House subcommittee votes to shut down SC State for TWO YEARS

[Hotlantan]

The powers that be have been trying to turn that very valuable campus into a non-HBCU "University of South Carolina at Orangeburg" for a long time...
House subcommittee votes to shut down SC State for two years
http://www.thestate.com/2015/02/10/3980563/house-panel-votes-to-close-sc.html

<article id="story-content"> COLUMBIA — A S.C. House budget panel voted Tuesday to close S.C. State University for two years to help the school ends it financial troubles.

The state’s only historically black public college has a $10 million deficit from unpaid bills to food and maintenance vendors. S.C. State’s enrollment has dropped sharply in recent years and just 14 percent of students graduate within four years.

The vote by the House panel that oversees funding for state colleges is the culmination of frustration over S.C. State’s finances, said Rep. Jim Merrill, a Berkeley Republican who heads the panel.

The plan, which still needs approval from the full House and Senate, would close S.C. State for the 2015-16 and 2016-17 school years. Students could get scholarships to attend other state public colleges or other historically black schools if the keep a 2.5 grade-point average.

The state would fire the school administration, board of trustees, faculty and staff under the proposal.

Other employees at the Orangeburg school would have to reapply for their jobs when the school re-opens, said Rep. Phillip Lowe, a Florence Republican on the panel.

The state would need to work out terms to repay $7.5 million in loans it has given to S.C. State as well as an estimated $100 million in bonds that the school holds. The state would assume responsibility for the S.C. State’s debt.

The proposal also would suspend the Bulldogs’ athletics programs.

The school would close on July 1.

A panel of current and former state college presidents would develop a plan to re-open the school by Jan. 1, 2017, and S.C. State would hold classes again in fall 2017.

Budget panel members said S.C. State President Thomas Elzey has not done enough to turn around the school’s financial fortunes since arriving in 2013. The problems pre-date Elzey when school leaders borrowed money to cover deficits.

Panel members said they were not pleased that part of Elzey’s budget request for next year included $6 million to pay back an earlier state loan.

Elzey drove to Columbia to speak with lawmakers Tuesday after hearing about the vote.

The school’s accreditation remains on probation because of financial and accounting issues.

S.C. State would lose is accreditation if it closes for a year, said Belle Wheelan, president of the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges. Students cannot receive financial aid at unaccredited schools.

Getting accreditation at the new S.C. State would take at least two years, Wheelan said.
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[Coldchi]

The fuckery begins........sad shit

 

[Amajorfucup]

This school has a rich history. If they allow it to shut down it wont survive. But thats the purpose of them shutting it down tho.

 

[simonmarcel]

S.C. State’s enrollment has dropped sharply in recent years and just 14 percent of students graduate within four years.

This is their biggest problem. You can't sustain a college, especially a small black one, with this taking place. But the racist CACs that run the state don't spend money to educate black children and then point to the above stat to justify shutting down black colleges.

 

[Hotlantan]

This school has a rich history. If they allow it to shut down it wont survive. But thats the purpose of them shutting it down tho.

Just this announcement is an effective death sentence. Current students with the means or opportunity will want to transfer as soon as possible, and prospective students will not want to enroll in the middle of such controversy.

 

[Problematic]

these crackas want to eventually get rid of the all the hbcu's.

doesn't matter what reason they come up with.

 

[Hotlantan]

S.C. State’s enrollment has dropped sharply in recent years and just 14 percent of students graduate within four years.

This is their biggest problem. You can't sustain a college, especially a small black one, with this taking place.

To keep the 14% number in a real world perspective, in the DC/DMV area, the four year graduation rate at Galludet is NINE percent, UMUC is SIX percent, Coppin State is FIVE percent and The University of the District of Columbia is THREE percent.

