I don't agree with this at all

I also believe hetero people should adopt more too. **just putting it out there in case you've never thought about it**

What do you all think?

NO. I was raised by evil horrible adoptive parents who never let you forget you not theirs and I would never wish that on any other soul :smh:
 
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As opposed to which other perspectives? Just curious.
Those of older cultures.

sean69 said:
What?! I say it's the other way round. Heck, childhood and teenage-hood are coddled, celebrated and worshiped in America if anything.
And that's a bad thing.

Pretty general sweeping statement, no?
Maybe. But i'm comfortable with making it.

Can you explain?
Sexuality isn't very cut and dry. When people delve into it and are placed into situations where sexuality is forced to be rethought they often will. You CAN have sex with the same gender and indeed NOT be homosexual DEPENDING on how you view that defintion. Me personally? I think everyone is along a sliding scale. It's like what i say about "never". You don't know "never". How can you invoke it?
 
Well, I will hold my opinions of straight women who bring a child into the world without any male input (single and going to the sperm bank or whatever), but you can probably guess what I am going to say. Either way, I know women can get pregnant even if they are gay, but that does not make it right in my mind. I could see if they are bisexual, but you claim that you want to be with women only--do it!! I also don't agree with the divorce rates in this country and how easy it is to get married and divorced. And that's not even giving my opinion on marriage. Yeah sexuality is on a spectrum, but if you are decidedly on one end, then.... :dunno: stay there! LOL

Ok, let me understand this. This scenario. In my relationship now, my wife and i are married(just an example). You think i should give up my kids(I know these weren't your exact words, but i'm trying to understand the very last sentence you wrote and this is how i took it. And no i'm not offended hurt or upset. I'm just trying to gain understanding. Just as i assume you were by making this thread).

Or do you not like people of the same gender being pregnant?

If i never want to be with another man again, my children should lose their home? Their mother? Is this how you would have it?

Or do you believe Sally and Mary get together, they should deny their own biological process to want children? I think this 1 sounds most like what alot of people are saying.
 
Ok, let me understand this. This scenario. In my relationship now, my wife and i are married(just an example). You think i should give up my kids(I know these weren't your exact words, but i'm trying to understand the very last sentence you wrote and this is how i took it. And no i'm not offended hurt or upset. I'm just trying to gain understanding. Just as i assume you were by making this thread).

Or do you not like people of the same gender being pregnant?

If i never want to be with another man again, my children should lose their home? Their mother? Is this how you would have it?

Or do you believe Sally and Mary get together, they should deny their own biological process to want children? I think this 1 sounds most like what alot of people are saying.
I;m pretty sure I stated it clearly, but let me try again: I do not think that lesbians should get pregnant. Adopt--yes. Bisexual women getting pregnant by their male partner, no biggie. Heterosexual people: have children when they are in a stable relationship and also adopt if wanted/possible.
lol. ok.

how you doing by the way? :)
I'm doing well. Enjoying life :) you?
 
I;m pretty sure I stated it clearly, but let me try again: I do not think that lesbians should get pregnant. Adopt--yes. Bisexual women getting pregnant by their male partner, no biggie. Heterosexual people: have children when they are in a stable relationship and also adopt if wanted/possible.

Why shouldn't lesbians get pregnant but adopt?
 
Alright. I read your posts. But i still don't see where you said a reason for not liking lesbians to birth children. The closest i believe i got too was where you said a man has children with a woman. Which i don't understand why that's ok. Or what that has to do with lesbians birthing.

If you don't care to explain i understand. I apologize for pushing.
 
Studs freak me out... I don't get why women, want to be with women who dress/act like men... I've been seeing more and more studs lately with ultra femmes ... I'm not into that...

Kids ... I mean, kids can c ome out fucked up from any type of home .. gay, straight, single or divorced ... thats not really up to any of us to say whats better ... A family is what you make it, the traditional nuclear family as many of us imagine it doesn't equal better child hood ...

I do agree on adoption .. wish american adoption was easier ..


NO. I was raised by evil horrible adoptive parents who never let you forget you not theirs and I would never wish that on any other soul :smh:

I'm sorry to hear this Bi .. but you're situation isn't what will happen to every child ... I know a family of adopted kids, who absolutely adore their parents ...and vice versa ... You have kids who grow up with their biological parents telling them they ain't shit and mentally/verbally abusing them...
 
Those of older cultures.
Pretty vague. I was looking for a more specific answer, but fine.


Maybe. But i'm comfortable with making it.
OK. Just wanted to point that out. Your prerogative in the end, but realize that it may appear kind of inconsistent when one addresses generalizations with generalizations. Shit gets all muddled. Your convo with Followup about the sexuality spectrum being a case in point.


Sexuality isn't very cut and dry. When people delve into it and are placed into situations where sexuality is forced to be rethought they often will. You CAN have sex with the same gender and indeed NOT be homosexual DEPENDING on how you view that defintion. Me personally? I think everyone is along a sliding scale. It's like what i say about "never". You don't know "never". How can you invoke it?
You CAN beat your wife a couple times a week and indeed NOT be abusive DEPENDING on how you view that definition.
Semantics and opinion. Inarguable.
 
