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By TINA A. BROWN | Courant Staff Writer
July 11, 2008
http://www.courant.com/community/news/hfd/hc-cosby0711.artjul11,0,2390607.story

Comedian Bill Cosby came to Hartford Thursday with a serious message about responsible parenting. He urged the adults to stop ignoring the social ills that lead to teenage pregnancy, juvenile delinquency and violence.

Speaking in a wise-grandfatherly tone laced with humor, candor and sermonic themes, Cosby didn't hold back about what he thinks ails a segment of the black community.

More than 1,000 people heard Cosby at the Faith Seventh-day Adventist Church on Woodland Street. The event was organized by Steve Perry, principal of Capital Preparatory Magnet School in Hartford, and the church's pastor, Stephen Williams.

Using slavery in a historical context, Cosby reminded the mostly African American crowd that they represent a community of strong people who overcame unimaginable obstacles, and they didn't do it so that today's generation can flunk out of school, sell drugs or go to prison.

"Today, we have children saying that they won't live to be 25. So, they are doing dumb things, committing suicide on each other. ... If you want to turn your heads, step over the falling people, [then] pay no attention to your children. Apathy! Apathy! That's why I'm here. I want to pull the scab off until it stings. Why don't you speak to your children? Straighten them out," said Cosby, who turned 71 on Thursday.

Cosby urged the audience to be part of the parental revolution. It's "in your homes, your apartment buildings." He said parents should stop being afraid of their children; they should meet their children's friends, text-message their teachers and ask them questions.

"It's time for us to stop looking the other way," he said. "Stop stepping over the stench."

He talked about youngsters who are having children and throwing their lives away. Some of his talk was based on things he learned during his tour across America, some 20 cities a year. In Philadelphia, he said, he visited a program for youths recently released from prison who were supposed to be at his talk to get inspired. When one youth, about 14, slept through part of his talk, Cosby said he woke him up. The boy said he had been up until 4 a.m. with a girl.

"That's all they want to do is have sex because it's all around them," on the radio, TV and videos, Cosby said. "Talk to your children about sex."

Without that kind of dialogue, Cosby said, another generation will grow up without parents. The children might end up in foster care; mothers might end up as drug addicts and fathers as inmates. When the grandmother gets sick, the child ends up in foster care raised by strangers. "There's a child who has to be raised, to be loved, to graduate," Cosby said.

He said parents should kick their drug-dealing kids out of their homes.

"Dirty, nasty drug dealers," he said. "If you have a drug-dealing son or daughter, cut them off. Don't bring that stuff in my house. ... Let's put pictures up of all the dead people who sold drugs. They are no better than the people who put my people in a hole. You can't blame the white people."

Though his speech was serious, Cosby reminded the audience that he is still a very funny guy. Toward the end of his talk he traded friendly jabs with Pastor Williams, who gave Cosby a Bible for a gift. The jabs drew laughter. One of the loudest in the room was at the expense of Hartford Mayor Eddie A. Perez.

The mayor just woke up, Cosby quipped.

"I'm not going to donate [the Bible] to the mayor because he missed the whole sermon. He woke up and got loud," Cosby said.

And, the audience roared.

Contact Tina Brown at tbrown@courant.com
 
Despite FACTS that prove his rhetoric otherwise, this guy still is making idiots believe that Black children and Black parents STILL ain't shit....
 
Despite FACTS that prove his rhetoric otherwise, this guy still is making idiots believe that Black children and Black parents STILL ain't shit....

- true...because every ghetto in america looked like this before bill cosby opened his mouth
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Come to my hood and still say that.

exactly.... and what they doin is going to these churches and forums and shit....go to one of these neighboorhoods and walk down them streets, talk to some of those dudes in the hood... im a obama supporter and i agree w/ cosby, because we have a problem.... but they are borderline being cowards about this....
 
Man even I'm getting tired of hearing Cosby's rant. I agree 100% on tough love. I hate seeing our youth out here looking as they lack for guidance. Of course it's not all of them, but enough to get attention and focus. True, sometimes I wish I could lift up the sidewalk and sweep em under it.