That SC State rate is about average for public HBCUs, ranks second behind next door neighbor Claflin among all HBCU's in SC, and is comparable to the other three PWI USC satellites "they" want to transform it to: USC-Beaufort (10%), USC-Aiken (20%) and USC-Upstate/Greenville (21%).


http://media.collegeboard.com/digit...r-graduation-rates-for-four-year-colleges.pdf

25 State Universities With the Worst Graduation Rates

1. Great Basin College, NV 0%
2. Institute of Amer. Indian & Alaska Native Culture, NM 0%
3. Oklahoma State University Inst. of Technology, Okmulgee 0%
4. San Houston State University, Huntsville, TX 0%
5. Texas A&M University, Commerce 0%
6. Texas A&M International University, Laredo 0%
7. Alabama State University, Montgomery 0%
8. Macon State College, Macon, GA 0%
9. Dalton State College, Dover, DE 0%
10. Delaware State College, Dover 0%
11. Harris-Stowe State University, St. Louis 0%
12. Southern University at New Orleans 0%
13. Louisiana State University, Shreveport 0%
14. Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence, KS 1%
15. Oglala Lakota College, Kyle, SD 2%
16. University of Houston-Downtown, TX 2%
17. Purdue University-North Central Campus, Westville, IN 3%
18. Nevada State College, Henderson 3%
19. Northeastern Illinois University, Chicago 3%
20. University of the District of Columbia 3%
21. Chicago State University, IL 3%
22. University of Texas at Brownsville 3%
23. West Virginia University, Parkersburg 3%
24. University of Texas at El Paso 4%
25. Sul Ross State University, Alpine, TX 4%

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-universities-with-the-worst-graduation-rates/

 

[Mello Mello]

To keep the 14% number in a real world perspective, in the DC/DMV area, the four year graduation rate at Galludet is NINE percent, UMUC is SIX percent, Coppin State is FIVE percent and The University of the District of Columbia is THREE percent.

That SC State rate is about average for public HBCUs, ranks second behind next door neighbor Claflin among all HBCU's in SC, and is comparable to the other three PWI USC satellites "they" want to transform it to: USC-Beaufort (10%), USC-Aiken (20%) and USC-Upstate/Greenville (21%).


http://media.collegeboard.com/digit...r-graduation-rates-for-four-year-colleges.pdf

25 State Universities With the Worst Graduation Rates

1. Great Basin College, NV 0%
2. Institute of Amer. Indian & Alaska Native Culture, NM 0%
3. Oklahoma State University Inst. of Technology, Okmulgee 0%
4. San Houston State University, Huntsville, TX 0%
5. Texas A&M University, Commerce 0%
6. Texas A&M International University, Laredo 0%
7. Alabama State University, Montgomery 0%
8. Macon State College, Macon, GA 0%
9. Dalton State College, Dover, DE 0%
10. Delaware State College, Dover 0%
11. Harris-Stowe State University, St. Louis 0%
12. Southern University at New Orleans 0%
13. Louisiana State University, Shreveport 0%
14. Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence, KS 1%
15. Oglala Lakota College, Kyle, SD 2%
16. University of Houston-Downtown, TX 2%
17. Purdue University-North Central Campus, Westville, IN 3%
18. Nevada State College, Henderson 3%
19. Northeastern Illinois University, Chicago 3%
20. University of the District of Columbia 3%
21. Chicago State University, IL 3%
22. University of Texas at Brownsville 3%
23. West Virginia University, Parkersburg 3%
24. University of Texas at El Paso 4%
25. Sul Ross State University, Alpine, TX 4%

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-universities-with-the-worst-graduation-rates/

Yeah they been trying to lose the title of hbcu from UDC and those other universities in the dmv. Marion Berry was standing up for a few of them not to be changed. Word is they going after Howard to since their grad school is predominantly "other".

 

[doggish_098]

i graduated from there years ago they have been trying to get rid of the college for years. Well they dont want to get rid of it they want to turn it into USC-Orangeburg

 

[mozartte]

How do you overcome a 10 million dollar deficit and if you're in the business of educating and graduating students at 14% your business is failing.

You overcome it with a massive fundraiser from alums. Remember Cosby was a big HBCU fundraiser but black people let whites talk us into believing he is the bad guy.

 

[doggish_098]

You overcome it with a massive fundraiser from alums. Remember Cosby was a big HBCU fundraiser but black people let whites talk us into believing he is the bad guy.

its a state school you cant do that. those funds would go into a general fund with the state to help support other schools in the system.

 

[doggish_098]

the economic impact on the people of that town would be tremendous. either you get a job cleaning cutting crash or whatever at one of the colleges or your get a job at one of the factories in town. not much you can do to feed you family in little towns like that.

