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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Can you expound on this?

I could write a book on this. But, who would read it? Bookstores aren't exactly popular in Detroit so only the whites would read it. Thus, it defeats the whole point.

Anyway... there is an economic boycott and a cold race war happening in the city that has been happening since 1967.

Whites who were born after '67 know to treat Detroit as hostile. Of course, your downriver types are a special breed since they are considered the lowest of the whites. But, I think you know the dynamic that is happening around here with the suburbs.

You should listen to some of the whites in their unguarded moments when talking about Detroit or black people. You really see that you're as low as S*IT to them and Detroit is a 3rd world country. Of course, they will see you as DIFFERENT if they speak like this. But, it's still startling, given that some appear to be the most comfortable around non-whites.

If you are from Detroit, have you ever noticed that forced politeness or latent hostility or condescending attitude when dealing with whites around here? It is wild because it is nothing like that when dealing with non-whites.

It's gotten to the point I can tell if a white is not from the area just by their response to me.

The evidence is everywhere of the continuing race war in Detroit.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

there is an economic boycott and a cold race war happening in the city that has been happening since 1967.

This is very true but when will Detroiters be able to stand on their own two feet and say fuck the 'burbs?

With the high crime rate and piss poor school system middle class blacks are fleeing the city thus further eroding the already frail tax base and gentrification is in full effect.
 
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This is very true but when will Detroiters be able to stand on their own two feet and say fuck the 'burbs?

With the high crime rate and piss poor school system middle class blacks are fleeing the city thus further eroding the already frail tax base and gentrification is in full effect.

If this were just about Detroiters, there wouldn't be any issue.

But, when you have the honkeys attacking every attempt made in Detroit to establish autonomy, power, or control over their future... magically there is an FBI investigation, Justice department prosecution, scandal uncovered by the newspapers or TV, or just outright takeover by the Feds or the State government.

You saw what happened with the schools.
You saw what happened with the casinos.
You saw what happened with Coleman Young.
You see what is happening with the City Council and Kwame.

The old heads know that the whites HATE seeing black people in power and will use any excuse to unleash the full criminal justice system against them for any transgression (real or imagined).

If you don't include whites, they send everything and the kitchen sink after you to make you concede to their authority.

I bet there is not a single black millionaire in Detroit who doesn't have an FBI file, past or ongoing investigation, IRS case, or criminal proceeding either in the works or in process.

These honkeys are attacking continuously. How the hell can you build something when someone is constantly attacking you?

I've learned, the best way to handle these honkeys is not let them know you exist. It's the only way to get anything done.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

We all know the problems but when will a leader emerge with the answer?

Detroit is definitely a Chocolate City but the city leaders are only concerned with lining their own pockets, the city has huge money problems but Mayor Bing buys a new GMC Denali to ride around in as soon as he takes office, what kind of message does that send to the people?

Even when Young was in office renovation never extended beyond Downtown, the neighborhoods have been constantly ignored, but the killing part is that most Detroiters don't have love for the city and don't bother to police their own neighborhoods, you can't leave a home empty without some dickhead vandalizing it and creating another eyesore, you see trash every where.

Until Detroiters have pride in their own city it will continue to spiral out of control until the outsiders finally get the city back.
 
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We all know the problems but when will a leader emerge with the answer?

Detroit is definitely a Chocolate City but the city leaders are only concerned with lining their own pockets, the city has huge money problems but Mayor Bing buys a new GMC Denali to ride around in as soon as he takes office, what kind of message does that send to the people?

Even when Young was in office renovation never extended beyond Downtown, the neighborhoods have been constantly ignored, but the killing part is that most Detroiters don't have love for the city and don't bother to police their own neighborhoods, you can't leave a home empty without some dickhead vandalizing it and creating another eyesore, you see trash every where.

Until Detroiters have pride in their own city it will continue to spiral out of control until the outsiders finally get the city back.

Even a dog does not shit where he lays his head.
 
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We all know the problems but when will a leader emerge with the answer?

Detroit is definitely a Chocolate City but the city leaders are only concerned with lining their own pockets, the city has huge money problems but Mayor Bing buys a new GMC Denali to ride around in as soon as he takes office, what kind of message does that send to the people?

Who cares? It's a car, not a mink coat, a diamond-studded bracelet, or a yacht. It's a car you use to drive around the city.

A black mayor of one of the biggest cities in the country, it's a great injustice. A white company forceloses hundreds of homes in the city making black people homeless, no one cares.

A black man buys a car it's bad.
A white steals your home, it's okay.

Even when Young was in office renovation never extended beyond Downtown, the neighborhoods have been constantly ignored, but the killing part is that most Detroiters don't have love for the city and don't bother to police their own neighborhoods, you can't leave a home empty without some dickhead vandalizing it and creating another eyesore, you see trash every where.

Well, I'm a big fan of small government. So, keeping the city out of the neighborhoods made sense to me.

But, you're joking if you think Detroit doesn't have lots of nice neighborhoods. Those problems with abandoned homes happen everywhere in the country, and will get worse. That is not peculiar to Detroit. At least, Detroiters know how to cope with it. For places like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Atlanta, and Miami, it will be a new experience.

Until Detroiters have pride in their own city it will continue to spiral out of control until the outsiders finally get the city back.

Even a dog does not shit where he lays his head.[/SIZE]

Who said people don't believe in the city. Like I said, there are many amenities and communities in the city that are quite nice and livable.

I think the whites have convinced you that the gold isn't real. It's funny, the so-called smart, successful black people who left the city are the ones who bought the brainwashing first and got played the quickest.

Every problem you mention about Detroit (terrible schools, corrupt politicians, abandoned homes, crime, poor city services) can apply to every other city in the country (NYC, Chicago, Houston, Seattle, Denver, etc.).

Yet, because Detroit is a city without honkeys in charge, it is the greatest disaster known to man.

The disaster is the honkeys waging war on a city without people willing to fight them back.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

You are preaching to the choir but what answers do you propose?

1. Are you admitting that blacks could not sustain the city without white intervention.

2. Detroit has been under black leadership since 1973 so how can we blame the suburbanites for our black on black crime, poor school system, and neighborhood blight?

3. Take a look at downtown, if it was not for Mike Ilitch and a few more white people what would it look like now?

4. As far as foreclosures are concerned, nobody holds a gun to your head to sign a mortgage and it states right there the process if you default.

5. In the grand scheme the decline of the auto industry had more effect on Detroit than "White Flight".


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1. Cleveland, Ohio

2. Stockton, Calif.

3. Memphis, Tenn.

4. Detroit, Mich.

5. Flint, Mich.


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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

You are preaching to the choir but what answers do you propose?

My proposal is to be successful without drawing attention to yourself. It's difficult but you have to be low-key. Don't advertise your success. Stay out of the NEWS!

1. Are you admitting that blacks could not sustain the city without white intervention.

No. I am saying anytime black people show any success in the city, whites rush in to destroy it (FBI, Justice Department, State intervention, corporate lobbying, etc.).

2. Detroit has been under black leadership since 1973 so how can we blame the suburbanites for our black on black crime, poor school system, and neighborhood blight?

The crime is due to no jobs.

I know people in the school system and it has little to do with black people and everything to do with honkeys meddling in the system. All the contracts go to honkey businesses. If it's black-controlled, why aren't black businesses thriving?

Neighborhood blight, a large part in my opinion, has to do with no mass transit. The auto companies have been fighting that for decades. They don't want to see the city autonomous and functional without cars.