What Cos and many of us Civil Rights era Growns fail to see is that today's misguided, misshapen, neglected, abandoned, fucked up (add your own adjective) generation is a product of us. (And again let me say that I'm generalizing here because by no way do all the negatives that are pointed out represent us as a whole, but it's the negative portraits that garner the most attention and reflect most people's image of us around the world) They are OUR descendants, our seed from a seed one and two generations removed. It was OUR generation that didn't prepare them for what lay ahead. Sure, we carved out huge gains in Civil Rights and forced the Whites to open their eyes to give us respect. But for every overt step we took in correcting a wrong, the Whites took two COVERT steps to maintain it. For every Affirmative Action foot hole we gained there were two REVERSE Discrimination Files claimed.

To sum up this conversation that will go back and forth well beyond my ignored and forgotten rant here, we must begin to shape our own reality, not dance to someone else's tune. Until we as a people can control a Coca Cola and/or a Time-Warner and/or a New York Times and/or a CNN and/or an NBC (you lissenin Cos?) and/or a Universal Studios, our image for the most part will be shaped by those who do. Our generation has failed some of today's youth, lost thousands more. In turn, we've also produced some of the most intelligent, successful, beautiful, courageous and determined youth and we should be proud and celebrate them. They will go on to be the controllers of those CNN-like, Time-Warner-like, Sony-like conglomerates who will begin to take, shape and mold our image into something this whole world will have to reckon with in the years to come

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He might be right, he might not be in the long run. Why do yall hate Cosby is it because he's airing out bad ass kids. I kinda agree with some of this. Why is it Obama and Cosby put folks who don't do what they suppose to and lames get mad. Niggas need to stop leaving Brandon to become a bitch ass bastard all his life who at 32 still cries about daddy.


I'm not mad I don't have kids but God kids. Even with God kids they are in the bed by a certain time. The school they attend is in school year around. They are learn Japanese and Spanish. They also love themselves and their Parents. You won't get mad when You are doing what You need to do with your kids. Its' plan and simple. Some kids cried about not having a dad them lames were bitches. I have Parents and didn't feel sad. I cried about not having a Bentley yet when kids cried about daddy.



"Cosby urged the audience to be part of the parental revolution. It's "in your homes, your apartment buildings." He said parents should stop being afraid of their children; they should meet their children's friends, text-message their teachers and ask them questions.

"It's time for us to stop looking the other way," he said. "Stop stepping over the stench."

He talked about youngsters who are having children and throwing their lives away. Some of his talk was based on things he learned during his tour across America, some 20 cities a year. In Philadelphia, he said, he visited a program for youths recently released from prison who were supposed to be at his talk to get inspired. When one youth, about 14, slept through part of his talk, Cosby said he woke him up. The boy said he had been up until 4 a.m. with a girl" I agree with this.
 
I got no problem with his message its just that dude ain't said nothing new. Garvey, Booker T, Dubois, Douglas have all said the same shit 100 plus years earlier so why are white people celebrating this guy?

And besides shit is meaningless if you can't get work so I don't quite get why only 1/3rd of the equation gets airplay and the rest gets nothing.........
 
Man even I'm getting tired of hearing Cosby's rant. I agree 100% on tough love. I hate seeing our youth out here looking as they lack for guidance. Of course it's not all of them, but enough to get attention and focus. True, sometimes I wish I could lift up the sidewalk and sweep em under it.

What Cos and many of us Civil Rights era Growns fail to see is that today's misguided, misshapen, neglected, abandoned, fucked up (add your own adjective) generation is a product of us. (And again let me say that I'm generalizing here because by no way do all the negatives that are pointed out represent us as a whole, but it's the negative portraits that garner the most attention and reflect most people's image of us around the world) They are OUR descendants, our seed from a seed one and two generations removed. It was OUR generation that didn't prepare them for what lay ahead. Sure, we carved out huge gains in Civil Rights and forced the Whites to open their eyes to give us respect. But for every overt step we took in correcting a wrong, the Whites took two COVERT steps to maintain it. For every Affirmative Action foot hole we gained there were two REVERSE Discrimination Files claimed.