 

[durham]

This generation of Black kids won't band together and fight for shit. The state legislature slowly bled funding from that school for a decade, kids got dissulusioned and the best went to other schools.

Sad state that folks are finding ways to eliminate hbcu's that we don't attend. Bet that land magically becomes super valuable in two years.

All those Sec football teams, just wonder if those kids stayed at the hbcu's.

 

[futureshock]

To keep the 14% number in a real world perspective, in the DC/DMV area, the four year graduation rate at Galludet is NINE percent, UMUC is SIX percent, Coppin State is FIVE percent and The University of the District of Columbia is THREE percent.

That SC State rate is about average for public HBCUs, ranks second behind next door neighbor Claflin among all HBCU's in SC, and is comparable to the other three PWI USC satellites "they" want to transform it to: USC-Beaufort (10%), USC-Aiken (20%) and USC-Upstate/Greenville (21%).


http://media.collegeboard.com/digit...r-graduation-rates-for-four-year-colleges.pdf

25 State Universities With the Worst Graduation Rates

1. Great Basin College, NV 0%
2. Institute of Amer. Indian & Alaska Native Culture, NM 0%
3. Oklahoma State University Inst. of Technology, Okmulgee 0%
4. San Houston State University, Huntsville, TX 0%
5. Texas A&M University, Commerce 0%
6. Texas A&M International University, Laredo 0%
7. Alabama State University, Montgomery 0%
8. Macon State College, Macon, GA 0%
9. Dalton State College, Dover, DE 0%
10. Delaware State College, Dover 0%
11. Harris-Stowe State University, St. Louis 0%
12. Southern University at New Orleans 0%
13. Louisiana State University, Shreveport 0%
14. Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence, KS 1%
15. Oglala Lakota College, Kyle, SD 2%
16. University of Houston-Downtown, TX 2%
17. Purdue University-North Central Campus, Westville, IN 3%
18. Nevada State College, Henderson 3%
19. Northeastern Illinois University, Chicago 3%
20. University of the District of Columbia 3%
21. Chicago State University, IL 3%
22. University of Texas at Brownsville 3%
23. West Virginia University, Parkersburg 3%
24. University of Texas at El Paso 4%
25. Sul Ross State University, Alpine, TX 4%

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-universities-with-the-worst-graduation-rates/

thanks for putting that into some kind of perspective.

they want to turn it into USC-Orangeburg

 

[a1rimrocka]

SCSU needs to slow the bleeding a bit by dropping down to D2 in athletics.. screw pride at this point

Their new president taking a big pay raise after their financial troubles were announced didn't help either

i graduated from there years ago they have been trying to get rid of the college for years. Well they dont want to get rid of it they want to turn it into USC-Orangeburg

Been talking about doing the same thing for years in North Carolina.. UNC Winston-Salem & UNC Fayetteville

 

[simonmarcel]

Yeah they been trying to lose the title of hbcu from UDC and those other universities in the dmv. Marion Berry was standing up for a few of them not to be changed. Word is they going after Howard to since their grad school is predominantly "other".

UDC is a community college masquerading as a university. And a lot of those "other" at Howard are people who don't consider themselves "black"

 

[melonpecan]

its a state school you cant do that. those funds would go into a general fund with the state to help support other schools in the system.

Not true. If the alumni or a big donor or organization comes through and say "This money is for this purpose at this school for this program, blah blah" the state can't take it. It would be up to the president and their accounting office to make sure that the money either goes to where it is intended, needed, or to pay off debts if the instructions is for that purpose. Even if they were in for 20 million and you show up with a 5thou scholarship check, that money has to go to scholarships.

Part of the problem here is having a president who is willing to be in the middle of everything to find ways to make money without closing.

Correct and even if they could the alumni see the same reports and conditions. If they aren't contributing the school can't make them.

Not to mention I don't see how money would change the mindset of the kids enrolling to make them stay and graduate.

This is something I struggle with. Making kids want to graduate. Let me tell the problem: financial aid and refunds. This is how it goes...

I need money so i apply to go to school. It's a state school so tuition isn't that great, I will get a refund.

