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Russia deploys missile in apparent treaty violation


Washington (CNN)Moscow has deployed a cruise missile in an apparent treaty violation, a senior military official told CNN Tuesday.

The move is just the latest in a string of Russian provocations in the early days of the Trump administration, which has called for warmer relations with the Kremlin.
The traditional US adversary has also positioned a spy ship off the coast of Delaware and carried out flights near a US Navy warship, concerning American officials. The administration has not officially drawn any links between the three events.
The ground-launched cruise missile seems to run counter to the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, the senior military official said. The New York Times first reported is deployment.
While declining to speak on intelligence matters, a spokesman for the US State Department did draw attention to Russian violations of the treaty.
"The Russian Federation remains in violation of its INF Treaty obligations not to possess, produce or flight-test a ground-launched cruise missile with a range capability of 500 to 5,500 kilometers, or to possess or produce launchers of such missiles," acting spokesman Mark Toner said in a statement issued Tuesday.
Russia is believed to have tested one such missile in 2014.

"We have made very clear our concerns about Russia's violation, the risks it poses to European and Asian security, and our strong interest in returning Russia to compliance with the treaty," Toner added.
Just last week, a US navy warship in the Black Sea had three encounters with Russian aircraft Friday that were deemed to be unsafe and unprofessional because of how close the Russian planes flew to the US, according to a senior defense official.
The USS Porter, a destroyer, was operating in the Black Sea when it was approached three times by Russian aircraft, including one IL-38 and two SU-24s. The Navy calculated the Russian planes may be have flown as close as 1,000 yards laterally from the ship and 1,000 feet over the water, but did not cross the deck of the Porter.
Moscow pushed back on the allegation Tuesday, with Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov telling Russian state media "there has been no incident on February 10th involving flybys of Russian military planes in the Black Sea next to USS Porter."
Meanwhile, a US defense official told CNN that the Russian spy ship, the SSV-175 Viktor Leonov, is sailing in international waters off the coast of Delaware. The vessel is outfitted with a variety of high-tech spying equipment and is designed to intercept signals intelligence. Fox News first reported on the ship's location.
The official noted that this is not the first time the ship has been deployed off the coast of the US. Similar patrols were carried out by the Leonov in 2014 off the coast of Florida and in 2015, adding that such missions were much more common during the Cold War.
The Russian cruise missile would be capable of threatening NATO's European members. Secretary of Defense James Mattis is due to visit NATO's headquarters to meet with his counterparts Wednesday.
"The INF Treaty eliminated an entire category of weapons that threatened Europe, in particular the threat of short-warning attacks. The treaty remains a key component of our security, and any Russian non-compliance is a serious concern for the alliance," a NATO official told CNN.
"NATO allies have the capabilities in place to ensure that Russia will not gain any military advantage from disregarding the INF Treaty," the official added.
The Kremlin's moves come the day after Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, was forced to resign after failing to fully disclose conversations he had with Russia's ambassador to the US concerning US sanctions while he was not yet in office.


Trump has in the past expressed interest in arms reduction talks with the Kremlin and indicated he would seek a new opening with Moscow.
White House press secretary Sean Spicer, however, said Tuesday that, "The president has been incredibly tough on Russia."
Spicer pointed to UN Ambassador Nikki Haley's recent remarks on the Russia's actions in east Ukraine and occupation of Crimea, adding that Trump "expects the Russian government to deescalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea."
"At the same time he fully expects to and wants to be able to get along with Russia unlike previous administrations," he added.
In a Tuesday evening tweet, the Russian embassy in Washington said Russia "will continue to patiently explain to the new US administration why Crimea is Russia."
Trump himself, though, repeatedly praised Putin on the campaign trail as well as since being elected, while offering few if any criticisms.
Asked about sanctions against Russia, newly minted Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said Tuesday that sanctions were an important tool but would not specify any intensions towards Russia.
"Our current sanctions programs are in place, and I would say sanctions are an important tool that we will continue to look at for various different countries. But it's a very important program within the Treasury Department," Mnuchin said.
In contrast, Sen. Tom Cotton, an Arkansas Republican, called for a strong response to the cruise missile.
"If the last administration showed us anything, it's that ignoring these kinds of provocations simply means they will proliferate," he said in a statement. "I've said before we need to set firm boundaries for Russia's behavior -- and enforce them to the hilt. I take this news as evidence that the US should build up its nuclear forces in Europe."



