us insight into the emergence of ideas of how society can be strengthened to improve the lives of all its members. Within the Bible, the primary sources for early information of this type are the Book of the Covenant in Exodus, Deuteronomy, and the Holiness Code in Leviticus. Exodus may date from the Seventh Century BCE, Deuteronomy from the Sixth Century BCE, and Leviticus from the Fourth Century BCE.

SOURCE: http://www.humanistictexts.org/hebrew_scribes.htm

War

103 When you advance on a city to attack it, make an offer of peace. If city accepts the offer and opens its gates to you, then all the people in it shall be put to forced labour and shall serve you. If it does not make peace with you but offers battle, you shall besiege it . . . You shall put all its males to the sword, but you may take the women, the dependants, and the cattle for yourselves, and plunder everything else in the city. D20: 10-14

104 When you are at war, and lay siege to a city for a long time in order to take it, do not destroy its trees by taking the axe to them, for they provide you with food; you shall not cut them down. The trees of the field are not men that you should besiege them. But you may destroy or cut down any trees that you know do not yield food, and use them in siege-works against the city that is at war with you, until it falls. D20: 19-20

105 When you wage war against your enemy and . . . you take some of them captive, then if you see a comely woman among the captives and take a liking to her, you may marry her. You shall bring her into your house, where she shall shave her head, pare her nails, and discard the clothes which she had when captured. Then she shall stay in your house and mourn for her father and mother for a full month. After that you may have intercourse with her; you shall be her husband and she your wife. But if you no longer find her pleasing, let her go free. You must not sell her, nor treat her harshly, since you have had your will with her. D21 10-14


ALSO, SOME HISTORY...

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Sooner or later the Lebonese people will wake up and realize that their beloved leader is actually a double agent. Planted a long time ago so that they could plan a full scale invasion of this country, for two soldiers, yeah right. Amerikkka has some of the dumbest people in the world, supporting this crap. How do you justify killing hundreds or possibly thousands and losing as many, over two soldiers? Their must be something in the water in this country to support that bulls***. Wow! Just ridiculous.

I hope members of the Lebonese army wake up before their extinct with all of these accidental civilian strikes.

What leader with even a semi-capable military sits and watches as his entire country faces anialation?

There is a new saying from the technocrats.... TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES AND PEOPLE HAVE INTENTIONS.
 
zionist run the media captain and the american people don't have no reason to look deeper.

Look at this shit. When the zionist kill children the media still blames arabs. They kill four UN folks and say oops and its kill if hamas did that shit they would be scum of the earth.

Media control is a muthafucka. Lets not forget how the media say hezbollah started it when indeed the zionist started this shit weeks prior.

They do no wrong in american media and if you point out they killed children you are an ANTI SEMITE.

Can you imagine anybody on a major news network exposing this shit and still having a job???????

One zionist said something like 'one million arab lives are not worth one jewish fingernail'. The zionist are showing that shit aint they.

Let me stop, fucking zionist mossad might have the cigarette smoking man in their pocket and I smell newports.

I'm like moulder but replace the aliens with zionist. I'm gonna find out how deep this goes or disappear trying.
 
Learning to Be Stupid in the Culture of Cash
"I don't read," says a junior . . . in my (Podunk University) "World Literature" class . . .

Geography, history, philosophy, and political science - all missing from their preparation. I realize that my students are, in fact, the oppressed, as Paulo Freire's 'The Pedagogy of the Oppressed' pointed out, and that they are paying for their own oppression. So, I patiently explain: no, our government has not been the friend of democracy in Chile; yes, our government did fund both the coup and the junta torture-machine; yes, the same goes for most of Latin America. Then, one student asks, "Why?" Well, I say, the CIA and the corporations run roughshod over the world in part because of the ignorance of the people of the United States, which apparently is induced by formal education, reinforced by the media, and cheered by Hollywood. . .

. . . this expensive stupidity facilitates US funding of the bloody work of death squads, juntas, and terror regimes abroad. It permits the war we are waging - an unfair, illegal, unjust, illogical, and expensive war, which announces to the world the failure of our intelligence and, by the way, the creeping weakness of our economic system. Every man, woman, and child killed by a bomb, bullet, famine, or polluted water is a murder - and a war crime. And it signals the impotence of American education to produce brains equipped with the bare necessities for democratic survival: analyzing and asking questions. . . Full story: marchforjustice.com chron.com
 
CAPTAIN said:
Sooner or later the Lebonese people will wake up and realize that their beloved leader is actually a double agent. Planted a long time ago so that they could plan a full scale invasion of this country, for two soldiers, yeah right. Amerikkka has some of the dumbest people in the world, supporting this crap. How do you justify killing hundreds or possibly thousands and losing as many, over two soldiers? Their must be something in the water in this country to support that bulls***. Wow! Just ridiculous.

