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IRAN: Whats to be done.......

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Couple of issues:
1. For the Obama administration, the prospect of a nuclearized Iran is dismal to contemplate— it would create major new national-security challenges and crush the president’s dream of ending nuclear proliferation.

2.But the view from Jerusalem is still more dire: a nuclearized Iran represents, among other things, a threat to Israel’s very existence. In the gap between Washington’s and Jerusalem’s views of Iran lies the question: who, if anyone, will stop Iran before it goes nuclear, and how?

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/09/the-point-of-no-return/8186/
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Imagine you are a strategic planner based in Pentagon and has been tasked or given a job of coming up with different scenarios in regards to Iran...assuming its confirmed they already have a nuclear bomb.

What options do you think if implemented can or cannot work. I expect issues to do with NNPT or UN resolutions that could be adopted to justfy an invasion/war with Iran if need be
 
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Stop the bullshit.... ask yourself WHY Iran would want to go nuclear...
If I were Iran, I'd do everything within my national interest to go nuclear as quickly as possible.
 
The unnecessary war that George Bush imposed on Iraq in 2001 has put the US in a bind. The whole world is scared and suspicious of its motives. No one, with the possible exception of England, would support it in a war against Iran. However, all the things it accused Iraq of, are more true in Iran. That Iran is developing nukes goes without saying. That Iran supports Hamas and Hezbollah, goes without saying. This is not to say these things are wrong, but rather to say that they are facts...

The position George Bush put the US in is such that it is more or less helpless as Iran arms itself to the teeth. Ironically, the fact that George Bush Jr attacked Iran on a false pretext, strengthen the hand of the hardliners in Iran and weakened the moderates like Rafsanjani...The hardliners, like Khamenei, argued that the only bulwark against US military attack was the acquisition of nukes. They observed that Pakistan, which had nurtured both Al Qaida and the Taliban, had been immune to US retribution for 911, while the innocent Iraq suffered an invasion. The difference between the two countries was that one had nukes, and the other had not.
 
Jews need to give back land, and go back to Poland or where ever their from. Then Iran won't need nukes. Besides Israel is more of a threat to me than Iran They already have nukes and are most likely to use them. Just look at their track record with all the atrocities perpetrated against the Palestinian people.
 
Why is it good for Israel to have nukes and not Iran?

It's not our place in hindering the advancement of another nation. If anything, continue to broker peace with that nation.

And I mean actual peace brokerage, not the zionist influenced agenda which have been pushed.

And if war happens between Iran and israel, not our concern, let them destroy each other
 
i still think israelis will bomb w/ explicit US support.

but if they already have the bomb there really is nothing you can do because they will already have the knowledge. that is the main issue - once you've mastered the technical details then all they need is someplace impervious to bombs to reconstitute the weapons. if u read some of the articles being published recently, the reason the US isn't on the same timeline as Israel is that they think the Iranians have had technical problems that will take longer to sort out. but eventually, whether that time is in one year or 3 they will figure it out. once they have figured it out i think they will not build the actual bomb. all they want is the ability to construct one in a short amount of time. if they actually come out and admit they have a bomb there will probably be even more sanctions that might devastate their economy.
 
Since when is it right to decide the "Haves and the Have Nots"?
Fuck Israel, those occupiers. If England & the USA didn't put those white jews in Palestine we would not have terrorists today.
Once they got there they treated the Brown Man like trash...fast forward to today, Israel knows the walls are moving in and will stop at nothing to protect themselves (on the US's Dollar I might add) They are Given 10+ Billion every year to maintain their Country. I'm sick and tired of that Middle Eastern bullshit. Israel refuses to give back land, let ships into Gaza etc etc etc...I can't wait till they get punched in the nose
 
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Here goes Israelis Gov bitching and moaning again.:smh:

Israel Says Iran Nuclear Plant Unacceptable

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/news/israel-says-iran-nuclear-plant-unacceptable-dpgonc-km-20100822_9290373

Israel said Saturday the fueling of Iran's first nuclear reactor was "totally unacceptable" and urged greater world pressure to force Tehran to cease any uranium enrichment, FOXNews.com reported.