3. Take a look at downtown, if it was not for Mike Ilitch and a few more white people what would it look like now?

If anything, it's the other way around. Detroit made Ilitch. If it weren't for the Fox District, Ilitch would be a nobody. Just another rich white boy from the suburbs.

Detroit doesn't need any of these honkeys to thrive and survive. That's my point. They are just leeching what the city has to offer. Why the hell couldn't a developler in the city have done that? I know a few with the resources to do so. It was because of Archer, that's why.

Archer made it a point to block out black businessmen from getting big contracts in the city. And, the asshole isn't even from Detroit.

4. As far as foreclosures are concerned, nobody holds a gun to your head to sign a mortgage and it states right there the process if you default.

The entire concept of a mortage is a scam. But, that's another topic. It is an invalid contract. But, will that prevent these honkeys from using the courts to take black people's homes? Nope.

5. In the grand scheme the decline of the auto industry had more effect on Detroit than "White Flight".

I agree. But, I think Detroit needs to destroy GM. They will always stand in the way of progess, in the city.

America's Top 5 Most Miserable Cities

1. Cleveland, Ohio

2. Stockton, Calif.

3. Memphis, Tenn.

4. Detroit, Mich.

5. Flint, Mich.


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I have a list of white supremacist sources that almost NEVER have anything positive to say about black people...

National Geographic
Reuters
Time
Detroit News/Detroit Free Press
and of course

YAHOO!

I just hope they keep it up because it keeps the honkeys away from the city.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Mark my words when the Rail system goes online Wooward from Hart Plaza to at Least Pontiac is going to blow the fuck up!!

I hope you are right about that...sadly...My god I have info about who may key word, may be running that system if true it could be doomed from the start.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

I hope you are right about that...sadly...My god I have info about who may key word, may be running that system if true it could be doomed from the start.

This is what I'm talking about.

Detroit desperately needs a mass transit system to cover the city. Yet, over and over it is sabotaged.

It's like someone decided the city will not have an integrated bus system, nor rail, nor trolley, nor electric streetcar, nor tramway.

You're usually right about these things, but I sure hope not this time around.
 
Re: Detroit mayor says city must shrink: That's right some neighborhoods must die

"you better not fall for that relocation bullsheit...."

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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?


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America's Top 5 Most Miserable Cities

1. Cleveland, Ohio

2. Stockton, Calif.

3. Memphis, Tenn.

4. Detroit, Mich.

5. Flint, Mich.


http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/americas-most-miserable-cities-2010


Detroit Tops 2013 List Of America's Most Miserable Cities





I have a list of white supremacist sources that almost NEVER have anything positive to say about black people...

National Geographic
Reuters
Time
Detroit News/Detroit Free Press
and of course

YAHOO!

I just hope they keep it up because it keeps the honkeys away from the city.


Add Forbes . . .







 
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Detroit in a Handbasket ?​



FOX News: Michigan Governor Rick Snyder has decided to take the extraordinary step of choosing an independent overseer to confront the city's $327 million budget deficit and $14 billion in long-term debt.

. . . no specific individual would be announced during a forum he scheduled for mid-day Friday to discuss the city's financial situation . . . [but] if he agrees [with the Governor] that a financial emergency exists, which he is expected to do, there would be an appeals process . . .

"There's a 10-day appeals period," he said. "There's potentially a hearing. Then after that, [the Governor] would [either] reaffirm his decision or change his decision. If [the governor] reaffirms [his] decision then it could lead to an emergency manager announcement."

Under Michigan Law: Emergency managers have the power to develop financial plans, renegotiate labor contracts, revise and approve budgets to help control spending, sell off city assets not restricted by charter and suspend the salaries of elected officials.

A state-appointed review team made public on Feb. 19 its determination that Detroit is in a financial emergency and submitted its report to Snyder. The team found that "no satisfactory plan exists to resolve a serious financial problem" in the city, leaving Snyder to mull over whether to appoint a manager.​







 
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Does Michigan's Emergency-Manager
Law Disenfranchise Black Citizens?


A state law provides for takeover of cities with troubled finances. It
just happens that the worst-hit places are also the poorest and blackest.




In Michigan, emergency skews black.

State-appointed emergency managers currently run Detroit along with five other Michigan cities and three school districts. While the cities under emergency management together contain just nine percent of Michigan's population, they contain, notably, about half of the state's African-American residents.

Michigan's Public Act 436 allows the governor to appoint emergency managers with near-absolute power in cash-strapped cities, towns, and school districts. Emergency managers can supersede local ordinances, sell city assets, and break union contracts -- leaving local elected officials without real authority.

"It totally decimates democracy," Detroit resident Catherine Phillips says of state takeover. "We have the right by federal law to allow us to go and choose by way of voting who we want to represent us in municipalities and school districts. By implementation of this dictator law, they have taken that right away."

Phillips is a plaintiff in a lawsuit filed in March against the state. She and a group of politicians, unions, activists, and residents from affected districts argue that PA 436 violates their constitutional right to equal protection.

The suit highlights the paradox of American municipal governance.

Local government is deeply ingrained in the ethos
of American democracy, from colonial-era New
England town hall meetings to New York City's
experiment with people-powered budgeting.

But it is not an inalienable right. The U.S. Constitution guarantees all states a "republican government," but gives states power to grant -- or not grant -- home rule to municipalities.

Governor Rick Snyder, a Republican, contends that the state has an obligation to make sure local governments are on solid fiscal footing. Despite the demographic disproportions in the affected cities, it's unlikely that discrimination has motivated the governor's EM appointments. The areas under emergency management are some of Michigan's largest clusters of concentrated poverty, ravaged by decades of deindustrialization.

Discrimination aside, the Michigan appointments -- whether constitutional or not -- set a troubling precedent by curtailing local representation in the state's most chronically impoverished cities.


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PA 436 passed late last year shortly after a statewide referendum overturned a previous version -- PA 4, signed into law by Snyder in 2011. Before PA 4 and PA 436, emergency managers existed in Michigan but with narrower authority; the governor and his supporters argued the existing law didn't give emergency managers the tools needed to do their job effectively.

Under PA 436, Michigan can conduct a financial review of any locality that meets one of more than a dozen criteria, such as a poor long-term debt rating, a missed payment to a pension fund, or evidence of "probable financial stress" in the estimation of the state treasurer. Based on the review, the governor decides whether there is a financial emergency. A locality can try to evade emergency management through several mechanisms, but the state gets the final word.

The plaintiffs in the lawsuit against PA 436 are from Detroit, Pontiac, Benton Harbor, Flint, and the Detroit Public Schools, but if the law is found unconstitutional, it will affect all Michigan districts under emergency management. The suit makes 11 claims against PA 436. Among them, it says the law violates the due process right to collectively bargain and elect officials with legislative power; that it violates the Voting Rights Act; and that it violates citizens' right to petition government.

Most importantly, they argue that the law violates the constitutional right to equal protection. Since they can't vote for officials who have real power, citizens living under emergency management have their votes diluted.

"The provisions of PA 436 and the powers granted thereby, are not necessary, narrowly tailored, rationally, or otherwise lawfully related to achieving the asserted government interests of achieving local government financial stability," the plaintiffs' complaint reads.

State officials said that they are unable to comment on the specifics of pending litigation, but maintain that the law is constitutional.

