Debate: The only difference between Amber Rose, Kim K & Beyonce is that one can sing?

[playahaitian]

Amber Rose Swats Back At The “Bey-Hive,” Clarifies Statements On Beyoncé


(AllHipHop News) When you attack the Queen Bey make sure you come prepared because the “Bey-Hive” will be coming for you.

Amber Rose learned that yesterday and quickly swatted back clarifying statements that she made about Beyoncé after she caught the ire of the Bey Hive on all platforms of social media.

This week Amber Rose was down at SXSW continuing her push to stop “slut shaming”and celebrating as she revealed her own 3D Zoobe character.

Amber enters her Austin, TX SXSW Event

But, after Amber berated society’s embrace for Beyoncé and equated her public perception to that of Kim Kardashian, the Bey-Hive broke loose.

“It’s bullshit, and this is the thing: They come at me and Kim so hard because I was a stripper and she had a sex tape,” Rose told the Daily Beast.

Beyoncé’s fans seemed to have to most problem with the following quote that brought up Beyoncé’s talent and ability to sing.:

“So if we could sing, it would be OK if we were on stage half-naked. We all love Beyoncé, but she’s on stage half-naked and twerking all the time, yet people say, oh, she has talent so she’s able to do that. We don’t have the talent that Beyoncé has, so we get criticized as former sex workers, but at the end of the day we’re just women—we’re all women—and we should all embrace each other. No one is greater. We’re all the same. So, to criticize us as incapable of being smart businesswomen because Kim has a reality show and I’m a socialite and we don’t sing is stupid. We’ve both been in movies, and we take our acting, business ventures, and everything else very seriously.”

Followed by continued harassment from the Bey-Hive, Amber responded via social media.

Wait y'all not about to Muva Lol When I'm apart of the Beyhive! TF? I mentioned her cuz she is the most talented and beautiful…..

— Amber Rose (@DaRealAmberRose) March 15, 2016



Was just speaking on Classism. Look it up maybe it applies to ur life. Don't take my words out of context I cried twice when I met her Lol

— Amber Rose (@DaRealAmberRose) March 15, 2016



As of print, there are still members of the Bey Hive attacking Amber despite her Tweets to clarify her statements in the Daily Beast.

This is not the first time the names of this trio of ladies have swirled around together, Beyonce and Kim K have a history that’s gotten the media’s attention many times before.

No response from Kim K yet, just this Tweet this morning (March 16th):

Good morning pic.twitter.com/v0r3wH9JDA

— Kim Kardashian West (@KimKardashian) March 16, 2016

 

[playahaitian]

Amber REALLY needs to shut up now.

 

[DJCandle]

I always knew there was something wrong with this bitch. She's just trying too hard to keep her light shining and stay relevant. Just strip down and know your role.

YOU HAVE NO TALENT.

 

[BDR]

I always knew there was something wrong with this bitch. She's just trying too hard to keep her light shining and stay relevant. Just strip down and know your role.

YOU HAVE NO TALENT.

Blame Kanye

 

[Coldchi]

im sure she will show up on some talk show and cry some more

 

[Amajorfucup]

Amber REALLY needs to shut up now.

I ain't know you was part of the beyhive too PH. Y'all don't fuck around when it come to the queen!!

 

[Nzinga]

The last kicks of a dying horse.

 

[TimRock]

Amber REALLY needs to shut up now.

She will, when people stop giving her a platform to speak on, and others stop sharing her comments on social media. People keep replying to her antics and she won't go away. If you ignore it, it will go away.

 

[mk23666]

She aint half wrong tho. Whores and sluts just want their credit for making dressing, dancing and acting like them (in some cases) mainstream. What once was shameful is simply the norm and we have them to thank. *slow claps*

 

[Amajorfucup]

She aint half wrong tho. Whores and sluts just want their credit for making dressing, dancing and acting like them (in some cases) mainstream. What once was shameful is simply the norm and we have them to thank. *slow claps*

Indeed. She ain't half wrong. She all the way wrong.