I hope members of the Lebonese army wake up before their extinct with all of these accidental civilian strikes.

What leader with even a semi-capable military sits and watches as his entire country faces anialation?

There is a new saying from the technocrats.... TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES AND PEOPLE HAVE INTENTIONS.
their chrisitian president was giving props to hezbollah the other day- everyone is gettin on the hezbollah party train now
 
When the puppet runs the puppeteer
DAVID HIRST
New Statesman, 12 July 2004

Israel and the United States - For years, America has given almost uncritical financial and diplomatic support to the Jewish state. Will a breaking point come one day?

Some have taken to calling it the "Israelisation of America". It may not be an extravagant term for the extraordinary influence that a small country at the eastern end of the Mediterranean has acquired over the foreign policies of the world's only superpower.

The hold the Israeli protege has over its American patron is rooted in the domestic political clout and dynamism of what, in his book Jewish Power, JJ Goldberg calls "the largest and most powerful Jewish community in history". It is all the more phenomenal in that, before Israel was born, America's six million Jews, a mere 2 per cent of the population, were far from united behind, or even very interested in, ethnocentric political Zionism.

Yet the American public was well-disposed towards Israel from the outset. So potent was the dominant, pro-Israeli orthodoxy to which the intelligentsia, media, academe and opinion-moulders in general subscribed that, according to a dissident Jewish commentator, the late IF Stone, promoting any view that "departs from the Israeli line is about as easy as selling a thoughtful exposition of atheism to the Osservatore Romano in Vatican City".

This is the climate in which American policy-making is shaped. Politicians are under no pressure to address the other side of the equation: the Palestinians' expulsion and their struggle for self-determination. Stephen Green observes, in his book Taking Sides, that "a strong case can be made that Eisenhower was the last American president actually to make US Middle East policy [rather than] Israel and the friends of Israel in America".

Despite occasional, short-lived bouts of official American "even-handedness", this partisanship has intensified with time, and with the evolution of the conflict on the ground. Since 1977, ultra-nationalist Likud has enjoyed long spells in office, and its kindred spirits in religious guise have emerged as a powerful new force on the political stage.

In Washington DC, too, the "friends of Israel" have been growing more extreme, gaining increasing sway. If their influence over the media has remained static, or even declined, they have more than made up for it in both the legislative and executive branches of government.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the most formidable weapon in the Jewish lobby's arsenal of political persuasion, has so mastered Congress that, according to William B Quandt, a former member of the National Security Council, "70 to 80 per cent of its members will go along with whatever they think AIPAC wants". One thing it wanted was an unceasing flow of aid; this became such a cornucopia that, over the years, for every dollar America has spent on an African, it has spent $250 on every citizen of a country whose standard of living has long since come to rival affluent Europe's.

For the past quarter-century, America has been giving Israel about $3bn (£1.6bn) a year, usually 60 per cent of it in military aid and 40 per cent in economic aid, though the proportion of military aid is fast increasing. Altogether, America has given Israel well over $90bn (£49bn) since the state was founded. On top of the yearly grant, transferred in a handy lump sum at the beginning of the fiscal year, Israel gets almost as much again in hidden benefits: military support from the defence budget, forgiven loans and special grants. None of this is ever questioned by Congress.

No less important is the demand for America's unconditional diplomatic support in every contingency. For 35 years, said Paul Findley, a legislator whom "the lobby" drove from office, Congress has behaved "like a subcommittee of the Israeli parliament" where "criticism of Israel, even in private conversation, is all but forbidden, treated as downright unpatriotic, if not anti-Semitic".

Another powerful lobby machine, the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organisations, concentrates on the executive. There, mainly in the guise of the neoconservatives, the friends of Israel have reached their apogee. This can be measured by their sheer numerical strength within the administration as well as by the closeness of their ideological, institutional and personal ties not merely with Israel, but with the Israel of Ariel Sharon and his Likud party. On top of this comes, more or less unanticipated, but huge, the bonus of recent times: the rise of evangelical fundamentalists who believe that an expanding and militant Israel, at war with the Muslim anti-Christ, is a necessary prelude to the Second Coming. Whether or not George W Bush, too, actually believes this, he and his party chiefs zealously woo the evangelicals as a vital component of his Republican power base.