"Local governments are subdivisions of the state, and the governor -- an elected official -- has a clear constitutional role and responsibility in addressing these financial emergencies and protecting the health, safety and welfare of residents," Snyder spokeswoman Sara Wurfel said in a statement.

Robert Sedler, distinguished professor of law at Wayne State University, says the most compelling of plaintiffs' charges is that PA 436 violates their right to self-governance.

"It raises a question of equal protection," Sedler says. "Has the state improperly discriminated between voters in places -- like say Southfield where I live -- where they have complete control over their local government ... and cities like Detroit?"

To win the case, though, plaintiffs will have to do more than prove that PA 436 disproportionately impacts certain groups. The government doesn't have to treat all of its citizens exactly the same; the question is whether the government's interest (financial stability, in this case) is important enough to justify treating citizens differently, and whether the law is an appropriate way of protecting that interest.

"It is a question of whether the state has a sufficiently important interest to override self-governance," Sedler says.

A federal court will decide. Defendants turn in their pleading to U.S. district court on May 14. But even if the law is upheld, it doesn't mean all is well in Michigan.


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There's a long precedent for state intervention in cities with busted budgets. The state takeover of near-bankrupt New York in the 1970s might be the best-known example. Right now, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; Atlantic City, New Jersey; and Nassau County, New York, are also under state control.

Michigan stands out not just for the number of cities with emergency managers, but also for the scope of takeover. State control is traditionally limited to finances, but in Michigan emergency managers have the authority to handle all city affairs, and they have exercised it. In Benton Harbor, former EM Joe Harris issued an order stating that without his approval, city officials weren't allowed to do anything more than call a meeting and approve minutes.

Whether in Harrisburg or Benton Harbor, the logic of state intervention is that local officials are culpable for a city's budget crisis -- or at least incapable of solving it. If your captain is sailing your ship toward the rocks, you better get a new captain.

"Making difficult political decisions can be very trying for elected officials," says Terry Stanton, spokesman for the Michigan Department of Treasury. In most cases, emergency managers have taken the reins from local officials who had "the inability and in some cases the unwillingness ... to address the problem they face," he says.

The change can be productive for cities in crisis, says Mark Funkhouser, director of the Governing Institute, citing New York in the 1970s and Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., in the 1990s.

"Those are all cases where I think some sort of state intervention -- or in the case of D.C., federal intervention -- some sort of control board or oversight agency actually contributed to a turnaround for the city," he said.

In each case, local sovereignty was infringed -- but Funkhouser argues it was inescapable. "If you screw up your finances bad enough, you are going to lose your sovereignty for awhile," he says. "If you stop paying the rent, you're going be out on the street, and you're not going be able to say 'Well I want to live here, I want to live there, I want to do this, I want to buy a pizza.'"

But much like Funkhouser's delinquent renters, cities can fall victim to events beyond their control.

"To understand Detroit requires going back to the immediate post-World War II years," says Thomas Sugrue, professor of history and sociology at the University of Pennsylvania and author of The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Race and Inequality in Postwar Detroit. That's when industry began to leave the city for lower-wage areas, and metro Detroit saw "rapid and almost galactic suburbanization."

Detroit lost hundreds of thousands of jobs, and discrimination determined who was able to follow them out. "The vast majority of the people who moved out of Detroit were white," Sugrue says. "So what you see left behind is a population that is poorer, more likely to be underemployed or working class, and more subject to the vagaries of the economy."

While the process was especially stark in Detroit, deindustrialization hammered most Northern and Midwestern manufacturing cities. On top of that, Michigan cities have lost income from local taxes and state revenue sharing during the recession -- making it nearly impossible to stanch the decline for now.

It all suggests that financial health depends upon more than the captain who is steering the ship.

Terry Stanton, the treasury spokesman, seems to agree. "You've got, in many cases, local units that have seen a loss of residents, a loss of tax base, a drop in property values. Those are the big drivers," he says. Despite these structural issues, Stanton argues that state intervention is justified.

"Local units are components of the state, and the state has a responsibility to ensure that they are financially stable," he says.

Legally speaking he may not be wrong, but that's precisely the problem. Plaintiffs point out that all but one of the Michigan cities under state control have poverty rates at least double the state average.

If population loss and a depleted tax base can prompt
emergency management, does that mean local
government is a luxury poor people can't afford?​



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If so, it would be a big loss for places like Detroit, Flint, Pontiac, and Benton Harbor.

"The overall health of a community depends on people's sense of having a stake in it," said David Bullock, pastor of two Detroit area churches and founder of the civic group Change Agent Consortium. "Emergency management just works against long-term stability and health for communities, because the people on the ground feel like they don't have any voice or value."

So should there never be any state intervention anywhere? That's a timeless and thorny philosophical dilemma: should autonomy be respected even if it leads to self-harm?

Opinions will always vary but regardless of the answer, it seems unfair for the autonomy question to be so sharply correlated with income. Coming in the wake of deindustrialization, recession, and persistent poverty, state intervention has disproportionately impacted the people who -- because of race and class -- have been given the least opportunity to succeed in America.

States have intervened when crises are especially acute, but in many ways the crisis is chronic. For example, although a state control board (and federal loans worth $10 billion in today's dollars) brought New York back from the brink in the 1970s, the city still has a 21 percent poverty rate -- same as it had in 1980.

Some of the Michigan cities under state control are even repeat offenders. Ecorse went into state receivership in the 1980s, Flint had an emergency manager from 2002 to 2004, and the state is currently reviewing the finances of Hamtramck, under state control from 2000 to 2007.

It would be one thing if emergency managers were effective at fixing the disinvestment at the root of cities' struggles. But since they aren't, state takeover is more a symptom of hardship than solution to it, balancing budgets but increasing the disenfranchisement of the people who -- again because of race and class -- have experienced the most of it.

"I'm old enough to remember the struggle for voting rights for African Americans," said Phillips, 55, the Detroit resident. "And still within my lifetime, I'm fighting the same battle again."


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by Daniel Denvir

In the opening scene of Detropia, a new documentary by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady, a house is demolished with an excavator, the bucket crashing through a roof that once provided a family's shelter. A television news correspondent out front, speaking with his medium's disconcertingly positive tone, provides a bleak synopsis. “This is the downsizing of Detroit. You're watching it live. These are houses that are never coming back. It's going back to the prairie.”

Detropia is devastating. But it's populated by the sorts of characters that have made Detroit irresistible to me: hilarious, persistent, angry, upbeat. Take Tommy Stephens, a retired schoolteacher and owner of The Raven blues club who works his deep fryer in a business suit. Walking his block, he points out a house gutted by fire, blaming pyromaniacs responsible for some portion of Detroit's ubiquitous arsons. They get off on it, he suggests. Like, masturbate. “You got some sick people in America,” he ruminates. And you do get the sense that he's not just talking about the masturbating pyromaniacs.

The filmmakers arrive in the early stages of Detroit's next big plan: Former Pistons star and Mayor David Bing is going to downsize Detroit. The plan is called Detroit Works, and it has an entirely sensible premise. A city that boasted a population of 1.8 million in 1950, with a landmass large enough to fit San Francisco, Manhattan, Boston and more inside, is now home to 700,000 residents. Or fewer. Detroit lost 25 percent of its remaining population in just one decade, according to the 2010 census. From America's fastest growing city in 1930 to its fastest shrinking one today. And it shrinks every day.

