Fact Check! ‘Overtaxed Americans’ Actually Pay Lowest Taxes Since Truman Days

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source: USA Today

Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950
Average rate has fallen 26% since recession began in '07


By Dennis Cauchon
USA TODAY

Amid complaints about high taxes and calls for a smaller government, Americans paid their lowest level of taxes last year since Harry Truman's presidency, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data found.

Some political conservatives such as "Tea Party" activists have criticized federal spending as being out of control. While spending is up, taxes have fallen to exceptionally low levels.

Federal, state and local taxes — including income, property, sales and other taxes — consumed 9.2% of all personal income in 2009, the lowest rate since 1950, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) reports. That rate is far below the historic average of 12% for the past half-century. The overall tax burden hit bottom in December at 8.8.% of income before rising slightly in the first three months of 2010.

"The idea that taxes are high right now is pretty much nuts," says Michael Ettlinger, head of economic policy at the liberal Center for American Progress. The real problem is spending, counters Adam Brandon of FreedomWorks, which organizes Tea Party groups. "The money we borrow is going to be paid back through taxation in the future," he says.

Individual tax rates vary widely based on how much a taxpayer earns, where the person lives and other factors. On average, though, the tax rate paid by all Americans — rich and poor, combined — has fallen 26% since the recession began in 2007. That means a $3,400 annual tax savings for a household paying the average national rate and earning the average national household income of $102,000.

This tax drop has boosted consumer spending and the economy, which grew at a 3.2% annual rate in the first quarter of 2010. It also has contributed to the federal debt growing to $8.4 trillion.

Taxes paid have fallen much faster than income in this recession. Personal income fell 2% last year. Taxes paid dropped 23%. The BEA classifies Social Security taxes as insurance payments and excludes them from the tax calculation.

Why the tax bite has eased:

•Stimulus law. One-third of last year's $862 billion economic stimulus went for tax cuts. Biggest reduction: The Making Work Pay tax credit reduced income taxes $800 for married couples earning up to $150,000.

•Progressive tax rates. Presidents Clinton and Bush pushed through a series of tax changes — credits, lower rates, higher exemptions — that slashed income taxes for poor and middle-class families. A drop in income now can trigger big tax breaks and sharply lower rates, sometimes falling to zero.

•Sales tax. Consumers cut spending sharply in this downturn, thereby paying less in sales taxes.

A Gallup Poll last month found that 48% thought taxes were "too high" and 45% thought they were "about right." Those saying taxes are "too high" remain near a 50-year low.

The lower tax burden should last at least through 2010, says Roberton Williams of the Tax Policy Center, a think tank in Washington, D.C. "Virtually all the stimulus tax cuts expire at the end of the year," he says. "So the key decision is whether to extend them into 2011."
 
How much you want to bet this will be completely ignored & dismissed by those claiming our President is taxing them to death... :smh:
 
People have less money, so the amount the state collects is at a 50-year low? Is that a tax cut?

Liberals use to say lower incomes were a bad thing. Now you use it to prop up Jesus.
 
Assuming the article is true,

We can thank Bushes tax cuts. If you think I'm wrong let them expire back to Clinton levels.

2. I have to say the author is right, currently Obama is not taxing us to death. Having said that, when his policies kick in around reelection time for him, It would be time for the author to amend his article. Most are screaming because they don't want to pay anymore for the unproductive citizens or government waste anymore.
 
Assuming the article is true,

We can thank Bushes tax cuts. If you think I'm wrong let them expire back to Clinton levels.

2. I have to say the author is right, currently Obama is not taxing us to death. Having said that, when his policies kick in around reelection time for him, It would be time for the author to amend his article. Most are screaming because they don't want to pay anymore for the unproductive citizens or government waste anymore.

Assuming the article is true

I'll put USA Today's credibility over any of your sources including Breitbart any day!

If you think I'm wrong let them expire back to Clinton levels.

I'll take Clinton's economy over GW's any day.

Let them damn GW tax cut's expire!
 
People have less money, so the amount the state collects is at a 50-year low? Is that a tax cut?

Liberals use to say lower incomes were a bad thing. Now you use it to prop up Jesus.

So you were satisfied with the Clinton economy?
 
"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and ... transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government."

-- Grace Commission Report (PPSS) - Ordered by, and submitted to President Ronald Reagan on January 15, 1984 (wiki)
 
I'll put USA Today's credibility over any of your sources including Breitbart any day!



I'll take Clinton's economy over GW's any day.

Let them damn GW tax cut's expire!

Clinton had a republican majority holding the checkbook. He was a lame duck, plus he knew to move to the center when he wanted a second term. Obama will not move to the center. Any hoot.
Yeah Yeah Yeah Brieitbart is low class.
But seriously all jokes aside. If you were president would you let some of the tax cuts expire or all. Given I know how you feel about corporate profits, but what about the middle class who it will affect the most. John Kerry may buy one less yacht but what about the little guy?
 