Time and again, the US president has acquiesced in the latest actions of Israel's prime minister. In 2002, immediately after Sharon launched his military onslaught on the West Bank, Bush called on him to withdraw his troops. But after the neo-cons, the lobby and the evangelicals staged a combined show of force in Washington, DC, the president ended up by inviting Sharon to the White House, famously calling him a "man of peace". Bush's greatest favour to Sharon came earlier this year: when he accepted the prime minister's plan for withdrawing from Gaza, he also accepted that Israeli settlement in the West Bank had changed the political situation. This went against countless United Nations resolutions and, in effect, put the United States behind Sharon's expansionist designs for a Greater Israel.

Even so, there has always been, as there was always bound to be, a conflict of interest between the patron and the most imperious of its proteges. This conflict, ever latent, sometimes apparent, is ultimately as profound as the friendship required to mask or minimise it is strong. If the conflict gets out of hand, who, in this very special relationship, will prevail? Logically, given the immeasurable disparity of power, it can only be America. But there will be a mighty struggle before it does.
 
Old story, nonetheless...

UN warns Israel over torture reports
By the BBC's Emma Jane Kirby in Geneva

The United Nations Committee Against Torture, has warned Israel that it has several concerns about the interrogation methods used by the Israeli Security Agency against Palestinian detainees.

No exceptional circumstances can be invoked as justification for torture.

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Committee Against Torture

In its concluding report on Israel, the Committee also said it was unhappy with reports of torture and ill treatment towards Palestinian minors.

The Committee, which is made up of 10 independent experts, said it was worried about methods allegedly used by the Israeli Security Forces which include sleep-deprivation and the use of incommunicado detention for both Palestinian adults and children.

Experts also noted that there had been very few prosecutions against alleged perpetrators of torture and that there were several reported instances of "extra-judicial killings".

'No justification'

Israel's ambassador, Yaakov Levy, who has been defending his country's record, maintained that Israel's security forces did not use interrogation methods which amounted to torture and he added that Israel was being forced to fight "terrorism" with its "hands tied behind its back."

Mr Levy denied the charges.

The Committee acknowledged Israel's security concerns in the West Bank and Gaza Strip during the latest upsurge of fighting but said that "no exceptional circumstances" justified torture.

In view of the reports, the Committee recommended that the Israeli Government take all necessary steps to prevent such abuses and "to institute effective complaint and investigative mechanisms."

It also urged Israel to review its laws and policies to ensure that all detainees were brought quickly before a judge and ensured prompt access to lawyers.

Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1672786.stm
 
Makkonnen said:
where are you getting the number 28 for qana? cnn?
just peeped that

From Monsters and Critics.com

Middle East News
Annan: Civilian deaths in Lebanon and Israel should be probed
By DPA
Aug 8, 2006, 19:00 GMT

New York - Attacks that killed civilians in both Lebanon and Israel should be fully investigated as possible violations of international humanitarian law and human rights, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said Tuesday.

Annan told the United Nations Security Council that the current war between Israel and the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah has affected both Israeli and Lebanese civilians to a degree that requires further investigation.

'I have repeatedly condemned all actions that target civilians, and I again call on all parties to the conflict to respect their obligations under international humanitarian law, and in particular to take all necessary precautions to spare civilian life and property,' he said.

Annan's remarks were made following publication at UN headquarters in New York of a report on a July 30 Israeli airstrike against the Lebanese town of Qana, where dozens of civilians including numerous children were killed.

The 15-nation Security Council condemned the Qana airstrike and demanded an investigation.

Annan said that the attack against Qana should be taken in a 'broader context' in the Middle East conflict, which, based on eyewitnesses and preliminary information obtained by the UN, would show a pattern of violations of international law committed during the current hostilities.

Israel said it bombed Qana because it was a centre for Hezbollah, had large stores of weapons and was a 'haven for fleeing terrorists and the source of over 150 missiles launched into northern Israel.'

Beirut said that 28 bodies have been found in Qana since the Israeli raid, including 14 children. The Lebanese Red Cross Society said there were 19 children among the 28 dead. Recovery efforts were still underway, and the number of dead may rise, the UN said.

The UN said that the civilian death toll through Saturday was 933 Lebanese and 35 Israelis.