http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/14/politics/russia-cruise-missile-spy-ship/index.html?adkey=bn
 
Nah, it would be the end of civilization as we know it. Banks and corporations wouldn't allow it to happen since money would be lost. Russia will continue to have full autonomy over which nations they conquer as long as they aren't our first world allies. My $.02
 
My spider senses are tingling. If the dossier is to be believed Trump is Russia's useful idiot. A useful idiot loses all value if he loses credibility with the public. With investigations into Trump's pervasive Russia connection ramping up Putin needs to lob this orange fuck a softball. Look for a strong denouncement and tough talk from Trump and co... something that gives the impression that they're not fucking with Russia at all. Shit seems transparent af to me :smh:
 
War possible agenda:
1. Iran
2. Iraq
3. North Korea
4. China
 
Ain't shit going to happen but barking. Russia moving weapons behind its own borders. U.S. is building defense in the region and they told Russia it was for Iran. :hmm: They both fucking with each other.

Once the Trump White House gets done throwing folks under the bus, Trump will try to talk tough on Russia while keeping sanctions.
 
Ain't shit going to happen but barking. Russia moving weapons behind its own borders. U.S. is building defense in the region and they told Russia it was for Iran. :hmm: They both fucking with each other.

Once the Trump White House gets done throwing folks under the bus, Trump will try to talk tough on Russia while keeping sanctions.

not an actual nuclear war, but a cyber and propaganda war gone full blast...

oh hell to the yea....

since its slowly coming out, russia got its queen trump making moves on the chess board..

its about to get real serious..
 
not an actual nuclear war, but a cyber and propaganda war gone full blast...

oh hell to the yea....

since its slowly coming out, russia got its queen trump making moves on the chess board..

its about to get real serious..

Yeah, I agree about the cyber and propaganda shit. Feels like I'm back in the 1980s right now. But if you believe these cacs running this country let a Russian puppet become president, I got a 480 bridge up here in Ohio to sell you. This shit is going to get ugly in terms of Trump trying to prove the opposite. GOP already hawks on Russia, now Democrats are too.
 
Yeah, I agree about the cyber and propaganda shit. Feels like I'm back in the 1980s right now. But if you believe these cacs running this country let a Russian puppet become president, I got a 480 bridge up here in Ohio to sell you. This shit is going to get ugly in terms of Trump trying to prove the opposite. GOP already hawks on Russia, now Democrats are too.

but the gop is looking really bad now, they are just acting like nothing is wrong..

and military leaders are starting to call them out on it...

this shit is crazy and he hasnt even been in office a full month yet..

if this was president O, from fox news, to red necks, to the whole republican party across america would be having fits..

I mean full retard shut the govt down fits..

just look at how they carried on over a gotdam birth certificate..

now imagine treason, which pretty soon it looks like our boy agent orange may start to hear that word thrown around more often, and when that happens you better believe impeachment is right around the corner
 
but the gop is looking really bad now, they are just acting like nothing is wrong..

and military leaders are starting to call them out on it...

this shit is crazy and he hasnt even been in office a full month yet..

if this was president O, from fox news, to red necks, to the whole republican party across america would be having fits..

I mean full retard shut the govt down fits..

just look at how they carried on over a gotdam birth certificate..

now imagine treason, which pretty soon it looks like our boy agent orange may start to hear that word thrown around more often, and when that happens you better believe impeachment is right around the corner

That's the problem. Cacs basically split 50/50. GOP only looking bad to the left. Just like other people, military leaders can be partisan. And you're correct, Obama would have caught hell -- any democrat would have. Democrats are just weaker than republicans.

The problem with Trump is he is a scumbag narcissist. This might bring people around him down, but he's the type to manipulate people even when they think they manipulating him. That's what narcissists do. When it comes to dictating pace, GOP does it better than democrats. When it comes to dictating pace, Trump does it better than GOP.

