Froch, Ward Agree: Winner is The Best at 168, Not Bute

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NEW YORK — Carl Froch and Andre Ward agreed on one thing.

They believe only the winner of their fight, not unbeaten Lucian Bute, can stake legitimate claim to being boxing’s best super middleweight. The undefeated Ward, who owns the WBA 168-pound title, and Froch, the WBC’s super middleweight champion, will fight for The Ring magazine’s crown, in addition to the “Super Six World Boxing Classic” championship cup Saturday night at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City.

The Montreal-based, Romanian-born Bute (30-0, 24 KOs) holds the IBF super middleweight title. Critics of the “Super Six” tournament insist that the Ward-Froch winner won’t prove his super middleweight supremacy until he beats Bute, who’s expected to face Froch (28-1, 20 KOs) or Ward (24-0, 13 KOs) sometime in 2012.

“I’m sorry to be ignorant, to stop you in your tracks, but Lucian Bute isn’t in the mix,” Froch, 34, told a reporter during a press conference Tuesday at The Edison Ballroom in Manhattan. “I know he’s the IBF champion, but the two names on his record are Brian Magee and Glengoffe Johnson. He got knocked out by a guy, Librado Andrade, in round 12 of his fight. He actually got KOd. The referee [Marlon Wright] picked him off the floor, washed his [mouthpiece] 40 seconds later and the bell was ringing. He won that fight on points, but in my opinion he was knocked out.

“So Lucian Bute needs to fight a couple of top-level fighters before he can call himself the best of the best — one of the top three in the world, one of the top two in the world, like myself and Andre Ward are. But obviously he’s IBF champion and that would [set] the winner of this tournament and the winner of these two glorious belts [on] a natural progression to go to unify the division. So he may get his chance to get an absolute whooping, because that’s what would happen. You’ll see that when it happens.”

The 31-year-old Bute has made nine defenses of an IBF title he won by stopping Alejandro Berrio in the 11th round four years ago in Montreal. The popular southpaw atoned for his controversial win against Andrade by knocking out Andrade with a body shot in the fourth round of their rematch two years ago in Quebec City.

He most recently defeated Johnson (51-16-2, 35 KOs) rather easily in a 12-rounder Nov. 5 in Quebec City. Johnson lost to Froch by majority decision in his previous fight, another 12-rounder June 4 in Atlantic City. Though judge Nobuaki Uratani scored the Froch-Johnson encounter even (114-114), Froch clearly deserved the wide win with which he was credited on the scorecards of judges Mark Green (116-112) and John Stewart (117-111), who also has been assigned to judge the Froch-Ward fight.

“Lucian Bute has to fight the winner [of Ward-Froch] to become the best,” Ward, 27, said. “That’s just the bottom line. With The Ring magazine belt on the line and all the other belts on the line, no disrespect to Lucian Bute, but he’s fought B-minus, C-level competition. And he’s done what he was supposed to do — he got them out of the there. But he’s almost been preserving himself, just trying to wait for the winner of this tournament, while we’ve been putting in a lot of hard work. … We have nothing else to prove, in terms of who’s the best, after this fight. He has to come to us. We don’t have to go to him.”
 
Ward :yes:
Froch :smh:

Ward Vs. Bute would be epic...

whoever wins time for Bute to fight some tough opponents...
 
Ward :yes:
Froch :smh:

Ward Vs. Bute would be epic...

whoever wins time for Bute to fight some tough opponents...
 
Ward :yes:
Froch :smh:

Ward Vs. Bute would be epic...

whoever wins time for Bute to fight some tough opponents...
 
good win for Ward....very unexciting match tho...his style is effective but boring....

hope we see Bute Vs Ward early 2012....
 
Ward Rips Bute: He's Been Fighting B and C Level Guys
Posted by: Bill Emes on 12/18/2011 .

By Bill Emes

WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward (25-0, 13KOs) is not impressed with the record of Lucian Bute, the undefeated IBF champion. Ward, who dominated Carl Froch (28-2, 20KOs) on Saturday night to win the Super Six tournament, is not rushing to make a deal with Bute, who many believed would automatically face the Super Six winner. He believes Bute took an easy road to the Super Six champion. But if the right deal comes along, Ward is ready to make the fight.

"I'm not saying that I'm going to pass him up. I just want to bring up another side of it. As soon as the fight is over, everybody automatically says Bute gets the Super Six champion. We understand what you've been doing. We've been here getting the bumps and bruises, while you're fighting at home with B level and C level guys. If it's the right deal and everybody agrees, then lets do it. I think I've proved over the last two years that I want to fight the best, but it's a business," Ward told BoxingScene.com.

http://www.boxingscene.com/ward-rips-bute-hes-fighting-b-c-level-guys--47522

He has a point but who else will he fight right now.
 
Bute: I Would Knock Froch Out, I'll Fight Ward in NYC!
Posted by: Bill Emes on 12/18/2011 .

By Bill Emes

IBF super middleweight champion Lucian Bute (30-0, 24KOs) has no problem with traveling over to the United States to face WBA/WBC champion Andre Ward (25-0, 13KOs) to settle the issue as to which of them is the best boxer at 168-pounds. The unbeaten boxer is not impressed with Carl Froch, who did a lot of trash talking about Bute in the last couple of weeks. Bute sat ringside at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, and watched Ward secure a dominating twelve round unanimous decision over Froch.

"I would knock [Froch] out. When I fought [Brian] Magee I stopped him in ten rounds and Froch stopped him in eleven rounds. When he fought Glen Johnson, one judge thought it was a draw, 114-114, and when I fought Johnson I won very clearly. For Ward, maybe it's possible to fight him in New York, in New York City is an option. I'm also ready to go to his backyard [of Oakland]," Bute told BoxingScene.com.

http://www.boxingscene.com/bute-i-knock-froch-out-ill-fight-ward-nyc--47507
 
I would love to cover this one in Oakland. Bute wants a fight in NYC, which would work. Ward has mentioned that he wants a big fight in Vegas. This would qualify.
 
Dirrell is the WBC's mandatory challenger, so who knows, it's not out of the question that he goes in that direction, even though it's not nearly the same in terms of money or drawing power.
 
With such one sided wins over Arthur Abraham and Carl Froch, did Ward put himself atop the fighter of the year lists?

I guess, but I didn't have any doubt that he would win those fights. A lot of white fighters get hyped way beyond their ability when they aren't complete bums.

I do respect Froch for being real about being out classed, because most of them act funny style about that shit.
 
I would love to cover this one in Oakland. Bute wants a fight in NYC, which would work. Ward has mentioned that he wants a big fight in Vegas. This would qualify.



Bute would draw a lot of Canadian fans to MSG so they should fight in front of the larger crowd in the more attractive venue.

I like Dirrell but he needs to get another win under him before he fights Ward.
 
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