Foreign Auto Makers Won Billions in Government Subsidies

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Southern States Gave Auto Companies Tax-breaks and Cash for Training

To hear Southern Republicans tell the story, the financial burdens facing Detroit’s automakers are self-made troubles to be settled by the laws of Adam-Smith capitalism.
“We don’t think it is the role of government to intervene,” Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) told the Fox Business Network last week. “We need to let the market and the laws work the way they are already in place.”

Yet this argument — that the government has no business interfering in free markets — ignores an increasingly frequent tradition among Southern states, which have fronted billions in local taxpayer dollars in the past two decades to attract foreign auto plants. Those incentives, arriving in the form of tax breaks, training for new employees and even land, have enticed BMW to South Carolina, Mercedes to Alabama and Nissan to Tennessee. The result of the government subsidies has been the steady emergence of the South as an auto-manufacturing powerhouse. Some are dubbing it the “New Detroit” – a region where real estate is cheap and the labor’s not unionized.
Not coincidentally, these Southern states are represented by the same coalition of GOP senators who led the fight against the recent Detroit bailout proposal. That legislation would have provided $14 billion in emergency bridge loans to General Motors and Chrysler, both of which say they lack the finances to survive the month. Rallying behind the animated opposition of GOP Sens. Bob Corker (Tenn.), Richard Shelby (Ala.), Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and South Carolina’s DeMint, Senate Republicans killed the legislation.
The White House has since stepped in to offer assistance from the $700 billion pot allocated earlier in the year for the Wall Street bailout so that the companies don’t go bankrupt during its tenure.
On Friday, the day following the Senate vote, Shelby told CNBC that if the Big Three had only managed their business operations as well as the foreign companies, known as transplants, they wouldn’t be scrambling now for a taxpayer-funded bailout.
“You look at the South,” Shelby said. “You take — not just Mercedes in my hometown — but BMW, Honda and all of them. These companies are flourishing with American workers made in America.”
But that flourishing didn’t come without significant taxpayer help. Shelby’s Alabama, for example, secured construction of a Mercedes-Benz plant in 1993 by offering $253 million in state and local tax breaks, worker training and land improvement. For Honda, the state’s sweetener surrounding a 1999 deal to build a mini-van plant was $158 million in similar perks, adding $90 million in enticements when the company expanded the plant three years later. A 2001 deal with Toyota left the company with $29 million in taxpayer gifts.
Alabama is hardly alone. Corker’s Tennessee recently lured Volkswagen to build a manufacturing plant in Chattanooga, offering the German automaker tax breaks, training and land preparation that could total $577 million. In 2005, the state inspired Nissan to relocate its headquarters from southern California by offering $197 million in incentives, including $20 million in utility savings.
In 1992, South Carolina snagged a BMW plant for $150 million in giveaways. In Mississippi in 2003, Nissan was lured with $363 million. In Georgia, a still-under-construction Kia plant received breaks estimated to be $415 million. The list goes on.
Supporters of these deals contend that the economic activity spurred by the arrival of the automakers is worth the up-front costs. Yet some experts say that, considering the ever-growing size of the incentive packages, there’s little evidence to support that claim.
“It’s exceedingly difficult to determine whether the returns warrant the original incentives,” said Matthew N. Murray, executive director of the University of Tennessee’s Center for Business and Economic Research. “It’s just hard to show that it’s going to produce enough tax revenue.”
Others wonder if the incentive packages don’t go too far to divert taxpayer dollars from vital state services. When Tennessee courted Nissan in 2005, for example, its $197 million gift came about the same time the state was cutting 170,000 low-income adults from its Medicaid rolls. A 1998 Time magazine report found that an Alabama elementary school adjacent to the Mercedes plant was home to 540 kids in a building designed to hold 290.
“The Mercedes-Benz plant illustrates a fundamental principle of corporate welfare,” the article read. “Everyone else pays for economic incentives — either with higher taxes, fewer services or both.”
Then there’s the question of whether there’s even a difference between using taxpayer dollars to bring a company to town (as many Southern states have done) and using taxpayer dollars to keep a company around (as the Detroit bailout aimed to do). Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R), who represents the Georgia district soon to house the Kia plant, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution last month that there is a distinction.
“I don’t think we were doing that because of bad business decisions Kia was making,” said Westmoreland, who voted against the Detroit bailout. “We did that to get them in here, to create the jobs, to create the taxes, to put economic development into the area.”
A great deal of focus has been placed on the United Auto Workers role in the financial troubles of the Big Three, but there are complicating factors that extend far beyond the union-versus-non-union debate. Much of the labor costs paid out by the Big Three, for example, go to cover health and retirement expenses — a tab that’s largely picked up by the governments of the foreign transplants.
“They [foreign governments] use taxpayer dollars to subsidize our competition,” Ron Gettelfinger, president of the United Auto Workers, said Friday after the Senate killed the Detroit bailout proposal. “It doesn’t help our industry.”
The age of the companies also plays an enormous role. General Motors, for example, has four times as many retirees as it does workers, placing a disproportionate burden on the company to meet its health and pension promises. “It’s much easier for the transplants because they’re much younger companies,” said Gary N. Chaison, a labor professor at Clark University in Worcester, Mass.
Not that the automakers don’t bear much of the blame for their current troubles. For years, the Big Three fought higher mileage standards while focusing production on gas-guzzling trucks and sport utility vehicles — models that fell from public favor when gas prices leapt over the summer.
“None of us want to see them go down,” McConnell, the Senate Minority Leader, said last week, “but very few of us had anything to do with the dilemma that they’ve created for themselves.”
Still, there’s plenty of blame to go around. Consumers purchased those large vehicles, thus creating the demand. And contrary to McConnell’s statement, many observers argue that Congress had a responsibility to nudge the industry toward better fuel economy years ago. A 1990 vote to increase mileage standards to 40 miles-per-gallon came three votes shy of Senate passage.
McConnell voted against it. Shelby, a Democrat at the time, did too.
 
