Food: WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT TRUMP LIKES HIS STEAK WELL-DONE

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WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT DONALD TRUMP LIKES HIS STEAK WELL-DONE
BY ALY WALANSKY | FEB 12 2016

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Recently, presidential candidate Donald Trump was overheard ordering his rib eye well-done in a Manchester, New Hampshire, steakhouse.

One would think that with the inflammatory stream of consciousness that comes out of Trump’s mouth on a daily basis, no one would care one way or the other what the internal temperature of his meat is—but that is not the case. His steak order has resulted in low-grade pandemonium and heckling everywhere from Twitter to his rallies. So much so that a man held up protest signs at Trump’s South Carolina speech proclaiming TRUMP LIKES HIS STEAKS WELL DONE, as a sort of battle cry.





A true meat lover knows that the best way to enjoy steak is not well-done, but why do people care so much about Trump preferring his meat on the grayer side? Well, it could say something about who he is as a candidate. “If you like your meat cooked well done, you subconsciously probably use that same well done approach across the board in your life. It implies that one’s personality traits are patience, strategy and goal focused. Some research shows that meat and potato people are traditionalists in their thinking,” says Deborah Marcus Stayman, LCSW (Aventura-Counseling.com), a therapist who specializes in food and the meaning behind what we eat, how much we eat and why.

Interesting. Trump may not win any meat-appreciation awards, and he doesn’t exactly exude patience, but apparently research suggests he may just be hiding that facet of his personality from us. Hiding it very well.

Trump and steaks are not new bedfellows. Before he became a presidential candidate, Trump had a short-lived line of Trump Steaks, available only at Sharper Image and by mail-order from QVC that he claimed to be “the world’s greatest steaks.” It would, however, be an understatement to say that his customers did not agree, with reviews like “SENT THIS MESS BACK” and an almost Donald-esque takedown, “I know fine food and these did not meet expectations.”

And despite the Donald’s claims of meat expertise, he may not know steak as well as he thinks he does. In addition to the less than favorable reviews of his branded steaks, in 2012 the Trump Steakhouse in Las Vegas was briefly shut down because it had 51 health code violations.

So maybe how Trump enjoys steaks shouldn’t be an indicator of anything other than how we should not enjoy ours.

http://www.foodandwine.com/fwx/food/what-does-it-mean-donald-trump-likes-his-steak-well-done

 

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If You Judge People For How They Like Their Steak, You Might Be A Trump Supporter
Have I got a Trump steak hot take for you.

By Ariel Edwards-Levy

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A display including Trump branded wine, champaign, water and steaks is seen before a campaign press conference event at the Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, Florida, March 8, 2016..

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This week, a truly shocking story about Donald Trump"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">a truly shocking story about Donald Trump made the rounds: He prefers his steak so well-done “it would rock on the plate.”

This gustatory faux pas provoked no end of horror"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">no end of horror from food snobs. And some commentators, myself included"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">myself included, took things a step further, drawing parallels between the kind of person who eats overcooked steak and the kind of person who votes for Donald Trump.

“It’s interesting that preference for well done meat appears to be concentrated among the demographic groups — older, less-educated and less-wealthy Americans — that have formed the core of Donald Trump’s support"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">formed the core of Donald Trump’s support so far,” Roberto A. Ferdman"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">Roberto A. Ferdman and Christopher Ingraham"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">Christopher Ingraham wrote in The Washington Post.

It’s an appealing narrative, one that pits the cultured elites"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">the cultured elites, who know how a steak should be cooked, against the populists, who don’t care how they’re supposed to be serving up dinner.

The only problem? It doesn’t actually hold up, as I found when The Huffington Post joined forces with YouGov to test the theory in a scientific poll.

Just 14 percent of Trump fans like their steak well-done — a proportion that’s actually smaller than the 18 percent of people nationwide who say the same.

Instead, there’s more of a relationship between the kind of people who support Trump and the kind who get all judgmental about other people’s steak preferences.

