Dating in 08' - Ladies, I need some feedback.....

ATLKingpin

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Ladies, help me understand...I have been off the market for about 7 years, and damn the dating game has changed! I have three questions that, if answered, would help me regain my "clarity" on sistas :yes:

Why do all of the 100% of ugly women choose me, but 0% of attractive women?

I hang out with a crew of extremely good looking guys (no homo), and we always having women coming up to us, but to the letter, ALL of the ugly ones approach me. If I were unattractive, shouldn't I be unattractive to all women? What gives?

Okay, just to kill all of the standard responses, I look pretty damn good, got hella game, and no odors or diseases, decent job, etc., etc. My only flaw is my age...I am around forty, but everybody thinks I am thirty (which is still old to the twenty somethings we usually are around). All of my friends say Bhudda from "I Love New York" is my long lost twin, same exact looks, actions, attitude, etc. Just like the show, all women are afraid of me....well all except the worst looking women. And to kill the other responses, the ugly women go right past my boys to get to me, hell, my boys actually like ugly women and try to hit on them! So it's not that they are choosing the "easiest" guy to get at! Case in point, my boy looks like Reggie Bush, so women fall out over dude. Big ole ugly chick comes up and starts talking to him, rubbing his leg, etc., etc. It looked she was going to screw him right there, he was with it, and then she looks over at me and says "You are the one I want to f*ck" :angry: He starts dying laughing, and I am pissed all the way off, cause we both start thinking the same thing: WHY ME?

Why do women fall all over themselves for me, but never call back?

Regardless of how bad question #1 sounds, when I put in work, I always get the woman I want...well, kind of. They always flip for me the night I meet them, but never call back. What gives?

Okay, I did get from one female that it is a lust thing with me. Women always want to touch/rub/lick some part of my body, but then say nothing. Again, to kill the standard responses, it's all there; in other words, my sex game is proper, proper package, all that...If I hit, the female always wants to kick it and cuts off all the other guys :yes: Case in point, I meet this beautiful female at the club and we exchange numbers. After we exchange numbers, I start to walk off. She runs up, stops me, and whispers in my ear "you can stop getting numbers now, I am the best thing in here, so this is the only number you need". :yes: After all that, the chick never called me back! :angry: WTF?

Final question: Why are Black women so afraid of a good thing?

A lot of women I meet now are just plain afraid of a good thing. My biggest issue is one gigantic ego (that's the sole reason for this thread), but I keep it in check if I meet a woman I have interest in. I am tired of women all afraid of me coming at me with ish like "I know you have a girlfriend, wife, etc.", "I know you are a player", then f*cking my boys and dumping them.....

Case in point, met this young lady when I first started going back out and I don't know if it was the liquor or what, but I decided to let her "have it", spit fire game at her, swept her off her feet on the dance floor, etc., etc. :yes: So I decided to go for the "death stroke"; slid the package up her thigh and kissed her neck....the female looks at me, says, "You're a dream" and then.....faints :angry: So I have to pull her off the dance floor, get some water, etc., etc. When she gets it back together, she's like, I can't handle this:angry: WTF?
 
Ladies, help me understand...I have been off the market for about 7 years, and damn the dating game has changed! I have three questions that, if answered, would help me regain my "clarity" on sistas :yes:

Why do all of the 100% of ugly women choose me, but 0% of attractive women?

I hang out with a crew of extremely good looking guys (no homo), and we always having women coming up to us, but to the letter, ALL of the ugly ones approach me. If I were unattractive, shouldn't I be unattractive to all women? What gives?

Okay, just to kill all of the standard responses, I look pretty damn good, got hella game, and no odors or diseases, decent job, etc., etc. My only flaw is my age...I am around forty, but everybody thinks I am thirty (which is still old to the twenty somethings we usually are around). All of my friends say Bhudda from "I Love New York" is my long lost twin, same exact looks, actions, attitude, etc. Just like the show, all women are afraid of me....well all except the worst looking women. And to kill the other responses, the ugly women go right past my boys to get to me, hell, my boys actually like ugly women and try to hit on them! So it's not that they are choosing the "easiest" guy to get at! Case in point, my boy looks like Reggie Bush, so women fall out over dude. Big ole ugly chick comes up and starts talking to him, rubbing his leg, etc., etc. It looked she was going to screw him right there, he was with it, and then she looks over at me and says "You are the one I want to f*ck" :angry: He starts dying laughing, and I am pissed all the way off, cause we both start thinking the same thing: WHY ME?

