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Stray New Year's Eve bullets still haunt two families
Two South Floridians died from falling bullets likely fired into the air by New Year's revelers ringing in 2007. Both cases remain unsolved.

A year ago on New Year's Eve, bullets fell from the sky, killing two South Florida men.

Corey Baker, 35, the father of five, and Audley Ebanks, 69, whose widow and two daughters miss him so much they won't be in South Florida Monday night, died after they were hit by bullets randomly fired into the air.

Exactly one year later, police have few answers to give the victims' families.

And since celebratory gunfire is so common in South Florida, and since the shooters probably have no idea they hit anyone, the cases will probably remain unsolved.

''I was hoping for a miracle,'' said Shirley Harvard, a 27-year Miami police officer and Baker's aunt. ``But I wasn't expecting anything.''

In both cases, people with the victims at first thought they were suffering from medical problems -- until the wounds and the bullets were discovered. The families publicly pleaded for help. Detectives chased tips.

The two open and unsolved cases are a reminder of the dangers of firing guns into the air -- and the difficulty of finding those who fired the shots when someone gets hit.

''That's a family that will want answers, and in a typical homicide case, for the most part we've been pretty successful in providing them with some sort of understanding,'' said Detective Delrish Moss, a spokesman for Miami police. ``In these cases, you can't.''

Andrea Ebanks still pictures the last time she saw her father alive. It was midnight at a New Year's Eve party at a friend's house on East Acre Drive in Plantation. He was laughing, blowing on a party favor, its paper tail extended. She turned away for a moment. When she looked back, her father had collapsed.

Family and doctors thought Audley Ebanks died of a heart attack. Workers preparing his body for tissue donation discovered the fatal bullet, lodged in his heart.

'At first, it was, `He had a heart attack, OK, God took him,' '' said his younger sister, Dolsie Ebanks. ``And we found out it was some crazy monster who did it.''

Ebanks' widow and daughters won't ring in this new year in Florida. Because of the tragedy, all three are spending the holidays away from home.

''It just brings everything back, clear as day, like the day it happened,'' Andrea Ebanks said. ``You just wonder -- you're always wondering -- what happened that night.''

Just a few hour earlier, Miami police Officer Shirley Harvard couldn't believe the phone call she received saying her nephew, Corey Baker, was struck by a stray bullet at 9:30 p.m. on the last day of the old year while hanging out outside a friend's home at 915 NW 60th St.

The bullet went through the top of Baker's head.

Harvard had seen him just hours before, and she told him to stay inside when the shooting started.

Baker told her he was going to be on South Beach at midnight. There wouldn't be shooting there, he said. Baker was the father of five children.

''It's almost a year,'' Harvard said. ``And not a day goes by it doesn't come across my mind.''

But as a police officer, Harvard understands the difficulties investigators face. In other homicides, there is an obvious crime scene and usually a connection between the killer and the victim, Moss said.

In falling-bullet cases, the fatal shot can come from miles away. Multiple guns are often fired if it's a holiday. And killers have no knowledge of their victim or that they have killed.

''It makes it almost impossible to solve these types of cases,'' Moss said.

Several falling bullet injuries happen every year in Miami, Moss said, although deaths are relatively rare.

Andrea Ebanks put her energy into the community, hoping to combat the random violence that killed her father. She became involved with the community civic association her father once supported and supports gun buyback programs, which give money to people for turning in firearms.

And she supports tighter gun control, hoping it will reduce the type of violence that claimed her father.

''Never take for granted that it's not going to be your loved one, your friend, your teacher or someone in your life,'' she said, ``because you just never know.''

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people that shoot there guns in the air don't think that there bullet has to come down somewhere. It's probably best to stay inside during New year's celebration.:angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry::angry:
 
When I was a child growing up in Detroit my mother always made us sleep on the floor on New Year's eve because people were always getting hit by stray bullets. I make it a point to avoid the outdoors around midnight. I heard so many shots last night and some of them were so loud it sounded like people were shooting off cannons.
 
Can celebratory gunfire kill when the bullets fall back to earth?
In the case of a bullet fired at a precisely vertical angle (something extremely difficult for a human being to duplicate), the bullet would tumble, lose its spin, and fall at a much slower speed due to terminal velocity and is therefore rendered less than lethal on impact. However, if a bullet is fired upward at a non-vertical angle (a far more probable possibility for humans), it will maintain its spin and will reach a high enough speed to be lethal on impact. Because of this potentiality, firing a gun into the air is illegal in most states, and even in the states that it is legal, it is not recommended by the police. I got this from that Mythbusters site. The conculsion was it's true in a practical sense, because so many people are indeed foolish with their firearms.
 
Wow...I didn't know bullets fired straight up into the air could fall down rapidly enough to kill...
 
Wow...I didn't know bullets fired straight up into the air could fall down rapidly enough to kill...

They can't the terminal velocity of a bullet is not enough to kill a human, but like Spoke said they have to be fired in a certain angle to maintain enough speed needed to kill a human.
Myth busters even did a show on it! On Myth busters Season 3, episode 50 They found that a bullet can only penetrate a half inch of dirt once fired strait up in the air, and it was almost impossible to kill a human with that low impact.
 
They can't the terminal velocity of a bullet is not enough to kill a human, but like Spoke said they have to be fired in a certain angle to maintain enough speed needed to kill a human.
Myth busters even did a show on it! On Myth busters Season 3, episode 50 They found that a bullet can only penetrate a half inch of dirt once fired strait up in the air, and it was almost impossible to kill a human with that low impact.

But the doctor did confirm cases of it being so, so something is wonky about all that

But damn, niggas do this dumb shit every year, and dont expect this shit to happen, dumb fucks
 
shit at 11;50 im on the ground an im away from the window, the rest of my fam does the same, or im in the club, its best to be inside
 
Bullets fired straight up ... which aint hard to do ... don't kill. The bullet loses all of the muzzle energy traveling up. The energy built up coming down is dependent on the mass of the bullet and isn't enough to kill ... hurt maybe but kill no. Bullets fired at an angle don't use up all of their muzzle energy so the return trip down is in a curve, that arc is the key and bullets can indeed kill that way.
 
But the doctor did confirm cases of it being so, so something is wonky about all that

But damn, niggas do this dumb shit every year, and dont expect this shit to happen, dumb fucks

The doctors confirmed that the bullets were fired up, but did not say they were fired strait up! Again if the angle fired was about around 45 degrees as opposed to strait up, it can have lethal impact if it hits the wrong part of a human. We should also take into account that a gun kick back can alter the trajectory of the bullet, so sometimes when you think you are firing strait up, it can really be at a angle that can be lethal!
 
They can't the terminal velocity of a bullet is not enough to kill a human, but like Spoke said they have to be fired in a certain angle to maintain enough speed needed to kill a human.
Myth busters even did a show on it! On Myth busters Season 3, episode 50 They found that a bullet can only penetrate a half inch of dirt once fired strait up in the air, and it was almost impossible to kill a human with that low impact.

I don't even watch myth busters like that and I happened to see this one. The only reason I was checking for it was folks at work were talking about it.
 
I remember I was in Los Angeles to bring in the Y2K and it sounded like a war zone from all the gun fire :eek:.

That foolishness needs to stop.
 
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