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When the puppet runs the puppeteer
DAVID HIRST
New Statesman, 12 July 2004

Israel and the United States - For years, America has given almost uncritical financial and diplomatic support to the Jewish state. Will a breaking point come one day?

Some have taken to calling it the "Israelisation of America". It may not be an extravagant term for the extraordinary influence that a small country at the eastern end of the Mediterranean has acquired over the foreign policies of the world's only superpower.

The hold the Israeli protege has over its American patron is rooted in the domestic political clout and dynamism of what, in his book Jewish Power, JJ Goldberg calls "the largest and most powerful Jewish community in history"...... .

<FONT FACE="GEORGIA" size="3" COLOR="#000000">This article just covers the basics of how the right-wing Jews of ISRAEL in conjunction with their American Neo-Con associates have completely "HIJACKED" the United States of America's international relations & foreign policy. It's stunning!!!........but due to major media censorship, most US citizens are clueless of the extent of Israel's Machiavellian takeover of US foreign policy. If you dare say anything you are immediately called an anti-semite. If you are a Jew you are called a-self-hating-Jew. The details of Israel's ridiculous domination of US international relations & foreign policy is meticulously detailed in the report - THE-ISRAEL-LOBBY-AND-U.S.-FOREIGN-POLICY by

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This report was attacked by the "faith based" & "facts-don't-matter" Israeli zionist who don't want the world to know the details of their ridiculous control of US international relations & foreign policy........but among the "reality based" community their is NO denial of the facts this report lays out. As the report it self says on page 3

...Some-readers-will-find-this-analysis-disturbing,-but-the-facts-recounted-here-are-not-in-serious-dispute-among-scholars.--Indeed,-our-account-relies-heavily-on-the-work-of-Israeli-scholars-and-journalists,-who-deserve-great-credit-for-shedding-light-on-these-issues.--We-also-rely-on-evidence-provided-by-respected-Israeli-and-international-human-rights-organizations.--Similarly,-our-claims-about-the-Lobby’s-impact-rely-on-testimony-from-the-Lobby’s-own-members,-as-well-as-testimony-from-politicians-who-have-worked-with-them.--Readers-may-reject-our-conclusions,-of-course,-but-the-evidence-on-which-they-rest-is-not-controversial...

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Israel is committing 'war crimes'.
The whole world is watching.
Despite the best efforts of their skilled propaganda teams, the blood soaked dead bodies of primarily women & children, killed with US made & paid for, -'precision guided??'- cluster bombs are revealing, even to the most steadfast supporters of Israel, the naked hatred of the Israeli right-wing, who are the architects of this total destruction of Lebanon.

They are bombing and killing unarmed United Nations workers, they are bombing and killing unarmed Red Cross workers, they are bombing and killing unarmed 'doctors-without-borders' workers; all in the name of destroying Hezbollah.

As the Israeli press has pointed out, old man Sharon would-of-never authorized this vicious assault on Lebanon if he were not in a coma. There would of been a prisoner exchange, and the low level conflict along the border would have continued. Over a thousand Lebanese and dozens of Israeli's wouldn't be dead. Furthermore the roots of this imbroglio go back decades as George Galloway points out as he talks to one of Rupert Murdoch's clueless reporters on Sky News. Watch the clip and you will see something you will never see on American television. What is it?? You will see truth telling about Israel's nefarious wickedness.</font>

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08/08/06 "The Guardian" -- -- Whatever we think of Israel's assault on Lebanon, all of us seem to agree about one fact: that it was a response, however disproportionate, to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah. I repeated this "fact" in my last column, when I wrote that "Hizbullah fired the first shots". This being so, the Israeli government's supporters ask peaceniks like me, what would you have done? It's an important question. But its premise, I have now discovered, is flawed.

Since Israel's withdrawal from southern Lebanon in May 2000, there have been hundreds of violations of the "blue line" between the two countries. The United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) reports that Israeli aircraft crossed the line "on an almost daily basis" between 2001 and 2003, and "persistently" until 2006. These incursions "caused great concern to the civilian population, particularly low-altitude flights that break the sound barrier over populated areas". On some occasions, Hizbullah tried to shoot them down with anti-aircraft guns.
In October 2000, the Israel Defence Forces shot at unarmed Palestinian demonstrators on the border, killing three and wounding 20. In response, Hizbullah crossed the line and kidnapped three Israeli soldiers. On several occasions, Hizbullah fired missiles and mortar rounds at IDF positions, and the IDF responded with heavy artillery and sometimes aerial bombardment. Incidents like this killed three Israelis and three Lebanese in 2003; one Israeli soldier and two Hizbullah fighters in 2005; and two Lebanese people and three Israeli soldiers in February 2006. Rockets were fired from Lebanon into Israel several times in 2004, 2005 and 2006, on some occasions by Hizbullah. But, the UN records, "none of the incidents resulted in a military escalation".