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“They [foreign governments] use taxpayer dollars to subsidize our competition,” Ron Gettelfinger, president of the United Auto Workers, said Friday after the Senate killed the Detroit bailout proposal. “It doesn’t help our industry.”

Someone ask Mr Gettelfinger how he likes govt intervention in the markets :cool:

Not that the automakers don’t bear much of the blame for their current troubles. For years, the Big Three fought higher mileage standards while focusing production on gas-guzzling trucks and sport utility vehicles — models that fell from public favor when gas prices leapt over the summer.

A URL="http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=101&session=2&vote=00248"]1990 vote[/URL] to increase mileage standards to 40 miles-per-gallon came three votes shy of Senate passage.
McConnell voted against it. Shelby, a Democrat at the time, did too.

It aint the govts place to legislate mileage standards either! Let the market decide what cars people wanna buy.
 
Someone ask Mr Gettelfinger how he likes govt intervention in the markets :cool:



It aint the govts place to legislate mileage standards either! Let the market decide what cars people wanna buy.

So
meone ask Mr Gettelfinger how he likes govt intervention in the markets :cool:

The Japanese and Chinese governments seem to be making their auto industries dominate.

It aint the govts place to legislate mileage standards either! Let the market decide what cars people wanna buy.


This coming from a guy that has no market solutions to coal mine disasters and oil spills.
 
Technically those breaks come from the state, county, and city levels. It is a good investment for those areas. There is a big difference between bailing out an existing company that is on the verge of failing and enticing one to build a factory in your area.


Current union president Ken Lewenza has argued that labor is not responsible for the bankruptcy crisis facing the Big Three automakers, saying that his members would not make concessions part of any taxpayer-funded bailout. "We don't see this as us being the problem", Lewenza said, adding he would "absolutely not" accept any further cuts after losing tens of thousands of jobs in recent years. "We've suffered our share of pain."[56] Lawenza argued that the CAW agreed in 2007 to make concessions that will save the Big Three $900 million over three years.[57]

