The Hawks have improved every year under Mike Woodson and you know what he did a decent job, however the Hawks have gone as far as they can under his leadership. Its time to bring a head strong coach, with some creative offense, defensive toughness to the Hawks.
Candidates
1- Jeff Van Gundy
2- Avery Johnson
3- Byron Scott
Trades...
I like Joe Johnson even though his bitch ass chokes in the playoffs then cries to the fans for boing...I mean shit average lost of 25plus per game in the playoffs...mofo should have been throwing shit at the Hawks bench all night..
Lets face it Joe is a second tier player...so sign and trade him..and Bibby too..
1) Trade bibby to nets for Devin Harris. This may happen any esp if the Nets get the #1 pick in John Wall.
2) Sign & Trade Joe to Toronto for Chris Bosh...
Ok hear me out...
Bosh plays the Center (I know undersize but fuck it)
Horford moves to the (Power Forward Spot)
Smith Moves to the (Small Forward Spot)
Crawford starts at the (shooting Guard)
Devin Haris / Teague battle out for the PG guard duties.
On the Bench
Marvin Williams (SF)
Josh Childress (SG)
Zaza (PF)
Lets start with that..and maybe add Ray Allen b/c he will be available after this season with the midlevel exception
Your plan is good and bad. Why would you want Vangundy? He hasn't seen the 2nd round over a decade? Byron Scott? Didn't he become lazy and preferred fishing versus coaching his team? I like Avery Johnson, but Avery will probably take the smart route and pair himself with Chris Paul.
I like the Devin Harris idea. You want Bosh? He is Joe Johnson at the Power forward position. Ray Allen will take a pay cut and resign with the Celtics before he comes to the Hawks. So that move ain't happening.
Keep everything in place, simply add a legit Man n da Middle!!
Move Horford to PF
Move Smith to SF
Johnson @ SG
Bibby @ PG
Keep Crawford @ 6th man and Teague coming off the bench for Bibby.
Championship!!
Nah man. Center is a problem for us, but the problem is bigger than that. Joe Johnson is the problem.
i still say get rid of bibby....n convert crawford...
and god dam it...get a fucking big man ....or two....
What? You didn't watch the series did you? Crawford ran point a lot. He had the same problem at point which he had when he was trying to run point with other teams. This dude would bring the ball up court and fire a jumper without passing to anyone. I wouldn't dare have this dude running point. I think you guys confuse point guard with "a player who brings the ball down the court". Just because you can dribble and bring the ball down court, doesn't make you a point guard.
Nah we need to get rid of Bibby, how about Derrick Rose for PG?
This is a good dream. LoL
Hawks need a floor leader period.
They have talent at every position but don't have that one player who everyone looks to when the game's on the line.
Atanta reminds me of Sacramento back in the day, talent everywhere on the court but never had that one player who could will them past L.A.
Good assessment.
Hawks were an 'uptempo' team, this year.
i.e. like an East Coast version of the 2005-6 Phoenix Suns.
But instead of running & gunning and relying on 'transition' baskets (like they were doing all year long)... they decided to play a 'half-court' game... against a team that has the Best Shot Blocker in the NBA.
Bad idea.
ATL was not built for that.
If they NOT gonna run against the Magic... they need SOLID 'outside shooting' to stretch the defense in the half-court set-up.
Plus whoever D.Howard was guarding ... needs to run the 'pick & roll' at the top of the key / near the 3-point line effectively, in order to pull him away from the bucket and keep him outside of the paint. Where he can't block shots, or dominate the boards.
Basically in order to keep that series competitive, Jason Collins needed to take notes from Pau Gasol + Tim Duncan on how to...
1. Run the pick-n-roll, at the very top of the key.
2. Hit mid-range jumpers + short bank shots.
Also, Atlanta needed a consistent long-range shooter on the court AT ALL TIMES.
- Joe Johnson is a great mid-range scorer.
- Jamal Crawford can hit from deep. But he gets limited minutes.
- So they needed a Stephen Curry-type, imo.
Not bad.
#1 Get a real center, he doesn't have to be a prolific scorer but he has to be solid defensively, good on the glass, and able to convert the garbage into points.
#2 Bring in a true shooting guard that can create his own shot off the dribble and is a decent shooter. You don't have to get rid of Joe Johnson but he's really just an undersized swingman, and not a true 2 guard. If you do that you can actually keep Bibby and when Bibby isn't in the floor you can let Crawford run at Point Forward.