On May 26 this year, two officials of Islamic Jihad - Nidal and Mahmoud Majzoub - were killed by a car bomb in the Lebanese city of Sidon. This was widely assumed in Lebanon and Israel to be the work of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency. In June, a man named Mahmoud Rafeh confessed to the killings and admitted that he had been working for Mossad since 1994. Militants in southern Lebanon responded, on the day of the bombing, by launching eight rockets into Israel. One soldier was lightly wounded. There was a major bust-up on the border, during which one member of Hizbullah was killed and several wounded, and one Israeli soldier wounded. But while the border region "remained tense and volatile", Unifil says it was "generally quiet" until July 12.

There has been a heated debate on the internet about whether the two Israeli soldiers kidnapped by Hizbullah that day were captured in Israel or in Lebanon, but it now seems pretty clear that they were seized in Israel. This is what the UN says, and even Hizbullah seems to have forgotten that they were supposed to have been found sneaking around the outskirts of the Lebanese village of Aita al-Shaab. Now it simply states that "the Islamic resistance captured two Israeli soldiers at the border with occupied Palestine". Three other Israeli soldiers were killed by the militants. There is also some dispute about when, on July 12, Hizbullah first fired its rockets; but Unifil makes it clear that the firing took place at the same time as the raid - 9am. Its purpose seems to have been to create a diversion. No one was hit.

But there is no serious debate about why the two soldiers were captured: Hizbullah was seeking to exchange them for the 15 prisoners of war taken by the Israelis during the occupation of Lebanon and (in breach of article 118 of the third Geneva convention) never released. It seems clear that if Israel had handed over the prisoners, it would - without the spillage of any more blood - have retrieved its men and reduced the likelihood of further kidnappings. But the Israeli government refused to negotiate. Instead - well, we all know what happened instead. Almost 1,000 Lebanese and 33 Israeli civilians have been killed so far, and a million Lebanese displaced from their homes.

On July 12, in other words, Hizbullah fired the first shots. But that act of aggression was simply one instance in a long sequence of small incursions and attacks over the past six years by both sides. So why was the Israeli response so different from all that preceded it? The answer is that it was not a reaction to the events of that day. The assault had been planned for months.

The San Francisco Chronicle reports that "more than a year ago, a senior Israeli army officer began giving PowerPoint presentations, on an off-the-record basis, to US and other diplomats, journalists and thinktanks, setting out the plan for the current operation in revealing detail". The attack, he said, would last for three weeks. It would begin with bombing and culminate in a ground invasion. Gerald Steinberg, professor of political science at Bar-Ilan University, told the paper that "of all of Israel's wars since 1948, this was the one for which Israel was most prepared ... By 2004, the military campaign scheduled to last about three weeks that we're seeing now had already been blocked out and, in the last year or two, it's been simulated and rehearsed across the board".

A "senior Israeli official" told the Washington Post that the raid by Hizbullah provided Israel with a "unique moment" for wiping out the organisation. The New Statesman's editor, John Kampfner, says he was told by more than one official source that the US government knew in advance of Israel's intention to take military action in Lebanon. The Bush administration told the British government.

Israel's assault, then, was premeditated: it was simply waiting for an appropriate excuse. It was also unnecessary. It is true that Hizbullah had been building up munitions close to the border, as its current rocket attacks show. But so had Israel. Just as Israel could assert that it was seeking to deter incursions by Hizbullah, Hizbullah could claim - also with justification - that it was trying to deter incursions by Israel. The Lebanese army is certainly incapable of doing so. Yes, Hizbullah should have been pulled back from the Israeli border by the Lebanese government and disarmed. Yes, the raid and the rocket attack on July 12 were unjustified, stupid and provocative, like just about everything that has taken place around the border for the past six years. But the suggestion that Hizbullah could launch an invasion of Israel or that it constitutes an existential threat to the state is preposterous. Since the occupation ended, all its acts of war have been minor ones, and nearly all of them reactive.