A spokesman for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation has criticized the CAW's "no-concession" stance, saying that it only serves to strengthen the opposition to a taxpayer-funded bailout for the struggling Detroit Three automakers. The CTF further pointed out that "It is especially difficult to understand anyone asking for government help that refuses to do anything to help itself to begin with", since they "fail to realize they've existed at the substantial largesse of taxpayers for decades".[58] Kelly McParland, a columnist for the National Post, has suggested that "if he won't give anything, he and his members are likely to lose everything." He also said that the problem facing the North American auto industry was borne equally by management and labor alike, criticizing labor for building up pay and benefits for themselves that was as unsustainable as it was enviable, while attacking management for its short-term strategy of selling gas-guzzling trucks and sales tactics (price cuts, rebates, free gas and cash-back schemes).[59]

Also

Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall
 
Technically those breaks come from the state, county, and city levels. It is a good investment for those areas. There is a big difference between bailing out an existing company that is on the verge of failing and enticing one to build a factory in your area.


Current union president Ken Lewenza has argued that labor is not responsible for the bankruptcy crisis facing the Big Three automakers, saying that his members would not make concessions part of any taxpayer-funded bailout. "We don't see this as us being the problem", Lewenza said, adding he would "absolutely not" accept any further cuts after losing tens of thousands of jobs in recent years. "We've suffered our share of pain."[56] Lawenza argued that the CAW agreed in 2007 to make concessions that will save the Big Three $900 million over three years.[57]

A spokesman for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation has criticized the CAW's "no-concession" stance, saying that it only serves to strengthen the opposition to a taxpayer-funded bailout for the struggling Detroit Three automakers. The CTF further pointed out that "It is especially difficult to understand anyone asking for government help that refuses to do anything to help itself to begin with", since they "fail to realize they've existed at the substantial largesse of taxpayers for decades".[58] Kelly McParland, a columnist for the National Post, has suggested that "if he won't give anything, he and his members are likely to lose everything." He also said that the problem facing the North American auto industry was borne equally by management and labor alike, criticizing labor for building up pay and benefits for themselves that was as unsustainable as it was enviable, while attacking management for its short-term strategy of selling gas-guzzling trucks and sales tactics (price cuts, rebates, free gas and cash-back schemes).[59]

Also

Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall

Delphi, which was spun off from GM in 1999, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy after the UAW refused to cut their wages and GM is expected to be liable for a $7 billion shortfall

Finish the whole story. I use to work for then Delco Electronics which became Delphi back in the late 1990s. I was not union, but in salary engineering. Delco was demanding that the union workers give back what was another in a line of give backs while at the same time the board was receiving record bonuses.
 
The Japanese and Chinese governments seem to be making their auto industries dominate.

Are you admitting that "markets work"? cause that's exactly where the jobs have gone! Maybe Factcheck can do a study on how govt. policies make our country so uncompetitive in the marketplace.

This coming from a guy that has no market solutions to coal mine disasters and oil spills.

MMS = Fail
EPA = Fail
 
Are you admitting that "markets work"? cause that's exactly where the jobs have gone! Maybe Factcheck can do a study on how govt. policies make our country so uncompetitive in the marketplace.



MMS = Fail
EPA = Fail

Are you admitting that "markets work"? cause that's exactly where the jobs have gone! Maybe Factcheck can do a study on how govt. policies make our country so uncompetitive in the marketplace.

You are a like a broken record. let me refresh your selective memory.

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So Repeal NAFTA! Oops, thats another govt brainchild, I aint even gon mention that Clinton signed that trash :yes:

Repeal it, Who on board?

Are you admitting that "markets work"? cause that's exactly where the jobs have gone!

Once again I have you on record for limiting the so called 'free market".
 
Finish the whole story. I use to work for then Delco Electronics which became Delphi back in the late 1990s. I was not union, but in salary engineering. Delco was demanding that the union workers give back what was another in a line of give backs while at the same time the board was receiving record bonuses.

My brother used to work for Delphi in Sandusky. He saw the end and booked before they went under. I think that plant is closed now. But yes the board bonuses are crazy. If you got the union that won't concede and you have the board paying themselves bonuses then you will have a bankrupt company. Now if OH or MI wants to entice Nissan or Toyota to build a factory in their states with state money then I am all for it.
 
It's the government you wanted.

The only way to avoid this is to acknowledgment that we need a separation between economics and state.
 
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