Is Obama Really the Liberal Reagan?

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Senator Obama holds a rally at the University of Maryland, the day before the Potomac
Primary. (Jim Lo Scalzo for USN&WR)


James Pethokoukis
February 12, 2008

Is Barack Obama, the "change" candidate, really a pragmatist, albeit a liberal one? Is he a guy who, if elected as our 44th president, might compromise with Republicans on key issues as he begins to "heal the nation"? Here is the case I've tried to make, though I'm not fully convinced myself:

1) Obama has surrounded himself with centrist economic advisers, like the frustratingly reasonable Austan Goolsbee of the University of Chicago. Former Fed chief Paul Volcker is also a supporter.

2) Obama seems skeptical that we can somehow "stop globalization" by pulling out of NAFTA or the World Trade Organization. Better to cut smart trade deals and help displaced workers.

3) Obama's healthcare plan is more cautious than Hillary's, with no mandate to buy coverage. And no single-payer Kucinich kind of deal—at least not yet.

4) Obama has resisted the temptation to call for an interventionist mortgage rate freeze or a moratorium on resets, as Hillary did, to help homeowners. Instead, he favors tax credits.

Now, you may not buy any of this, especially given Obama's rating as the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate. My friend Larry Kudlow sure doesn't seem to. As he wrote yesterday over at the Corner on the National Review website:

The Wall Street Journal's Steve Moore says Obama's tax plan would add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax. In other words, Sen. Obama is a very-high-tax candidate.... Interestingly, at least two of Obama's top economic advisors—Austan Goolsbee and Jeffrey Liebman—are highly regarded free-market economists.... But somehow their candidate has a very punitive high-tax campaign plan for the economy.​
I would say a few things in response:

1) Yes, Obama is for raising income-tax rates on wealthier Americans. But that, along with advocating greater government involvement in healthcare, was the admission ticket to the Democratic primaries. And his tax plan does cut taxes for the middle class as well as make filing easier. It does, though, seem to completely ignore the effects of taxes on economic growth and productivity.

2) Yes, Obama wants to raise payroll taxes. But he's actually a bit of a maverick in this since it's the semiofficial Democratic line that Social Security is not really in crisis.

3) Ultimately, I think it might boil down to how big a congressional majority Obama would have to work with—and to pressure him—and what kind of person he is. If there's a Democratic landslide in November, would Obama use that electoral edge to push through all those huge tax increase and spending proposals without any GOP votes—as Clinton did with his tax hikes in 1993? Or would he attempt to compromise?

4) President Obama would come into office facing a $400 billion budget deficit and the prospect of huge future deficits because of Social Security and Medicare. I think that factor alone may turn Obama into an incrementalist on domestic policy, perhaps even fighting his own party to keep down spending, as did Jimmy Carter. Clinton got lucky in that regard by getting a Republican Congress that also wanted to balance the budget.

5) I wonder what Obama voters are really voting for? They want the United States out of Iraq, to be sure. But what beyond that? Well, consider this: I've heard Obama supporters say that Obama will be "their Reagan." That's interesting because whenever Democrats compliment our 41st president, they almost always focus on his personality (infectious optimism and generous spirit) rather than policy (slashing taxes and confronting the Evil Empire). But do voters have any expectations beyond Obama's optimism and his vow to bring America together? Are all those young voters, independents, and frustrated Republicans really voting for greater government involvement in the healthcare system and huge tax increases—in essence, Reaganomics in reverse? People knew what they were getting when they voted for Reagan. Obama? I'm not so sure.


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Maybe so. What I took from the Reagan years is that people want leaders, not managers. Managers work for leaders, not vice versa. which is why I thought it was brilliant of Obama to say he needs people to keep him organized. He knew that Hillary wouldn't be able to resist jumping on that, and in the process, she couldn't have made herself look more like a secretary. A critical person, but not the the HNIC.

I think that was a Reagan-type move, so I guess I agree.
 
. . . then too, Reagan was a lot of other things, many not good, that I don't believe Barack would come close to being, emulating or even contemplating.

I don't know what either the Clintons or the republicans might be holding and waiting to bash Barack's ass with in the meantime, but unless its very good (or, to be more exact, sufficently nasty), this guy seems, to me at least, to possess a strange admixture that is going to make history in this country in November, 2008 -- and many of those supporting him might be surprised: he's no where left as some hope/despise and he's no where as hawkish as some fear/wish. Center politics. Center politics.

QueEx
 
Don't get me wrong, i'm not cosigning Reagan's policies- I'm just recognizing that he was a master politician/communicator. I don't think people that supported him really cared what he said, they just believed in him.

I think the same thing applies to Obama, as you suggest.

[he's no where left as some hope/despise and he's no where as hawkish as some fear/wish.]

Absolutely. I think this really comes down to a type of faith, where people are basically saying that "we see how you approach things, and we think we can trust your judgment." I mean, this brother is pulling in some of the evangelical vote.

Like him or not, people enthusiastically followed Reagan, which is how I define a leader. I see the same ability in Obama. But don't take my word for it, check the primary results.

Anyway, you get my point. Aren't we lucky Obama is on our side? Could you imagine him as a conservative?

I just scared myself. Some things I shouldn't even joke about.
 
One drawback of typed words on the internet - they lack voice inflections and facial expressions. LOL. Actually, I think were saying the same things, including your last comments above.

QueEx
 
One drawback of typed words on the internet - they lack voice inflections and facial expressions. LOL. Actually, I think were saying the same things, including your last comments above.

QueEx

Co-sign. lol

Looking at this deficit this war handed us, I don't know how we keep this nation running without kicking up the taxes a notch. My thinking is this, the war isn't so much about whatever bullshit the nation of Iraq was posing on the world as much as it was about oil, oil supplies and American interests. What I can't understand is how the oil giants can become the biggest benefactors at the same time the rest of the nation is sinking under water.

How could this be and why hasn't the democrat controlled congress been more involved in assisting big oil to defray the costs associated with this war. I'm a capitalist too but unless "UNITED STATES" doesn't include ExxonMobile, they need to pay some additional tariffs to do business in this country.

-VG
 
What you said, AND: without passing the additional costs (tariffs, etc.) along to consumers (because if that happens, then its simply a matter of consumers paying more out of the nose; consumers paying the cost of the war; and Big Oil escaping without any burden).

QueEx
 
He can't keep any of his promises if he plans to pay for them by just raising taxes on the rich. The only way he can do it is by forcing businesses to stay in the USA thereby generating more revenues. When he says he plans on closing loopholes, eliminating lobbyist, re-inventing America I think he means it literally.
 
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