Get over The Fact That Obama is Black

I didn't think he would win based on the current state of America. I am glad he won, not because of his skin color, but the ideas he might represent. You should look at his actions before making an assessment about him, instead of making assumption because his skin color is closer to you. When I see a better healthcare system in this country, fairer tax system based on income, etc., than you should be jumping in the street.
 
Im kinda surprised that no one has yet brought up his past....does anyone know anything about him? Im going to copy and paste an excerpt from an email I got about it.....

1.Occidental College records -- Not released
2.Columbia College records -- Not released
3.Columbia Thesis paper -- not available, locked down by faculty
4.Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5.Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6.Medical records -- Not released
7.Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8.Law practice client list -- Not released
9.Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10.Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11.Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12.University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13.Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14.Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'

If all of this is true, I dont understand how anyone could have voted for him. Hiding the truth is just as bad as telling a lie...

I couldnt vote for either of them....Most people had no clue that there were 6 people to choose from. My wife and I have had to stop talking about it because we always fight. How can it not be obvious to EVERYONE that elections are fixed and its all decided by the media? There should be a cap on what the candidates are allowed to spend on thier campaigns....when a TV network holds a debate, Invite everyone running for office, not just the candidates you want people to know about.

I feel that something big is going to happen within the next 4 years....I hope its for the good....
 
Im kinda surprised that no one has yet brought up his past....does anyone know anything about him? Im going to copy and paste an excerpt from an email I got about it.....

1.Occidental College records -- Not released
2.Columbia College records -- Not released
3.Columbia Thesis paper -- not available, locked down by faculty
4.Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5.Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6.Medical records -- Not released
7.Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8.Law practice client list -- Not released
9.Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10.Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11.Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12.University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13.Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14.Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'

If all of this is true, I dont understand how anyone could have voted for him. Hiding the truth is just as bad as telling a lie...

I couldnt vote for either of them....Most people had no clue that there were 6 people to choose from. My wife and I have had to stop talking about it because we always fight. How can it not be obvious to EVERYONE that elections are fixed and its all decided by the media? There should be a cap on what the candidates are allowed to spend on thier campaigns....when a TV network holds a debate, Invite everyone running for office, not just the candidates you want people to know about.

I feel that something big is going to happen within the next 4 years....I hope its for the good....
thank you very much for this post fam. early on in the campaign, before i came down from the obama high, i asked one of my closest friends if he was voting for obama. he said, "boy i don't know dat nigga."


now i know what he meant, even if he didn't mean it. obama is not who they think he is.
 
Im kinda surprised that no one has yet brought up his past....does anyone know anything about him? Im going to copy and paste an excerpt from an email I got about it.....

1.Occidental College records -- Not released
2.Columbia College records -- Not released
3.Columbia Thesis paper -- not available, locked down by faculty
4.Harvard College records -- Not released, locked down by faculty
5.Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6.Medical records -- Not released
7.Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8.Law practice client list -- Not released
9.Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10.Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11.Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12.University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13.Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14.Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'

If all of this is true, I dont understand how anyone could have voted for him. Hiding the truth is just as bad as telling a lie...
Did you "even try" to discern whether any of it was (a) true or (b) even relevant to anything ??? Google is one of the greatest tools placed in the hands of ordinary man, with computer access. If you did't try to use it before you posted the garbage above, then you probably don't deserve to know the truth.

Of course, I supported Barack Obama, but I didn't support him without asking and seeking answers to my questions.

I couldnt vote for either of them.... Most people had no clue that there were 6 people to choose from. My wife and I have had to stop talking about it because we always fight.
What rock do you think they were living under ?


How can it not be obvious to EVERYONE that elections are fixed and its all decided by the media?
Typically, when you find that "EVERYONE" seems to know one thing, and a "Few" tend not to see what is obvious to EVERYONE else, that may be a good to check-off at the line of scrimmage from the bomb to a screen, a draw or quick hitter when you are staring at EVERY ONE, of the defenders in the box.


QueEx
 
Typically, when you find that "EVERYONE" seems to know one thing, and a "Few" tend not to see what is obvious to EVERYONE else, that may be a good to check-off at the line of scrimmage from the bomb to a screen, a draw or quick hitter when you are staring at EVERY ONE, of the defenders in the box.


QueEx

so when a TV network holds a debate, and they only invite 2 candidates, does that not tell you something? If they cant invite everyone running, they must not want you to know where that candidate stands...they dont want you to know that there are other options...