This cockroach will survive. The gameplan should be mid-terms and the 2020 election. He's going to beat this Russia shit.
 
My spider senses are tingling. If the dossier is to be believed Trump is Russia's useful idiot. A useful idiot loses all value if he loses credibility with the public. With investigations into Trump's pervasive Russia connection ramping up Putin needs to lob this orange fuck a softball. Look for a strong denouncement and tough talk from Trump and co... something that gives the impression that they're not fucking with Russia at all. Shit seems transparent af to me :smh:
Then the sanctions will never be lifted which was a big part of Russia end game. This is a no-win situation for trump
 
That's the problem. Cacs basically split 50/50. GOP only looking bad to the left. Just like other people, military leaders can be partisan. And you're correct, Obama would have caught hell -- any democrat would have. Democrats are just weaker than republicans.

The problem with Trump is he is a scumbag narcissist. This might bring people around him down, but he's the type to manipulate people even when they think they manipulating him. That's what narcissists do. When it comes to dictating pace, GOP does it better than democrats. When it comes to dictating pace, Trump does it better than GOP.

This cockroach will survive. The gameplan should be mid-terms and the 2020 election. He's going to beat this Russia shit.

A part of me is saying that Trump is playing the media, Russia, and the political establishment like a fiddle.

The biggest elephant in the room right now is the fate of the EU. This is why Trump will be protected at the moment. If the EU falls, and there's a power vacuum of any kind. Russia, UK, and the US will have to be on some WW 2 mutual allies shit.

If you think about it, Russia absolutely needs the United States strong if that happens, and Trump knows it.
 
Then the sanctions will never be lifted which was a big part of Russia end game. This is a no-win situation for trump

Russia is in a no win situation as well.

They will have to give up Crimea for starts.

All this shit will blow over once that, and having an agreement to allow the UN to deal with Iran.

Trump folks could have personally gave Putin a blowjob. No one would give a damn if Russia cooperate in such of a manner.
 
Shit I don't know how y'all can form a opinion about US and Russia


Is trump a friend or foe of Putin

Is trump trying to destroy the America economy for his personal gains.

If the CIA been watch the trump and Putin connection, why was it possible for him to get to this point of being elected, is they in on this also.

If the Repigs knew of the mess surrounding him, why would they let him get to this point.

If the democRats knew this crap, why they didn't go I in his ass to convince the independents to side with them.

Lastly but not least why the Fuck they didn't put another person to run against him.
 
No war,Russia has too much shit going on in their economy to go to war. Russia is playing political games.
 
Shit I don't know how y'all can form a opinion about US and Russia


Is trump a friend or foe of Putin

Is trump trying to destroy the America economy for his personal gains.

If the CIA been watch the trump and Putin connection, why was it possible for him to get to this point of being elected, is they in on this also.

If the Repigs knew of the mess surrounding him, why would they let him get to this point.

If the democRats knew this crap, why they didn't go I in his ass to convince the independents to side with them.


Lastly but not least why the Fuck they didn't put another person to run against him.

Been asking that shit. :popcorn:
 
Been asking that shit. :popcorn:


Right, but all folks gonna tell you it was the people who set on their asses and didn't vote fault.
I had to bless a cat sole, they other day at work with about that. I don't talk much so when I said this, they was shocked.

Talking about the non voting people should be ashamed of what's happening in this country. They could've easily went to the poles and voted against Trump.

No motherfucker it's not my fucking fault, I didn't think highly of Hillary when she ran against Obama back then.
Maybe I didn't get the memo where I was suppose to change my thoughts because she wasnt running against Obama....

Smh....get the Fuck outta my face with that shit.
Nope it was fuck her back then, it's still fuck her and it's will be fuck her if there's a next time.
 
There won't have to be a war our president is leaving the door wide open for them to take over. He probably gave them the nuclear codes already.
 
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Another Cold War. But people talking about World Wars but it looks like the real possibility that the sitting president is a damn near spy.... impeachment coming up

Damn near? It's already confirmed by Flynn's actions that he was a spy for Russia hence the intelligence community withholding info because they know it will get back to the Kremlin...

Trumps entire White House staff are spy's
 
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