You can't marginalize yourself by literally being known as an ex stripper and girlfriend, and monetize that by playing to the worst imagery of both. Then get pissed when you are held to those standards you set.

If your talent is literally posing nude, and partying you can't then reject that perception and attempt to equate yourself with someone known for something entirely different.

She essentially wants to be a ho without being called one. And it just doesn't work like that. She calls it slut shaming but the reality is she is shaming "us" for accepting her for who she told us she was.

Bitch yous a ho. You famous for who you fuck and what you (dont) wear. You can cash out and be glad you live in a society that rewards that behavior or you can bitch and moan about being objectified as a women. But you cannot do both.

 

["THE MAN"]

I hate these new hoes. They wanna walk around naked all day and jump from dick to dick but don't you dare call them a hoe. There is a time and a place for everything. And then she said Classism. My God!

 

[mk23666]

Indeed. She ain't half wrong. She all the way wrong.

You can't marginalize yourself by literally being known as an ex stripper and girlfriend, and monetize that by playing to the worst imagery of both. Then get pissed when you are held to those standards you set.

If your talent is literally posing nude, and partying you can't then reject that perception and attempt to equate yourself with someone known for something entirely different.

She essentially wants to be a ho without being called one. And it just doesn't work like that. She calls it slut shaming but the reality is she is shaming "us" for accepting her for who she told us she was.

Bitch yous a ho. You famous for who you fuck and what you (dont) wear. You can cash out and be glad you live in a society that rewards that behavior or you can bitch and moan about being objectified as a women. But you cannot do both.

Funny thing is I agree with you, but to ignore the truth that many (most) R&B female singers AND female rappers are basically "lite" versions of all that Amber Rose holds dear is stretching reality a bit. Her premise is correct, but it is being over looked because of her person and who she mentioned in her diatribe. If it had been an anonymous posting about the topic, without names being dropped it would have been better received. Even from the Beyonce crowd who now attack Amber.

Everything is different when one's favorite cow/bull isn't being sacrificed on the altar.

 

[Esther]

Amber is literally trying to pull beyonce down to her level. Fuck her and her slut walk.

 

[playahaitian]

I ain't know you was part of the beyhive too PH. Y'all don't fuck around when it come to the queen!!

you already KNOW!!!

she spelling my screen name in morse code

 

[Pworld297]

She was on His and Hers the other day looking fine as fuck, I'm sorry but I luv that bitch.

 

[DJCandle]

Funny thing is I agree with you, but to ignore the truth that many (most) R&B female singers AND female rappers are basically "lite" versions of all that Amber Rose holds dear is stretching reality a bit. Her premise is correct, but it is being over looked because of her person and who she mentioned in her diatribe. If it had been an anonymous posting about the topic, without names being dropped it would have been better received. Even from the Beyonce crowd who now attack Amber.

Everything is different when one's favorite cow/bull isn't being sacrificed on the altar.

?? Most female R&B singers and female rappers have talent. Be it singing or rapping, that's the separating factor. Perfecting their crafts for years before they were ever on anyone's radar.

What does Amber have to offer outside taking her clothes off?

If we're equating the two, can I grab my favourite Instagram model and equate her "talent" to that of an Alicia Keys or a Mary J Blige? Are they then equal?

 

[geechiedan]

Indeed. She ain't half wrong. She all the way wrong.

You can't marginalize yourself by literally being known as an ex stripper and girlfriend, and monetize that by playing to the worst imagery of both. Then get pissed when you are held to those standards you set.

If your talent is literally posing nude, and partying you can't then reject that perception and attempt to equate yourself with someone known for something entirely different.

She essentially wants to be a ho without being called one. And it just doesn't work like that. She calls it slut shaming but the reality is she is shaming "us" for accepting her for who she told us she was.

