Hezbollah Leader to Bush: 'Shut Up'

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Feb 9, 11:54 AM (ET)
Associated Press
By SAM F. GHATTAS

BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - The leader of Hezbollah, heading a march by hundreds of thousands of Shiite Muslims Thursday, said President Bush and his secretary of state should "shut up" after they accused Syria and Iran of fueling protests over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

Denmark, meanwhile, said it had temporarily closed its diplomatic mission in Beirut, which was burned by protesters Sunday, and all staff had left Lebanon.

Danes feared religious processions in Muslim countries Thursday to mark the Shiite festival of Ashoura would spill over into violence against its diplomats and soldiers after days of protests over the caricatures, which were first published in a Danish newspaper in September.

About 2,000 hard-line Muslims also rallied and burned a Danish flag Thursday in the Bangladeshi capital of Dhaka.

In Beirut, Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah urged Muslims worldwide to keep demonstrating until there is an apology over the drawings and Europe passes laws forbidding insults to the prophet.

The head of the guerrilla group, which is backed by Iran and Syria, spoke before a mass Ashoura procession. Whipping up the crowds on the most solemn day for Shiites worldwide, Nasrallah declared:

"Defending the prophet should continue all over the world. Let Condoleezza Rice and Bush and all the tyrants shut up. We are an Islamic nation that cannot tolerate, be silent or be lax when they insult our prophet and sanctities."

"We will uphold the messenger of God not only by our voices but also by our blood," he told the crowds, estimated by organizers at about 700,000. Police had no final estimates but said the figure was likely to be even higher.

Speaking about the controversy for the first time on Wednesday, Bush condemned the deadly rioting sparked by the cartoons and urged foreign leaders to halt the spreading violence. Rice said Iran and Syria "have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this to their own purposes. And the world ought to call them on it."

Iran has rejected the U.S. accusations. Syria has not commented publicly.

In protests throughout the Muslim world, demonstrators who saw the drawings as deeply insulting to Islam have attacked embassies in Syria, Lebanon and Iran and rioted in Afghanistan. Islam is interpreted to forbid any illustrations of the prophet.

Jyllands-Posten, the Danish paper that first published the drawings, apologized last week for offending Muslims but stood by its decision to print the cartoons, citing freedom of speech.

Other European publications recently reprinted the drawings, which included an image of Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped with a burning fuse, in a show of solidarity.

Denmark's government has said it could not apologize over a newspaper's publication.

In Brussels, Belgium, Mohamed Ahmed Sherif, chairman of the Libyan-based World Islamic Call Society, said Muslims see the drawings as a direct attack on their values and called the decision to print them in European newspapers a "hate program."

Sherif, speaking during a visit Brussels where he met European Union officials, said the cartoons only serve to fuel extremism.

"Nobody should blame the Muslims if they are unhappy about the images of the Prophet Muhammad," Sherif said. "It's forbidden to create a hate program to show that the prophet is a terrorist while he's not. Don't ask us to try to make people understand that this is not a campaign of hate."

Nasrallah, a black-turbaned, bearded cleric, demanded an apology for the cartoons and laws to prevent a repetition.

"There can be no settlement before an apology and there can be no settlement before laws are legislated by the European Parliament and the parliaments of European countries," he said.

Islamic nations should demand "a law committing the press and the media in the West that proscribes insulting our prophet. If this matter cannot be achieved that means they (West) insist on continuing this," he added.

Nasrallah said that if the controversy touched on Jews or Israel the West would have reacted differently and quickly.

In Denmark, the Danish Broadcasting Corp., or DR, said its journalists in Beirut had been warned to stay away from the Shiite Ashoura ceremonies. "It has become more difficult to be a Danish reporter in the Middle East," Lisbet Knudsen, head of DR's news desk said.

The Bangladeshi protesters - most members of the hard-line group, Islamic Constitution Movement - marched through the streets outside the country's main mosque in downtown Dhaka shouting, "Down with Islam's Enemies!" police said.

"We can't tolerate such disrespect to our prophet. It's a shameful act. We condemn it," A.T.M. Hemayetuddin, a movement leader, told supporters.

In the capital of Indian-controlled Kashmir, about 200 people turned an Islamic procession into a protest against the prophet drawings, shouting "Down with Denmark" and "Down with Israel." Senior Superintendent of Police Muneer Khan said 25 people were arrested as police beat back angry demonstrators.

