House GOP Cut $61 Billion, But Increase Defense Spending 2%

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Republican committee attempts to end small airport program

source: Yahoo news

Rural air subsidies test resolve to cut spending





WASHINGTON – A senator who is a key figure in aviation issues vowed Thursday to fight off an attempt to eliminate a program that subsidizes air service to small airports, often in remote communities.

The proposal is shaping up as an early test in the new Congress of conservatives' zeal for shrinking the federal government.

Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller said the proposal to eliminate the $200 million essential air service program is a "nonstarter." He is the chief sponsor of a bill to authorize Federal Aviation Administration programs for the next two years that opponents are trying to amend to eliminate the air service subsidies.

"It makes no sense to choke off rural residents' access to air travel and their connection to jobs and family," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. "I will fight tooth and nail against any proposal to eliminate or cut funding for this critical program."

The program pays airlines to provide scheduled service to about 150 communities, from Muscle Shoals, Ala., to Pelican, Alaska. There are five airports in West Virginia with subsidized service.

"I think it will be a test of the willingness to cut spending," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who proposed the amendment.

In the House, the Republican Study Committee — a group of conservative lawmakers — has also proposed killing the program.

But several conservative senators from rural states declined to discuss McCain's amendment when approached by The Associated Press.

"I'll have to see it first. I haven't seen the amendment," said Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo. Two communities in Wyoming — Laramie and Worland — receive subsidized service, according to the Transportation Department.

"I just don't know about that," echoed Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. Three communities in Utah — Moab, Vernal and Cedar City — receive subsidized service

The program was created to ensure that less-profitable routes to small airports wouldn't be eliminated when airline service was deregulated in 1978. Subsidies per airline passenger as of June 1, 2010, ranged as high as $5,223 in Ely, Nev., to as low as $9.21 in Thief River Falls, Minn., according to Transportation Department data for the lower 48 states.

But critics say the airports often serve too few people to merit the amount of money spent in subsidies. Urban growth over the past three decades has also placed transportation alternatives — other airports, trains and bus service — within a reasonable distance of some communities receiving subsidies.

Studies show that in a lot of those communities people drive to larger airports to get better service at a lower cost than they can get at the smaller airport, even with subsidized air service, said Severin Borenstein, a University of California-Berkeley business professor who is an expert on airline competition.

"Some communities can make a credible claim they need the service, particularly in Alaska, but I think those are a relatively small part of the program," he said.

A 2009 Government Accountability report said demographic shifts were also depopulating some of the communities served by program. As a result, the reports said, that on average just over a third of the seats were filled on subsidized flights. For commercial flights nationwide, the average was about 80 percent.

The program has been remarkably resilient, partly due to the protection it receives from lawmakers from rural states and districts. It has been proposed for cuts or elimination many times over the years, but continues to grow.

"It's exactly in the political sweet spot," Borenstein said. Lawmakers don't feel it's worth upsetting the few people the program serves to achieve what amounts to a modest savings in federal budget terms, he said.


Supporters say the small airports and their air service are important to the communities' ability to attract investment and jobs. The Obama administration sought an increase in the program last year.

Four Democratic senators — Mark Begich of Alaska, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Robert Casey of Pennsylvania and Joe Manchin of West Virginia — sent a letter to McCain Thursday urging him to give up his attempt to kill the program.

"Eliminating the program will have a devastating impact on the economies of rural communities," their letter says.

"At a moment when the nation's economic recovery is starting to gain momentum, it makes little sense to reduce personal and business travel volume by cutting off residents of rural areas," the letter says.
The pending aviation bill would give the Transportation Department more flexibility in structuring contracts with airlines to improve the air subsidies program. It would also let the Transportation Department adjust contracts to take into account rising fuel costs.
 
A war economy.

source: Lincoln Tribune


Efforts to cut the U.S. federal budget to counter a rising deficit projected at $1.6 trillion this year are now moving to the Democratic Party dominated Senate.

The Republican controlled House of Representatives passed a bill early Saturday with about $60 billion in spending cuts.

During Saturday’s early morning debate House Speaker John Boehner said the next few months will be the most important Washington has seen in decades.

In a vote which ended at four in the morning, lawmakers voted almost entirely along party lines. Most Republicans were in favor of the bill to cut current spending by about 14 percent, while Democrats were in opposition.

The bill is a stop-gap measure known as a continuing resolution. It establishes spending levels for the rest of the fiscal year ending in September.