Bitch yous a ho. You famous for who you fuck and what you (dont) wear. You can cash out and be glad you live in a society that rewards that behavior or you can bitch and moan about being objectified as a women. But you cannot do both.

this perfectly encapsulates the attitude in this thread, board and society... you WANT women like amber rose to do the shit she does...which is be nekkid..we all lust after and many PAY (whether its money or attention) her for doing that. BUT (and this is a huge kim karsdashian sized BUT) you still want to negative judge her for doing the shit you WANT her to do...

Count made the quote of the DECADE long ago...

generally speaking, it makes sense to judge someone negatively for engaging in activities that you don't like. it doesn't make sense to judge someone negatively for engaging in activities that you do like.

All Amber Rose is saying is that she gives you what you want and you STILL complain.

this is what YOU want..so what the problem?? She can't have an opinion?

 

[fonzerrillii]

I learned this shit quirkily... You don't dare say shit about Beyoncé.

 

[USUKAZ]

Wait...Beyonce can sing?!?!

 

[pookie]

im sure she will show up on some talk show and cry some more

She was on His and Hers the other day looking fine as fuck, I'm sorry but I luv that bitch.

She was on FirstTake and i was wondering why? I watched about a minute then turned the channel

 

[knightmelodic]

Rihana would have been a better comparison. She has no talent except for sex appeal, just like amber rose. kardasian, I just don't know what the fascination with this chick and her plastic family is. Probably a sign that the apocalypse is upon us.

 

[yasky777]

Sluts have one role. Meet my slutty desires and go away. Don't talk don't text don't celebrate just be my slut and be happy. No trophies in this game but me,I am the trophy.

 

[geechiedan]

Sluts have one role. Meet my slutty desires and go away. Don't talk don't text don't celebrate just be my slut and be happy. No trophies in this game.

here's the problem...she was doing just that but you insist on making her feel bad about doing it... if cats would just SHUT UP and let her do what she does best there wouldn't be issues like these...

 

[Lower9Nupe]

Amber Rose Swats Back At The “Bey-Hive,” Clarifies Statements On Beyoncé


(AllHipHop News) When you attack the Queen Bey make sure you come prepared because the “Bey-Hive” will be coming for you.

Amber Rose learned that yesterday and quickly swatted back clarifying statements that she made about Beyoncé after she caught the ire of the Bey Hive on all platforms of social media.

This week Amber Rose was down at SXSW continuing her push to stop “slut shaming”and celebrating as she revealed her own 3D Zoobe character.

Amber enters her Austin, TX SXSW Event

But, after Amber berated society’s embrace for Beyoncé and equated her public perception to that of Kim Kardashian, the Bey-Hive broke loose.

“It’s bullshit, and this is the thing: They come at me and Kim so hard because I was a stripper and she had a sex tape,” Rose told the Daily Beast.

Beyoncé’s fans seemed to have to most problem with the following quote that brought up Beyoncé’s talent and ability to sing.:

“So if we could sing, it would be OK if we were on stage half-naked. We all love Beyoncé, but she’s on stage half-naked and twerking all the time, yet people say, oh, she has talent so she’s able to do that. We don’t have the talent that Beyoncé has, so we get criticized as former sex workers, but at the end of the day we’re just women—we’re all women—and we should all embrace each other. No one is greater. We’re all the same. So, to criticize us as incapable of being smart businesswomen because Kim has a reality show and I’m a socialite and we don’t sing is stupid. We’ve both been in movies, and we take our acting, business ventures, and everything else very seriously.”

Followed by continued harassment from the Bey-Hive, Amber responded via social media.

Wait y'all not about to Muva Lol When I'm apart of the Beyhive! TF? I mentioned her cuz she is the most talented and beautiful…..

— Amber Rose (@DaRealAmberRose) March 15, 2016



Was just speaking on Classism. Look it up maybe it applies to ur life. Don't take my words out of context I cried twice when I met her Lol

— Amber Rose (@DaRealAmberRose) March 15, 2016



As of print, there are still members of the Bey Hive attacking Amber despite her Tweets to clarify her statements in the Daily Beast.