So it is not hard to answer the question of what we would have done. First, stop recruiting enemies, by withdrawing from the occupied territories in Palestine and Syria. Second, stop provoking the armed groups in Lebanon with violations of the blue line - in particular the persistent flights across the border. Third, release the prisoners of war who remain unlawfully incarcerated in Israel. Fourth, continue to defend the border, while maintaining the diplomatic pressure on Lebanon to disarm Hizbullah (as anyone can see, this would be much more feasible if the occupations were to end). Here then is my challenge to the supporters of the Israeli government: do you dare to contend that this programme would have caused more death and destruction than the current adventure has done?
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The Israeli offensive has killed more than 1,181 Lebanese civilians, 30% of them children under 12, left much of Lebanon’s infrastructure in ruins and displaced nearly a million others, sparking what aid agencies describe as a humanitarian crisis.

Some 116 Israelis, mostly soldiers, have also been killed.

UN officials say more than 200,000 displaced people have returned to southern Lebanon, adding that an equal number of people also returned to their homes in the heavily bombed southern suburbs of Beirut.

"There has been a phenomenal return of the displaced Lebanese to their homes,” said the UN High Commissioner for Refugees spokeswoman Jennifer Pagonis.

She added that about 107,000 people, who fled Lebanon to Syria, have also returned to the war-torn country.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12333

Well then, guess who is on the offensive now... :D
 
The Israeli offensive has killed more than 1,181 Lebanese civilians, 30% of them children under 12, left much of Lebanon’s infrastructure in ruins and displaced nearly a million others, sparking what aid agencies describe as a humanitarian crisis.

Some 116 Israelis, mostly soldiers, have also been killed.

UN officials say more than 200,000 displaced people have returned to southern Lebanon, adding that an equal number of people also returned to their homes in the heavily bombed southern suburbs of Beirut.

"There has been a phenomenal return of the displaced Lebanese to their homes,” said the UN High Commissioner for Refugees spokeswoman Jennifer Pagonis.

She added that about 107,000 people, who fled Lebanon to Syria, have also returned to the war-torn country.

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=12333

Well then, guess who is on the offensive now... :D
 
Someone asked why the US support Israel so unconditionally, even with their questionable practices.
Well, I got a theory and you can tell me what ya'll think.
Let's start with some premisses principles that we can all agree on...
1. Christians hate jews
2. Jews hate everything that is NOT jewish.
3. Both Christian and Jews hate arabs (or anything that's not white).

Now, a partnership between Christian and Jews to piss on the Arabs makes perfect sense and beside with, Israel , the US has it's own little state over there to ''keep an eye'' over what's going in the Mid. E.

Now the US wants Israel to be expanded, secured and powerful....not because they like Jews...but simply because they hate them and doesn't want them on their soil.
Now picture this,....Israel goes to war, get its ass kicked and gets occupied by .....let's say Iran ( NOW there would be an exodus...and WHERE WOULD ALL THE JEWS GO?????)
AFRICA?
EUROPE?
or AMERIKKKA??

SO all this mumbo jumbo that your white christian politicians are saying to defend Israel no matter what...it's all bullshit.

Now in this is the second scenario....Israel keep acting agressively with its neighbors...and expand itself...get an ever bigger piece of land and secure the place....
now some jewish people so far hesitant to go live there might finally decide to go back for real.
Now your leaders get what they want...
less jews in amerikkka....and
more dead arabs.
 
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Left in Lebanon: A Million Bomblets</font>

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October 5, 2006

BEIRUT</b> Since the war with Israel ended in August, nearly three people have been wounded or killed each day by cluster bombs Israel dropped in the waning days of the fighting, and officials now say it will take more than a year to clear the region of them.

UN officials estimate that southern Lebanon is littered with 1 million unexploded bomblets, far outnumbering the 650,000 people living in the region. They are stuck in the branches of olive trees and the broad leaves of banana trees. They are on rooftops, mixed in with rubble, littered across fields, farms, driveways, roads and outside schools.

As of Sept. 28, the last date available, officials here said that cluster bombs had severely injured 109 people and killed 18 others.

Muhammad Hassan Sultan, a slender brown-haired 12-year-old became a post-war casualty last week when the shrapnel from a cluster bomb cut into his head and neck.
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He was from Sawane, a hillside village with a panoramic view of terraced olive farms and rolling hills. Muhammad was sitting on a hip-high wall, watching a bulldozer clear rubble, when the machine bumped into a tree.

A flash of a second later, Muhammad was fatally wounded when a cluster bomblet dropped from the branches.