School starts 8/15, refunds are issued 9/1. 9/2 I withdraw and because it's within a certain timeframe, I don't have to pay for the classes I dropped.

Unbeknownst to me, instead of that refund coming from the government, it's now coming from the school and the government reimburses the school.

But 'I' have done this en mass for years...so much to the point where the government doesn't want to reimburse the school for funds paid on refunds from students who have dropped classes.


This happens enough, and schools go into effect with a SAP policy. Basically what will happen is NO ONE going to that school can get federal funds. What might be the case here is that before it has gotten to that point, the powers just said "shut it down". What some schools are starting to do is to issue refunds after the last day of full tuition payment. So for instance, you drop within 15 days you don't have to pay for the class. If it's been a month, you only pay for 50%, and it increases the further along in the semester you go. Schools are issuing refunds after the "You pay 100% of tuition for dropped classes" to ensure that students stay. Either they are going to flunk or work it out where they stay and do something IF they are only there for the money. A lot are.

It's sad with it being a HBCU. We are going through a similar situation with the three state ones we have here in Georgia and we can't forget about Morris Brown. Constant reminder of what could happen. Hopefully they don't shut down. They can operate on the bare minimum. If they have online classes, I say just do those exclusively until you can get the bills paid; that's what everyone wants anyway, online classes. If they do close, I'd like to see them reopen but to start the accreditation process with SACS the bill is at $200,000. For initial walk-throughs.



Even though it's not a HBCU, Georgia Perimeter was on probation with SACS for two years due to mismanagement of funds, (accounting stole 14 million). They have been operating but enrollment numbers went down. Sometime last month the powers decided that they should merge with Georgia State University as their two year school. Now that probation goes away...

 

[Joe Money]

To keep the 14% number in a real world perspective, in the DC/DMV area, the four year graduation rate at Galludet is NINE percent, UMUC is SIX percent, Coppin State is FIVE percent and The University of the District of Columbia is THREE percent.

That SC State rate is about average for public HBCUs, ranks second behind next door neighbor Claflin among all HBCU's in SC, and is comparable to the other three PWI USC satellites "they" want to transform it to: USC-Beaufort (10%), USC-Aiken (20%) and USC-Upstate/Greenville (21%).


http://media.collegeboard.com/digit...r-graduation-rates-for-four-year-colleges.pdf

25 State Universities With the Worst Graduation Rates

1. Great Basin College, NV 0%
2. Institute of Amer. Indian & Alaska Native Culture, NM 0%
3. Oklahoma State University Inst. of Technology, Okmulgee 0%
4. San Houston State University, Huntsville, TX 0%
5. Texas A&M University, Commerce 0%
6. Texas A&M International University, Laredo 0%
7. Alabama State University, Montgomery 0%
8. Macon State College, Macon, GA 0%
9. Dalton State College, Dover, DE 0%
10. Delaware State College, Dover 0%
11. Harris-Stowe State University, St. Louis 0%
12. Southern University at New Orleans 0%
13. Louisiana State University, Shreveport 0%
14. Haskell Indian Nations University, Lawrence, KS 1%
15. Oglala Lakota College, Kyle, SD 2%
16. University of Houston-Downtown, TX 2%
17. Purdue University-North Central Campus, Westville, IN 3%
18. Nevada State College, Henderson 3%
19. Northeastern Illinois University, Chicago 3%
20. University of the District of Columbia 3%
21. Chicago State University, IL 3%
22. University of Texas at Brownsville 3%
23. West Virginia University, Parkersburg 3%
24. University of Texas at El Paso 4%
25. Sul Ross State University, Alpine, TX 4%

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/25-universities-with-the-worst-graduation-rates/

thanks for putting that into some kind of perspective.

UDC is a community college masquerading as a university. And a lot of those "other" at Howard are people who don't consider themselves "black"

You mean West Indians and Africans, or actual "other" minorities (Arabs, Pakistanis, Indians, etc.)

 

[Mello Mello]

UDC is a community college masquerading as a university. And a lot of those "other" at Howard are people who don't consider themselves "black"

UDC has a community college and a flagship campus. They've basicslly gutted they university to be a community college.