The plan is to consolidate the population in the city's most viable neighborhoods, which makes a lot of sense except for the people who don't live in them. People scream at Bing: The plan, one woman attending a community forum yells, is to “burn us out.” Public transit, in a metropolis that is already painfully difficult to traverse without a car but where nearly a quarter of people do not have one, is cut too. “What am I to do if all I have is a bus,” asks one woman who leaves home every day at 7:30 AM to make it to work by ten. Another man tells officials that God will be their judge.

During my last visit in May, the Detroit Free Press described the rollout of the mayor's plan, which includes a cut-off of funds to assist low-income people with home repairs in areas declared “distressed.” It's triage. But the plan is cruel: It includes no money to help residents who have stood by Detroit―and who have invested years of their lives and thousands of dollars―move elsewhere.

The sad fact is that Mayor Bing is likely the most powerful person in the country who has any sort of plan for Detroit. The forces in control are out-of-town: the Republican governor taking over city and school management, the bookends of opaque financial transactions in distant New York office towers, or national politicians who only propose cuts. In Detropia, the wealth that built up the industrial middle class is gone, and the people left behind scavenge through its refuse for scrap metal like copper or steel. In one remarkable scene, a group of unemployed young men standing amidst ruins use a rope tied to a pickup truck to pull down an abandoned building. One scrapper, hypothesizing over the steel's ultimate destination, correctly notes that it is likely going to China, “so they can make shit and send it back here and sell it for more.” Actually, as it turns out, for cheaper.


In the New York Times style section and similar pages, Detroit is often on the verge of a comeback forged by young artists opening coffee shops and maybe urban farms. Take last July: “An influx of young creative types is turning Detroit into a Midwestern TriBeCa.” Everything wrong with this article and others like it is summed up by a single telling correction: “An article last Sunday about revitalization in downtown Detroit referred incorrectly to the Detroit Party Marching Band. They received their uniforms from a high school band director in Iowa; the uniforms were not found in an abandoned Detroit public school.”

It was some variant of this popular Detroit comeback story that the filmmakers initially planned to tell. Spending a lot of time in Detroit disabused them of the idea―as it did me. The new coffee shops and crêperies are great and certainly met my niche consumer demands. And the film by no means bashes them. But unless coffee shop owners plan to train and hire hundreds of thousands of baristas, frontier hipsterdom seems relatively insignificant next to, say, the federal government creating an industrial policy.

The film has some blind spots that could be remedied to good cinematic effect. Mostly ignored is the critical role that racism played in the construction of Detroit, a suburban city of modest single-family homes. There are black and white people everywhere in Detropia. But the fact that Detroit is 83 percent black, when it was 83 percent white in 1950, is unmentioned. Footage of the 1967 riots is shown, but without context. White Detroit often points to the riot as the moment when black people destroyed their city and forced them to flee to suburbs. But Detroit's core problems, including sky-high structural black unemployment and the relocation of industry, preceded the burning and looting. It took place during a time when violent white neighborhood organizations fought to maintain segregated housing.

Also missing: the area's Arab population, the nation's largest, or Mexicantown, one of the city's most vibrant neighborhoods. Or Detroit's three enormous casinos, filled with people who look like they cannot afford to be gambling, shiny vacuums of global capitalism sucking out what little wealth remains from the ruins. Bleak.

The co-directors also pipe in audio from talk radio and cable news without identifying the names or affiliations of talking heads. This is jarring. But this documentary, which focuses in on the neglected subject of the city's black middle class, can't be about everything.

Detroiters are also a notoriously tough crowd. Locals are particularly critical of a genre of photography derided as “ruin porn,” the picturesque shots of magnificently abandoned buildings―like the vaulting, crumbling heights of the 18-story Michigan Central Station―that have proliferated across the internet. And for good reason. Ruin porn engages a post-human pastoralism that celebrates the city's collapse. Yet ruins are an inescapable reality. It's hard to take a photo of the city that doesn't include something abandoned or just plain absent. The film's impressionist, poetic approach captures the eerie calm of a big emptied out place. It's the same sort of silence I've heard in Cleveland and Youngstown. The ruin captured in Detropia is visually beautiful, but relentlessly not romantic. The shots hit hard and hurt. Like they should.

Similarly, Detropia catapults over charges of parachute journalism by putting the decay in context and by allowing Detroiters to be their guide. Crystal Starr, a Detroit video blogger, is a recurrent chaperone through the city's abandoned wonders.

“Can you imagine like having breakfast right here? Look at your view, look at your view in the morning.” The abandoned kitchen looks over a smattering of houses and a deep sea of green trees, out to the downtown skyscrapers. “Like yeah, I'm going to go out and conquer the world because I can damn near see it from right here.” She channels Detroit like a medium. “I feel like I was maybe here a little while back. Or I'm older than I really am but I just have this young body, and spirit and mind. But I have the memory of this place when it was banging.”

The film nurtures the sort of existential crisis in American national identity that Detroit should have long since provoked. Instead, America's political class is in total denial of decline and refuses to diagnose the political-economic disease rotting out the core. Detropia is an antidote to that Thomas Friedman version of reality.

The camera follows the United Auto Workers Local 22's surreal negotiations with management at American Axle, which demand another round of humiliating pay cuts backed by a threat to move the last bit of work overseas. “This is what we need to keep Detroit vibrant,” the company tells union president George McGregor.

Workers already at the bottom of the factory rung, making $14.35 per hour, would go down to $11.

“After the plant left, shit, the neighborhood left. It just went. Kapoo,” says McGregor, behind the wheel of his Cadillac, describing where the Cadillac assembly plant once stood. The lot, where McGregor held his first job, now stores dumpsters. “They built a new plant in Mexico, and all the work's in Mexico. That's where it's at.”

Autoworkers picket the North American International Auto Show, protesting plant closures. Inside, Chevrolet unveils the electric-powered Volt accompanied by a hopeful modern dance troupe celebrating the power of nature. But Raven owner Tommy Stephens is troubled by a Chinese electric car across the showroom that costs half the price. The GM plant down the street once signed his customers' paychecks. The Raven used to have a cook.

At this point in the review, you should see this point coming: Detroit is where 20th century industrial America reached its zenith, and its decline is both prelude and prophecy.

The Sun Belt cities and the suburbs were supposed to be a triumph of the market's creative destruction: people choose where they live, and good places win over bad. But Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Orlando, once thought to prove Detroit unnecessary, have gone bust. “Disney World ain't what it used to be,” says Stephens. The gaping maw of the new American century that swallowed Detroit has an unrequited hunger. Watch Detropia and you've been warned. The film is beset by a foreboding sense that the status quo leaves no option but mass unrest. I can only hope that's not wishful thinking.

“No buffer between the rich and the poor? Only thing left is revolution,” says Stephens, a most reluctant revolutionary. “This is coming to you.”



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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?


Emergency manager: Detroit to halt debt
payments, reinvest $1.25 billion in city




Detroit Free Press
By MATT HELMS,
JOE GUILLEN AND
ALISA PRIDDLE
Friday, June 14, 2013


DETROIT — Detroit emergency manager Kevyn Orr on Friday laid out an extraordinary, complex and painful path back to solvency for the city of Detroit in a proposed plan to creditors.

It would spin off the city's water department, reduce city-provided health care for retirees and immediately stop debt payments and then use that money to keep the city operating while reinvesting $1.25 billion over the next decade to boost crucial public services like police and fire, step up blight removal and transform an antiquated, failing city government.

