football heads: todays QBs not as good?

cranrab

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this season, beginning with the patriots v. jets controversy, and followed by all of the game-time coverage of the green dot stickers on the QB helmets, it became clear to me (or maybe i'm COMPLETELY wrong :hmm:) that todays QBs are not as good as those that pre-dated the communications-inside-the-helmet generation.

let's back up some first. in past generations, there have been QBs who could read a D and call their own plays (such as joe montana). in my estimation, those QBs are better than their counterparts who could not read a D and call their own plays (such as drew bledsoe).

fast forward to today's game. the QBs (with a possible exception of peyton manning) don't have to be as competent in reading a D, because the coaches upstairs are reading it for them. and the QBs also don't have to worry about calling the "correct" play, because their coaches are able to "spy" the D formation (not the necessarily the signals, but the formation) from upstairs, and call down the appropriate corresponding O play to counteract it.

i believe QBs of yesteryear are/were better players, because they didn't rely on transmitted battlefield intelligence beamed into their helmets to perform. the current system puts a premium on coaching analytics, as opposed to player knowledge, skill and abilities.

here are a couple articles that gave me food for thought:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3035449&type=story
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-071023haugh,0,1791523.column
 
I don't even have to read the articles. There's too much merit to the argument to dismiss the notion

But IMO, the entire structure was better then. Not just the QBs. It was more predicated on a player's instinct rather than hours upon hours of analysis. There were scouts and coaches and films, but not to the extent it is today. Where they're watching films of a player in the OFF season

Most of the QBs of yesteryear called their own plays. It was a prerequisite for the job. Not every single QB did it, but the majority of them did

It wasn't until Chuck Noll and the Steelers came along, with a dumb, blonde (albeit talented) QB named Terry Bradshaw, that coaches started talking over calling the plays on a full time basis


On another note, I was gonna start a thread about how you can't call a touchdown a touchdown anymore because of this "plain of the goal line" shit, or how you can't call the end zone the end zone since all you gotta do it stick the damn ball over an imaginary line, but I'll save that for another time
 
Here is a list for you...Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Steve Grogan
Dan Pastorini
Dan Fouts
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Anderson
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Brian Sipe
Warren Moon
Steve Bartkowski
Roger Stabach
Vince Faragamo
Doug Williams
James Harris
Vince Evans
 
Today's QB's are AWESOME.

Better Athletes...running way more complex offenses....against genetically created Defensive players (ie Shawn Merriman).

Can't compare the 2 eras. Wonder how even Rex Grossman would do GREAT in an era when defensive lineman didn't way over 220lbs?
 
Here is a list for you...Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Steve Grogan
Dan Pastorini
Dan Fouts
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Anderson
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Brian Sipe
Warren Moon
Steve Bartkowski
Roger Stabach
Vince Faragamo
Doug Williams
James Harris
Vince Evans
Tom Brady
 
Here is a list for you...Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Steve Grogan
Dan Pastorini
Dan Fouts
Terry Bradshaw
Ken Anderson
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Brian Sipe
Warren Moon
Steve Bartkowski
Roger Stabach
Vince Faragamo
Doug Williams
James Harris
Vince Evans


IMO Fran Tarkenton > than everybody on that list except Joe Montana, Kenny Stabler and Roger Staubach. Griese called plays but got pulled many times by Coach Shula in favor of Earl Morrall. And even Roger got pulled by his coach sometimes.

Bradshaw was a robot who did what Chuck Noll told him to do 95% of the time


The brothas got NO burn back then so there's no telling how good they were (or could have been)


and what kind of

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Jets! JETS!! JETS!!!


fan would I be without mentioning the king of improv Joe Willie Namath!!
 
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