We asked those Americans who don’t like their steak well-done whether they considered it a matter of taste (“Well-done steak wouldn’t be my preference, but it’s just a matter of opinion”) or a matter of right versus wrong (“Steak should never be cooked well-done”).

A majority of Trump supporters — 52 percent — said that steak should never be well-done. In comparison, 56 percent of the non-Trump supporters took the more live-and-let-live position.

It’s possible that a strong preference for bloody steak is actually a sign of black-and-white thinking, rather than evidence of good taste. This would dovetail with a more substantive theory about Trump’s supporters — that they’re more receptive to authoritarian ideas"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">more receptive to authoritarian ideas, like an intolerance for ambiguity. (Political science, which has a much higher tolerance for ambiguity, is divided on this point"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">divided on this point.)

Or maybe it doesn’t mean much at all. Certainly that seems to be the perspective of the people we polled, who said by a 10-point margin that someone’s food preferences don’t really say that much about them.

Regardless, there’s one more cautionary tale to be gleaned from the poll results. We wanted to find out whether or not a taste for well-done steak was, as Vox would have it"}}" style="box-sizing: inherit; color: rgb(46, 112, 97);">as Vox would have it, disqualifying — so we asked Americans whether Trump’s preferences would make them more or less likely to vote for him.

As you might expect, the vast majority of the country did not consider this a deciding factor in their vote. A full 11 percent of Trump supporters, though, said that the businessman’s taste in steaks made them more likely to support him, while 10 percent of those backing another candidate said the opposite.

To state the obvious, it’s unlikely that more than one-tenth of Americans actually see this as an important campaign issue. Instead, they’re almost certainly using the question to reiterate their previously held opinions about Trump (or steaks).

That same thought process likely comes into play when polls ask about more serious subjects, too. If you see a survey that asks whether voters are more or less likely to support a candidate based on their opinions on climate change, say, or their views on gun control, remember that those may not be quite the deciding factors they seem, either.

Disclaimer: I, too, tend to enjoy beef cooked to a nice, toasty hockey puck. Come at me.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-well-done-steak_us_56ec54bbe4b084c672203a4b

 

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The most depressing thing about how Donald Trump orders his steak


By Roberto A. Ferdman and Christopher Ingraham March 16, 2016
wrote in 2007, imploring people to serve hamburgers "rare, or at most medium rare." And he's not alone. The list of reputable voiceswho don't recommend eating meat well done is long.

And yet, for Donald Trump, the opinion of world renowned gourmands is not enough.

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On Tuesday, the New York Times published a story about the life of the Republican frontrunner, as told through the eyes of his longtime butler. Tucked inside of it was this, a juicy (or, really, not juicy at all) tidbit about Trump's eating habits:

He understands Mr. Trump’s sleeping patterns and how he likes his steak ("It would rock on the plate, it was so well done"), and how Mr. Trump insists — despite the hair salon on the premises — on doing his own hair.

It's hard to repeat that—"it would rock on the plate"—without cringing, as many have rushed to point out. Vox, New York Magazine, The Huffington Post, and countless other outlets have written about the disappointing quirk.

But disappointing as Trump's preference for chewy, indiscernible, overcooked mouthfuls of meat might be, it's worth stepping back—away from the realm of judgmental meat eaters, like us—to process how the people feel about it. And you know what? They probably feel all right, because a surprisingly large percentage of Americans prefer the same.

For instance, a 2014 survey by 538 found that fully one-quarter of Americans said they liked their steak done “well” or “medium-well.” Is this Trump's base? Hard to tell, since there weren’t enough steak-eaters in the 538 survey to break out demographic groups. But we can turn instead to a 2012 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair survey that asked 1,000 Americans how they liked their burgers done.

formed the core of Donald Trump’s support so far. As pollster Ariel Edwards-Levy remarked yesterday,




The takeaway isn't that ordering meat well done is an acceptable practice—we, along with all the other right-minded people in the world, maintain that it is a misguided choice, always. Rather, it's that shaming Trump for his misguided meat habits, when there's a plethora of people out there who do the same, is missing the forest for the tree with funny hair.