To sum up this conversation that will go back and forth well beyond my ignored and forgotten rant here, we must begin to shape our own reality, not dance to someone else's tune. Until we as a people can control a Coca Cola and/or a Time-Warner and/or a New York Times and/or a CNN and/or an NBC (you lissenin Cos?) and/or a Universal Studios, our image for the most part will be shaped by those who do. Our generation has failed some of today's youth, lost thousands more. In turn, we've also produced some of the most intelligent, successful, beautiful, courageous and determined youth and we should be proud and celebrate them. They will go on to be the controllers of those CNN-like, Time-Warner-like, Sony-like conglomerates who will begin to take, shape and mold our image into something this whole world will have to reckon with in the years to come

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I can go for this but am a lot more pessimistic about our future possibilities.

We just can't seem to break from sports/entertainment (going on 40 years).

- true...because every ghetto in america looked like this before bill cosby opened his mouth
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No, this is what it looks like since he opened his mouth.

Pointing fingers is fun!
 
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Despite FACTS that prove his rhetoric otherwise, this guy still is making idiots believe that Black children and Black parents STILL ain't shit....

I know COZ anit talking about my Family. It aint OUR FAULT some cant tell the difference.

Curious. Wheres all the Boyce Watkins Co-Signers? Shouldn't they be bitching about this too?
 
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These sermons are just so fucking idiotic. People love to preach instead of doing day to day community workt hat can affect real change. People love to preach from the mountaintop about other people instead of engaging in dialogue with those who you are speaking about. Bullshit as usual. Next!!!
 
he said, he visited a program for youths recently released from prison who were supposed to be at his talk to get inspired. When one youth, about 14, slept through part of his talk, Cosby said he woke him up. The boy said he had been up until 4 a.m. with a girl.

Without that kind of dialogue, Cosby said, another generation will grow up without parents.

For the people who don't like his methods, I challenge you to do better. I have no problem with what he is doing. If it upsets you, prove him wrong. Show him that your kids aren't on track to go to jail. Show him that you have college bound kids. Say what you want, but he is in the hood being passionate about making inner city blacks be more responsible and independant.
 
he said, he visited a program for youths recently released from prison who were supposed to be at his talk to get inspired. When one youth, about 14, slept through part of his talk, Cosby said he woke him up. The boy said he had been up until 4 a.m. with a girl.

Without that kind of dialogue, Cosby said, another generation will grow up without parents.

For the people who don't like his methods, I challenge you to do better. I have no problem with what he is doing. If it upsets you, prove him wrong. Show him that your kids aren't on track to go to jail. Show him that you have college bound kids. Say what you want, but he is in the hood being passionate about making inner city blacks be more responsible and independant.

Im busy with work today and im kind of tired of saying the same things over and over as it pertains to this issue and Cos in general so i'll just quote and sign this guys post.

-Amajorfucup
 
These sermons are just so fucking idiotic. People love to preach instead of doing day to day community workt hat can affect real change. People love to preach from the mountaintop about other people instead of engaging in dialogue with those who you are speaking about. Bullshit as usual. Next!!!

In case you didn't know.Cosby puts his money where his mouth is.

He ain't never lied about what is going on.parents scared of their kids.Fathers making babies they ain't supporting( and I am not talking about money support either) Parents benefitting by the drug profits of their kids.Letting Ray Ray register the Lexus in moms name because he got no job.Watching little Shenaka's baby so she go hang out in the club.

This rhetoric has been said and preached for many years going back to Garvey as one poster said but the difference is back then parents listened. Neighbors beat that ass, parents beat that ass. In that day kids that didn't have respect for their elders did have fear. back in the day it was only the white kids that cussed their parents now its our kids to.

Well fukk a 1800 child abuse hot line.I never let them crakkas take my power when it cam to my 5 kids ( all of whom I have raised and supported)

Stop making excuses on why OUR kids are wrong.Stop getting mad when this shit is aired out. DO something about it. Stop saying what else Cosby could be doing and go out and do what he isn't. he speaking on it and acting on it.Can you say you doing the same thing?
 
