Movie Debate: How One Deleted Killmonger Line Totally Changed The Ending Of Black Panther

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How One Deleted Killmonger Line Totally Changed The Ending Of Black Panther

BY ERIC EISENBERG
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SPOILER WARNING: The following article contains major spoilers for the ending of Black Panther**. If you have not yet seen the film, continue at your own risk.**

Ryan Coogler's Black Panther had one of the most beautiful and impactful endings of any movie in 2018. Not only does the whole story come full circle in an incredible way, but it's a conclusion that also fully satisfies the themes of the film and the arc of the titular hero. It really is perfect -- which is why it may surprise you to learn not only how late in the process it all came together, but also that the whole thing was changed because of a deleted line of dialogue from Michael B. Jordan's Erik Killmonger shortly before his death.

This fascinating story about the filmmaking process comes from an interview that I did with Black Panther editor Michael Shawver last week -- specifically during a discussion about how reshoots wound up shaping the blockbuster into the movie we know. He explained that the United Nations scene (now featured in the mid-credits) was the original end of the film, but input from co-editor Debbie Bermanmade him and Ryan Coogler realize they were missing a scene where the lesson of the story was fully realized for the hero. Tracing this idea back, they discovered a specific problem in Killmonger's final moments. Said Shawver,

With reshoots Ryan wanted to do a new ending, and it's a whole bigger thing with the scene where Killmonger dies... What we shot originally, and in the script, was Killmonger saying 'It's beautiful, but what are you going to do for everybody in the world who can't see this?'... And it was great. It was powerful, it was awesome, but it was problematic for a few reasons. One, we realized that just as a character, for the journey of T'Challa, he can't get the answer to the movie and what he needs to do from the villain - like straight-up exactly what he needs. And that's kind of what was happening. Secondly, it was a great performance, and [Michael B. Jordan] brought it, and it was painful to watch because you kind of don't want this guy to die, but it didn't fit his character.

It's not great when one of the final scenes in your movie doesn't allow proper endings for both your hero and your villain, but the good news is that this revelation was made prior to reshoots, allowing the Black Panther filmmakers time to think of an idea and fix it.

Fortunately, Ryan Coogler and Michael Shawver are long time collaborators -- the latter having cut all three of the former's features -- and that experience turned out to be crucial in fixing the issues. The duo apparently have a habit of watching scenes from classic movies and browsing filmmaker videos on YouTube while they are working, and it was through this part of their process that they ultimately discovered the answer to their problem. As Shawver noted, it all came down to understanding what makes the greatest movie endings of all time so great:

One thing that we did was looking at all those Top 10 lists of best endings ever for movies, and we found in a lot of these videos it was one of two things: it was either the twist ending... or it was The Godfather... Basically, the first time you meet Michael, he's with Kay and he's telling her he's not like his family. 'That's not me, Kay. That's them.' The last scene we see him, he's telling Kay he's not like his family... But then he walks and the door shuts, and you know everything is different. But it's the same conversation! And so it's the circular nature why those kinds of endings feel like closure even though it's open-ended.


Coming to this revelation sent Ryan Coogler off to write a new ending for Black Panther -- one that would take the story back to exactly where it started: Oakland, California, and the childhood home of Erik Killmonger. In the new scene, T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman) and Shuri (Letitia Wright) not only explain how their nation's influence is going to start changing the world, with refurbishment projects and outreach programs, but we even get a special peek at what that influence is going to mean for the people who have lived their lives without Wakandan resources.

This scene was exactly what the film needed. Not only was the villain no longer telling the hero exactly what he needed to do, but audiences got to actually see T'Challa actively learn a lesson from the story and start work on the ground level instead of just making a speech at the United Nations. It's really a perfect example of showing instead of telling, as Michael Shawver explained,

Ryan went off in his lab and did his brilliant work that he does as a writer, and wrote the final scene in Oakland where he goes with Shuri and shows the Royal Talon fighter to those kids, and specifically a kid that kinda looks like a young Killmonger. Basically, him showing them that, and buying those buildings, and the Wakandan Outreach Program was in spirit what originally we had Killmonger tell him. 'If people can just see this. If people can see their own potential then things would be different.' And so that was done in a new scene where we see what T'Challa has done. And then at the very, very, very end, the last line is that kid looking at him and saying, 'Who are you?' And that is the theme of the movie, of identity. Who are you? And he doesn't need to answer it, because he just answered it for us.
So the next time you see or hear someone fretting about a movie going through reshoots, tell them about this story. Rather than automatically being a sign that things have gone terribly wrong behind the scenes of a project, additional photography can be a process utilized to make a great film even better, and Black Panther is a perfect example.


Following its theatrical release early last year, the 18th feature from Marvel Studios is now available for anyone to watch on home video -- either digitally or via 4K, Blu-ray and DVD -- and it also happens to very much be a contender in this year's awards race. As such, we'll surely be writing a lot more about the movie in the coming weeks, including more from my interview with Michael Shawver, so stay tuned here on CinemaBlend.

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Should've kept that and the line of dialogue we seen in the final version.

Because at the end of the day even in the final version it still had fans say, "Killmonger was right."