I never said anything about anyone living under a rock, but everytime someone brings up voting, I ask the person if they knew that there were 6 people running for office before they voted....most of the time they say no....and a handfull even said they didnt know there was 6 people running even after they voted and had seen the ballot...
 
so when a TV network holds a debate, and they only invite 2 candidates, does that not tell you something? If they cant invite everyone running, they must not want you to know where that candidate stands...they dont want you to know that there are other options...
NUMBER ONE. Television is NOT the sole source of information; and Television does NOT owe a legal duty to educate the public.

If TV was somehow wrong by not allowing whomever it is you wanted to see on the one debate where speakers were limited, then I feel confident that the FCC/FEC would have been all up their assess -- for failing to allow "equal time". It isn't strange then, that we didn't see a court issue an injunction nor did we see those candidates you wanted to see with their OWN time under the sun peddling their message and letting us all know they were provided this time to talk to the people because TV violated the law.

2. You must have been routing for Ron Paul. Say it ain't so.


I never said anything about anyone living under a rock, but everytime someone brings up voting, I ask the person if they knew that there were 6 people running for office before they voted....most of the time they say no....and a handfull even said they didnt know there was 6 people running even after they voted and had seen the ballot..
I mentioned living under a rock; because, if anyone was paying half-attention they would have known who was running, and when. Thats because it would have mattered enough for them to seek out information and not wait until a bird shits on their head before they decide to look up to discover theres a sun up there.


QueEx
 
Have you been on change.gov yet? Find a policy, make it your resolve, handle your business, and make sure the mutt sticks to his promise...

The thing is, they keep changing that web site.

For a few days after the election, there was a page at http://www.change.gov/agenda/service/ that listed details of non-optional mandatory hours of community service. Voluntary service that would no longer be voluntary, children and adult alike... after a few days of being mentioned on some talk shows, the page disappeared.

Another at http://www.change.gov/agenda/education/ has also been removed. It too had some "interesting" ideas.

What used to be a section (Agenda) with many sub-sections is now a page with two paragraphs.

Interestingly, the entire web site www.change.gov is not available through the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine).

So, finding a policy and making it a resolve isn't as easy as it seems... hard to find something being hidden.

I really hope that he does good for the USA, but am skeptical.
 
The thing is, they keep changing that web site.

For a few days after the election, there was a page at http://www.change.gov/agenda/service/ that listed details of non-optional mandatory hours of community service. Voluntary service that would no longer be voluntary, children and adult alike... after a few days of being mentioned on some talk shows, the page disappeared.

Another at http://www.change.gov/agenda/education/ has also been removed. It too had some "interesting" ideas.

What used to be a section (Agenda) with many sub-sections is now a page with two paragraphs.

Interestingly, the entire web site www.change.gov is not available through the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine).

So, finding a policy and making it a resolve isn't as easy as it seems... hard to find something being hidden.

I really hope that he does good for the USA, but am skeptical.

Not a good a look for me or him....

This is displeasing, but you are absolutely correct, the site has removed the whole section detailing the policies from urban renewal to economic reforms...
 
Did you "even try" to discern whether any of it was (a) true or (b) even relevant to anything ??? Google is one of the greatest tools placed in the hands of ordinary man, with computer access. If you did't try to use it before you posted the garbage above, then you probably don't deserve to know the truth.




Qx

you gave no counter information in your post, all you did was cite something that everyone already knows. and the FACT is that none of that information has been released about obama. there was a birth certificate COPY. no official live birth record. now i don't give a shit where he was born at personally, but alot of people do. i'm still waiting to know how he was funded through all that top notch schooling and why his grandmother, the last link to his distant and mysterious past died the day before the damn election. shit is mad strange.
 
He's surrounding himself with Clintonites, even tho HRC lost, sofar we're basically getting a 3rd Bill Clinton admin anyway. This is the guy who brought us globalization, who's mostly responsible for the economic collapse we're facing. I don't see change, I see a informal, unofficial monarchy being instituted.
 
He's surrounding himself with Clintonites, even tho HRC lost, sofar we're basically getting a 3rd Bill Clinton admin anyway. This is the guy who brought us globalization, who's mostly responsible for the economic collapse we're facing. I don't see change, I see a informal, unofficial monarchy being instituted.
yup. it's getting more apparent each headline. yet the sheeple are gonna eat up any marginal improvement as evidence he is the truth.
 
you gave no counter information in your post, all you did was cite something that everyone already knows. and the FACT is that none of that information has been released about obama.
You're right because I thought you and the poster were capable of using the internet to find what you needed yourselves.


destrehan said:
. . . there was a birth certificate COPY. no official live birth record. now i don't give a shit where he was born at personally, but alot of people do.
A "copy" is ALL that will ever be available. Once the birth and death records are filed with the county or state, I believe I am safe in saying that those original documents are forever retained by the county/state. If you want evidence of someone's birth or death record, you go to the appropriate office and purchase "A Copy".