Why do women fall all over themselves for me, but never call back?

Regardless of how bad question #1 sounds, when I put in work, I always get the woman I want...well, kind of. They always flip for me the night I meet them, but never call back. What gives?

Okay, I did get from one female that it is a lust thing with me. Women always want to touch/rub/lick some part of my body, but then say nothing. Again, to kill the standard responses, it's all there; in other words, my sex game is proper, proper package, all that...If I hit, the female always wants to kick it and cuts off all the other guys :yes: Case in point, I meet this beautiful female at the club and we exchange numbers. After we exchange numbers, I start to walk off. She runs up, stops me, and whispers in my ear "you can stop getting numbers now, I am the best thing in here, so this is the only number you need". :yes: After all that, the chick never called me back! :angry: WTF?

Final question: Why are Black women so afraid of a good thing?

A lot of women I meet now are just plain afraid of a good thing. My biggest issue is one gigantic ego (that's the sole reason for this thread), but I keep it in check if I meet a woman I have interest in. I am tired of women all afraid of me coming at me with ish like "I know you have a girlfriend, wife, etc.", "I know you are a player", then f*cking my boys and dumping them.....

Case in point, met this young lady when I first started going back out and I don't know if it was the liquor or what, but I decided to let her "have it", spit fire game at her, swept her off her feet on the dance floor, etc., etc. :yes: So I decided to go for the "death stroke"; slid the package up her thigh and kissed her neck....the female looks at me, says, "You're a dream" and then.....faints :angry: So I have to pull her off the dance floor, get some water, etc., etc. When she gets it back together, she's like, I can't handle this:angry: WTF?

If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+. Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

Just an analogy, but really: do some of the manwork, particularly in the beginning. If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.
 
If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+. Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

Just an analogy, but really: do some of the manwork, particularly in the beginning. If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.

Co-Sign!
 
If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+. Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

Just an analogy, but really: do some of the manwork, particularly in the beginning. If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.


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You deaded de man in his own thread......
 
First of all I think they use Condoleeza in these parts but I'll hit you with both:

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Secondly...

If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+. Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

Just an analogy, but really: do some of the manwork, particularly in the beginning. If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.

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If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+. Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

Just an analogy, but really: do some of the manwork, particularly in the beginning. If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.

:lol: JOfromthaNO, I am not the best looking out of my crew, but probably the most conceited...that could have something to do with it, and dang the dudes in my crew getting sweated DO have manicured hands...:lol:

:lol:Femme, that is what I am saying, I am in the A, I shouldn't have to work at all :lol:

:lol: ShadHO and Pussy, being in the A has gotten me used to hatin azz bitches like you two (comin into posts that clearly ask for "ladies"), but your type always seems to stay out of reach of my manicured hands....:lol:

Man, it is all good, you guys gave me a good laugh today...thanks!:lol:
 
:lol: JOfromthaNO, I am not the best looking out of my crew, but probably the most conceited...that could have something to do with it, and dang the dudes in my crew getting sweated DO have manicured hands...:lol:

:lol:Femme, that is what I am saying, I am in the A, I shouldn't have to work at all :lol:

:lol: ShadHO and Pussy, being in the A has gotten me used to hatin azz bitches like you two (comin into posts that clearly ask for "ladies"), but your type always seems to stay out of reach of my manicured hands....:lol:

Man, it is all good, you guys gave me a good laugh today...thanks!:lol:


Man, come on. You call that clowning me? :hmm:

I was fucking with you about getting deaded. If you can't take it, you can always go hang out at www.sensitivethugsneedhugs.com/ATLKingpin

Oh, I see you already have a screen name.:hmm:
 
:lol: JOfromthaNO, I am not the best looking out of my crew, but probably the most conceited...that could have something to do with it, and dang the dudes in my crew getting sweated DO have manicured hands...:lol:

:lol:Femme, that is what I am saying, I am in the A, I shouldn't have to work at all :lol:

:lol: ShadHO and Pussy, being in the A has gotten me used to hatin azz bitches like you two (comin into posts that clearly ask for "ladies"), but your type always seems to stay out of reach of my manicured hands....:lol:

Man, it is all good, you guys gave me a good laugh today...thanks!:lol:



man, you can't be conceited when you don't think you're best looking out your crew.......that's an Oxymoron......
 
man, you can't be conceited when you don't think you're best looking out your crew.......that's an Oxymoron......