This is not the first time the names of this trio of ladies have swirled around together, Beyonce and Kim K have a history that’s gotten the media’s attention many times before.

No response from Kim K yet, just this Tweet this morning (March 16th):

Good morning pic.twitter.com/v0r3wH9JDA

— Kim Kardashian West (@KimKardashian) March 16, 2016

Convenient logic. I would say you'd be equal if I could find one picture of Beyonce showing her tits and pussy and or fuckin' a dude on film. Until then shut the fuck up. You sound stupid.

 

[Amajorfucup]

this perfectly encapsulates the attitude in this thread, board and society... you WANT women like amber rose to do the shit she does...which is be nekkid..we all lust after and many PAY (whether its money or attention) her for doing that. BUT (and this is a huge kim karsdashian sized BUT) you still want to negative judge her for doing the shit you WANT her to do...

Count made the quote of the DECADE long ago...



All Amber Rose is saying is that she gives you what you want and you STILL complain.


this is what YOU want..so what the problem?? She can't have an opinion?

Either you have a problem comprehending.. or you're illiterate.

This isnt about a conflict of liking her and being critical of what she does. That isnt the issue.

The issue is her equating what she does to what another person does and applying other peoples perceptions to both. While expecting those perceptions to be equal, despite her having zero in common with that other entity. Dont work like that.

Further, your misconceived bullshit fails to take into account that the majority of those taking issue (certainly they beyhive) arent ones who welcome her nudity for purposes of sexual arousal or attraction... So your entire premise of "well if you like it you cant judge it" is utter bullshit and shows a lack of understanding of whats going on here on several levels.

 

[Amajorfucup]

Funny thing is I agree with you, but to ignore the truth that many (most) R&B female singers AND female rappers are basically "lite" versions of all that Amber Rose holds dear is stretching reality a bit. Her premise is correct, but it is being over looked because of her person and who she mentioned in her diatribe. If it had been an anonymous posting about the topic, without names being dropped it would have been better received. Even from the Beyonce crowd who now attack Amber.

Everything is different when one's favorite cow/bull isn't being sacrificed on the altar.

Nah bro. Her premise isnt correct. It become invalid the moment she verbalized an expectation to be viewed and critiqued in the same light as someone she has NOTHING in common with.

Its the epitome of a false equivalency argument.

Again, she is literally famous for who she is fucking and what she wears. Thats it. And she embraced that until she was tired of embracing what all comes with it... And now she wants to change the rules of the agreement after cashing the check. Dont work like that. When it was a come up, she welcomed it and labeled those criticizing from the cheap seats as "haters".. Now that she is financially comfortable, she wants to renegotiate terms and challenge perceptions.

 

[therealjondoe]

I hate these new hoes. They wanna walk around naked all day and jump from dick to dick but don't you dare call them a hoe. There is a time and a place for everything. And then she said Classism. My God!

Lol @ classism
More like one has class and the other 2 have none.

 

[geechiedan]

Either you have a problem comprehending.. or you're illiterate.

This isnt about a conflict of liking her and being critical of what she does. That isnt the issue.

The issue is her equating what she does to what another person does and applying other peoples perceptions to both. While expecting those perceptions to be equal. Dont work like that.

Further, your misconceived bullshit fails to take into account that the majority of those taking issue (certainly they beyhive) arent ones who welcome her nudity for purposes of sexual arousal or attraction... So your entire premise of "well if you like it you cant judge it" is utter bullshit and shows a lack of understanding of whats going on here on several levels.

regardless of the degree to which its done beyonce sells sex appeal and sex period..

what the fuck does looking like this have to do with black empowerment or the black panthers??

Bey more often that not sell sex and sex appeal along with the songs going so far as to coin a phrase about it: "I don't think you ready for this jelly
Cause my body too bootylicious for ya babe"
For both of them sex and sex appeal is a major factor in their presentation.