There are two basic kinds of copies:
  • If you just want something for your personal records and not necessarily for official use, a plain copy-machine image might be made that may or may not show the "embossed seal" on the document (the original document has a "Raised Embossed Seal" imprinted - which signifies, the original) nor will it have the embossed seal of the county/state official which has the original.

  • If you need a copy for official uses, you would want a "Certified Copy" of the document. Certified simply means that the official keeper of that record, i.e., the head of the Destrehan County, Louisiana Board of Vital Statistics places a statement on the copy that says something like the following: "This is to certify that this is an exact copy of the official birth certificate of Destrehan of BGOL on file with the Destrehan County, Louisiana Board of Vital Statistics" -- and that official places his/her official seal next to or over that statement. Hence, a "certified copy".

With respect to Barack Obama's birth certificate, the following was posted on THIS board on August 22, 2008:




<IFRAME SRC="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html" WIDTH=780 HEIGHT=1500>
<A HREF="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html">link</A>

</IFRAME>



Is that enough for you ??? Is this too, "Suspect" ???



destrehan said:
. . . i'm still waiting to know how he was funded through all that top notch schooling and why his grandmother, the last link to his distant and mysterious past died the day before the damn election. shit is mad strange.
I gave you something (above); now go get something for yourself.

QueEx
 
I found something.....


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This is an exclusive exposing the Barack Obama birth certificate as an absolute forgery and it has been in plain sight all along.<br />There can not be any Obamaniacs descending on sites claiming the experts are wrong, pixels are wrong or any other way of muddying the waters as the 1000 points of darkness have been carrying out their marching orders.<br /><br />Below is a cut out of one part of the published Barack Obama birth certificate which exposes the fraud and forgery of this document. This is the certified certificate from Barack Obama himself.<br /><br /><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3xyJDLYT0Bg/SJyHZ6yjumI/AAAAAAAAAVc/1UVkIHgyIg0/s1600-h/forgeryproof.jpg"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_3xyJDLYT0Bg/SJyHZ6yjumI/AAAAAAAAAVc/1UVkIHgyIg0/s320/forgeryproof.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5232205746445466210" border="0" /></a>What has been staring everyone in the face is the effects of political correctness and no one has seen it. The beauty of this liberal political correctness is that the person who forged this document got caught in their own trap of affirmative action hyphenated Americans.<br /><br />Look closely at Stanley Ann Dunham's race. Caucasian.<br /><br />Now look closely at Barack Hussein Obama sr's race. It is listed as African.<br />That doesn't seem all that interesting and no one has noticed it until one looks that this is an official document filed in August 1961.<br /><br />Most people on the internet and blogging have no sense of history nor in the use of words and it is this lack of sense which is going to bite whoever forged this document.<br /><br /><br />Up until 1968, the standard term for all Africans was "negroe". This fit with the absolute secular scientific teaching of the day which notes the world has 3 races in Mongoloid, Caucasoid and Negroid.<br />It was not until the Black Revolution when negroe or negro became a foul description in the late 1960's and then "black" was demanded by this group to describe them.<br />It was not until the late 1970's when political correctness came into vogue that it ushered in by the 1980's the term "African" to describe all blacks.<br /><br />Whoever forged this birth certificate was not utilizing the 1960's terminology which a black person would be listed as. They fell instead into a warped year 2000 politically correct description of "African".<br /><br />This is absolutely telling as if you looked at birth records in Prussia centuries ago, those people would be termed Prussian, Bavarian etc... as Germany did not yet exist as a termonology for nation state. If someone was listed as German in 1700, it would be glaring forgery just like the Obama forgery stuns the eyes once one knows what they are looking at.<br /><br />One could research the certificates in Hawaii for absolutes, but considering as has been warned in this blog that Hawaii is a Democratic state, has Democratic officials who have been hemming and hawing about this certificate and only upon precise questioning do they start backing down as it means their jobs and prison time if they certify a forgery as real and this is Democratic transplanted son Barack Obama carrying on this charade, could one ever get a clear answer from them unless one looked at numbers of birth certificates to precisely learn how Hawaii was labeling "blacks".<br />If this case it is African, then why is not Stanley Ann Dunham labeled correctly North American after her continent? She though is labeled correctly as caucasian as that is exactly as she is.<br /><br />If one still today searches enough death certificates in the 50 United States, you will find listed on them the term NEGRO. Now that is over 40 years since 1961 in Barack Obama's birth and political correctness has not reached completely into the coroner's records.<br />That fact is scientific and if it still exists today as proof it certainly is the proof from before 1900 in America and past 1960 that all blacks were noted as "negroe" or "negro" on all public records from birth certificates, marriage licenses, passports, driver's licenses to death certificates.<br /><br />Whoever forged the Barack Obama birth certificate got caught in Mr. Obama's own political correctness.<br />In 1961 America, blacks were negroes and not Africans no matter if they came from Africa or not.<br />If one cares to examine the Negroe Leagues in baseball where blacks were to "pass" as Cubans to the United Negroe College Fund to the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, there was no African at all in any terminology.<br />One was negroe on legal documents and "colored" in common usage.<br /><br />No pixels in this. No questioning borders and no questions about the researcher's expertise as negroe is American history and scientific fact just like whoever forged the Obama birth certificate got caught in political correctness in not being able to use a term they were trained to avoid.<br /><br />That is a fact. This birth certificate is a fake.<br /><br /><br />agtG 273
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Seriously Bro, did YOU READ the FactCheck article and did YOU READ the article you posted ???