Its not just about looks, conceited for a lot of reasons :dance: I never put alot into looks, but I am guessing women do...that's why I made the post, I guess I'm just another guy without a clue...at least I can admit it and laugh about it though :)
 
damn, son, you said forty? you should be married by that age......you're pretty much over, remember that being a player at forty isn't a good look
 
Its not just about looks, conceited for a lot of reasons :dance: I never put alot into looks, but I am guessing women do...that's why I made the post, I guess I'm just another guy without a clue...at least I can admit it and laugh about it though :)
OK, I'll apologize for clowning you earlier, but seriously, if you're going to a club and whatnot, you have to look good, can't bypass that. seriously. act you're if anything, I heard you say no homo, which means you're homophobic, but you need to stop that 20-something talk, seriously, and I dont' know what age you prefer, but if you go for 25 and up, you'll do fine. another thing is you have to have confidence in yourself, but dont' come off as arrogant. give the woman a decent conversation and she'll call back. if she doesn't, then, hey, you're in ATL, with 5-8 million other mofos, which means more fish to catch. I wouldn't invest too much in one girl. if you attract the ugly one, then treat her good, and maybe, JUST maybe, she'll tell the pretty ones about how you treated her. Just have a good time with her. What else can go wrong? it can go around that you're actually mature and women love that about an older man, that's they don't fuck with cats their own age. You're forty, so look into esquire or something. Hey, the clothes make the man. I don't know what kind of apparel you wear, but if you're forty, or reaching forty, you should be like Jay-Z with his "grown and sexy" look. Just dress up on the regular, women love that, that means you put time into how you look. and YES, do care about your looks becuase it shows to the beautiful women who put time into their looks, seriously. the Ugly ones probably didn't put that much effort into their looks so that could be why you've been gettin those. Just invest in yourself and you'll get a better return, but you have to be consistent, don't just do it on club nights, make yourself do it for you. Good Luck and I do apologize if I did clown you earlier.
 
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damn, son, you said forty? you should be married by that age......you're pretty much over, remember that being a player at forty isn't a good look

Man you are damn right, was married to a model chick, hit some hard times, and she dipped. She did burn up all my money, my credit, and my self esteem. Got up to 300lbs, fought all kinds of depression, went through an angry mode, dealt with a bought of serious illness my daughter had, etc., etc. (Don't make me get another Colin...)

I just decided I didn't want to die like that. I started hanging out with the younger, less judgemental people, lost 70lbs, and got some (not all yet) of my swag back. I know I will probably never find true love and rebuild the family life that I thought I had, but I am going to have fun trying:dance:
 
Man you are damn right, was married to a model chick, hit some hard times, and she dipped. She did burn up all my money, my credit, and my self esteem. Got up to 300lbs, fought all kinds of depression, went through an angry mode, dealt with a bought of serious illness my daughter had, etc., etc. (Don't make me get another Colin...)

I just decided I didn't want to die like that. I started hanging out with the younger, less judgemental people, lost 70lbs, and got some (not all yet) of my swag back. I know I will probably never find true love and rebuild the family life that I thought I had, but I am going to have fun trying:dance:


Well being 40 ain't going to make it much easier hon. You shouldn't be in clubs. You should do lounges like www.taboobistro.com or www.sambucarestaurant.com . If you are that refined enough to know to get a manicure, then you should know of these spots already.

If you're 40 and still trying to date 20 year olds well, happy hunting is all I can say.
 
Man you are damn right, was married to a model chick, hit some hard times, and she dipped. She did burn up all my money, my credit, and my self esteem. Got up to 300lbs, fought all kinds of depression, went through an angry mode, dealt with a bought of serious illness my daughter had, etc., etc. (Don't make me get another Colin...)