But Democratic lawmakers in the Senate have promised to remove many of the bill’s cuts.
These include eliminating spending to carry out President Barack Obama’s health care reform law. The cuts also target federal funding for family planning, the government’s ability to enforce environmental regulations, education programs, subsidies for the poor and foreign aid.

The bill does include increases, such as a nearly two percent rise for defense spending, despite some internal Republican opposition.

During the House debate, California Republican John Campbell was one of those urging deeper defense cuts. "There are many weapons systems funded in the Defense Department which the Defense Department does not want. They are there because of influential members of Congress who have put them in. Defense has always been the most earmarked section of the entire budget," he said.

Democratic lawmakers, such as Georgia’s Sanford Bishop, warned against cuts that would affect war veterans. “If this bill is signed into law it will hurt our economic recovery which in turn will affect our veterans. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, more than 15 percent of Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans are unemployed, far higher than the national jobless rate. If we follow through with some of these disastrous cuts we will see that rate go higher," he said.

The Senate is expected to spend the next few weeks debating and writing its own version of a government funding bill. Senate Democrats say they also want to begin shrinking the deficit, but not the way House Republicans voted for.

If no compromise is found by March 4, when current funding expires, a U.S. government shutdown becomes a possibility, unless all parties, including Democratic President Obama, can agree on a short-term spending bill.
 
OH NO!!!!!! The Military will stay STRONG!!


:lol:


Has anyone suggested we weaken the military?

I can't and haven't seen one person make a sound defense of maintaining Cold War era military spending when there is no Cold War. Everyone else takes their money and spends it to build their country (education, infrastructure, technology) while we spend our money defending them from NOBODY.
 
I guess a lot of whites ultimately want

military rule and martial law (we can get rid of all those pesky civil liberties)

like in your typical Banana Republic or Middle East Dictatorship.

YAY for increased war spending. It's always good to take the declining wealth of the United States and use it for the sole purpose of destroying even more wealth elsewhere.

YAY FOR THAT!
 
Has anyone suggested we weaken the military?

I can't and haven't seen one person make a sound defense of maintaining Cold War era military spending when there is no Cold War. Everyone else takes their money and spends it to build their country (education, infrastructure, technology) while we spend our money defending them from NOBODY.

So it's an absolute argument with you, and your side?

So, the military has nothing to do with infrastructure, technology, or education?

Besides, "everyone" else can do it because they know that the US will keep things in order for the most part.
 
So it's an absolute argument with you, and your side?

So, the military has nothing to do with infrastructure, technology, or education?

Besides, "everyone" else can do it because they know that the US will keep things in order for the most part.

Not for me but when Republicans want to cut funding for various education programs, federally and on the state level, but want to increase defense money, it appears it is to them.

But I think we can agree there is a finite amount of money and when you spend a dollar on a weapon that the Pentagon doesn't want, that's a dollar you can't spend on anything else.

That's exactly my point as far as how other so-called "First World" nations handle their defense.


Still waiting on an avowed Republican to defend their line of thinking on this.
 
Of course actinanass is going to love the bloated military budget. Texas is the biggest welfare queen for defense pork in the union.

source: Yahoo News


MILITARY SPENDING, FARM SUBSIDIES ARE SAFE FROM BUDGET CUTS


WASHINGTON -- In their campaign to whack away at what they describe as an overgrown and out-of-control federal government, conservative Republicans insist "everything is on the table." No programs are too popular, no entitlements too sacred to escape a ferociously wielded budget knife, they claim.


House Speaker John Boehner has said it, as has House Budget Committee Chairman [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Paul [COLOR=#366388 !important]Ryan[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. Newly elected Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has said it, as has veteran Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga. But like so much of the rhetoric that befogs the nation's capital, it is meaningless, empty, disingenuous.

Some favored programs have clearly rolled right off the cutting table, while others were merely nicked with manicure scissors. Take military spending, which accounts for about 20 percent of the federal budget. So far, there is no agreement among [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]House [COLOR=#366388 !important]Republicans[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] about paring back the Pentagon -- even though Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has recommended cutting $78 billion over five years. Some GOP members of Congress think Gates goes too far.

Not that Gates' proposed cuts would make much of a dent. The Pentagon's budget is still expected to be around $553 billion next year. Indeed, the United States will still spend more on its armed forces than the next 10 competitors COMBINED. Fifty years after President Eisenhower warned against the increasing power of the "military-industrial complex," and two decades after the collapse of the communist empire that fed it, the Pentagon retains enormous power over U.S. purse strings.

