Fannie Mae to turn to taxpayers after $6.5 billion loss

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Fannie Mae to turn to taxpayers after $6.5 billion loss

A ‘great policy failure’ that the two institutions at the heart of the financial crisis are still in limbo, says one observer

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Fannie Mae's headquarters on Wisconsin Ave. in Washington D.C.
Mortgage finance provider Fannie Mae on Wednesday reported a fourth quarter net loss of $6.5 billion, a step that means it will draw billions from the U.S. Treasury.

Fannie’s losses were a result of the 2017 tax legislation that slashed the corporate tax rate, making tax credits it held on its balance sheet worth less, resulting in a $9.9 billion provision.

Fannie had net revenues of $5.5 billion in the last quarter, versus $6.2 billion in the year-ago period.

Many large companies have had similar profit hits in the fourth quarter thanks to the tax changes, but few are in the same precarious position as Fannie FNMA, -2.00% and its counterpart, Freddie Mac FMCC, -2.98% . In 2012, Congress directed both government-sponsored enterprises to send quarterly profits to the U.S. Treasury, ultimately reducing their capital to zero by the end of last year.

Despite being long-expected and well-telegraphed, Fannie’s need for taxpayer dollars was a stark reminder that two companies at the heart of the 2008 financial crisis still represent unfinished business.




“It has been a great policy failure to allow these enterprises to operate without capital reserves,” said Rob Zimmer, acting executive director of the Community Mortgage Lenders of America.


Washington’s response to the crisis was to force financial institutions to hold more and more capital, Zimmer pointed out – yet an opposite policy has been applied to two housing giants that have come to define “too big to fail.”

But other analysts are more sanguine. Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics and an author of a 2016 proposal to overhaul the housing finance system, has long said it will take far more than one quarterly draw – particularly one caused by accounting losses – to rattle investors in the housing market.

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“It will have an impact when it appears we’re in for a series of quarterly draws,” such as during a recession, Zandi said.

Over the past decade, Washington has attempted – but failed – to find a permanent fix for housing finance, to replace the Band-Aid that was slapped on at the height of the financial crisis. Several recent efforts have raised hopes that 2018 might be the year for an overhaul, but they’ve petered out recently.

Zandi thinks Congress might need a recession “to focus the mind,” as he puts it. “That’s when there will be pressure to do something. That’s when markets will start to respond.”

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The current inertia isn’t due to Congress being too indecisive or unable to reach a compromise on a thorny policy issue, Zandi said. “The status quo is just too comfortable. It’s not fixed but it’s not broken.”

That “status quo” has been good for taxpayers. Together, Fannie and Freddie have paid about $90 billion more to Treasury than they received during the crisis. And they’ve supported a stable, ultra-safe lending backdrop for the housing market. Delinquency rates hover near all-time lows, with a slight uptick in late 2017 only due to the recent hurricanes.

But the quarterly sweeps have wiped out shareholders, who’ve fought the 2012 agreement in court.

And as the CEOs of both companies and their regulator have pointed out, operating with near-zero capital isn’t a sustainable way to run a business. The regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, in December struck a deal with Treasury to allow Fannie and Freddie to retain slim capital buffers of $3 billion each. Once those $3 billion thresholds are reached, they’ll re-start quarterly remittances back to Treasury.

That makes housing industry participants like Zimmer nervous. For now, the bond investors who keep the housing market humming are content with the status quo, but he thinks that can change suddenly.

“When Fannie says ‘we’re going to be profitable for the foreseeable future,’ no one ever knows what ‘foreseeable’ means,” Zimmer said. “Nobody in the government foresaw the last recession until it hit them right between the eyes.”
 
Munuchin is connected to the Shit and the big housing bubble some years ago. Made out like a bandit and will again. Stocks are shit and have been for years. Mueller will likely look into this shit too.
 
Munuchin is connected to the Shit and the big housing bubble some years ago. Made out like a bandit and will again. Stocks are shit and have been for years. Mueller will likely look into this shit too.

Yeap, you got that right!!!
 
That orange nigga is fuckin up. He has a knack for making bad situations worse. He is stress testing the fuck out of this so called democracy.
 
Its setting up that way.. There's something real strange going on with this economy!!

you aint lying Im still buggin over the english treasury admitting english slave owners were STill being compensated just up untill last year.. for slavery being ended..

now you KNOW if it happend over there it happend over here too....

and they got the nerve to say why should they pay reparations because they never owned slaves...

well neither did the children of ex slave owners yet they still got paid..

and they got the nerve to call this travesty a fuckin FUN fact..

they trollin hard...



http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/02...ation-british-slave-owners-quickly-backfires/


truth is there could never be any true reparations paid, these cacs owe us their existence and more..
 
you aint lying Im still buggin over the english treasury admitting english slave owners were STill being compensated just up untill last year.. for slavery being ended..

now you KNOW if it happend over there it happend over here too....

and they got the nerve to say why should they pay reparations because they never owned slaves...

well neither did the children of ex slave owners yet they still got paid..

and they got the nerve to call this travesty a fuckin FUN fact
they trollin hard...



http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/02...ation-british-slave-owners-quickly-backfires/


truth is there could never be any true reparations paid, these cacs owe us their existence and more..