He might be right, he might not be in the long run. Why do yall hate Cosby is it because he's airing out bad ass kids. I kinda agree with some of this. Why is it Obama and Cosby put folks who don't do what they suppose to and lames get mad. Niggas need to stop leaving Brandon to become a bitch ass bastard all his life who at 32 still cries about daddy.


I'm not mad I don't have kids but God kids. Even with God kids they are in the bed by a certain time. The school they attend is in school year around. They are learn Japanese and Spanish. They also love themselves and their Parents. You won't get mad when You are doing what You need to do with your kids. Its' plan and simple. Some kids cried about not having a dad them lames were bitches. I have Parents and didn't feel sad. I cried about not having a Bentley yet when kids cried about daddy.

:confused:
 
Bout time instead of knocking the kids all the damn time
they learn it from somewhere. Hell some learn from the
streets and don't have no parents for influence. Shit Jesse
Jackson need to start with Cosby..... cuttin his nuts off for talkin down
to black folk!! yeah i said it.:hmm:
 
Man even I'm getting tired of hearing Cosby's rant. I agree 100% on tough love. I hate seeing our youth out here looking as they lack for guidance. Of course it's not all of them, but enough to get attention and focus. True, sometimes I wish I could lift up the sidewalk and sweep em under it.

What Cos and many of us Civil Rights era Growns fail to see is that today's misguided, misshapen, neglected, abandoned, fucked up (add your own adjective) generation is a product of us. (And again let me say that I'm generalizing here because by no way do all the negatives that are pointed out represent us as a whole, but it's the negative portraits that garner the most attention and reflect most people's image of us around the world) They are OUR descendants, our seed from a seed one and two generations removed. It was OUR generation that didn't prepare them for what lay ahead. Sure, we carved out huge gains in Civil Rights and forced the Whites to open their eyes to give us respect. But for every overt step we took in correcting a wrong, the Whites took two COVERT steps to maintain it. For every Affirmative Action foot hole we gained there were two REVERSE Discrimination Files claimed.

To sum up this conversation that will go back and forth well beyond my ignored and forgotten rant here, we must begin to shape our own reality, not dance to someone else's tune. Until we as a people can control a Coca Cola and/or a Time-Warner and/or a New York Times and/or a CNN and/or an NBC (you lissenin Cos?) and/or a Universal Studios, our image for the most part will be shaped by those who do. Our generation has failed some of today's youth, lost thousands more. In turn, we've also produced some of the most intelligent, successful, beautiful, courageous and determined youth and we should be proud and celebrate them. They will go on to be the controllers of those CNN-like, Time-Warner-like, Sony-like conglomerates who will begin to take, shape and mold our image into something this whole world will have to reckon with in the years to come

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I agree with this a lot. I don't black folks can "take over" those companies as far as owning them. But if black people should seek leadership positions in those companies, we might start seeing better quality movies and shows with black folks. And less coonin.
 
In case you didn't know.Cosby puts his money where his mouth is.

He ain't never lied about what is going on.parents scared of their kids.Fathers making babies they ain't supporting( and I am not talking about money support either) Parents benefitting by the drug profits of their kids.Letting Ray Ray register the Lexus in moms name because he got no job.Watching little Shenaka's baby so she go hang out in the club.

This rhetoric has been said and preached for many years going back to Garvey as one poster said but the difference is back then parents listened. Neighbors beat that ass, parents beat that ass. In that day kids that didn't have respect for their elders did have fear. back in the day it was only the white kids that cussed their parents now its our kids to.

Well fukk a 1800 child abuse hot line.I never let them crakkas take my power when it cam to my 5 kids ( all of whom I have raised and supported)

Stop making excuses on why OUR kids are wrong.Stop getting mad when this shit is aired out. DO something about it. Stop saying what else Cosby could be doing and go out and do what he isn't. he speaking on it and acting on it.Can you say you doing the same thing?

This is another simplistic explanation as to why their larger societal problems are more pronounced with a marginalized group.

