Dame Dash Speaks on Jay Z & The Roc Break-up.. Real Shit!

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yo, on the low, jay probably a greasy nigga! you see how everybody that's been close to jay (dame, jaz-o, etc) is now slummin. . . .

but i still love hov!
 
Wow. Why do we blacks always sell our shit to white people?

Its called business you sell a company while its still at the top so that it won't be in your hands when it slumps. You can't stay on top forever its a rule of business someone,, if you convince yourself to stay at the top when you hit the ground you will be bankcrupt. Jay-z is a good business man, you can never be successful in business if you are not ruthless . Sometimes you have to look out for yourself , like in dame's instance he should have looked out for himself and not complain about Jay.
 
Wow. Why do we blacks always sell our shit to white people?

White people feed off of power and control. If they can buy something of value from a black person they feel like they are getting some of their power and control back. This is why they make offers that the black business owner cannot refuse.
 
cause thats how the world go white boy.

Let me get this right, you're saying that White people are the only ones smart enough to see past race? Shows how you really feel about Black people you fucking house nigga, go read a book.
 
White people feed off of power and control. If they can buy something of value from a black person they feel like they are getting some of their power and control back. This is why they make offers that the black business owner cannot refuse.

Thats real.........Can you say BET?
 
Why does everything have to be Black and White? Why can't it just be that 3 hustlers from Harlem sold their company to a conglomerate before it fell off?

IF it only were that easy.........

You got a lot to learn

either your white or young and incredibly idealistic (i.e ignorant)

and if your black get your head out of the fucking sand

TOO many young cats running around here with no goddamn sense

NO you are not different --> you may think you are but all white people see is black and they act accordingly

So step you game up so you can survice and thrive in this motherfucker
 
Its called business you sell a company while its still at the top so that it won't be in your hands when it slumps. You can't stay on top forever its a rule of business someone,, if you convince yourself to stay at the top when you hit the ground you will be bankcrupt. Jay-z is a good business man, you can never be successful in business if you are not ruthless . Sometimes you have to look out for yourself , like in dame's instance he should have looked out for himself and not complain about Jay.

Oh Yah!!! So when is Coke Cola selling.When is McDonald selling When is the Reynolds(Aluminum Foil) and Heinz (Ketchup) family selling. Get the picture. This is not smart. If you sell your company you are suppose to be moving to bigger an better thing(like Reginald Lewis).Damon Dash is broke, Russel Simon is trying to start another record label and Robert Johnson is starting another cable network.Why would you sell a hot company just to start another one.Keep the one you got if your not going to move on to bigger an better things.
 
Oh Yah!!! So when is Coke Cola selling.When is McDonald selling When is the Reynolds(Aluminum Foil) and Heinz (Ketchup) family selling. Get the picture. This is not smart. If you sell your company you are suppose to be moving to bigger an better thing(like Reginald Lewis).Damon Dash is broke, Russel Simon is trying to start another record label and Robert Johnson is starting another cable network.Why would you sell a hot company just to start another one.Keep the one you got if your not going to move on to bigger an better things.

Excellent point!
 
Oh Yah!!! So when is Coke Cola selling.When is McDonald selling When is the Reynolds(Aluminum Foil) and Heinz (Ketchup) family selling. Get the picture. This is not smart. If you sell your company you are suppose to be moving to bigger an better thing(like Reginald Lewis).Damon Dash is broke, Russel Simon is trying to start another record label and Robert Johnson is starting another cable network.Why would you sell a hot company just to start another one.Keep the one you got if your not going to move on to bigger an better things.

Dame isn't broke that dude is sitting on money, Rocafella split everything 3 ways including tour money, rap money, movie, clothing, and liquor. back before the split if Jay was sitting on stacks Dame and Big were sitting on their own dough.

I think its hilarious people swear up and down Jay was the only person on Roc and Dame and Big worked for him. Don't get it twisted with out Dame there was no Jay Z. Who do you think was strong arming people to play Jay's music get him on tours etc... before he blew up.
 
Oh Yah!!! So when is Coke Cola selling.When is McDonald selling When is the Reynolds(Aluminum Foil) and Heinz (Ketchup) family selling. Get the picture. This is not smart. If you sell your company you are suppose to be moving to bigger an better thing(like Reginald Lewis).Damon Dash is broke, Russel Simon is trying to start another record label and Robert Johnson is starting another cable network.Why would you sell a hot company just to start another one.Keep the one you got if your not going to move on to bigger an better things.

Coca cola , mcdonalds or reynolds are not fads . The empire jayz, dame and biggz built is a fad that was going to get over anyway. People will be eating macnuggets 200 years from now, aluminium will still be valuable and heinz will still be valuable because they are not fads. In the music industry or entertainment industry you are only hot for a certain period of time before you are replaced. If you think you will stay at the top and be an empire forever in the music game you must be on crack. Look what happens to legends like curtis mayfield and other legends that ceased to be relevant.
In the music game you are Hot today tommorow you are worthless , so its best to sell off while still at teh top and move to better and bigger things.
 
White people buying Black Businesses is more about contol of production (example Coke's purchase of Vitamin Water). Distributors always buy smaller record companies before they become large enough, capital wise to distibute themselves, its the same with most other consumer products. We should remember that control of capital is about being the producer or distibutor of your product.

