Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

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By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
Oct 2, 1:32 am EDT
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Kimbo Slice doesn’t have much on the line when he fights Saturday.

Well, other than the very existence of the promotion he fights for – the struggling EliteXC. Not to mention the short-term future of mixed martial arts on broadcast television, since CBS could pull the plug. And, of course, his earning power that comes mainly from perception and personality, not any actual body of work. At least not yet.

A loss risks everything, since winding up flat on your back doesn’t make much of a Nike commercial or a future as a pay-per-view draw.

In terms of competitive excellence, Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. live on CBS isn’t much. In terms of importance in the brief history of MMA, it may wind up significant.

While it’s unlikely EliteXC, or any other league, can ever mount a serious challenge to the UFC’s immense popularity and market share, the possibility is non-existent if Kimbo loses.

EliteXC’s entire business model hangs on whether Slice, who gained fame from YouTube videos of his street scraps, can prove to be even an average MMA fighter.

It’s bizarre business scenario.

EliteXC has few name fighters and the conundrum of Slice. He’s the most famous and popular fighter in the world yet he may not be a top 50 heavyweight. He’s fought professionally just three times and it’s unlikely he’d make it out of the first round with anyone in the UFC.

Even his vaunted punching power – fearsome in boat yards and back alleys – isn’t much by big-time MMA standards.

If he was the devastating puncher he’s sold as, Kimbo would have laid out his last opponent, James “Colossus” Thompson, long before a cauliflower ear exploded in the third round. Fedor Emelianenko, the best heavyweight in the world, may have needed just one punch to win that fight.

The Kimbo legend lives on though. It’s the bearded, menacing, one-time homeless man, one-time porn company security guard who gets the big endorsement deals, not Fedor.

It’s Slice who can bring a nice Nielsen number, not anyone else EliteXC employs (even femme fatale Gina Carano) or perhaps even anyone on the UFC roster.

The trouble is, if Kimbo were to lose Saturday, there may not be a company on Monday – the promise of future ratings and pay-per-view buys gone if his famed ferocity is debunked.

The likeable Slice is rightfully cashing every check as quickly as possible. He’s an only in America rags-to-riches story, only one that will explode like Colossus’ ear at some point.

So Slice will enter the cage against Ken Shamrock, a pioneering legend in MMA who also happens to be 44 years old and without a victory in over four years. He hasn’t even made it out of the first round since then, a TKO loser in every fight.

To say he’s the ultimate set up for Slice kind of understates it (Kimbo is a 7-2 favorite in most sports books). Slice simply has to win.

Shamrock’s lack of recent success doesn’t guarantee it though. Thompson had lost seven of his previous nine fights – “They got him out of the (expletive) morgue,” UFC president Dana White laughed – and almost beat Kimbo anyway.

Slice’s previous victory came against the colorful Tank Abbott, who like Shamrock was an early star in the sport and comically billed himself as “master of the ancient martial art of kicking ass.” Don’t be too impressed, Abbott has just one victory since 1998 and was best served in fake professional wrestling.

Kimbo’s only other fight was a knockout of journeyman Bo Cantrell in just 19 seconds, which is impressive even if Cantrell was once dropped in a seemingly impossible five seconds.

To say there is a gap between Slice’s perception with the causal public and reality with hard core fans doesn’t begin to describe it. While it’s impossible to hate Slice for capitalizing on his earning opportunity, it’s just as impossible to approve of what he thus far represents to the growing sport.

He’s all sizzle, no steak.

At 34, Slice is too old to become an expert in one of the chief fighting styles such as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu – which generally takes at least 10 years to master. He will need to rely on heart, punching and rudimentary wrestling and submission defense skills to survive in his career.

This being just his fourth pro fight, it would be understandable to bring him along delicately as he continues to improve under famed trainer Bas Rutten.

Being the headliner on prime time CBS cards, Nike endorser, and like it or not, the face of the sport, doesn’t allow such patience though.

He’s paid and promoted as the toughest man on earth (in one of the most outrageous bits of sports hyperbole ever he was compared to no less than Tiger Woods in his last CBS appearance). At some point he has to at least attempt to live up to anything near that status.

The public loves a circus, but how long can they sell Kimbo as a star when he’s only taking on the over-the-hill gang?

EliteXC’s problem is to step up the competition, which means a likely loss, which means a likely end to the company. That’s why a grudge match with the solid Brett Rogers, who called Slice out after May’s CBS card, was tabled and Shamrock was dusted off.

They may fight next on pay per view (along with Carano vs. Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos) to deliver some much-needed cash to an operation that lost over $56 million the last two years.

Or they might fight on CBS in hopes of getting an extension on its original four-fight deal with the network.

Either way, the goal for EliteXC is to make it to a next time. They need to tread water until some other stars emerge, they combine with another outfit or Slice develops enough to become a legitimate heavyweight.

Until then, this entire experiment is a house of cards, built on a charade of charisma and massive marketing.

So Saturday, Kimbo Slice must win or it all comes tumbling down, sooner rather than later.
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

This article raises some good although obvious points but most of this article is asinine.
To point out that he didn't dispatch of Thompson sooner and compare what would have happened if it was Fedor in the ring is stupid though and shows the ignorance of the writer.
Give the man a break,that was his 3rd fight and he was facing a seasoned veteran.