In 1982, the New York Times posited that the tradition "of eating well-done or overcooked meat...may finally be heading for extinction." Clearly that hasn't panned out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trump-have-in-common/?utm_term=.59ccda8e96db

 

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[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Dumb thread

 

[Esther]

Well, he did eat a pizza with a fork. What's worst than that?

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

The steak snobs now have a bone in this fight.

 

[three-fifths]

i actually loved that article. lol!

i'm rolling with donald on this one!

 

[hussla's paradice]

i actually loved that article. lol!

i'm rolling with donald on this one!

That's like shoe leather.

 

[Dannyblueyes]

It means that his old ass won't die of ecoli any time soon. Smh

 

[The Technician]

It means he's an uncultured savage

 

[clitsational]

It means he's an uncultured savage

like bush who with one of the best kitchens on earth

used to eat baloney sammiches with plain lays chips

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[three-fifths]

or like eating fruit leather.

it's still delish to me.

i also love this interpretation:

“If you like your meat cooked well done, you subconsciously probably use that same well done approach across the board in your life. It implies that one’s personality traits are patience, strategy and goal focused. Some research shows that meat and potato people are traditionalists in their thinking”.

That's like shoe leather.

 

[three-fifths]

donald is only the second white person i 've ever heard of in my lifetime (50+ years) who prefers their steaks well done.

 

[VWchrisATL]

Means you can cook some poison into his food & he won't even taste it...

 

[Mt. Yukon]

I judge the fuck outta people that order well done steak... Bet he asks the waiter when they come back for steak sauce too.

 

[M.H.C.]

White folks call that "beef jerky"

 

[Soul On Ice]

I judge the fuck outta people that order well done steak... Bet he asks the waiter when they come back for steak sauce too.

This is BGOL.Niggas here like well done steaks and wash it done with Moscato when they're done

 

[Amajorfucup]

Well, he did eat a pizza with a fork. What's worst than that?

Taking KFC out the bucket and putting it on fine china.. and eating fried chicken with a fork.

 

[Esther]

Taking KFC out the bucket and putting it on fine china.. and eating fried chicken with a fork.

He did that? da hell?

 

[Amajorfucup]

He did that? da hell?

MAGA

 

[The Plutonian]

He not a steak eater although his walking dead visage dictates otherwise

 

[Esther]

MAGA

What a weirdo.

 

[M.H.C.]

I judge the fuck outta people that order well done steak... Bet he asks the waiter when they come back for steak sauce too.

My fam does that all the time. Is that a bad thing? I don't really eat steak and I don't fuck with A1.

 

[2 ONE 3]

This was not thread worthy


At all


These are the kinda posts I'm talking about.

 

[three-fifths]

if you ask me, the guy at least displays an admirable amount of gastronomic etiquette.

Taking KFC out the bucket and putting it on fine china.. and eating fried chicken with a fork.

 

[cashwhisperer]

This is BGOL.Niggas here like well done steaks and wash it done with Moscato when they're done

A1 my nigga, A1!

 

[ViCiouS]

I judge the fuck outta people that order well done steak... Bet he asks the waiter when they come back for steak sauce too.

no - he gets ketchup

 

[Soul On Ice]

A1 my nigga, A1!

and tell me since they paid $59 for that Ribeye they have the RIGHT to eat as they please


do you pimp
but just eat at sizzler since ya'll dont value meat (paws)

 

[kirkout]

An executive chef will curse you out if you ask him/her:
1) to cook your steak well-done.
2) if you ask for A-1 sauce (ketchup) for your steak.

For the nubs, if you must have something for your steak ask for horseradish.

A dry aged prime steak only needs sea salt and cracked pepper. Nothing else.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

LMFAO
i used to eat steaks well done when i was a child cause i wasn't cooking them.
this dude is 70
you sure he not wearing a mask or a full body suit
eats kfc and well done steaks
hates gay people
got 3 baby momma's and 5 kids
borrows money and never pays it back
let me stop

 

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