I just decided I didn't want to die like that. I started hanging out with the younger, less judgemental people, lost 70lbs, and got some (not all yet) of my swag back. I know I will probably never find true love and rebuild the family life that I thought I had, but I am going to have fun trying:dance:


Trust me, bro, you'll find true love, but not in a damn club. seriously, go to a meeting with people who do the same thing you do career wise or something, go to networking events just to go to them, and meet all types of people. Hail, even go to church, never hurt nobody. Go to the gym, workout. You have to work on yourself before you can go out there. I would stop hanging out with younger dudes, because more than likely, they don't see you as a serious person, unless they actually rely on your wisdom. I would just surround myself with my family and my true friends. you'll find that person. just have to be patient. I don't know if you're looking to get some ass or a serious relationship, but going to a club will not get anything serious. go to a museum or something, go to social events in ATL, I mean, DAMN, it's ATL, as many women as there are out there. Not everybody is in their twenties over there. Take a vacation in the carribean or something. Join some type of club just to kill time. Maybe a toastmasters club. Seriously. go to the gym to better your health, or just buy gym equipment and get yourself in shape. Just concentrate on yourself, learn to love yourself and others will notice that. Good Luck, and I'll send you the check in the morning. :lol::lol: I'm just kidding.

some of the women in here(if not all) are pretty insightful so I'd pay attention to them as well. Femmenoire usually seems like the most mature(from what I've read) so I'd ask her
 
anotehr thing is if you hang out with twenty-somethings, they are just as confused as you, seriously, they haven't found their niche in this world so you being around is like going backwards, trying to be young. you're not young, but you have to appreciate your age and WISDOM
 
Well being 40 ain't going to make it much easier hon. You shouldn't be in clubs. You should do lounges like www.taboobistro.com or www.sambucarestaurant.com . If you are that refined enough to know to get a manicure, then you should know of these spots already.

If you're 40 and still trying to date 20 year olds well, happy hunting is all I can say.

Another good point here. Even though your crew is considerably younger than you, you want to take Femme's advice, and find some spots where women more your age and speed will be at. You'll also find more women at those spots who will be more proactive in "playing the game" and pursuing you.
 
Well being 40 ain't going to make it much easier hon. You shouldn't be in clubs. You should do lounges like www.taboobistro.com or www.sambucarestaurant.com . If you are that refined enough to know to get a manicure, then you should know of these spots already.

If you're 40 and still trying to date 20 year olds well, happy hunting is all I can say.

Maybe I wasn't clear....my ex wife left me and I just happened to be 40, I didn't choose to be single at 40, but it's all good.

Hell, I was MORE refined than you think, I opened Sambuca (was there opening night), Cafe 290, Intermezzo, Funkjazz, all that...my wife was the type that frequents those spots, so I am staying away from those types of women (oil and water) for a while.

Being a blue collar hood type is a change of pace for me, it is refreshing, though I won't say it is the best thing for me :dance:....
 
Trust me, bro, you'll find true love, but not in a damn club. seriously, go to a meeting with people who do the same thing you do career wise or something, go to networking events just to go to them, and meet all types of people. Hail, even go to church, never hurt nobody. Go to the gym, workout. You have to work on yourself before you can go out there. I would stop hanging out with younger dudes, because more than likely, they don't see you as a serious person, unless they actually rely on your wisdom. I would just surround myself with my family and my true friends. you'll find that person. just have to be patient. I don't know if you're looking to get some ass or a serious relationship, but going to a club will not get anything serious. go to a museum or something, go to social events in ATL, I mean, DAMN, it's ATL, as many women as there are out there. Not everybody is in their twenties over there. Take a vacation in the carribean or something. Join some type of club just to kill time. Maybe a toastmasters club. Seriously. go to the gym to better your health, or just buy gym equipment and get yourself in shape. Just concentrate on yourself, learn to love yourself and others will notice that. Good Luck, and I'll send you the check in the morning. :lol::lol: I'm just kidding.

some of the women in here(if not all) are pretty insightful so I'd pay attention to them as well. Femmenoire usually seems like the most mature(from what I've read) so I'd ask her

Good looks on the advice, I am sending a check, but it is rubber:) I lost a lot of weight already, my body is the second best of my running buddies(one guy is a professional model, haven't gotten him yet), and my best asset...probably why most women think I am arrogant:yes:

I feel what you and femme are saying, I just got active in a church, but I do work nights and I end up only able to go out when most 9-5ers are sleeping. I don't plan to make a life out of this, just having fun while I start over.