And its I'm not talking about the beyhive cuz her fans are her fans I'm talking the board because you pretty much agree with them and the while still lusting after her for doing what you want.

 

[mk23666]

?? Most female R&B singers and female rappers have talent. Be it singing or rapping, that's the separating factor. Perfecting their crafts for years before they were ever on anyone's radar.

What does Amber have to offer outside taking her clothes off?

If we're equating the two, can I grab my favourite Instagram model and equate her "talent" to that of an Alicia Keys or a Mary J Blige? Are they then equal?

I'm confused because my post should have been succinct enough for most to follow. Talent doesn't excuse the behavior. As a matter of fact the behavior seems to lessen the talent.

You can have your comparison if you do this ... turn down the volume when your favorite female singer/rapper is on stage and let the Instagram model lip sync the song that "talent" is singing. Then you should see the point.

 

[slam]

i wish she would have compared her shit to RiRi...lol

she knew better...RiRi would have got in that ass...

 

[geechiedan]

Nah bro. Her premise isnt correct. It become invalid the moment she verbalized an expectation to be viewed and critiqued in the same light as someone she has NOTHING in common with.

Its the epitome of a false equivalency argument.

Again, she is literally famous for who she is fucking and what she wears. Thats it. And she embraced that until she was tired of embracing what all comes with it... And now she wants to change the rules of the agreement after cashing the check. Dont work like that. When it was a come up, she welcomed it and labeled those criticizing from the cheap seats as "haters".. Now that she is financially comfortable, she wants to renegotiate terms and challenge perceptions.

what fucking agreement?? what fucking social contract are you talking about?? she takes her clothes off and you give her money thats the agreement...she doesn't have to take your shit on top of it. If you want to perceive her as a certain thing fine thats whats going on in your head...but she and women like her don't have to take bullshit on top of it. She shakes her ass..you like it all you have to do is shut up and enjoy the view...if you want to fuck her then put a tip in the jar, bust a nut on her fat ass and keep it moving.. all this armchair analyzing over who or what she is or perceived as is pointless bullshit.

 

[yasky777]

But sluts aren't celebrated

 

[mk23666]

Nah bro. Her premise isnt correct. It become invalid the moment she verbalized an expectation to be viewed and critiqued in the same light as someone she has NOTHING in common with.

Its the epitome of a false equivalency argument.

Again, she is literally famous for who she is fucking and what she wears. Thats it. And she embraced that until she was tired of embracing what all comes with it... And now she wants to change the rules of the agreement after cashing the check. Dont work like that. When it was a come up, she welcomed it and labeled those criticizing from the cheap seats as "haters".. Now that she is financially comfortable, she wants to renegotiate terms and challenge perceptions.

You're simply just missing my point altogether, and it's because you are even framing it from my reference point. You argue from the micro, I'm arguing from the macro.

Peace

 

[mk23666]

But sluts aren't celebrated

One could argue that the porn industry is a celebration of sluts. One could argue that "slutty" social media models are "celebrated" by all the attention they get. One could argue that boards like these are in a way the celebration of sluts of various levels and definitions.

 

[sumofyallniggasisbitches2]

Indeed. She ain't half wrong. She all the way wrong.

You can't marginalize yourself by literally being known as an ex stripper and girlfriend, and monetize that by playing to the worst imagery of both. Then get pissed when you are held to those standards you set.

If your talent is literally posing nude, and partying you can't then reject that perception and attempt to equate yourself with someone known for something entirely different.

She essentially wants to be a ho without being called one. And it just doesn't work like that. She calls it slut shaming but the reality is she is shaming "us" for accepting her for who she told us she was.

Bitch yous a ho. You famous for who you fuck and what you (dont) wear. You can cash out and be glad you live in a society that rewards that behavior or you can bitch and moan about being objectified as a women. But you cannot do both.

C/S every fucking thing you said especially that last paragraph..

And another thought, this delusional bitch called herself a socialite