An even more puzzling budget oversight is agricultural subsidies, a form of welfare left over from the Great Depression. Republicans readily denounce any government handout that goes to average Americans -- characterizing even unemployment assistance as an unnecessary subsidy to the undeserving.

Yet, the much ballyhooed list of proposed budgets cuts submitted by the ultraconservative Republican [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Study [COLOR=#366388 !important]Committee[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] takes a hangnail off agriculture subsidies, leaving the massive welfare program largely intact. That's an estimated $12 billion to $15 billion a year.

Republicans claim an abiding faith in an unfettered free markets. Don't they want the government out of the farm business? Shouldn't farmers face the caprice of climate and competition without depending on handouts from the taxpayers?

Apparently not. The so-called "counter-cyclical payments" protect growers of certain commodities -- corn and cotton, soybeans and peanuts, among others -- from price drops, giving them a freedom from the "free market" that most entrepreneurs would envy. Other subsidies include direct payments that are more like traditional welfare but without any requirement that you work or get job training.

"The five billion in direct payments go to farmers whether they farm or not," said Sallie James, trade policy analyst at the [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]libertarian-leaning [COLOR=#366388 !important]Cato [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Institute[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], which has long criticized agricultural subsidies. "I don't know how you could characterize it as anything other than welfare, except that the means-testing for other types of welfare is far more strict."

James is certainly right about that. You think the bulk of the money goes to struggling "family farms," where the Williams or the Cunninghams have tilled the soil for generations? Not so. The family farm is a dying breed, rarer than the giant panda.

More than 60 percent of taxpayer-funded subsidies go to "large-scale farms with gross annual sales of $250,000 or more," according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture website. And they'll continue to collect despite the fact that farm incomes have soared over the last year.

No ambitious politician wants to cross the farm lobby, as a recent [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Iowa[/COLOR][/COLOR] speech by Newt Gingrich attests. He had kind words for those wasteful subsidies of corn-based ethanol -- a sure sign that he's seriously eyeing a presidential bid. Corn-rich Iowa is an early hurdle in the presidential primary marathon.

Of course, as James noted, maintaining agricultural subsidies is a bipartisan protection racket, duly supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. U.S. Rep. [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Sanford [COLOR=#366388 !important]Bishop[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], D-Ga., supports them, as does Sen. Saxby Chambliss R-Ga. So much for putting everything on the budget-cutting table.
 
Can we, and by "we" I mean all of us, Republican, Democrat, Independent, acknowledge that a half trillion dollar budget for defense isn't about a strong military or security but about defense contractors? Can we do that? Anything else intellectually dishonest.
 
Not for me but when Republicans want to cut funding for various education programs, federally and on the state level, but want to increase defense money, it appears it is to them.

But I think we can agree there is a finite amount of money and when you spend a dollar on a weapon that the Pentagon doesn't want, that's a dollar you can't spend on anything else.

That's exactly my point as far as how other so-called "First World" nations handle their defense.


Still waiting on an avowed Republican to defend their line of thinking on this.


Am I the only one who thinks that the education system is failing? I mean damn how much money should we put in a failing system of corrupted unions, and dirty school board politicians? Why is it that the school districts that use less money, show better results overall?

Besides, the problems with the education system isn't money, it's discipline.

Of course actinanass is going to love the bloated military budget. Texas is the biggest welfare queen for defense pork in the union.

source: Yahoo News


MILITARY SPENDING, FARM SUBSIDIES ARE SAFE FROM BUDGET CUTS


WASHINGTON -- In their campaign to whack away at what they describe as an overgrown and out-of-control federal government, conservative Republicans insist "everything is on the table." No programs are too popular, no entitlements too sacred to escape a ferociously wielded budget knife, they claim.


House Speaker John Boehner has said it, as has House Budget Committee Chairman [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Paul [COLOR=#366388 !important]Ryan[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. Newly elected Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has said it, as has veteran Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga. But like so much of the rhetoric that befogs the nation's capital, it is meaningless, empty, disingenuous.

Some favored programs have clearly rolled right off the cutting table, while others were merely nicked with manicure scissors. Take military spending, which accounts for about 20 percent of the federal budget. So far, there is no agreement among [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]House [COLOR=#366388 !important]Republicans[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] about paring back the Pentagon -- even though Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has recommended cutting $78 billion over five years. Some GOP members of Congress think Gates goes too far.