I don't mind taking the two and shedding some light, however, if YOU HAVEN'T READ the two articles aren't willing to answer a few questions and have a serious back and forth dialogue, in earnest, I don't have any interest in continuing a useless exercise.

QueEx
 
Not a good a look for me or him....

This is displeasing, but you are absolutely correct, the site has removed the whole section detailing the policies from urban renewal to economic reforms...

Thanks. Yes, unfortunately, I am correct. And this can only lead to speculation as to why the web site was altered. It is a fact that it was altered after much attention by talk show hosts to the wording of the policies, and that circumstance is enough to make anyone suspicious.

I doubt that anything will come out of the site change; the Main Stream Media certainly will not do any reporting of it. This will be one instance of many to come where something will allow to "slide"; some followers have shown that they are very willing to issue a "pass" on virtually any subject.

As I said before, I hope he does the best for the USA. I really do. But at the same time I am taking note of what he does along the way.



As far as this whole birth certificate issue is concerned; has anyone taken the time to find out what certificates from the same office and same era look like and say?
 
Thanks. Yes, unfortunately, I am correct. And this can only lead to speculation as to why the web site was altered. It is a fact that it was altered after much attention by talk show hosts to the wording of the policies, and that circumstance is enough to make anyone suspicious.

I doubt that anything will come out of the site change; the Main Stream Media certainly will not do any reporting of it. This will be one instance of many to come where something will allow to "slide"; some followers have shown that they are very willing to issue a "pass" on virtually any subject.

As I said before, I hope he does the best for the USA. I really do. But at the same time I am taking note of what he does along the way.



As far as this whole birth certificate issue is concerned; has anyone taken the time to find out what certificates from the same office and same era look like and say?

I'm hoping that due to the strategy of waiting until after inauguration, his team has decided to remove it, but even that raises flags, you know? But I've decided to leave the tin foil wrapped around the fish, I mean, damn, he is a havard grad, there are certain things one should expect and not react naively about....or enviously...
 
>>>^^^
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2008/sep/25/obama-the-price-of-being-black/


Parts of his article that stood out...

I’ve been careful so far not to use the word “racism.” The term itself has become an obstacle to understanding. Once white people hear it, they tend to freeze, and start listing reasons why it doesn’t apply to them. After all, most Americans admire Oprah Winfrey, like Tiger Woods, and respect Colin Powell. Yet racism persists, albeit not publicly voiced, especially in the belief that one’s own is a superior strain. Here, however, not many whites regard Barack Obama as their inferior; effete or arrogant perhaps, but they don’t fault him on intellect. To some, indeed, he may seem too much the intellectual. Resentment of perceived black privilege is also involved, as we have seen with respect to affirmative action, and even fear of some kind of racial payback. Over half of a largely white sample told a Rasmussen poll that they feel Obama continues to share at least some of Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s positions on America.


And this...

Michael Tomasky has said that to win, Barack Obama “will need to build multiracial coalitions.” 8 What seems more needed, in my view, are two parallel campaigns: a quiet one to assure a maximum black turnout, and a more public one to make the most of the white backing the Obama-Biden ticket already has. His rallies, appearances, and advertisements would benefit from featuring white faces, and they should be accompanied by endorsements from white military veterans, union leaders, police chiefs, and firemen. His black supporters will know what is going on, and not take this as a rebuff.

—August 28, 2008
 
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