Apparently they thought they escaped that idea by deleting that line but they didn't.

Even right here on this forum we discussed it and many of us agreed. KILLMONGER WAS RIGHT. lol

The answers still came from the villain what he needed to do still came from the villain and what does T'Challa end up doing at the end of the movie.

In the hood investing in Oakland.

Despite it's deletion that message still carried.
 
Should've kept that and the line of dialogue we seen in the final version.

Because at the end of the day even in the final version it still had fans say, "Killmonger was right."

Apparently they thought they escaped that idea by deleting that line but they didn't.

Even right here on this forum we discussed it and many of us agreed. KILLMONGER WAS RIGHT. lol

The answers still came from the villain what he needed to do still came from the villain and what does T'Challa end up doing at the end of the movie.

In the hood investing in Oakland.

Despite it's deletion that message still carried.

I read the deleted line and would’ve loved to see/hear that but like you said, it didn’t need to be kept bc in the 2nd half, you were wondering that same thing the whole time and then it got answered. Granted, the ending was “cute” but very dope.

Next movie, let’s incorporate some Luke Cage, Brother Voodoo, Storm (not no damn Halle Berry), Wesley Snipes Blade, with Cap. America, Bukky and of course Isaiah Bradley #CooglerIhopeyoulurkhere.


#sidenote...a kids summer camp in Wakanda:eek:
 
I still want to see killmonger in Black Panther 3.

His last line has a completely plausible play for his resurrection in Black Panther 3.

“Bury me in the ocean, with my ancestors that jumped from the ships, because they knew death was better than bondage.”

Who lives in the ocean? Namor. Namor Resurrects Killmonger, scooping him up as he floats to the depths. Namor is the villain in BP2, attacking while Wakanda is at it's weakest, after Thanos and their own civil war.

Bringing killmonger back for black panther 2 would be too corny, and hopefully all parties understand that. In the post-credits for black panther 2 killmonger regains consciousness from his coma. <End movie>

You can't tell me that won't be dope. It makes sense for killmonger to plan his own death just in case because that's just the type of strategic motherfuker he is
 
I still want to see killmonger in Black Panther 3.

His last line has a completely plausible play for his resurrection in Black Panther 3.

“Bury me in the ocean, with my ancestors that jumped from the ships, because they knew death was better than bondage.”

Who lives in the ocean? Namor. Namor Resurrects Killmonger, scooping him up as he floats to the depths. Namor is the villain in BP2, attacking while Wakanda is at it's weakest, after Thanos and their own civil war.

Bringing killmonger back for black panther 2 would be too corny, and hopefully all parties understand that. In the post-credits for black panther 2 killmonger regains consciousness from his coma. <End movie>

You can't tell me that won't be dope. It makes sense for killmonger to plan his own death just in case because that's just the type of strategic motherfuker he is

Instead of Prince Namor, make it Attuma.

Have Namor and BP team up against those two lunatics.
 
Black Panther and Dr. Strange are the weakest of all the Marvel movies IMO. I know I'm in the minority with opinion on both movies, but just how I see it.

I hoping the second BP will be a lot better now that they have established all the characters in the first one.
 
I still want to see killmonger in Black Panther 3.

Who lives in the ocean? Namor. Namor Resurrects Killmonger, scooping him up as he floats to the depths. Namor is the villain in BP2, attacking while Wakanda is at it's weakest, after Thanos and their own civil war.

In the post-credits for black panther 2 killmonger regains consciousness from his coma. <End movie>

Boy I'm glad you dudes don't write these movies. :lol::smh::smh::smh:
 
You dudes are so dumb. Nakia was right. Kilmonger was a murderer as well.
 
I don't think that they should have kept that line in the theatrical cut but they definitely should have included it in the blu ray. I mean if they shoot the scene then I want to see it.
I want to know when they coming out with the director commentary and all the bonus features and shit. Ryan coogler said back last April that he was recording it, so it's coming out. The question is when
 
Yea living it in implies killmonger might have made as good a king or better. But it takes more to be king then being a warrior.
Not really. The whole movie was built on Kilmonger's desire to let the world know of Wakanda's presence. The movie had already established Kilmonger had some valid points. It was the execution of those points that was the problem.

The outreach center was T'Challa's way of letting the world know of their existence vs going to war.

I wish they would have kept it in.
 
I read the deleted line and would’ve loved to see/hear that but like you said, it didn’t need to be kept bc in the 2nd half, you were wondering that same thing the whole time and then it got answered. Granted, the ending was “cute” but very dope.

Next movie, let’s incorporate some Luke Cage, Brother Voodoo, Storm (not no damn Halle Berry), Wesley Snipes Blade, with Cap. America, Bukky and of course Isaiah Bradley #CooglerIhopeyoulurkhere.


#sidenote...a kids summer camp in Wakanda:eek:

I like this.
 
i like it just the way it was... killmonger didn't need to say what was already obvious. it would have been corny
 
THIS is the BGOL I love. My people coming together to have discussions about something and everyone has their grown man pants on. No bickering or name calling, just some grown ass men having a discussion. And even when you're not in agreement, you still keep it grown. THIS is what the trait of black kings look like. Awesome!
 
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