The impact of the document Orr released publicly and to creditors in a historic meeting Friday cannot be understated.

Orr and his team discussed a staggering amount of liabilities - as much as $20 billion - Friday as they met with as many as 150 creditors called together in a bid to win an out-of-court settlement of the city's financial disaster or, at least, a municipal bankruptcy proceeding in which most creditors agree to deals before a Chapter 9 petition is filed.

"Detroit's road to recovery begins today," Orr said. "Financial mismanagement, a shrinking population, a dwindling tax base and other factors over the last 45 years have brought Detroit to the brink of financial and operational ruin. We cannot repeat the mistakes of the past - the city, its region and the country deserve better.

"Our plan," he added, "is bold because aggressive action is required to get Detroit back on its feet and improve the quality of life for the people who call Detroit home."

The report confirms that creditors including retirees, bond holders and current city workers are likely to get fewer than 10 cents on the dollar for the city's unfunded liabilities - unsecured bonds and pension and health care benefits Detroit has no money to pay.

Orr's plan said:

  • He's proposing that the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department be spun off to an independent authority still owned by the city but managed by a board of representatives from the city and its suburbs, whose residents make up 80 percent of the system's customers. Under such an authority - already proposed by regional leaders - Detroit would end up making tens of millions a year in revenue from the department, money it cannot now make from the public utility.

  • Retired pensioners and current city workers would face significant cuts to current and future benefits. Orr said flatly that he does not believe Michigan's constitution protects vested retirement benefits from a city that cannot afford them, an issue likely to face a court battle from retirees who believe their pensions are shielded from cuts under state law. It has not been determined if the city will stop offering a defined benefit pension plan.

    Orr and advisers made it clear they believe there is no constitutional protection in situations like Detroit's, where there is no way the city could pay back its liabilities and no room to raise revenue to address the shortfall. The city is at or near the state-mandated limit, for one, on property taxes it can levy.

  • On health care, 99.6 percent of the fund is at risk to take major cuts. Orr's office is proposing a substitute program largely reliant on Obamacare and Medicare.

  • Detroit placed an immediate moratorium on all debt service payments on any liabilities not secured by a dedicated stream of revenues. Such payments are on unsecured creditors that include general obligation bonds, underfunded retiree health care and pensions to preserve cash to keep the city operating and initiate new investment in the city's dismal public services.

  • Orr proposes a $1.25 billion investment over the next decade to restore city services and fix city government. Of that money, $500 million would be spent on blight removal and the rest on fixing the police, fire and EMS services, upgrading the city's public lighting and upgrading the city administration's nearly ancient computer and information technology systems that are decades behind other cities.

Orr's proposal says legacy costs are eating up as much as 40 percent of the city's revenue when other cities have kept them to the 16-17 percent range - which is where Orr's team wants Detroit in the future. Otherwise, the city's operations are unsustainable.

Orr's team says it will treat all creditors within their respective classes equally in and out of court and won't play favorites.

"Today is a new day and we have presented a plan that outlines a comprehensive roadmap for ensuring basic services are delivered to our citizens while aligning our obligations with the reality the city confronts," Orr said. "My team and I hope Detroit's creditors and constituents recognize that comprehensive and shared sacrifice are required for a better, more sustainable future for Detroit and its citizens."


©2013 Detroit Free Press


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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?


Detroit files for biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history



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DETROIT -- The city of Detroit filed for Chapter 9 bankruptcy protection in federal court Thursday, laying the groundwork for a historic effort to bail out a city that is sinking under billions of dollars in debt and decades of mismanagement, population flight and loss of tax revenue.

The bankruptcy filing makes Detroit the largest city in U.S. history to do so.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...it-prepares-bankruptcy-filing-friday/2552819/


 
The government bailed out Wall Street, the Big 3, but Detroit cant get any help. The mayor needs to fly on his corporate jet to DC for a bailout.

Poor trade policies and discrimination have led to this, not mismanagement. Companies are now pre discriminating applicants by locating away from cities like Detroit, impacting the tax base.
 
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Whites in the suburbs are pissing their pants in joy because the Kevyn Orr, the happy slave, helped massa Snyder, destroy Detroit's credit rating.

This trash, who is from Baltimore, came in and invalidated hundreds of thousands of votes by negating the City Council AND the Mayor (though the Mayor is an outsider himself).

You watch as this all unfolds so predictably, and people still believe in this bullshit.

Most are not going to figure this out until they lose everything (and even then a lot still won't ever get it).
 
The suburbs push their druggies into the city looking for dope. Detroit has to pay for extra law enforcement from the fallout. Nobody wants to live next to a drug house so they move and depress housing prices and property taxes. If you use drugs, buy it in your area, dont bring it to the city.

Than you tack on companies not relocating due to pool of applicants in the area. Meanwhile, middle of nowhere city/state has one percent unemployment.
 
Everything You Need to Know
About Detroit's Bankruptcy​

Here's how the Motor City got here,
and where bankruptcy could take it



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After decades of decline, Detroit is broke.

On Thursday, the Motor City filed for the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history on its $18 billion of debt, and faces a future where only one thing is certain: lots of people are going to get much less money than they were promised.


Now, I don't like to say that something was ever inevitable, but Detroit's Chapter 9 bankruptcy sure looks that way. Since 1950, its population has retreated from 1.8 million to 700,000 today. And, as you can see in the chart below, via Nate Cohn of The New Republic, it's shrunk 26 percent in just the last decade. That's left a small tax base to pay for the pension promises of a more populous yesteryear.​


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But why has Detroit's decline been of the far more terminal sort than other post-industrial cities? It's easy to say it's all about the city tying itself to the crumbling auto industry and nothing else, but that's not right:

  • the Big Three have come back from the dead to boast healthy profits today, while Detroit is dying. The reality is the reverse.

Detroit is on life support now, not because it's too tied to the carmakers, but because it's not enough. As Alec MacGillis of The New Republic points out, the Big Three -- along with wealthy and working-class whites -- decamped for the suburbs decades ago.

Today, there are only two car factories left within Detroit's (vast) city limits. Gone are the solidly middle-class manufacturing jobs that had paved the city's rise. Indeed, Detroit had 296,000 such jobs back in 1950, and only 27,000 by 2011.

  • The rump city is mostly poor and African-American, but still has a huge geographical area to provide services to.

  • Too Big But Too Fail. Detroit itself is 139 squares miles -- as MacGillis notes, that's bigger than Boston, Manhattan, and San Francisco combined -- and could probably use some downsizing.

Bankruptcy is probably Detroit's best chance to put some kind of floor under its collapse. With rising pension payouts squeezing out services, Detroit will only become more unlivable -- unless it hits the fiscal reset button. But it's not clear whether it can. Detroit Emergency Financial Manager Kevyn Orr filed for Chapter 9 bankruptcy now, and not later as many supposed, because it would shield the city from retiree lawsuits. But those retirees have already challenged the city's right to declare bankruptcy, and won -- at least for now. The question is whether Detroit can legally shed its pension obligations. The Michigan Constitution forbids reducing public pension benefits, and bankruptcy would certainly do that. Indeed, $9.2 billion of Detroit's $18 billion debt is owed to city retirees -- with $3.5 billion of that from unfunded pension benefits, and $5.7 billion from unfunded healthcare benefits, as you can see below from the Detroit Free-Press.​



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Now, as Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post points out, Detroit wants to offload its healthcare obligations onto the federal government, but that would still leave billions of dollars of pension liabilities that would get gutted in bankruptcy.