Why somebody didn't pick Kimbo long before they did is beyond me.
The man is an internet legend and has been for years.
Imagine if he was picked up years ago and had ample time to learn other disciplines of MMA.
He would be a beast.
It's too bad that he's getting into the game so late but while he's here,he's good for the sport.
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

Upcoming TV EVENTS + GENERAL PPV content =

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_events
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EliteXC:_Heat
http://www.dimewars.com/Video/defau...b8d59-b1a5-4927-a074-0a6d23c5d4ae&activetab=3 = Interview with Kimbo Slice
http://mmafactor.com/2008/09/30/ken-shamrock-the-raconteur/ = Interview with Ken Shamrock
http://mmafactor.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_89
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_90
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_91
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_92
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_93
http://www.elitexc.com
http://www.ufc.com



Saturday, October 4th, 2008 - ELITE XC: HEAT on CBS (Kimbo Slice / Ken Shamrock + Arlovski/Nelson)
Saturday, October 4th, 2008 - SPIKE TV airing UFC 86 (Jackson/Griffin) PPV from July 2008
Saturday, October 11th, 2008 - SPIKE TV airing UFC 87 (Fitch/St. Pierre) PPV from August 2008
Saturday, October 18th, 2008 - SPIKE TV airing on tape delay from Birmingham, England UFC 89 (Leben/Bisping) PPV
Saturday, October 25th, 2008 - UFC 90 on PPV (Anderson Silva / Patrick Cote)
Saturday, November 15th, 2008 - UFC 91 PPV (Lesnar/Couture + Stevenson/Florian)
Saturday, December 27th, 2008 - UFC 92 PPV (Evans/Griffin + Nogueira/Mir + Jackson/Silva III)
Saturday, January 17th, 2009 - UFC 93 PPV from Dublin, Ireland tentatively pegged (Franklin/Henderson + Rua/Coleman)
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

I root for Kimbo but he is the future of nothing in MMA. Even though I am a Kimbo fan, he has fought quality fighters or isnt over the hill. Even UFC Hall of famer Ken Shamrock is considered WAYYYY over the hill in the MMA world.

I dont blame Kimbo for this. He just fights the 'has-beens" EliteXC puts in front of him. But Kimbo better wise up and start fighting better comp or his shine is going to drop fast.

This is why I respect Brock Lesner so much. Brock came into UFC and demanded to fight the best talent Dana White could schedule him. Brocks first fight was against Frank Mir. Mir is an ex UFC champ and considered one of the top heavy weights in MMA today. Brocks next fight was against Heath Herring. Herring was a much respected fighter in pride. Kimbo has fought no where near the level of talent Brock has.
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

I root for Kimbo but he is the future of nothing in MMA. Even though I am a Kimbo fan, he has fought quality fighters or isnt over the hill. Even UFC Hall of famer Ken Shamrock is considered WAYYYY over the hill in the MMA world.

I dont blame Kimbo for this. He just fights the 'has-beens" EliteXC puts in front of him. But Kimbo better wise up and start fighting better comp or his shine is going to drop fast.

This is why I respect Brock Lesner so much. Brock came into UFC and demanded to fight the best talent Dana White could schedule him. Brocks first fight was against Frank Mir. Mir is an ex UFC champ and considered one of the top heavy weights in MMA today. Brocks next fight was against Heath Herring. Herring was a much respected fighter in pride. Kimbo has fought no where near the level of talent Brock has.

The difference between Kimbo and Brock is that Brock has an extensive wrestling background and is freakishly strong even for a man his size.
Look how long Matt Hughes dominated the welter weight division with just wrestling and ground and pound.
Kimbo is just a street brawler but he could hold his own against better opposition if he developed a good take down defense,thats all he really needs to go with his stand up.
It's too late in the game for him to try to learn anything else.
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

The difference between Kimbo and Brock is that Brock has an extensive wrestling background and is freakishly strong even for a man his size.
Look how long Matt Hughes dominated the welter weight division with just wrestling and ground and pound.
Kimbo is just a street brawler but he could hold his own against better opposition if he developed a good take down defense,thats all he really needs to go with his stand up.
It's too late in the game for him to try to learn anything else.

That don't mean shit if people act like Kimbo is the future. The man rode on hype and hasn't done anything in the MMA world to brag about. I don't want to hear about hate because its far from that. I respect what he does but I don't respect the hype he thinks he deserves. As stated above, Brock came in with an impact even at a loss to a former champ. Wrestling or Boxing is two peas in a pot. Brock may have world-class skill but you can't just have that to win fights against vets.
 
Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

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Re: Future of EliteXC in Kimbo’s fists

Kimbo Slice / Seth Petruzelli.

Shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EliteXC
http://www.elitexc.com

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Ken Shamrock had to withdraw (per rules/regulations) after suffering a cut over his eye/eyebrow region during training WITHIN a 24-hour period of the main event.

Seth Petruzelli was to be fighting on the undercard and was given the same-day opportunity to move up to meet Kimbo in the CBS main event.


kangd01 said:

haftung said:
Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson (.avi)
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ELITE XC - Saturday Night action ...
Saturday, October 4th, 2008
CBS television


The MMA Miracle said:
THESE ARE WMR Files - they are .ASF Extensions - dont ask for anything else! - get codecs or vlc player if non viewable



ELITE XC: OCTOBER 4, 2008 ON CBS
venue: BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Florida

Main Card:
-Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Seth Petruzelli
http://rapidshare.com/files/151023426/kimbovspetruzelli-miracle.asf

-Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley
http://rapidshare.com/files/151019632/shieldsvsdaley_-_miracle.asf

-Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson (starts late, at 3:38, once again, sorry so much :-( )
http://rapidshare.com/files/151016141/arlovskivsnelson-_miracle.asf

-Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobald (starts 45 seconds left in 1st round, and doesnt have decision, sorry, had issues)
http://rapidshare.com/files/151013812/caranovskobold_-_miracle.asf

-Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua
http://rapidshare.com/files/151009230/radachvsrua-miracle.asf


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Kimbo vs Petruzzelli


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