Malaysia's government Thursday indefinitely shut down a local newspaper for reprinting one of the drawings.

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Associated Press reporters Julhas Alamm in Dhaka, Bangladesh; Jan M. Olsen in Copenhagen, Denmark; Mujtaba Ali Ahmad in Srinigar, India and Eileen Ng in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia contributed to this report.



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I thought the following was interesting:

Nasrallah said:
"There can be no settlement before an apology and there can be no settlement before laws are legislated by the European Parliament and the parliaments of European countries,"

Islamic nations should demand "<u>a law committing the press and the media in the West that proscribes insulting our prophet</u>. If this matter cannot be achieved that means they (West) insist on continuing this," he added.
Is this a part of Islam conquering -- or taking over the West ??? I don't have a problem with respecting their beliefs, however, legislation proscribing the press is exactly what the U.S. Constitution prohibits. It seems clear that some Muslims have little respect for freedom of thought and expression. If you don't believe what they believe, you're fucked.

On the other hand, even in this country there are limitations on freedom of speech. You can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre and cause a panic and injury/death. You don't have a right to do that -- that is, that speech is not protected by the Constitution.

Since it appears that printing an image (or even saying bad things) of their prophet will cause pandemonium and, perhaps, as much harm as yelling Fire! in a crowded theatre, would/should that kind of speech not be protected by our Constitution as well ???

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
I thought the following was interesting:


Is this a part of Islam conquering -- or taking over the West ??? I don't have a problem with respecting their beliefs, however, legislation proscribing the press is exactly what the U.S. Constitution prohibits. It seems clear that some Muslims have little respect for freedom of thought and expression. If you don't believe what they believe, you're fucked.

On the other hand, even in this country there are limitations on freedom of speech. You can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre and cause a panic and injury/death. You don't have a right to do that -- that is, that speech is not protected by the Constitution.

Since it appears that printing an image (or even saying bad things) of their prophet will cause pandemonium and, perhaps, as much harm as yelling Fire! in a crowded theatre, would/should that kind of speech not be protected by our Constitution as well ???

QueEx

That's where the definition of a right comes in. A right allows me to do something as long as I do not keep anyone else from something. Fire in a crowded movier theater creates a hazardous condition. Criticizing a religion does not. It is the response that creates the harardous condition, so the response is what must be dealt with. I keep telling these fools not to siding with whomever may dislike America, because the Imams do not believe in the separation of church and state, and other civil rights.
 
Fuckallyall said:
That's where the definition of a right comes in. A right allows me to do something as long as I do not keep anyone else from something. Fire in a crowded movier theater creates a hazardous condition. Criticizing a religion does not. It is the response that creates the harardous condition, so the response is what must be dealt with. I keep telling these fools not to siding with whomever may dislike America, because the Imams do not believe in the separation of church and state, and other civil rights.


Just because someone disagrees with U.S. policy does not mean they are siding with the Imans or anyone. It's people like you that keep saying they are.
 
Fuckallyall said:
That's where the definition of a right comes in. A right allows me to do something as long as I do not keep anyone else from something. Fire in a crowded movier theater creates a hazardous condition. Criticizing a religion does not. It is the ]response that creates the harardous condition, so the response is what must be dealt with. I keep telling these fools not to siding with whomever may dislike America, because the Imams do not believe in the separation of church and state, and other civil rights.

wtf? yelling fire creates a response in others that is dangerous in a crowded environment
and makin fun of mohammed seems to do similar shit :lol:
makin fun of mohammed seems pretty fuckin stupid too in light of the reaction you get but hey
notice cnn wont show that shit and gw condemns it lol
 
The leader of Hezbollah must be feeling pretty good these days, he's kidnapping Israelis, blowing up their tanks and firing missles into their homeland plus America is on the run in Iraq, the Taliban is gaining ground in Afganistan and China and Russia are funneling plenty of money to terrorist thru Iran and Syria, these must be good times for middle east fanatics, I bet they can smell victory, they must be laughing their ass off at the West's set backs. What they don't seem to understand though is the West is using restraint because of religious and political beliefs, it's not like they can't be erased by the push of a button it's more like rich nations tend to get lazy and let emotions and what other people think interfere in business decisions. So, The leader of Hezbollah should bask in his moment in the sun but he better recognize that when this shit gets to the point that only one side will survive that warmth from the sun he's enjoying won't be nothing compared to the heat he'll feel when America gets tired of this bullshit and sends his ass to hell.
 
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