Detroit's two largest unsecured creditors are the unfunded pensions of its city workers and its cops and firemen -- which would get stuck fighting bondholders for whatever financial scraps the city has left.

How many scraps are left? Well, last month Emergency Manager Orr offered these unsecured creditors just 10 cents on the dollar. Of course, in bankruptcy, some creditors could end up with more than that, and some with less -- that is, nothing. A good portion of these unsecured bonds are "unlimited-tax general obligation bonds," which are supposed to require the city to raise taxes as needed to pay back what it owes. In other words, they're supposed to be guaranteed. If they're not, they still have an argument that they should be senior to other unsecured creditors -- but then again, pensions were supposed to be guaranteed too. We might find out which of these guarantees was more meaningless.


The Great Recession didn't cause Detroit's problems, but it did give the city its final kick. Detroit had overpromised and underfunded its public benefits for decades, but had been able to paper that over. But the lost market gains and lost tax revenue from the bust meant they couldn't hide the holes in their obligations any longer. It's the same in cities and states across the country. As Josh Barro of Business Insider argues, some kind of federal insurance and regulation for these pensions could stop this cycle of retirees finding out they have far less than they'd been promised. Now, that would come at the cost of fewer workers getting these kind of promises to begin with, but that would be better than people planning their retirements around benefits that aren't coming.

It's a hard step to take, but Detroit needs to shake its fiscal past if it's going to have a future. That alone won't be nearly enough to turn things around, but it will give Detroit more than it's had in a half-century:

a chance.


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The Decline of Detroit in Five Maps​


Detroit was once the nation’s fourth most-populous city. Today, it became the largest American city to file for bankruptcy. The Motor City has been in decline for decades; its population peaked at 1.8 million in 1950 and declined to just 700,000 people in the last Census. Predictably, its economy faltered—especially over the last decade. The unemployment rate is over 18 percent; fewer than half of adult residents are employed. A shrinking tax base made the city’s debt unsustainable—forcing it into bankruptcy. The decline of Detroit is illustrated by two New York Times features documenting the 2010 Census and the 2006-2009 American Community Survey.


Population Decline. Over the last decade, Detroit's population fell by nearly 26 percent. Detroit's suburbs have lost residents too, but not nearly as many.​

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Abandoned Homes. It is not quite right to say that Detroit is empty. 700,000 people still live there. But at its peak, the city housed 1.8 million people, and thousands of homes are now abandoned. In some neighborhoods, half of all homes are vacant.​

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Poverty. Detroit's urban core is deeply impoverished. The median household income is just $26,000--the map below shows areas where households make less than $30,000 per year.​

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Low Housing Values. Home values are extraordinarily low. In some neighborhood, the median home is worth less than $40,000.​

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Race & Segregation. And no discussion of Detroit is complete without mention of race and segregation. In 1950, when Detroit's population was at its peak, the city was 82 percent white. After decades of white flight, that number is reversed: the city is now 82 percent black and 10 percent white. On the map below, Detroit's city limits are obvious—especially its northern boundary, along the infamous "Eight Mile Road."

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Re: black employment for july-am i reading this right?

I don't know how black people can take any number seriously that comes from whites.

I concur, especially if you have more reliable numbers. Do you ??? Please post !!!

 
Re: black employment for july-am i reading this right?

I concur, especially if you have more reliable numbers. Do you ??? Please post !!!


I have facts.

Detroit is in bankruptcy.

That is a fact that contradicts any so-called government proclaimed improvement in the economy.

Further, Michigan's pension liabilities are getting worse by the month.

There are Emergency Financial Managers in more and more cities in Michigan.

Detroit is the largest city to have attempted a bankruptcy filing in the nation. No bailout for Obama despite bailouts for all those whites.

Obama has overseen 4 straight years of a failing economy. How about that for a number?

And, it is going to get a lot worse.
 
Re: black employment for july-am i reading this right?

I have facts.

Detroit is in bankruptcy.

Fact, but only because you are relying upon White Numbers quoted in White Media? No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to sustain the premise as factual.



That is a fact that contradicts any so-called government proclaimed improvement in the economy.

Opinion. No numbers of your own to disprove that the national economy is improving.


Further, Michigan's pension liabilities are getting worse by the month.

Opinion, but probably true based on the "white numbers" in the "white media" reported in this thread. No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


There are Emergency Financial Managers in more and more cities in Michigan.

Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


Detroit is the largest city to have attempted a bankruptcy filing in the nation.

Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.


No bailout for Obama despite bailouts for all those whites.

Opinion. No "white facts" or "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to prove your opinion that other "white cities" have been bailed-out by this Administration.


Obama has overseen 4 straight years of a failing economy. How about that for a number?

Opinion, unless you are relying upon some unstated numbers put out by the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make this opinion, factual.


And, it is going to get a lot worse.

Opinion; appears to be based primarily upon "white people" and their followers (like you) who opposed the President, especially the party of the <s>Re</s><u>No</U>publicans.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

I have a list of white supremacist sources that almost NEVER have anything positive to say about black people...

National Geographic
Reuters
Time
Detroit News/Detroit Free Press
and of course

YAHOO!

I just hope they keep it up because it keeps the honkeys away from the city.

:yes: Looks like they're being more successful than you could have imagined. I understand the Black middle is abandoning Detroit, as well. Soon, you'll be like Detroit. Abandoned.

:lol:
 
Re: black employment for july-am i reading this right?

Fact, but only because you are relying upon White Numbers quoted in White Media? No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to sustain the premise as factual.





Opinion. No numbers of your own to disprove that the national economy is improving.




Opinion, but probably true based on the "white numbers" in the "white media" reported in this thread. No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.




Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.




Opinion, though probably true -- if you believe the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make your opinion, factual.




Opinion. No "white facts" or "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to prove your opinion that other "white cities" have been bailed-out by this Administration.




Opinion, unless you are relying upon some unstated numbers put out by the "white media." No "Independent Cruise Facts" presented to make this opinion, factual.




Opinion; appears to be based primarily upon "white people" and their followers (like you) who opposed the President, especially the party of the <s>Re</s><u>No</U>publicans.

Well, if you are only going to believe whites and "white media" (or attribute every fact I mention as if they originated it) then what is the point of this discussion?

You do know Detroit is not a white city? Maybe you didn't know that.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

:yes: Looks like they're being more successful than you could have imagined. I understand the Black middle is abandoning Detroit, as well. Soon, you'll be like Detroit. Abandoned.

:lol:

Believing your white and Jew masters I see.

Cheering on, what you think, is the abandonment of Detroit, a black city?

I'll remember that when I am enjoying myself on the river, looking over into Canada, with the cool breeze off the water, watching the many cultures and peoples enjoying themselves, while the music is playing, the luxury yachts are floating past, and the music is coming in from the summer concerts.

But, I'm glad you think that way. Believe all the lies you want from your white masters and Jew Gods. Nothing wrong with having more willfully uninformed, to keep them away from Detroit.

I think the city will do just fine without your types here (there are already too many white/Jew lovers, don't need any more and want to get rid of the ones we have ... so called black middle class). Get the hell out. Don't want you. Don't need you. Always running from place to place trying to leech off someone's else's hard work and success, instead of staying and building your own stuff.

Yes, get the hell out of Detroit and stay out!
 