It's the same ole concept as to when rich people say, "It's poor people's fault for being poor." The critic never realizes that he/she is part of the problem. These problems are human problems and have always existed in one form or another.
 
http://www.hellofriend.org/

The Hello Friend/Ennis William Cosby Foundation is dedicated to fulfilling the goals and dreams of Ennis Cosby. The Foundation equips teachers, parents and students with the practical information and educational tools needed to understand and address the needs of all learners before they experience the corrosive effects of frustration and failure. The Foundation was established in 1997 by Bill and Camille Cosby as a 501(c)(3) public charity.



http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE5DC153FF930A35750C0A966958260
Cosby's Contribution

The largest contribution to a black college was $20 million, which the comedian Bill Cosby donated two years ago to Spelman College in Atlanta for a new academic building and endowed chairs. In 1987 John W. Kluge, chairman of the Metromedia Company, pledged $25 million to Columbia Univesity, to be used for a new financial aid program for minority students.


Bill Cosby Documentary-ReEducation

Putting all that money, time, effort and seeing this shit the way it is, the death of his son, Ennis, I dont blame the man for being pissed the fuck off
 
This is another simplistic explanation as to why their larger societal problems are more pronounced with a marginalized group.

It's the same ole concept as to when rich people say, "It's poor people's fault for being poor." The critic never realizes that he/she is part of the problem. These problems are human problems and have always existed in one form or another.


The resolution starts at home brotha. Can't keep looking elsewhere and then point the finger. We allow society to have the impact it has. We have enough population and financial power to make changes but of course we also have the crab in a barrel syndrome far worse than any other group.

We have to much self hate.We have to many elite feelings.We are black people but we have problems with other blacks be they from the west coast,east coast,midwest, haiti,africa,jamaica. When they had 500000 latins marching in chicago for imigration there were mexicans, Pr's, dominicans,,south americans.

See they know whatever problems they have with each other they will come together for the common good.And that is why they are increasing power and ain't stagnant talking bout injustice and what is wrong with society. Asians have done the same thing.

We look down on each other. We rob and steal and kill each other not those we call the oppressor . We riot and burn our own. We spend money and support our own businesses.We take no interest in our children..

Go to a school play or open house and look at all the empty seats.We don't take an active role in our childrens education them complain about the piss poor schools..get your ass offline and demand more from the schools.

I have had 2 kids finish from the CPL in Chicago and go on to college on scholarship.Not because it was a great school but because my wife and I stayed in that school and on our kids and didn't accept substandard.

We may have been subjected to the inhumane slave trade and racism but so have others in as far as racism.

The biggest problem we have is no sense of self.Much of that was brought on by slavery but if we know the reasons we surely know the solutions.

But as I said it starts at home.
 
Man even I'm getting tired of hearing Cosby's rant. I agree 100% on tough love. I hate seeing our youth out here looking as they lack for guidance. Of course it's not all of them, but enough to get attention and focus. True, sometimes I wish I could lift up the sidewalk and sweep em under it.

What Cos and many of us Civil Rights era Growns fail to see is that today's misguided, misshapen, neglected, abandoned, fucked up (add your own adjective) generation is a product of us. (And again let me say that I'm generalizing here because by no way do all the negatives that are pointed out represent us as a whole, but it's the negative portraits that garner the most attention and reflect most people's image of us around the world) They are OUR descendants, our seed from a seed one and two generations removed. It was OUR generation that didn't prepare them for what lay ahead. Sure, we carved out huge gains in Civil Rights and forced the Whites to open their eyes to give us respect. But for every overt step we took in correcting a wrong, the Whites took two COVERT steps to maintain it. For every Affirmative Action foot hole we gained there were two REVERSE Discrimination Files claimed.

Ironically Im ok with this specifically because he is in a local black church going one on one with the people of the community. And he's not making sloppy generalizations to be blown up by the media.

Seems he's moderated his message lately and thats good.
 
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What Cosby is doing, is getting the ball rolling. Even if he isn't perfect in hid elivery, he's creating some awareness around the issue.

SOMEBODY has to say SOMETHING. Cuz these kids are out of control and we aren't doing them ANY favors by letting them run wild.

FREEDOM comes at a COST.

And WE as black people should know that better than anybody else.
 
The resolution starts at home brotha. Can't keep looking elsewhere and then point the finger. We allow society to have the impact it has. We have enough population and financial power to make changes but of course we also have the crab in a barrel syndrome far worse than any other group.