"It is totally unacceptable that a country that so blatantly violates (international treaties) should enjoy the fruits of using nuclear energy," Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yossi Levy said in a statement.

With Russian help, Iranian engineers began loading fuel into the country's first nuclear power plant Saturday, marking a milestone in Tehran's development of what it insists is a peaceful nuclear energy program.

A top Iranian official, however, was quoted saying Iran will continue to enrich uranium on the side -- despite a U.S. warning that Iran does need the enrichment program once the new Bushehr reactor is online if its intentions are indeed peaceful.

"The country's large-scale need to energy is obvious and that is the reason why we want to produce the required fuel ourselves," Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said, according to Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency.

He said Iran needs the uranium to supply future power reactors.

Uranium enrichment is one of two paths to a nuclear bomb. Iran could potentially go the plutonium route with its Bushehr reactor, but Moscow has pledged to prevent spent nuclear fuel at the new site from being shifted to a possible weapons program.

The U.S. State Department said it saw no "proliferation risk" from the nuclear reactor.

The Russian involvement in the reactor, intended for civilian purposes, "underscores that Iran does not need an indigenous enrichment capability if its intentions are purely peaceful," State Department spokesman Darby Holladay told AFP.

"We recognize that the Bushehr reactor is designed to provide civilian nuclear power and do not view it as a proliferation risk," he said.

The reactor, said Holladay, is "under International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards and Russia is providing the needed fuel and taking back the spent nuclear fuel, which would be the principal source of proliferation concerns."

A White House official stressed, however, that U.S. views on the Bushehr reactor "should not be confused with the world's fundamental concerns with Iran's overall nuclear intentions, particularly its pursuit of uranium enrichment."

Iran says it is enriching uranium to power nuclear reactors so they can eventually generate around 20,000 megawatts of electricity.
 
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not our issue... at all.
Funny when a non white society has ideals of nuclear power, there is an issue, but any white society is cool to have it. I wonder what would happen then if every non white country had a nuke...

oh yeah,
strong arm negotiations would be destroyed.
 
pyramidbuilder said:
Stop the bullshit.... ask yourself WHY Iran would want to go nuclear...
If I were Iran, I'd do everything within my national interest to go nuclear as quickly as possible.
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...makes sense to me. I notices that after N. Korea tested that nuke, the US stopped making the lame ass threats. :lol:
 
Ok, lets all be real.

Who would you rather have nuclear capabilities in that area?

Israel. The same Israel that shows no intention to take over any other area except what they believe is there homeland. The same Israel would love to just be left the fuck alone, and only deal with the Palestinians violently because some fuck head decides to blow up themselves in a cafe from time to time...

or...

Iran. The same Iran that brutalize it's on citizens because of a mock election. Who vowed to destroy Israel *and Palestine...since it's one sliver of land...*, and would love to take out their main religious rivals in Saudi Arabia. Thus, raising oil prices. Thus, making the world a shitty place like their shitty ass country, because they are insecure ISLAMIC pricks who don't have anything else to do....

Yea I think Israel is the bad one...
 
the way i see it. Isreal loves being the top power in the middle east and have shown in recent years that it will invade any country (lebanon) in that region given even the slightest provocation.

So even if Iran is just trying to modernize in order to compete on a quality of life level with the west. Isreal and America don't care. They will bomb Iran to maintain the hegemony over the region. End of story.

Hell even if America doesn't do the bombing (which honestly might be the smartest American foreign policy move since 2000) Isreal will bomb Iran. Hell Iran is like the dude you know who thinks since everyone is scared of him since he acts crazy that he can fight. But as this nuclear reactor continues to be built the world is soon going to find out if Iran can fight.

