Double Standard? Hopkins Praised, Pacquiao Smeared
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Right on the money. And he has done this multiple times with Pac and Cotto since 2007. That's why I don't see the fight happening at all...
As far as him dodging the issue, you're right on that too...All he has to do is just take the tests. Sure he could beat the test on any given fight, but who knows what would happen to him if we knew that he wasn't? We all knew how Marg fared against Mosley after he got caught with loaded gloves, and some of us see how Mosley has fared after he used the BALCO products. It would do some good if Pac proved to the public that he would be able to take those tests with no problem. Then it would sway the "popular" vote of blame to Floyd's side...
P.S. on a side note, the article where this is coming from is getting blasted on the forum where it is posted...And the users are roasting the writer more than either Pac or B-Hop...
Mosley was looking like shit even when he was on the Balco products. He might have even looked worse. In my opinion Mosley wasted his money and got his reputation ruined for nothing.
I'm not sure if you are saying this common bullshit I hear that people look like shit on the PED after they been caught. The biggest problem I have with that argument is that no one knows when a motherfucker got on the shit... All we know is when a motherfucker got caught. For instance Shane could have on that shit ever since he moved up to welterweight for all we know.
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=34277
Chad Dawson Hires Emanuel Steward For Pascal Rematch
TOTOWA, NJ – Former WBC and IBF light heavyweight champion CHAD DAWSON will be under new stewardship when he begins preparations for his rematch against WBC light heavyweight titlist Jean Pascal early next year. Hall of Fame trainer EMANUEL STEWARD has agreed to join Dawson’s corner as head trainer.
Steward has trained 41 world champion fighters, including Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Oscar De La Hoya, Wladimir Klitschko and Miguel Cotto.
“I have always been a big fan of Chad’s and I think he will bring excitement back to the light heavyweight division and to boxing,” said Steward. “I am not interested in winning decisions. I’m concussion crazy. I only want Chad to win by knockouts and I know that’s what he wants to do too. HBO’s investment in Chad is going to pay off big dividends and his stock will be a “strong buy” in 2011, especially after he destroys Pascal in their rematch.
“It was very frustrating watching Chad, who I think has an enormous amount of talent, fighting the wrong type of fight against Pascal,” continued Steward. “At this stage of my career, I’m only going to work with fighters who can achieve greatness and I see greatness in Chad Dawson. Chad Dawson will regain his light heavyweight title and perhaps add titles in the super middleweight and cruiserweight divisions. He is that talented.”
“This is a great holiday gift for Chad and his fans,” said his promoter Gary Shaw. “Chad needed a change in direction and we think Manny Steward is the perfect tonic. Manny is simply GREAT! He brings a lot of world championship success and experience with him. While promoting Lennox Lewis, I had the pleasure of watching his training methods firsthand. To say I was impressed would be a gross understatement. I know he will help Chad fulfill all his potential in becoming a complete top pound for pound fighter. Manny has vowed to bring Chad’s potent offense to the forefront when he challenges Pascal in their rematch next spring.
“Much of Chad’s past success is owed to his former trainer Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. But as they say, styles make fights, not just inside the ring but inside the gym and after reflecting on several issues following the Pascal fight, a change in trainer seemed to be the prudent decision. However, with that said, I have the utmost respect for Eddie as a man and as a professional.”
Dawson (29-1, 17 KOs), from New Haven, Conn., boasts victories over world champions Antonio Tarver (2). Glen Johnson (2), Tomasz Adamek and Carl Daniels.
Chad Dawson Hires Emanuel Steward For Pascal Rematch
TOTOWA, NJ – Former WBC and IBF light heavyweight champion CHAD DAWSON will be under new stewardship when he begins preparations for his rematch against WBC light heavyweight titlist Jean Pascal early next year. Hall of Fame trainer EMANUEL STEWARD has agreed to join Dawson’s corner as head trainer.
Steward has trained 41 world champion fighters, including Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Oscar De La Hoya, Wladimir Klitschko and Miguel Cotto.
“I have always been a big fan of Chad’s and I think he will bring excitement back to the light heavyweight division and to boxing,” said Steward. “I am not interested in winning decisions. I’m concussion crazy. I only want Chad to win by knockouts and I know that’s what he wants to do too. HBO’s investment in Chad is going to pay off big dividends and his stock will be a “strong buy” in 2011, especially after he destroys Pascal in their rematch.
“It was very frustrating watching Chad, who I think has an enormous amount of talent, fighting the wrong type of fight against Pascal,” continued Steward. “At this stage of my career, I’m only going to work with fighters who can achieve greatness and I see greatness in Chad Dawson. Chad Dawson will regain his light heavyweight title and perhaps add titles in the super middleweight and cruiserweight divisions. He is that talented.”