Not that Gates' proposed cuts would make much of a dent. The Pentagon's budget is still expected to be around $553 billion next year. Indeed, the United States will still spend more on its armed forces than the next 10 competitors COMBINED. Fifty years after President Eisenhower warned against the increasing power of the "military-industrial complex," and two decades after the collapse of the communist empire that fed it, the Pentagon retains enormous power over U.S. purse strings.

An even more puzzling budget oversight is agricultural subsidies, a form of welfare left over from the Great Depression. Republicans readily denounce any government handout that goes to average Americans -- characterizing even unemployment assistance as an unnecessary subsidy to the undeserving.

Yet, the much ballyhooed list of proposed budgets cuts submitted by the ultraconservative Republican [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Study [COLOR=#366388 !important]Committee[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] takes a hangnail off agriculture subsidies, leaving the massive welfare program largely intact. That's an estimated $12 billion to $15 billion a year.

Republicans claim an abiding faith in an unfettered free markets. Don't they want the government out of the farm business? Shouldn't farmers face the caprice of climate and competition without depending on handouts from the taxpayers?

Apparently not. The so-called "counter-cyclical payments" protect growers of certain commodities -- corn and cotton, soybeans and peanuts, among others -- from price drops, giving them a freedom from the "free market" that most entrepreneurs would envy. Other subsidies include direct payments that are more like traditional welfare but without any requirement that you work or get job training.

"The five billion in direct payments go to farmers whether they farm or not," said Sallie James, trade policy analyst at the [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]libertarian-leaning [COLOR=#366388 !important]Cato [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Institute[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], which has long criticized agricultural subsidies. "I don't know how you could characterize it as anything other than welfare, except that the means-testing for other types of welfare is far more strict."

James is certainly right about that. You think the bulk of the money goes to struggling "family farms," where the Williams or the Cunninghams have tilled the soil for generations? Not so. The family farm is a dying breed, rarer than the giant panda.

More than 60 percent of taxpayer-funded subsidies go to "large-scale farms with gross annual sales of $250,000 or more," according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture website. And they'll continue to collect despite the fact that farm incomes have soared over the last year.

No ambitious politician wants to cross the farm lobby, as a recent [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Iowa[/COLOR][/COLOR] speech by Newt Gingrich attests. He had kind words for those wasteful subsidies of corn-based ethanol -- a sure sign that he's seriously eyeing a presidential bid. Corn-rich Iowa is an early hurdle in the presidential primary marathon.

Of course, as James noted, maintaining agricultural subsidies is a bipartisan protection racket, duly supported by Democrats and Republicans alike. U.S. Rep. [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Sanford [COLOR=#366388 !important]Bishop[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], D-Ga., supports them, as does Sen. Saxby Chambliss R-Ga. So much for putting everything on the budget-cutting table.

typical...
 
defense contractors have
been getting rich. hard to believe
but we have let them bankrupt
our country. so, let's give them more.

tax money bails out corps.
tax money bails out wall street.

oh and we know you voted for an end
to the war efforts but we can't do
that right now.

we know there are no jobs out there but
inflation's a bitch so, we're gonna cut alot
of your services and keep the prices of goods
and services at their highest. don't complain,
we threw u a bone when we extended benefits
for the unemployed.

bottom line
don't tell me you are cutting this and
that yet damn near a trillion dollars
of tax money is budgeted for a war we voted
for an end to.
we can't afford it.:(:confused::smh:
more money down the drain
 
America has to keep a strong military so they can play world police, plus they have to keep a eye on those pesky chinese.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the education system is failing?

You prove this point every time you post. No really!



Besides, the problems with the education system isn't money, it's discipline.


Have you seen the schools in the majority minority areas and the majority white areas? When was the last time they built a school in those areas?



typical...

If you say so, but is it true? Fort Hood, the largest military base in the western world?
 
source: CNN

GOP knocks Democratic proposal to cut oil company tax breaks
<TABLE class="cnn_avtr cnn_pt_tmar4 cnn_pt_avtr" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top></TD><TD vAlign=top>By: CNN Congressional Producer Ted Barrett
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Washington (CNN) - Senate Democrats faced criticism Tuesday for urging House Republicans to cut "taxpayer-funded handouts to big oil companies" less than a week after several Democrats joined Republicans to defeat a Senate amendment that would have made similar cuts.

"Errr, this is a little embarrassing," said Michael Steel, spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, in an e-mail blasted to Capitol Hill reporters.

Steel blamed Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, who leads the message operation for Senate Democrats, for the apparent oversight.