"I took Muhammad to the hospital in my car, but he was already dead," said Yousef Ftouni, a resident of the village.

The entire village was littered with these bomblets, and as Ftouni recounted Muhammad's death, the Lebanese Army worked its way through an olive grove, blowing up unexploded munitions in a painfully slow process of clearance.
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Officials calculated that if they are lucky, and funding from international donors does not run out, it would take 15 months to clear the area.

There are now about 300 Lebanese Army troops and 30 other clearance teams, each of up to 30 experts, working on the problem of unexploded bomblets.

The United Nations' mine action coordination center in southern Lebanon recorded 745 locations across the south where unexploded bombs were found. Of the million estimated to be scattered around, so far 4,500 have been disposed of, according to the center.

"Our priority at the moment is to clean houses, main roads and gardens so that the displaced people can return to their villages," said Colonel Mohammad Fahmy, head of the national de-mining office. "The next stage will be cleaning agricultural lands."

Cluster bombs are legal if aimed at military targets and very effective, military experts say.

Nonetheless, Israel has been heavily criticized, by UN officials, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch for using cluster bombs because they are difficult to drop and scatter exclusively on military targets.

Israel was also criticized because it fired most of its cluster bombs in the last days of the war, when the Security Council was negotiating a resolution to end the conflict.

In Lebanon, there are two explanations of why Israel unleashed cluster bombs at that late date: Because the war was ending and the military wanted to inflict as much damage as possible on Hezbollah, or to litter the south with unexploded cluster bombs as a strategy to keep people from returning right away.

The United States says it is investigating whether Israel's use of cluster bombs violated a secret agreement which restricted when they could be used.

In Israel, the view is different.

The final days of the war - a conflict that began when Hezbollah lobbed rockets into northern Israel and sent fighters across the border to capture Israeli soldiers - witnessed a huge Israeli offensive. Israel hoped its final push would, in part, help force the Security Council to adopt a tougher resolution on Hezbollah than appeared to be taking shape.

Israel has also said that it scattered areas with leaflets before bombing, and that it provided Lebanon with maps of potential cluster bomb locations to help with the clearing process.

UN officials in Lebanon say the maps are useless and they charge that Israel refuses to turn over more precise information.

An Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, published an article last month anonymously quoting the head of a rocket unit who was critical of the decision to use cluster bombs.

"What we did was insane and monstrous; we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," Haaretz reported a head of a military rocket unit in Lebanon as saying in its Sept. 12 edition.

Repeated efforts by The Times to get Israeli officials to explain the rationale behind the use of the bombs have proved fruitless, with spokesmen referring all queries to short official statements arguing that everything done conformed with international law.

In Lebanon, the problem of the unexploded munitions is magnified by the desire to return to villages and lives in a region that is effectively booby-trapped. People want to begin rebuilding and harvest their crops. In some cases, they have tried to clear the bomblets themselves, and some people have begun charging a small fee to clear away bombs, a practice which officials have discouraged as dangerous.

But the people are desperate.

"If I lost the season for olives and the wheat, I have no money for the winter," said Rida Noureddine, 54, who farms a small patch of land on the main road in the village of Kherbit Salem.

There was a small black object at the entrance to his farm, and he thought it was a cluster bomb.

"I feel as if someone has tied my arms, or is holding me by my neck, suffocating me because this land is my soul," he said after waving down a car flying a UN flag to ask for help.

Cluster bombs, or the bomblets about the size of a D-battery, can be packed into bombs, missiles or artillery shells. When the delivery system detonates, the bomblets are spread like buckshot across a large area, making them difficult to aim with precision.

According to a fact sheet issued by the UN mine action coordination center in southern Lebanon, cluster bombs have an official failure rate of 15 percent.

That means that 15 percent of the bomblets - a name that speaks only to size and not maiming power - remain as hazards across the targeted area.

According to the fact sheet, the failure rate in this war is estimated to be around 40 percent.

"We estimate there are one million," said Dalya Farran, the community liaison officer of the mine action center.

Farran has worked at the center for nearly three years. It was set up in 2000 to help deal with the mines and unexploded ordinances left behind after the Israeli occupation of the south, and from other wars.

Farran dispenses details about bombs and mines as though she were reading a grocery list.

After this war, she said, there are two types of cluster bombs across the south. The most commonly found bomblets are known as M42, a device deceptively small, resembling a light socket.

She said a large percentage of the unexploded bomblets are American made, while some were produced in Israel. Each one has a white tail dangling off the back, like the tail of a kite. As they fall to the ground, the tail spins and unscrews the firing pin.