You aint kidding they owe us, not just for the labor, the land, the resources, all the stolen patents and so on!! I wonder how much those owners were receiving each year?? You damn right, it was going on here.. This colony is owned by the brits!! I bet the okay to pay slave owners is hidden in one of these Laws, this country has!! People dont understand that the laws this country passes, are the perfect hiding grounds for the things they dont want the citizens to know!! Good reply!!
 
You aint kidding they owe us, not just for the labor, the land, the resources, all the stolen patents and so on!! I wonder how much those owners were receiving each year?? You damn right, it was going on here.. This colony is owned by the brits!! I bet the okay to pay slave owners is hidden in one of these Laws, this country has!! People dont understand that the laws this country passes, are the perfect hiding grounds for the things they dont want the citizens to know!! Good reply!!

no doubt, now when folks say stupid shit, like why should I pay reparations I never owned any slaves....

now we got proof they still benefitted long after chattel slavery ended....

nobody received more welfare than the parasitic financially elite euros...

the global welfare kings and queens of the world...
 
That's why I'm being patient.

It's hard, but I'm being patient.

I see it looming here in Greensboro. All these cookie cutter neighborhoods :smh:
Yep the same thing is going on in Alpharetta they are building too many subdivisions when the market crash half of this city is going to be a ghost town. Don’t get me started with Midtown Atlanta
 
Yep the same thing is going on in Alpharetta they are building too many subdivisions when the market crash half of this city is going to be a ghost town. Don’t get me started with Midtown Atlanta

Just had a cookie cutter neighborhood pop up right behind where I lived. They started these houses at $220k. You know, the houses that look big on the outside but only really 1500 to 1600 square feet inside. With only a thumbnail of front yard space. When they couldn't get anyone to buy for that price they ended up dropping them down to 190k.

I just see a lot of people buying a house for the sake of owning one when they don't realize that these type of neighborhoods have the shittiest resale value because the equity of the house seems to be more on the neighborhood versus the actual home.

I'm looking to buy a house in the near future, but I refuse to stay in a neighborhood where there is a HOA and all the houses damn near look alike.
 
I refuse to stay in a neighborhood where there is a HOA and all the houses damn near look alike.
Then it most likely won't be in a subdivision and then you're faced with not knowing wtf your neighbors may do. You may have some that will put all kinds of junk on their yard and not keep stuff looking good to keep the value of your property.

But I also hate he HOA when they want to constantly harass you about nonsense. Like last year they were nagging me said I had mold on the side of my house. They send you a pic in black and white that's like 2" big on a piece of paper taken by an idiot driving in a car snapping pics of all houses he deems are violating their rules.

While it is annoying and I hate it, I get why in some areas, I'd kind of prefer some order.
 
Then it most likely won't be in a subdivision and then you're faced with not knowing wtf your neighbors may do. You may have some that will put all kinds of junk on their yard and not keep stuff looking good to keep the value of your property.

But I also hate he HOA when they want to constantly harass you about nonsense. Like last year they were nagging me said I had mold on the side of my house. They send you a pic in black and white that's like 2" big on a piece of paper taken by an idiot driving in a car snapping pics of all houses he deems are violating their rules.

While it is annoying and I hate it, I get why in some areas, I'd kind of prefer some order.

I totally understand why HOA is needed.

I just prefer not to be monitored on what I do with my property.

Just not sure which direction I'm going to take.
 
Just had a cookie cutter neighborhood pop up right behind where I lived. They started these houses at $220k. You know, the houses that look big on the outside but only really 1500 to 1600 square feet inside. With only a thumbnail of front yard space. When they couldn't get anyone to buy for that price they ended up dropping them down to 190k.

I just see a lot of people buying a house for the sake of owning one when they don't realize that these type of neighborhoods have the shittiest resale value because the equity of the house seems to be more on the neighborhood versus the actual home.

I'm looking to buy a house in the near future, but I refuse to stay in a neighborhood where there is a HOA and all the houses damn near look alike.

something similar happening in SF. Downtown is so crowded that the streets are falling apart from overuse, yet you can't look in any direction without seeing a crane.

The troubling part is that all of this growth is financed with borrowed money. Now the company that's lending much of that money is raiding the treasury after a massive tax cut.

IMHO there's two ways this could play out.

Scenario 1, Construction slows down, people lose their jobs and abandon their apartments when they can no longer afford the rent. SF suddenly becomes a relative ghost town.

Scenario 2, construction slows down, people lose their jobs, and everybody from the suburbs crowds into the city to get the last few jobs left. Rents go even higher and shantytowns emerge.

I think scenario 2 is most likely. We already have Uber drivers from Stockton who leave home on a Monday, get home Thursday and sleep in their cars in between.
 
That's why I'm being patient.

It's hard, but I'm being patient.

I see it looming here in Greensboro. All these cookie cutter neighborhoods :smh:
Word I'm in Winston-Salem and there are a FUCK ton of homes on the market right now. I know it's spring but the sheer number of nice sized homes for dirt cheap is alarming.
 
Y’all call dropping over 1k a month on a house cheap?

I’m under 1k a month and that’s with taxes, insurance, all utilities.

Even if I made over 100k yr I’d still never get a house over 200k or even 100k
 
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