Clinton had a republican majority holding the checkbook. He was a lame duck, plus he knew to move to the center when he wanted a second term. Obama will not move to the center. Any hoot.
Yeah Yeah Yeah Brieitbart is low class.
But seriously all jokes aside. If you were president would you let some of the tax cuts expire or all. Given I know how you feel about corporate profits, but what about the middle class who it will affect the most. John Kerry may buy one less yacht but what about the little guy?

Clinton had a republican majority after 1994. His first 2 years he raised taxes. After that, the republicans were interested in investigation every Democrat's personal sex life instead of legislating. Know your facts!
 
"100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the Federal debt and ... transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services which taxpayers expect from their Government."

-- Grace Commission Report (PPSS) - Ordered by, and submitted to President Ronald Reagan on January 15, 1984 (wiki)

So in order for things to be in the black, raise taxes and cut spending!
 
So in order for things to be in the black, raise taxes and cut spending!

Well..............Cut spending, first & foremost. At this point, We, as a nation, can't afford the Bush tax cuts. Whatever the govt doesn't get legitimately through taxes, it will get illegitimately through the printing press. From that aspect, we have to pay for this debt. Sometimes medicine is nasty.......but you have to take in order to get well.

I think we have agreement in ending military operations, What do you feel about getting rid of the whole Dept. of Homeland Security? If we gone cut spending, how far would you go?
 
Clinton had a republican majority after 1994. His first 2 years he raised taxes. After that, the republicans were interested in investigation every Democrat's personal sex life instead of legislating. Know your facts!

So I guess you like other liberal elites would say Let them eat cake. Nice way to evade my question. :D. Again in this current climate would you raise taxes on the middle class. Regardless of how you feel about Bush why would you raise the tax brackets? Some dems only want to let certain sections expire.



http://www.taxfoundation.org/


Individual Income Tax Due in 2008,
Bush Law versus Clinton Law
For taxpayers who take the standard deduction and have no children
Taxpayer Tax That Would Have Been Owed under Clinton-Era Tax Law Tax Owed under Current Law, with Bush Tax Cuts
Single, income of 30,000 $3,157.50 $2,756.25
Single, income of 50,000 $7,262.50 $6,606.25
Married, income of $50,000 $5,085.00 $4,012.50
Married, income of $60,000 $6,585.00 $5,512.50
Single, income of $75,000 $14,262.50 $12,856.25
Married, income of $75,000 $9,426.50 $7,762.50
Single, income of $125,000* $29,378.50 $26,472.25
Married, income of $125,000* $23,426.50 $19,462.50
*This chart does not take into account the Alternative Minimum Tax
 
When you are in debt, to get out of it you: spend less money, make more money to save/deposit.

For the Govt., cutting things out of the budget is spending less. While taxes are like making more money for saving/depositing.



Another thing ... What stopped the Bush tax cuts from creating jobs for almost ten years now and why should we believe making them permanent will do anything other than (permanently) make rich people richer.


One could argue the flush of tax cut money helped cause the economic crash. Since instead of the rich creating wealth through investing in job creation, they used the money to invest in wealth creation through schemes.
 
Cool, as long as you refund everything I've paid into it. I'll take that deal and so would most people who'll ever be worth anything in life.
 
Glad to see that they are not taxing the middle class with the majority of the burden since their ranks are slipping.

With our economic system, they want the citizens to spend money and take out loans, it is the one of the ways banks could create more money in their books based on the spending potential of the citizens as part of the system of debt.

Anyone who suspends social security will lose their political office; too many baby boomers turned old rabbits who are lucid to vote along with those approaching the age.

I simply wish the IRS was dissolved, but what would come in it's place has me nervous
 
Overtaxed is a relative term. If people don't think they are getting the services their taxes pay for, then they rightly consider themselves overtaxed.

Like if your money went mostly to bankers or you don't think you'll get the Social Security payments that you contributed all your life.

Rational people should be anti-government if this is what government is going to be.
 
Fact Check! ‘Overtaxed Americans’ Actually Pay Lowest Taxes Since Truman Days

Bullsh*t, people are taxed waaaay more now. Name a year during the Truman days where tax revenue was more than 2.5 Trillion!

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Are you adjusting it for inflation?
Are you conceding that the inflation rate can be measured in the hundreds of percents?

Because if the difference between the 50's and now can be explained by inflation, then inflation must be a few hundred percent.

Population changed by 100%.
 
raw numbers!

Ah, inflation......the other govt disease

we need a stable currency........Gold perhaps?

Is gold stable or is the price increasing every year?


You can't compare 2012 dollars, dollar for dollar, with 1950s dollars in a honest way.
 
You can't compare 2012 dollars, dollar for dollar, with 1950s dollars in a honest way.

Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation.

Inflation, (the rise in the money supply), should properly be recognized as an "invisible" tax, nothing more than a confiscation of wealth. That's why our standard of living is diminishing at such a rapid rate.

OVERTAXED
 
Great! Now, Thought, email Barack, and tell him to run on that note. Lets see how this work out...

:lol::lol:


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