We have to much self hate.We have to many elite feelings.We are black people but we have problems with other blacks be they from the west coast,east coast,midwest, haiti,africa,jamaica. When they had 500000 latins marching in chicago for imigration there were mexicans, Pr's, dominicans,,south americans.

See they know whatever problems they have with each other they will come together for the common good.And that is why they are increasing power and ain't stagnant talking bout injustice and what is wrong with society. Asians have done the same thing.

We look down on each other. We rob and steal and kill each other not those we call the oppressor . We riot and burn our own. We spend money and support our own businesses.We take no interest in our children..

Go to a school play or open house and look at all the empty seats.We don't take an active role in our childrens education them complain about the piss poor schools..get your ass offline and demand more from the schools.

I have had 2 kids finish from the CPL in Chicago and go on to college on scholarship.Not because it was a great school but because my wife and I stayed in that school and on our kids and didn't accept substandard.

We may have been subjected to the inhumane slave trade and racism but so have others in as far as racism.

The biggest problem we have is no sense of self.Much of that was brought on by slavery but if we know the reasons we surely know the solutions.

But as I said it starts at home.
this is what im talking about.
glad i didnt have to type.
i run a youth program and i can tell you we dont even see most of the parents... they just see it as a place to throw their kids while they go off and get what pleases them... sex money and drugs.
 
Looking back I was kind of about ME as a young lad. Kids cried about not having a daddy. I couldn't feel their pain. I seen my parents everyday. I was like fuck not having a daddy I wanted a Bentley Arnage.



Damn shame. I see what having parents that care can do. I'm glad my Parents cared. I was in everything golf team,AAU basketball, Deca Marketing Club, Robotics team, soccer and when I played my Violin recitals. When my GPA dropped from a 3.9 to a 2.9 they sat me down with various teachers and talked it out.

Needless to say I got a 4.0 that nxt semester.


Some parents today need their head looked at. I help run a vacation bible school class. Some kids are lazy as hell. Today this middle school girl didn't even wanna write her name or read. How hard is it to read??? The kids even had the nerve to have an attitude you are what 13 no real life issues, but You mad at the world. Cosby is right fuck the haters and people that don't agree.

My sociology teacher said,"grown crack babies having kids". I didn't agree but I'm starting to agree.
 
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I hope the truth burns like salt in a wound. Reason being when something hurts people do something to stop the pain. Hopefully the people who Cosby speaks of might wake up with some help.
 
- true...because every ghetto in america looked like this before bill cosby opened his mouth
0154_Heaven_christian_clipart.jpg

The following fact calls into question exactly how did Black children of Black parents make these gains:

"The percentage of non-Hispanic whites (89 percent) and blacks (80 percent) who had a high school diploma or higher marked new highs. The proportion of blacks rose by 10 percentage points from 1993 to 2003, while non-Hispanic whites saw an increase of 5 percentage points in this category."

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/...on/001863.html

In 1972, 21.3% of Black students aged 16-24 dropped out of school. In contrast, in 2005 that figure had STEADILY shrunk to 10.4%.

http://blackdemographics.com/education.html

I'd bet dollars to donuts that that decrease wasn't created by the lessons that "Mudfoot" taught Fat Albert.

Now, for your picture....

I'd bet ANOTHER dollar to your donut that there were plenty of days like that around your neighborhood...that is if you did live in the inner city.

You never went fishing with your boys on a sunny day talking shit about your fish?

You never played a summer league basketball game...and won?

You never walked down the street with your girl?

That picture, as sad a commentary on your mentality as it appears, is what one makes it. If you are looking at that picture from the viewpoint of some crakkker then your view is going to be off because no matter how big the BMW is you drive through the hood, scoffing at those still there, you are still a "ni99a from the 'hood" at your core, and should have the aformentioned memories...unless you hate your "self".
 
I hope the truth burns like salt in a wound. Reason being when something hurts people do something to stop the pain. Hopefully the people who Cosby speaks of might wake up with some help.

What help?

His $25 million donations go to people who don't need his help and are NOT going to come back into the community and help in any measurable form....
 
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