When the device hits, the front end fires a huge slug - while the casing blasts apart into a spray of deadly metal fragments.

When they don't detonate, they cling to the ground, and with their white tails look deceptively like toys, and so children are often most often injured.

"This is what they are living with everyday," said Simon Lovell, a supervisor with one of the clearance teams as he looked at five unexploded bomblets poking out of the soft, rocky soil of the Hussein's family farm.

Across the street, Hussein Muhammad, 48, at home with his wife and four children, waited for the clearance team. His olive trees were heavy with fruit but he could not tend to the harvest.

"I feel that the land has become my enemy," he said. "It represents a danger to my life and my kids' lives."

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Lebanon war probe slams Olmert
Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:30PM EDT

By Jeffrey Heller

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A panel probing the conduct of Israel's war in Lebanon last year scathingly criticized Ehud Olmert on Monday but the prime minister said he would not resign but work instead to put right mistakes.

Olmert "made up his mind hastily" to launch the campaign last July against Hezbollah guerrillas, the government-appointed panel said in an interim report, accusing him of "a serious failure in exercising judgment, responsibility and prudence".

His declared aims in going to war, to free two soldiers seized by Hezbollah and crush the militant group, were "overly ambitious and impossible to achieve", the Winograd commission said of a 34-day conflict many Israelis now see as a mistake.

The two soldiers are still missing and 158 Israelis were killed, including 41 civilians caught in rocket strikes. Some 1,200 people died in Lebanon, including about 900 civilians.

A snap Israel Radio poll said 69 percent of the public believed he should quit. But a defiant Olmert went on television to tell Israelis:

"It would not be right to quit and I have no intention of doing so ... This government made the decisions and this government will deal with correcting the defects.

"I plan to act to correct all that needs fixing thoroughly and fast," added Olmert, a veteran of many governments who heads a broad parliamentary coalition. He has no clear challenger for now and said this month he was "indestructible".

The 232-page report also sharply criticized Defense Minister Amir Peretz, who like Olmert does not have a military pedigree, and the armed forces' chief of staff, who has resigned.

Hezbollah fired 4,000 rockets into Israel during the fighting, forcing a million residents into shelters in a blow to the Middle East's mightiest military. Israel sent warplanes to bomb in southern Beirut neighborhoods, Hezbollah strongholds.

STIR SENTIMENT

The report, assigning Olmert "supreme and comprehensive responsibility" for government decisions and army operations, seemed likely to stir public sentiment against him.

His approval ratings plunged to single digits after the inconclusive war and a U.S.-initiated dialogue between the Israeli leader and moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has shown few results.

Olmert has said the war improved Israel's security by banishing Hezbollah from its frontier strongholds and boosting a U.N. peacekeeper force in southern Lebanon.

A Hezbollah official said the report confirmed the group's "divine victory", while the Shi'ite Islamist party's television station said: "The heads of Olmert and Peretz have been placed on the guillotine. All that's left is for their heads to roll."

An Israeli rally calling for Olmert and his government to quit is planned for Thursday in Tel Aviv. The demonstration is organized by a former general, military reservists who fought in the war and parents of soldiers killed in the conflict.

Israeli political analysts, however, were divided over whether such protests would gather steam in a country where years of corruption scandals at the top seem to have led many to believe no worthy leaders wait in the wings to take charge.

The panel has not ruled out calling for Olmert or Peretz to step down in a final report due to be published in a few months.

The White House declined to comment on the findings but said U.S. President George W. Bush works closely with Olmert and considers him "essential in working toward a two-state solution" in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Saeb Erekat, a senior Abbas aide, described the war inquiry as an internal Israeli affair.

(Additional reporting by Allyn Fisher-Ilan and Corinne Heller)
 
And what about the body count for Israeli children?

The Lebanese government or the Palestinian authorities have the responsibility to prevent the lunching of katyusha rockets and homicide attacks from with in the areas they govern. So far that have shown little inters in policing their boarders.

Israel had a responsibility to it's citizens to respond to such hostile actions

A buffer zone between Israel, the Lebanese and the Palestinians is needed.

Until a political settlement is agreed to and enforced by all parties
more innocent children will die.

It is clear that militias in Palestine and Lebanon do not want to see a political settlement.

With a Palestinian civil war brewing and political discourse deepening in Lebanon,
a political solution will be hard to up obtain.

The US must support Israel and well continue to do so.
 
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