Schumer and other Democrats, including the other three top Democratic leaders, sent a letter to Boehner Tuesday suggesting House Republicans do away with tax breaks for oil companies as part of the Republicans' ongoing effort to scrub wasteful spending and cut the deficit.

"We are concerned that some of the cuts you may propose could undermine future growth just as our economy is beginning to recover," said the Democrats' letter. "Instead, we urge you to consider ending a number of tax loopholes and other subsidies that benefit big oil and gas companies."

However, six politically centrist Senate Democrats voted against paring back "unjustified tax expenditures related to oil and gas production by large oil companies," in the words of amendment sponsor Sen. Carl Levin, D-Michigan, when he proposed it last week to cover the cost of repealing part of the health care reform law.

Republicans argued a repeal of the subsides would amount to a tax hike on the oil companies.

"So Sen. Schumer is suggesting that the Republican House should pass job-destroying tax hikes that even the Democrat-controlled Senate doesn't support?" Steel asked.

"We understand Sen. Schumer has sent a letter over to Republicans today, indicating the need to cut spending," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell confidently told a bank of television cameras in the Capitol. "We don't really believe you cut spending by raising taxes."

A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid issued a statement late Tuesday accusing Republicans of defending "government giveaways to their buddies at big oil companies making billions in profits" and asked why Republicans would take cuts in subsidies to oil companies off the table. The statement didn't mention the six centrist Democrats who last week voted against canceling the tax breaks.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the education system is failing? I mean damn how much money should we put in a failing system of corrupted unions, and dirty school board politicians? Why is it that the school districts that use less money, show better results overall?

Besides, the problems with the education system isn't money, it's discipline.


But Republicans never offer any new suggestions except take money from schools. How does giving less money to schools solve any of the problems you pointed out?

It's funny how you liberals demonize the institutions that give you life.


My mother?

I guess this means you have nothing relevant to add to the discussion.


Clearly.
 
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But Republicans never offer any new suggestions except take money from schools. How does giving less money to schools solve any of the problems you pointed out?




My mother?




Clearly.

I think they have, but it gets no coverage.

How about examining how some school districts succeed more than others?

The blatant truth is, schools are screwed up because the American family is screwed up. You bring economic prosperity across the board, then schools would actually be better learning environment. I'll make this simple. If there's clear economic progress in nearly every area, more people would take notice on how their kids are learning. As long as you have people living off the government, the less people would care about how their kids are being taught. Now, please do not misunderstand. This isn't a blanket statement towards everyone *including myself* that came up hard. However, there's some truth to the numerous cases in the inner city.

The more positive examples in our community, the more kids will pursue a good education over the "hustle".

*edit* Schools could change their *one size fits all* approach to education. That's one thing they could change...
 
Congress Cuts Winter Heating Aid For The Poor While Boosting The Defense Budget

source: Think Progress


Poverty in America is only getting worse, with data showing rising income inequality and the startling fact that half of all Americans are now either in poverty or considered low-income. Were it not for the government programs that comprise the social safety net, those numbers would be even worse. More than a quarter would live in poverty without the safety net, according to one study, and Social Security alone kept 14 million out of poverty last year. Despite that, Congress — and particularly Republicans in Congress — have made cuts to various programs meant to aid the poorest Americans.

Congress reached a deal Thursday to avert a shutdown that would have begun at midnight tonight, and in doing so, Republicans found another low-income program to target, cutting funding for subsidies that help the poor stay warm during the winter by nearly 25 percent. At the same time, however, the Pentagon’s budget is getting a 1 percent boost, as the Associated Press noted:
Highlights of the $1 trillion-plus 2012 spending legislation in Congress:
—$518 billion for the Pentagon’s core budget, a 1 percent boost, excluding military operations overseas. [...]
—$3.5 billion for low-income heating and utility subsidies, a cut of about 25 percent.
The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) has become increasingly vital for American families affected by the recession, and it is utilized more and more by military families. One of every five families using LIHEAP is a military family, a 156 percent increase from 2008. Congress, however, decided to cut that program to give a boost to a budget that already makes up 20 percent of the country’s total budget and has been spared in multiple spending agreements this year (the super committee trigger a notable exception).

Plenty of evidence exists that Congress should be focused on investing into programs that boost economic growth and job creation, rather than chasing fiscal austerity toward another recession. If it insists on cutting spending to deal with the deficit now, however, the least it could do is not take the knife to each and every program that helps the poor.
 
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