“This is a great holiday gift for Chad and his fans,” said his promoter Gary Shaw. “Chad needed a change in direction and we think Manny Steward is the perfect tonic. Manny is simply GREAT! He brings a lot of world championship success and experience with him. While promoting Lennox Lewis, I had the pleasure of watching his training methods firsthand. To say I was impressed would be a gross understatement. I know he will help Chad fulfill all his potential in becoming a complete top pound for pound fighter. Manny has vowed to bring Chad’s potent offense to the forefront when he challenges Pascal in their rematch next spring.
“Much of Chad’s past success is owed to his former trainer Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. But as they say, styles make fights, not just inside the ring but inside the gym and after reflecting on several issues following the Pascal fight, a change in trainer seemed to be the prudent decision. However, with that said, I have the utmost respect for Eddie as a man and as a professional.”
Dawson (29-1, 17 KOs), from New Haven, Conn., boasts victories over world champions Antonio Tarver (2). Glen Johnson (2), Tomasz Adamek and Carl Daniels.
A good number of folks were saying that he was on it when he hit 154 the first time...Saw differences in him between his 2nd fight with De La Hoya and the Winky fights...They surely saw more than I did cause it he didn't look that bad physically and seemed like he was in good condition when I went to the 1st Winky fight...
Another point that can be raised about the PED is that no one can really know the effects of it on other people or how their body responds to it...
A good number of folks were saying that he was on it when he hit 154 the first time...Saw differences in him between his 2nd fight with De La Hoya and the Winky fights...They surely saw more than I did cause it he didn't look that bad physically and seemed like he was in good condition when I went to the 1st Winky fight...
Another point that can be raised about the PED is that no one can really know the effects of it on other people or how their body responds to it...
All of that maybe true but the problem with the cheating is that it causes everything to come into question. We will never know what the fuck was going on for sure as far as when the cheating started and how niggas benefited from it. Now to touch on that a little... if it wasn't a benefit why would anyone do it? Why would sporting organizations all be against it?
Even with Margarito's hand wrap shit. No one knows how long he might of been doing that shit. Cotto might of been a victim of cheating and the way he was getting hurt.... if he had died from that shit, then what?
Look I know these niggas are modern day Gladiators and they know what they are risking in that ring, but that under the concept of fairness. Taking PED is not fair even though we don't have concrete proof simply because every fighter doesn't have access.
I just can't see any logical reason why to excuse the possibility of someone cheating, and take the position that the PED's might not do anything when we have no either way.
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Good questions...I guess some are able to benefit from it while others don't...The organizations are against it because it can create a competitive advantage for those who are able to utilize it well. Also, there may be short-term or long-term effects for those who use it or those who it is being used against...
Going with the case of Margarito...We may not know how long that he may have been doing that, but someone in the fight game does...It's like the situation back in the day with Luis Resto and Panama Lewis...at least one of those two knew what they were doing that night...it could be a similar case with Antonio...
As far as the boxers competing under the concept of fairness...sure, the concept is there, but that doesn't always mean that it will be exercised...therefore, the possibility of a fighter cheating will be there whether it is a small possibility or not...
I sort of agree with this, and I probably would have done the same thing. My only concern is, the last time Steward took on a passive fighter, Jermaine Taylor, it didn't work out. I would have probably considered Roach if he was available. Say what you want but he has a better track record with adjusting fighters mentality along with their skillset. Steward is a winner and a proven commodity as well though, so he should do much better next time. Plus, with the Hopkins fight, I believe Pascal may be messed up a little mentally knowing he got beat and stole that fight, and BHop provided the blue print to beat him. I look for Dawson to win next time, I would take my ass out of Canada though...
Floyd makes his way into another Manny thread huh?!?!?
Frankly, I believe both of them are equally to blame. I really don't thing either of them wanted to risk their 'legacies' in a fight that both didn't have full confidence they would win, so they used smoke and mirrors and self made road blocks to inhibit the fight... Some guys are just idiots, if I'm grabbing 30-50 mill for a fight, I truly don't give a damn about 1 loss. 20 years from now, going 45-0 or whatever won't pay any bills for me... And as far as Manny goes, he plays this I don't know what's going on shit, and has Roach and Arum do all of his talking, but I believe he has more to say about his fight choices than they let on... All that I fight who my promoter puts in front of me bull is for the birds!!! 
I completely agree and that is why I can't fault a fighter trying to protect themselves with extra precautions.... just like I can't give a fighter a pass if they are acting funny about proving their innocence.
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