And the other you speak of is non-African ancestry. If you see the grad school it's mostly non black.

Several other university in the area have been trying to buy the other hbcu's. From what I'm hearing it's Catholic University and George Washington.

They've been installing black presidents and chairmen on the school committees to do their bidding. At Howard they have chairs that are bleeding the university and over at UDC they had a president that started early stages of that uni downfall from hbcu status. Howard has been offering to encourage more international students to attend.

 

[futureshock]

Vote of Closure for SC State: A Warning Shot For The Ages

South Carolina State University will find it nearly impossible to recover from today's vote by the South Carolina House Ways and Means Subcommittee to close the university for one year while all leadership and students are swept out of its doors.

In the span of about two hours, that vote has spurred scrutiny from the school's accrediting body, likely sunk the university's credit rating, convinced potential students to apply elsewhere, and given alumni a sense of lost hope, never to be regained. So even if the South Carolina legislature overwhelmingly votes down the measure, which is unlikely to happen given Gov. Nikki Haley's view on the school, you can bet that the work of a few hours will likely end nearly 120 years of black history and empowerment in the state. From WLTX in South Carolina:

"The governor certainly understands the frustrations of the House Committee," said Cheney Adams, a spokeswoman for Governor Nikki Haley. "SC State's leadership has been unable to provide straight answers on the condition of the schools finances for months, something she finds totally unacceptable."

Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges President Belle Wheelan says that if the measure passes, SCSU would instantly lose its accreditation by way of the unprecedented legislative action.

"We don't accredit institutions that are not in business," Dr. Wheelan said.

Dr. Wheelan, who personally provided counsel to the board last September, said that the university is scheduled to submit a report on its progress in April, and is expected to receive action from the SACSCOC board in June. That action could either keep SCSU on probation for another year for satisfactory progress, remove probation, or revoke accreditation altogether.

"Irrespective of what the subcommittee has done today, South Carolina State remains accredited and on our agenda for June," she said.

There are some public HBCU boards which have weathered corrupt board dealings - Southern University and Alabama State University are two which come to recent memory. And some HBCU boards are so driven by political loyalties that their campuses have or currently suffer under inept leadership - see Norfolk State University and Morgan State University.

But South Carolina State has been, going back more than five years, a volatile mix of self-interest, meddling and political jockeying and overall shadiness - all which have led to the unceremonious beginning of the end for one of the nation's great black colleges. This combined, with increasing cuts from state and federal legislature to SCSU and public colleges nationwide, only expedited the institutional suicide attempt.

And while all of the aforementioned boards aren't in the same financial straits as SCSU, they should be increasingly uneasy at the prospect of any Republican leadership feeling empowered to take drastic action against public HBCUs in the name of austerity and efficiency.

It only takes one bad precedent to create a bad harvest for the the entire community of HBCUs - Grambling State, Cheyney, Elizabeth City State, and Southern are not far off from a similar fate without strong leadership, and strong advocacy from students and alumni.

HBCU students and alumni can no longer expect for states to 'do the right thing' by our schools. In fact, in some southern states, it is doing the wrong thing by HBCUs which makes for good economic and social policy. Until we realize that, until we all become active participants in the national HBCU community, today's efforts will be the blueprint of closure for many struggling HBCUs which deserve more state support, but suffer from a lack of advocacy to balance the anti-HBCU sentiments which is growing within many state governments around the country.

What is needed now for South Carolina State is immediate, strong leadership beginning with its president. Regardless of who the board would seek to install in 2017, the school would require instant stardom in the office of the president to reinvigorate alumni, to win friends and allies in state legislature, and to recruit a new caliber of student to help in building the brand of a new SCSU.

Fortunately, there is such a person with the pedigree and experience in land-grant leadership, and legislative savvy smoothed out by rough southern racial and economic politics. There is a person with youth, with faculty experience, and with HBCU acumen shaped in public and private sectors.

That person is M. Christopher Brown II, former Alcorn State University president and alumnus of South Carolina State University.

If the state wants to keep SCSU, and the impact it yields for the state and the region, it would be wise to keep the school's doors unlocked just long enough to find an alumni directory and to find Dr. Brown.