Robert Reich points out the obvious realities about Detroit that have been true for at least 35 years; the fact that Detroit is surrounded by some of the most affluent communities in America. Giant pools of money that somehow have scrupulously avoided entering Detroit. Why? Has it been 100% about racism & the fact that the city’s leadership has been Black as some of you peeps have maintained for the last 35 years? You’re telling me that the whites surrounding Detroit are more racist than the whites surrounding Atlanta? You’re telling me that none of the massive stacks of money surrounding Detroit could cut a favorable deal with successive Black city administrations to invest in the city and multiply their capital even further. Well if this bankruptcy becomes official, those massive stacks of money will be able to come in and buy everything in Detroit @ 5 cents on-the-dollar and probably pay minimal taxes on these deals. What percentage of those stacks of money that are going to rush in @ 5 cents on-the-dollar now will represent Black capital interests??





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Detroit, and the Bankruptcy of America’s Social Contract

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by Robert Reich | July 20, 2013 |http://robertreich.org/post/55976062830

One way to view Detroit’s bankruptcy — the largest bankruptcy of any American city — is as a failure of political negotiations over how financial sacrifices should be divided among the city’s creditors, city workers, and municipal retirees — requiring a court to decide instead. It could also be seen as the inevitable culmination of decades of union agreements offering unaffordable pension and health benefits to city workers.

But there’s a more basic story here, and it’s being replicated across America: Americans are segregating by income more than ever before. Forty years ago, most cities (including Detroit) had a mixture of wealthy, middle-class, and poor residents. Now, each income group tends to lives separately, in its own city — with its own tax bases and philanthropies that support, at one extreme, excellent schools, resplendent parks, rapid-response security, efficient transportation, and other first-rate services; or, at the opposite extreme, terrible schools, dilapidated parks, high crime, and third-rate services.

The geo-political divide has become so palpable that being wealthy in America today means not having to come across anyone who isn’t.

<span style="background-color: #FFFF00"><b>Detroit is a devastatingly poor, mostly black, increasingly abandoned island in the midst of a sea of comparative affluence that’s mostly white. Its suburbs are among the richest in the nation. Oakland County, for example, is the fourth wealthiest county in the United States, of counties with a million or more residents. Greater Detroit — which includes the suburbs — is among the nation’s top five financial centers, the top four centers of high-technology employment, and the second-biggest source of engineering and architectural talent. Not everyone is wealthy, to be sure, but the median household in the region earns close to $50,000 a year, and unemployment is no higher than the nation’s average. The median household in Birmingham, Michigan, just across the border that delineates the city of Detroit, earned more than $94,000 last year; in nearby Bloomfield Hills — still within the Detroit metropolitan area — the median was more than $150,000. </b></span>

The median household income within the city of Detroit is around $26,000, and unemployment is staggeringly high. One out of 3 residents is in poverty; more than half of all children in the city are impoverished. Between 2000 and 2010, Detroit lost a quarter of its population as the middle-class and whites fled to the suburbs. That left it with depressed property values, abandoned neighborhoods, empty buildings, lousy schools, high crime, and a dramatically-shrinking tax base. More than half of its parks have closed in the last five years. Forty percent of its streetlights don’t work.

In other words, much in modern America depends on where you draw boundaries, and who’s inside and who’s outside. Who is included in the social contract? If “Detroit" is defined as the larger metropolitan area that includes its suburbs, “Detroit" has enough money to provide all its residents with adequate if not good public services, without falling into bankruptcy. Politically, it would come down to a question of whether the more affluent areas of this “Detroit" were willing to subsidize the poor inner-city through their tax dollars, and help it rebound. That’s an awkward question that the more affluent areas would probably rather not have to face.

<span style="background-color: #FFFF00"><b>In drawing the relevant boundary to include just the poor inner city, and requiring those within that boundary to take care of their compounded problems by themselves, the whiter and more affluent suburbs are off the hook. “Their" city isn’t in trouble. It’s that other one — called “Detroit."</b></span>

It’s roughly analogous to a Wall Street bank drawing a boundary around its bad assets, selling them off at a fire-sale price, and writing off the loss. Only here we’re dealing with human beings rather than financial capital. And the upcoming fire sale will likely result in even worse municipal services, lousier schools, and more crime for those left behind in the city of Detroit. In an era of widening inequality, this is how wealthier Americans are quietly writing off the poor.

 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Believing your white and Jew masters I see.

Hardly. Just not believing you either.


Cheering on, what you think, is the abandonment of Detroit, a black city?

Wrong again. My laughter is directed at you, only -- how you rant and rave but little understanding of how to help your beloved.

Listen, municipalities are my business. With all of Detroit's troubles, if managed correctly, I think you're going to find that Chapter 9 could be a blessing, in disguise. Study the possibilities, know where you've been, know how you've gotten here, and understand how to smartly re-tool your engines to be a shinning star in the not-too-distant future. And to you (most of all; because I think the professionals already understand this) don't cut off your nose, just to spite your face.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?


Robert Reich points out the obvious realities about Detroit that have been true for at least 35 years; the fact that Detroit is surrounded by some of the most affluent communities in America. Giant pools of money that somehow have scrupulously avoided entering Detroit. Why? Has it been 100% about racism & the fact that the city’s leadership has been Black as some of you peeps have maintained for the last 35 years?


Yep. It's as simple as that.

And, it is not 35 years... it is 40 years since Coleman Young and 46 years since the Black Revolution started the removal of white rule from Detroit.

It was like the end of apartheid, after the 1967 Civil Rebellion.

Whites had been committing acts of terror against the black population in Detroit for decades. The auto companies at the same time were building freeways all through Detroit to the suburbs. Black people were getting really upset with the violence being committed against them by the Detroit Police, and the segregation of so many areas of the city.

It all came to a head in July of 1967. It is amazing the long-term effects black people had in the hood, on the entire world, by just tearing shit up. It made possible for black people to take control of the entire city of Detroit.

Detroit WAS a city of immigrants, very segregated. Every ethnic group had their own neighborhood. But, after 1967, never has one group dominated Detroit like black people have over the past 40 years.

Whites absolutely HATED that.

And black people have held the city together all that time.

NO MORE RACE RIOTS!

But, the whites have been waging economic, financial, media-driven, social, and cultural war against Detroit (a representation of black power/a black stronghold) ever since.

Too bad black people outside Detroit didn't help us. They were too busy believing and siding with the white/Jew enemies.


You’re telling me that the whites surrounding Detroit are more racist than the whites surrounding Atlanta? You’re telling me that none of the massive stacks of money surrounding Detroit could cut a favorable deal with successive Black city administrations to invest in the city and multiply their capital even further. Well if this bankruptcy becomes official, those massive stacks of money will be able to come in and buy everything in Detroit @ 5 cents on-the-dollar and probably pay minimal taxes on these deals. What percentage of those stacks of money that are going to rush in @ 5 cents on-the-dollar now will represent Black capital interests??

I've lived in Atlanta but don't really know Atlanta.

It amazes me when people try to act like they are experts on Detroit and have never lived here. I've lived in the South, but there is no way I would comment on anything happening there. Because, I don't know the place.

And, don't believe that Jew devil Robert Reich. He is giving the perspective of the white/Jew devils. Would you expect a racist to say anything nice about black people? Jews are experts at the backhanded compliment when it comes to black people to make the naive believe they are friends. Living in Detroit, you have to be sharper than that.

Hardly. Just not believing you either.