Also honestly I do not believe Iran thinks America is going to get involved in this fight. They are preparing for a fight with Isreal. the new weaponry they have displayed seems to have been built with the idea of bombing Isreal right back if they attack the reactors.

Will this end well for us if America becomes involved with the bombing. Nope citizens always suffer and like i read somewhere else Iran has its own army that would make the middle east situation worse. Also I always say America has a clock ticking down to our next 9/11 event because in reality it just takes one slip up to cause an even like that. Us going in there just bumps the timer on that clock up.

Now if no one attacks Iran will become the South Korea of the middle east. That crazy country everyone leaves alone to itself. The only reason I think this is unlikely is because if Iran succeeds you will start to see all the other middle eastern countries start to follow its path to nuclear armament. This scenario is Isreals worse nightmare so I truly see them going to war with Iran.

Little by Little this war in the middle east feels to me like it is the spawning ground of the next world war.
 
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the way i see it. Isreal loves being the top power in the middle east and have shown in recent years that it will invade any country (lebanon) in that region given even the slightest provocation.

So even if Iran is just trying to modernize in order to compete on a quality of life level with the west. Isreal and America don't care. They will bomb Iran to maintain the hegemony over the region. End of story.

Hell even if America doesn't do the bombing (which honestly might be the smartest American foreign policy move since 2000) Isreal will bomb Iran. Hell Iran is like the dude you know who thinks since everyone is scared of him since he acts crazy that he can fight. But as this nuclear reactor continues to be built the world is soon going to find out if Iran can fight.

Also honestly I do not believe Iran thinks America is going to get involved in this fight. They are preparing for a fight with Isreal. the new weaponry they have displayed seems to have been built with the idea of bombing Isreal right back if they attack the reactors.

Will this end well for us if America becomes involved with the bombing. Nope citizens always suffer and like i read somewhere else Iran has its own army that would make the middle east situation worse. Also I always say America has a clock ticking down to our next 9/11 event because in reality it just takes one slip up to cause an even like that. Us going in there just bumps the timer on that clock up.

Now if no one attacks Iran will become the South Korea of the middle east. That crazy country everyone leaves alone to itself. The only reason I think this is unlikely is because if Iran succeeds you will start to see all the other middle eastern countries start to follow its path to nuclear armament. This scenario is Isreals worse nightmare so I truly see them going to war with Iran.

Little by Little this war in the middle east feels to me like it is the spawning ground of the next world war.
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Sooner or later America is going to have to stop with this Israel shit. I know the zionists Jews got their foothold in America, but enough is enough. They are the drunk uncle that is always getting in shit and serves no purpose to us. America still has to deal with bad blood in the area and Israel just makes the problem worse.

Pookie(israel) always getting us into some shit we don't need.

Israel wants to be able to be working on a warp drive and wants the rest of the region to stay in the dark ages.
 
...if, and that's a big IF, Iran were to nuke Isreal, wouldn't the Iranians just make themselves a target in the eyes of all Muslims, radical and not? I mean Israel is so close to such important Muslim holy ground, if Iran used a nuke on Israel, they would also irradicate their own holy lands as well. the fallout would be all over, especially if you look at weather patterns in the northern hemisphere going from west to east...fuck them both anyways.
 
This shit is all about middle east destabilization. Nuclear weapons is just a reason to go to war. The U.S. is used by Israel for reason unknown to me, but every large nation that poses a threat has been declawed. Iran and Syria are pretty much the last right? They'll be talking about human rights violations next and Iran using chemical weapons against their own. Iran is quick to crush uprisings though. This is also about keeping world domination. Those countries have been set back 50 or more years. War destroys infrastructure and anyone with real talent usually leave for better opportunities in other countries. War is nasty and the U.S. has been constantly at war. Sickening. War is profitable too so Iran might have to go ahead and get a neck check so those damn evil shits can get paid. Even if they did have nuclear weapons, I don't believe they could deliver that payload here. Israel maybe but it would be the end of their country and they know it.
 

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