Or, it can lock the doors and open the period of mourning for one of the nation's true historic and educational jewels.

http://www.hbcudigest.com/articles/...for-sc-state-a-warning-shot-for-the-ages.html

 

[doggish_098]

Vote of Closure for SC State: A Warning Shot For The Ages

South Carolina State University will find it nearly impossible to recover from today's vote by the South Carolina House Ways and Means Subcommittee to close the university for one year while all leadership and students are swept out of its doors.

In the span of about two hours, that vote has spurred scrutiny from the school's accrediting body, likely sunk the university's credit rating, convinced potential students to apply elsewhere, and given alumni a sense of lost hope, never to be regained. So even if the South Carolina legislature overwhelmingly votes down the measure, which is unlikely to happen given Gov. Nikki Haley's view on the school, you can bet that the work of a few hours will likely end nearly 120 years of black history and empowerment in the state. From WLTX in South Carolina:

"The governor certainly understands the frustrations of the House Committee," said Cheney Adams, a spokeswoman for Governor Nikki Haley. "SC State's leadership has been unable to provide straight answers on the condition of the schools finances for months, something she finds totally unacceptable."

Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges President Belle Wheelan says that if the measure passes, SCSU would instantly lose its accreditation by way of the unprecedented legislative action.

"We don't accredit institutions that are not in business," Dr. Wheelan said.

Dr. Wheelan, who personally provided counsel to the board last September, said that the university is scheduled to submit a report on its progress in April, and is expected to receive action from the SACSCOC board in June. That action could either keep SCSU on probation for another year for satisfactory progress, remove probation, or revoke accreditation altogether.

"Irrespective of what the subcommittee has done today, South Carolina State remains accredited and on our agenda for June," she said.

There are some public HBCU boards which have weathered corrupt board dealings - Southern University and Alabama State University are two which come to recent memory. And some HBCU boards are so driven by political loyalties that their campuses have or currently suffer under inept leadership - see Norfolk State University and Morgan State University.

But South Carolina State has been, going back more than five years, a volatile mix of self-interest, meddling and political jockeying and overall shadiness - all which have led to the unceremonious beginning of the end for one of the nation's great black colleges. This combined, with increasing cuts from state and federal legislature to SCSU and public colleges nationwide, only expedited the institutional suicide attempt.

And while all of the aforementioned boards aren't in the same financial straits as SCSU, they should be increasingly uneasy at the prospect of any Republican leadership feeling empowered to take drastic action against public HBCUs in the name of austerity and efficiency.

It only takes one bad precedent to create a bad harvest for the the entire community of HBCUs - Grambling State, Cheyney, Elizabeth City State, and Southern are not far off from a similar fate without strong leadership, and strong advocacy from students and alumni.

HBCU students and alumni can no longer expect for states to 'do the right thing' by our schools. In fact, in some southern states, it is doing the wrong thing by HBCUs which makes for good economic and social policy. Until we realize that, until we all become active participants in the national HBCU community, today's efforts will be the blueprint of closure for many struggling HBCUs which deserve more state support, but suffer from a lack of advocacy to balance the anti-HBCU sentiments which is growing within many state governments around the country.

What is needed now for South Carolina State is immediate, strong leadership beginning with its president. Regardless of who the board would seek to install in 2017, the school would require instant stardom in the office of the president to reinvigorate alumni, to win friends and allies in state legislature, and to recruit a new caliber of student to help in building the brand of a new SCSU.

Fortunately, there is such a person with the pedigree and experience in land-grant leadership, and legislative savvy smoothed out by rough southern racial and economic politics. There is a person with youth, with faculty experience, and with HBCU acumen shaped in public and private sectors.

That person is M. Christopher Brown II, former Alcorn State University president and alumnus of South Carolina State University.

If the state wants to keep SCSU, and the impact it yields for the state and the region, it would be wise to keep the school's doors unlocked just long enough to find an alumni directory and to find Dr. Brown.

Or, it can lock the doors and open the period of mourning for one of the nation's true historic and educational jewels.

http://www.hbcudigest.com/articles/...for-sc-state-a-warning-shot-for-the-ages.html

they had a good president had the school going in the right direction he graduated from the college was a professor there for many years and they fired his ass. why you ask because the enrollment had risen too much.