Wrong again. My laughter is directed at you, only -- how you rant and rave but little understanding of how to help your beloved.

Listen, municipalities are my business. With all of Detroit's troubles, if managed correctly, I think you're going to find that Chapter 9 could be a blessing, in disguise. Study the possibilities, know where you've been, know how you've gotten here, and understand how to smartly re-tool your engines to be a shinning star in the not-too-distant future. And to you (most of all; because I think the professionals already understand this) don't cut off your nose, just to spite your face.

You just don't get it, because you don't know what it's like to have black men in charge of everything where you live.

The professionals? Who the hell are they... whites and Jews? Aren't they the ones who have been trying to tear Detroit down for 40 years.

Black people have repeatedly asked for help. And what did they get? These professionals taking over our schools, Water Department, removing our black leadership in the City Council and Mayor's office.

You know nothing about Detroit but keep running your mouth like your UNINFORMED opinion carries any weight.

Before the white Governor came in with his house slave, Detroit had black people as Mayor, City Council President, Chief Judge of District AND Circuit Courts, Chief of Police, Executive Fire Commissioner... black man as head of the schools and so much more.

Whites hated it.

You and that house slave working for the white Governor would probably get along well. Kevyn Orr is an outsider black man helping the whites and is despised in Detroit (once again outsider black man helping whites tear down the black leadership in Detroit). Orr is so educated, so professional, because the whites/jews said so, not the people who actually vote, live, and pay taxes in Detroit.

That's okay. Detroit is resilient and this is just another trial of the black leadership. With power comes responsibility. Black people in Detroit have shown they will die to keep the city, so I am not worried.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Hardly. Just not believing you either.




Wrong again. My laughter is directed at you, only -- how you rant and rave but little understanding of how to help your beloved.

Listen, municipalities are my business. With all of Detroit's troubles, if managed correctly, I think you're going to find that Chapter 9 could be a blessing, in disguise. Study the possibilities, know where you've been, know how you've gotten here, and understand how to smartly re-tool your engines to be a shinning star in the not-too-distant future. And to you (most of all; because I think the professionals already understand this) don't cut off your nose, just to spite your face.



You just don't get it, because you don't know what it's like to have black men in charge of everything where you live.

The professionals? Who the hell are they... whites and Jews? Aren't they the ones who have been trying to tear Detroit down for 40 years.

Black people have repeatedly asked for help. And what did they get? These professionals taking over our schools, Water Department, removing our black leadership in the City Council and Mayor's office.

You know nothing about Detroit but keep running your mouth like your UNINFORMED opinion carries any weight.

Before the white Governor came in with his house slave, Detroit had black people as Mayor, City Council President, Chief Judge of District AND Circuit Courts, Chief of Police, Executive Fire Commissioner... black man as head of the schools and so much more.

Whites hated it.

You and that house slave working for the white Governor would probably get along well. Kevyn Orr is an outsider black man helping the whites and is despised in Detroit (once again outsider black man helping whites tear down the black leadership in Detroit). Orr is so educated, so professional, because the whites/jews said so, not the people who actually vote, live, and pay taxes in Detroit.

That's okay. Detroit is resilient and this is just another trial of the black leadership. With power comes responsibility. Black people in Detroit have shown they will die to keep the city, so I am not worried.

You're right Cruise, I don't get it.

I don't get why or how someone never looks introspectively; its ALWAYS someone else's fault. ALWAYS. :smh:

Without question, many, if not most, of the problems attributed to white people are true. They don't get a pass and if you say one more gotdamn time that I'm giving them one, you're a blind, dishonest and hopeless liar.

AND, neither do some of "US" who presided over the great slide into doom over the last 40 years who failed to chart a course to avoid the obvious collision ahead should get a pass either.

NOW that blame as been assigned (because you can find blame all day long, but it not going to change shit for the suffering) . . . NOW that the city has filed bankruptcy (assuming it doesn't get dismissed) . . . NOW is the time to take advantage of the restructuring to come up with a plan to put your Great City (and I do believe it is great) on a path to a great future. A lot of good people are going to suffer a lot in this fiasco; don't make them suffer in vain
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Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

You're right Cruise, I don't get it.

I don't get why or how someone never looks introspectively; its ALWAYS someone else's fault. ALWAYS. :smh:

Without question, many, if not most, of the problems attributed to white people are true. They don't get a pass and if you say one more gotdamn time that I'm giving them one, you're a blind, dishonest and hopeless liar.

AND, neither do some of "US" who presided over the great slide into doom over the last 40 years who failed to chart a course to avoid the obvious collision ahead should get a pass either.

NOW that blame as been assigned (because you can find blame all day long, but it not going to change shit for the suffering) . . . NOW that the city has filed bankruptcy (assuming it doesn't get dismissed) . . . NOW is the time to take advantage of the restructuring to come up with a plan to put your Great City (and I do believe it is great) on a path to a great future. A lot of good people are going to suffer a lot in this fiasco; don't make them suffer in vain
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The only black people that deserve blame in Detroit, are the coontastic scumbags who helped whites destroy viable neighborhoods and stable communities.

The last thing Detroiters need is another voice trying to blame them for shit they had no control over.

I don't like false equivalency arguments. It reminds me of the Nazis after the war.

Everybody was shooting & killing, so both sides deserve blame.

It was a dumb rationalization then and it is dumb now.

Other than happy house slaves (see Dennis Archer), black people deserve ZERO blame for Detroit, because whites would never leave us alone.

Black people did not control the banks.
Black people did not control the corporations.
Black people did not make the laws.
Black people did not control what the kids were taught.

It was all the fault of whites and their race war against black people.

One thing Detroit has shown me, is that total political control means nothing if you don't control the banks and the economics.

GM has been in Detroit all these years, yet there have been exactly ZERO black people as head of GM and there is ZERO chance any black person will EVER be CEO of GM. And this is in a city with an 80% black population.

That is entirely the fault of whites depriving and denying black people any opportunities to control the money.

Black people have no reason to see Detroit suffer because it is their home. To believe anything else is white supremacy bullshit.

This bankruptcy distraction is just another stage of the race war by white boy Rick (people from Detroit would get this reference) Snyder, the Governor.

Detroit has and is attracting businesses from the suburbs, cultural events (Super Bowl & All-Star Game), Hollywood movies and TV, major investment projects, and research dollars.

Because the white suburbs have proven to be a dead end, they want Detroit back and will use their propaganda pieces (the National media), to try and circumvent the political leadership to return to the racial violence and terror whites waged against black people before they were thrown out of the city, starting in 1967.

We are in a fight. If someone is going to take sides against Detroiters, they are the enemy. That has always been the mindset.

Detroiters do not like white sympathizers... Uncle Toms and Aunt Jemimas.

Black people are winning. We just need to keep it up a little while longer until the whites collapse out in their suburban wastelands. I can tell they are getting desperate.

There is only 1 white neighborhood left in Detroit. Black people need to do their best to make sure this white scum cannot spread their disease through the city again.
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Okay Cruise, we'll see whether those retired pensioners; those who would soon be pensioners; and current city workers who face significant cuts to current and future benefits including, but not limited to, health insurance, etc., -- share your view. ;)
 
Re: End of Kwame Kilpatrick?

Okay Cruise, we'll see whether those retired pensioners; those who would soon be pensioners; and current city workers who face significant cuts to current and future benefits including, but not limited to, health insurance, etc., -- share your view. ;)


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