BTW Bob Johnson is the second largest individual shareholder of Viacom the company he sold BET to, and Dame would have to be a Hammer like idiot to be broke now so I doubt that he is.
 
I fuck wit' Jigga. I used to think he was a shiesty ass nigga too, but everytime I hear his side of the story it's always a reasonable justification. He may be "SELFISH", but he's a businessman and as a businessman being "SELFISH" is the "ONLY" way you'll ever get ahead. Because if you believe that your a righteous person you got to be full of yourself, that way there ain't no room for mistakes. "FRIENDS" bring you down. Ask all them hustlers from the '80s that's doing life behind bars (because of so-called friends turned snitches). All of his real friends are still with him (Ty Ty & Bleek). Anybody that's from the hood know that there are real friends and then there are acquaintances. I made money wit' plenty of niggas in the hood, but where are they now. I don't even fuck wit' em no more. They've moved on and I've moved on.
 
Its called business you sell a company while its still at the top so that it won't be in your hands when it slumps. You can't stay on top forever its a rule of business someone,, if you convince yourself to stay at the top when you hit the ground you will be bankcrupt. Jay-z is a good business man, you can never be successful in business if you are not ruthless . Sometimes you have to look out for yourself , like in dame's instance he should have looked out for himself and not complain about Jay.

yo on the real dame was too concerned with ballin out out and partying and as focused on the business itself. dame was concerned about dame. that was the problem. now he's bitter. he's got what, pro keds and armadele. good luck on that. not tto much profit flowin tho:smh::smh:
 
yo on the real dame was too concerned with ballin out out and partying and as focused on the business itself. dame was concerned about dame. that was the problem. now he's bitter. he's got what, pro keds and armadele. good luck on that. not tto much profit flowin tho:smh::smh:

Real talk.
 
Exactly if dame's business ventures had made him more money than Jay-z he wouldn't be crying. People always become sincere with friendships when they have lost and their friends have gained.
 
This nigga talking bout' "swagger" being lost? Dame sounds like he lost all of his fucking swagger! I hope he didn't actually think he was bigger than Jay-Z........Jay-Z is the Roc, period. Sean Carter will always be remembered for being Jay-Z, one of the best of our time. Dame will be another Suge Knight, a flash in the pan and broke if not careful. Suge thought he was Death Row too and he quickly learned that he wasn't. Dame made some real lame ass moves alledgedly when Jay was away........and it all started with Diplomats and bad business moves. I believe Dame still got cake but he's like Michael Jackson, that nigga miss the fame and spotlight. That's what's hurting his fucking wack-ass ego, nigga gotz no buzz in the hood or main stream anymore. Jigga is still blazin' at 38 years old, with doe, better business moves and the nigga still got a little lyrical skillz left. Damn Dame U like 1 degree from being a certified plug nigga........?:smh::lol:
 
IF it only were that easy.........

You got a lot to learn

either your white or young and incredibly idealistic (i.e ignorant)

and if your black get your head out of the fucking sand

TOO many young cats running around here with no goddamn sense

NO you are not different --> you may think you are but all white people see is black and they act accordingly

So step you game up so you can survice and thrive in this motherfucker

Survive and thrive? Nigga please! Black people stay crying for equality and now that we got it niggaz still ain't happy. If cats would stop sitting around complaining feeling sorry for themselves and started to get with the business maybe THEY could have bought Rocafella and kept it Black owned if it meant that much to them. But no, the White man is holding us down and there's no opportunities. :rolleyes: Nigga you know who doesn't have any opportunities? The African dude in the middle of the Sahara Desert with no stores, jobs, and etc. in site for 3,500 miles not your Black ass sitting in front of a computer downloading free porn get real.

Start appreciating what you have and stop with that "we are the underdog so have pity on me" bullshit. Yeah I'm from the hood but I found out if I was gonna ever gonna make it out I had to get over it. One last thing it's not about race anymore it's about class and wealth. YOU need to step YOUR game up Mr. Black Panther. When are you gonna realize that EVERYONE is getting fucked: Whites, Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, and etc? In 10 or so years there won't even be a middle class anymore but I guess that don't count since they are predominantly White.
 
Let me get this right, you're saying that White people are the only ones smart enough to see past race? Shows how you really feel about Black people you fucking house nigga, go read a book.

No, you idiot. Whites are the only race who can AFFORD to see past race.
 
Survive and thrive? Nigga please! Black people stay crying for equality and now that we got it niggaz still ain't happy. If cats would stop sitting around complaining feeling sorry for themselves and started to get with the business maybe THEY could have bought Rocafella and kept it Black owned if it meant that much to them. But no, the White man is holding us down and there's no opportunities. :rolleyes: Nigga you know who doesn't have any opportunities? The African dude in the middle of the Sahara Desert with no stores, jobs, and etc. in site for 3,500 miles not your Black ass sitting in front of a computer downloading free porn get real.

Start appreciating what you have and stop with that "we are the underdog so have pity on me" bullshit. Yeah I'm from the hood but I found out if I was gonna ever gonna make it out I had to get over it. One last thing it's not about race anymore it's about class and wealth. YOU need to step YOUR game up Mr. Black Panther. When are you gonna realize that EVERYONE is getting fucked: Whites, Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, and etc? In 10 or so years there won't even be a middle class anymore but I guess that don't count since they are predominantly White.

Shut the fuck up, Whiteboy.
 
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