I;m pretty sure I stated it clearly, but let me try again: I do not think that lesbians should get pregnant. Adopt--yes. Bisexual women getting pregnant by their male partner, no biggie. Heterosexual people: have children when they are in a stable relationship and also adopt if wanted/possible.

I'm doing well. Enjoying life :) you?
Good to hear. :)

Followup, come on, that logic is unfounded. In other words, you're saying that you only endorse ONLY natural insemination but ONLY in a "stable" relationship? What if natural insemination isn't possible even in a stable relationship. By the way, i'm not even gonna get into what "stable" means because that's a whole 'nother opinion based can of worms.
Again, what EXACTLY is your basis for making this judgement? Physio-sexuality or psycho-sexuality? Can you answer this?
 
Good to hear. :)

Followup, come on, that logic is unfounded. In other words, you're saying that you only endorse ONLY natural insemination but ONLY in a "stable" relationship? What if natural insemination isn't possible even in a stable relationship. By the way, i'm not even gonna get into what "stable" means because that's a whole 'nother opinion based can of worms.
Again, what EXACTLY is your basis for making this judgement? Physio-sexuality or psycho-sexuality? Can you answer this?
Pregnancy happens between a man and a woman.
 
Pretty vague. I was looking for a more specific answer, but fine.


OK. Just wanted to point that out. Your prerogative in the end, but realize that it may appear kind of inconsistent when one addresses generalizations with generalizations. Shit gets all muddled. Your convo with Followup about the sexuality spectrum being a case in point.


You CAN beat your wife a couple times a week and indeed NOT be abusive DEPENDING on how you view that definition.
Semantics and opinion. Inarguable.

We each feel as we do. As with the highlighted? If you stick your penis in a hole, no matter where the hole is? Does that make you a ______sexual? I mean if you screw a knothole in a fence does that mean you have an affection for wood? I know guys who screw plasticdolls. There's a plasticsexual?

Once again you can see it as you choose. And it may well be semantics. I just believe things are more complicated than it's GOT to be THIS or THAT. There's nothing in between.
 
I agree with Followup.

Studs are popular because the femmes still like men, but don't want to be with a man. They usually had a bad experience with one or two dudes and turned to women because they think/thought it would be better. Some, not all. Funny thing is, studs can be just as bad as niggas. At least around here.
 
I agree with Followup.

Studs are popular because the femmes still like men, but don't want to be with a man. They usually had a bad experience with one or two dudes and turned to women because they think/thought it would be better. Some, not all. Funny thing is, studs can be just as bad as niggas. At least around here.

I call these the 3 percenters lol. Just a random number, Really most women get with other women because they really do like being with women. The overwhelming vast majority. This nonsense here lately? These past 15 years or so? You've got girls getting with others simply "becauz". They'll almost always go back to a guy within a few years or less.
 
;) @ LI

Thanks for the explanation.


I'm intrigued by worlds I don't live in...though there are somethings I don't really understand.


Normally people would just chalk this up to a misguided subculture, a case of the others trying to normal. When in fact the others just solidified their position in otherness.

I know about being an other. There are a lot of people who want to be like us but not ostracized. Then there are the others like some of these studs that want to cast their title, so as not to be ostracized. See the common denominator? The key is maintain your other status in your 'normal' world.
 
No matter what it seems like people are going to ostracize you no matter what. Someone is going to think you're "wrong" for what you just are. For how you feel. You don't have to be doing anything but minding your own business and doing your own life but they're going to feel you're wrong for existing.

I understand this. I even feel it myself plenty times. But what i never do is let it get in the way of trying to prevent someone else from achieving their happiness or whatever else they choose to do.

As long as you're happy doing you, that's cool. I will defend your right to be you and seek your happiness. It's a shame others don't often feel this way though.
 
Pregnancy happens between a man and a woman.
No. Pregnancy happens in a woman. smh.


We each feel as we do. As with the highlighted? If you stick your penis in a hole, no matter where the hole is? Does that make you a ______sexual? I mean if you screw a knothole in a fence does that mean you have an affection for wood? I know guys who screw plasticdolls. There's a plasticsexual?

Once again you can see it as you choose. And it may well be semantics. I just believe things are more complicated than it's GOT to be THIS or THAT. There's nothing in between.
We should just get rid of adjectives all together then. That would make the world a lot simpler?:dunno:
Never said it has to be black or white...read my posts to Followup. People/society labels, and for good reason, because without this there'd be no order or society. When it's all said and done being comfy with who you are trumps, consequences not withstanding.
 
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No. Pregnancy happens in a woman. smh.


We should just get rid of adjectives all together then. That would make the world a lot simpler?:dunno:
Never said it has to be black or white...read my posts to Followup. People/society labels, and for good reason, because without this there'd be no order or society. When it's all said and done being comfy with who you are trumps, consequences not withstanding.

This is something we agree on.
 
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