Hey, I've had twenty somethings come up to me and say "You look to young to know this song" or "what do you know about old school music"...it's not much, but that part feels really good knowing where I came from:dance:
 
:lol: ShadHO and Pussy, being in the A has gotten me used to hatin azz bitches like you two (comin into posts that clearly ask for "ladies"), but your type always seems to stay out of reach of my manicured hands....:lol:

Be easy 40 year old virgin. Talking that tough shit on the net is not a good look. :hmm:
You might want to work on that sense of humor my nigga. That may help you out with them bitches. :yes:
 
Be easy 40 year old virgin. Talking that tough shit on the net is not a good look. :hmm:
You might want to work on that sense of humor my nigga. That may help you out with them bitches. :yes:

Be easy, I'll say it to your face with no problems on tha real :lol: Hey, I gotta shoot back, but I am not mad :lol: I do look mean though....40 year old virgin....yall crack me up...I probably got more pussy in my day than you are gonna get in a lifetime :lol: (Damn that sounded like an old ass man talking shit)....:lol:
 
ATLKingpin, it really is not a good look for you to be 40 and single. When I see a 40 year old man out in the club and single I know he will never be ready. He should have his shit together by now, is also what I think. Regardless if you have your shit together or not, majority opinions rule and in this case you are outnumbered. Also, you need to try not to be so arrogant sounding. You already got mad points taken away for being 40. Add that arrogance on to that and you are fucked... Try socializing with people closer to your age bracket cause ain't too many women in their 20s trying to be with a man in his 40s unless you ready to spend some money.
 
Be easy, I'll say it to your face with no problems on tha real :lol: Hey, I gotta shoot back, but I am not mad :lol: I do look mean though....40 year old virgin....yall crack me up...I probably got more pussy in my day than you are gonna get in a lifetime :lol: (Damn that sounded like an old ass man talking shit)....:lol:


Aight playa. Its all good. Good luck chasing them bitches mayne.
 
I tried my damndest to stay outta this thread, b/c some of the stuff I heard my man saying had me :smh::eek: But the ideas some of you have about 40+ yr old folks is ridiculous, and obviously written by VERY young folks who still think 40 is like being a senior citizen(wait til you get there :lol:). Being 40 & single is not a good look? To whom? There's prolly a 50% chance SEVERAL of you will be 40 & single. Last I heard, the divorce rate isn't going down. As far as hangin out in the club at 40, do you podna. Personally, I enjoy a lil older crowd. But this juvenile mindset that, by 40, you're living in a house, 2 kids & a wife is gonna be a helluva rude awakening for some of the fam. I wish yall luck.
 
If you are as good looking as you claim you are, women probably aren't fawning over you because they think you are a) conceited or b) have many other women to choose from. No woman (just like a man) wants to compete with other people for the affection or attention of someone who has several people going after them. Being a groupie is not fun or attractive when you're 25+.

I whole heartedly disagree with this. You make it seem like some women have self esteem so low that they can't fathom the idea a man with options actually will check for them so they won't even attempt to "compete" for his time.

Also, seems like you're expecting to be pursued, and not so into pursuing someone you are interested in. Sounds to me like you need to get off your white horse, and get those manicured hands dirty a little :lol: ...

I do agree with this. It's always been a sign of weakness, IMO, that a brotha will say "I don't pursue women, I let them pursue me". Well if that's the case, what are you going to do when the woman you want, isn't checking for you. Are you going to just charge it to the game, or are you going to step to her and see if there is a chance to get down?

All that "I let 'em come up to me" bullshit is a sign of insecurity.

If a female realizes she is wanted, she'll call. But, if she thinks you're into yourself and waiting for her to make the next move, she won't.

:lol: Again, I disagree. If a woman is aggressive about trying to get in good with a man, she'll be calling (and doing a lot more) even if the man could give a fuck about her.
 
ATLKingpin, it really is not a good look for you to be 40 and single. When I see a 40 year old man out in the club and single I know he will never be ready. He should have his shit together by now, is also what I think. Regardless if you have your shit together or not, majority opinions rule and in this case you are outnumbered. Also, you need to try not to be so arrogant sounding. You already got mad points taken away for being 40. Add that arrogance on to that and you are fucked... Try socializing with people closer to your age bracket cause ain't too many women in their 20s trying to be with a man in his 40s unless you ready to spend some money.

It's not a good look to be 40 and single, and you say assume that a 40 year old man automatically doesn't have his shit together? What about a 40 year old man that is single because he is a widower? Does that make him a "loser" too? :rolleyes:

So this brotha "loses points" because he is 40? :confused: If that's the case, then that means that a single woman over 40 is clearly in the red being that "majority opinions rule" and society values women on their physical appearance as a way of determining their worth or "date-ability"
 
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