 

[bgque12]

When the economy crashed my brother, who is a financial guy, told me that it was the beginning and that malls would be next then colleges would begin to close after that. My alma mater, Cheyney University, the oldest HBCU is in financial trouble as well. HBCU's will close then white schools as well.

 

[Joe Money]

When the economy crashed my brother, who is a financial guy, told me that it was the beginning and that malls would be next then colleges would begin to close after that. My alma mater, Cheyney University, the oldest HBCU is in financial trouble as well. HBCU's will close then white schools as well.

Why colleges?

 

[simonmarcel]

Why colleges?

If the economy is down, that's less tax that's collected. Which means, less govt funds going to colleges(education is one of the first things that get cut). Also, alumni have less money available to donate, and local business who would otherwise donate, don't.

 

[bgque12]

Why colleges?

Basically, colleges have priced themselves ou of the market and at black schools enrollment has been declining for years and there is less money revenue coming in

 

[ronmch20]

Where are all the fucking black millionaires who could easily pony up 10 mil to keep this HBCU going. JayZ, Cosby, Dre, Will Smith, Jordan, Sam L. Jackson, and a whole lot of others should put their money where their blackness is.

 

[Joe Money]

If the economy is down, that's less tax that's collected. Which means, less govt funds going to colleges(education is one of the first things that get cut). Also, alumni have less money available to donate, and local business who would otherwise donate, don't.

 

[dasailr03]

yeah but the underlying issue will still be the same. All you would have done is punt the ball. Until the underlying issue is address why bother.

I hear all this talk but wouldn't things be totally different if students who chose to attend college, have a REAL WORLD plan of action to graduate 4 yrs? I mean life is going to happen and things are going to come up but if you don't have a plan and actively work that plan you are doomed to fail. I wonder how many of these students attend these schools and have no real world plan to graduate in the 4yrs required no matter what?

Where are all the fucking black millionaires who could easily pony up 10 mil to keep this HBCU going. JayZ, Cosby, Dre, Will Smith, Jordan, Sam L. Jackson, and a whole lot of others should put their money where their blackness is.

 

[futureshock]

Where are all the fucking black millionaires who could easily pony up 10 mil to keep this HBCU going. JayZ, Cosby, Dre, Will Smith, Jordan, Sam L. Jackson, and a whole lot of others should put their money where their blackness is.

someone made a post that black churches have taken in something like 400+ billion since 1980. we had the money all along.

http://urbanintellectuals.com/2013/05/14/black-churches-have-collected-420-billion/

 

[da_monumental_1]

The problems stem from here. White people hide stuff in plain site.

http://www.aplu.org/library/executi...atch-funding-for-1890-land-grant-universities

"Although 1890 land grant universities produce talented students, innovative research and state of the art practices in agriculture and STEM disciplines that are geared toward improving life in rural and high risk communities, states are failing to provide the nation’s 1890 black land grant universities the same level of one to one matching dollars they provide other land grant institutions that receive federal funding."

Morrill Land-Grant Acts

 

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Tonight On The C.O.W.S. @ 8PM EST

http://www.blacktalkradionetwork.com/thecontextofwhitesupremacy/

Dr. Lonnie Randolph, Jr. visits The Context of White Supremacy. Dr. Randolph is a practicing optometrist and the president of the South Carolina chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Dr. Randolph, the local NAACP, current students and alumni have been working to counter the economic terrorism aimed at South Carolina State University.

A South Carolina House subcommittee just called for the historically black institution to be closed for two years, and the state Legislative Black Caucus has declared a lack of confidence in SCSU President Thomas Elzey. He was placed on administrative leave this week. While the university faculty and staff may have made errors, it's been reported that powerful Whites have undermined South Carolina State by withholding funds and rewarding "schools for building programs that compete with S.C. State".

We'll also get Dr. Randolph's views on the South Pointe High School vandalism as well as George Stinney.

 

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Where are all the fucking black millionaires who could easily pony up 10 mil to keep this HBCU going. JayZ, Cosby, Dre, Will Smith, Jordan, Sam L. Jackson, and a whole lot of others should put their money where their blackness is.

Kats always spending other people's money