Start there, and run something else on offense besides iso's.
I kinda like your idea, but I would get rid of Joe Johnson and Crawford can't be a point anything. Bring the ball down court once in a while - yes. Point anything? No
Joe disappointed me.......He needs to be more of a leader.
But maybe that is not his personality....
You right. It's not his personality.
No Pick & Roll
No Real offensive schemes,
Losing by 25pts in the playoffs...smh.
A real coach...
= Poor Coaching
Gawd dammit. Now here is a man who knows what he is talking about. Great post.
if they can get dalembert or someone of that caliber....it would help....but as for joe he bout to chuck the deuces
Now I like this idea.
Here's how you fix the Hawks.
1.) Go in the Wayback Machine
to the following years:
2004 - and draft either Luol Deng and Andre Iguodala instead of Josh Childress.
2005 - and flip a coin between Deron Williams or Chris Paul and draft one of them instead of Marvin Williams.
2006 - and draft Brandon Roy or Rudy Gay instead of Shelden Williams.
2009 - and draft Darren Collison instead of Jeff Teague.
or simply go back and NOT HIRE their GM, Billy Knight.
Here is another Brilliant man. Very smart man. Billy knight fucked the Hawks up. The one great thing he did was draft Josh Smith. He lucked up on that pick because most teams didn't want him because of attitude and it was easy for Billy to draft Josh because he was a home town pick. Billy Knight tried to build a 6'9 squad. He wanted Joe to run point full time, moved Josh Childress to Shooting Guard which he was clearly a Small Forward, J Smoove and Marvin at forwards and Sheldon at Center. He fucked the hawks up.
The team has progressed every year under Mike, that counts for something.
They are not built to hang with Orlando. But the playoff losses were really painful to watch.
Bibby can no longer keep up with elite point guards.
Ownership has been at war with themselves for years. Bad drafts, not being willing to spend. They need to fix that.
If they get a center who can play D and a point guard with a decent basketball IQ they can contend in the East.
This is bigger than Mike.
You are right to some degree, but I give a lot of credit to maturity of the team staying together and growing. Mike really pulled the wool over our eyes. He survived with a run and gun team with no offensive sets. Hopefully he can learn from this experience, but the Hawks don't need him anymore.
I follow the Hawks heavily. I know what this team needs. First I wouldn't resign Woodson as coach. We need to bring in Sam Mitchell (former coach of the year who undeservedly got fired because of affirmative action to bring in a international coach figuring he would be a great marketing tool for Toronto which has seriously failed them), Dwayne Casey (Caught a raw deal in Minn, did a fine job there, but didn't get him more talent), Dell Harris (I believe he deserves another coaching job, he hasn't been hired since coaching the Lakers so I know he is burning for a chance to coach again and prove himself) or the assistant from the Celtics (Winning mentality and orchestrated the Celtics defensive scheme).
Next. I like the idea of hoping the Nets get the number pick. If they do that, I would pray for us to trade Bibby and Teague for Devin Harris.
Next the Hawks needs to use their draft pick to get a solid back up power forward.
Next. Joe Johnson has to go. Joe doesn't deserve a max contract. I like the idea of seeing if Philly would want him for Dalambert. We need Dala badddddddd. I think Josh needs to be the first or second scoring option. He can take any player to the hole at will. I might sound crazy, but the offense is ready to run through this talented kid. He is a superstar waiting to happen. I think Crawford can start at shooting guard so Joe is expendable to me.
Now if the hawks can't get Devin Harris, I saw we go after Kirk Hinrich first and Raymond Felton 2nd. Both can run offenses, but Kirk is a better shooter and can defend SGs. I like Raymond a lot because he is a pure passing PG, but Charlotte wanted him to score which is not his game.
Finally I would sign JJ Redick. He has grown as a player and tough plus he can shoot his ass of. Orlando is seriously over the cap, but he might get a mid level exception from them.
The New Hawks would look like this:
PG - Devin or Kirk or Felton
SG - Crawford/JJ
C - Dala/ZaZa
PF - Horford/Draft Pick
SF - Josh Smith/Marvin
This gives the Hawks a decent 8 or 9 man rotation.
Worked in NBA 2K10, thought I give it a shot 
Damn man why you got to bring up old shit...
