College Grads & Soon to be - Are you thinking about Law School?

[keysersoze]

College Grads who are unhappy with their current career/job and are thinking about going back to get more education like a J.D. or people still in College who are thinking about Law School - what's holding you back?

I went through the process and am in my second year - If you have any questions, put them up - I will be checking this thread frequently as I'm working on a paper and studying for finals and need a break every once in a while.

Its better to post the questions in the BGOL BUSINESS & NETWORKING BOARD thread I made: Ask Your Questions on Getting Into Law School (ongoing answers/posts)

Hopefully, some of the guys that said they are in Law School in a thread on grad school a while back will also pitch in giving advice.

 

[KingFlip]

what are some good schools u recommend? westcoast?

finances?

what are you doing in particular..

great thread.

 

[DAYNE]

how do I become one of those lawyers that be making 10-15 million a year?

 

[Heist]

Note: Take it from someone who knows dozens of lawyers. (Everyone in D.C. is a lawyer or lobbyist of some kind).

Unless you like the law, you WILL NOT LIKE BEING A LAWYER. It's not a job you can do "for the money." That shit will burn you out and make you want to smack someone.

Most people that I know that spent the hundreds of thousands and three years in law school, quit the profession in the first 5 years. Endless hours in the law library and 60-70 hour work weeks were just no fun. And if you don't become partner, you'll be fuck-o-led.

 

[Heist]

how do I become one of those lawyers that be making 10-15 million a year?

(1) Become partner and work 20 years.

(2) Win a large personal injury lawsuit for your client.

(3) Win a large class action lawsuit for your client.


...none of these are guaranteed. You'll be lucky if you clear $150K a year. Nothing to sneeze at, but far from a few million.

 

[Brother Blaque]

Congratulations to all the Black Brothers and sisters on BGOL who are graduating this year.
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[DAYNE]

Note: Take it from someone who knows dozens of lawyers. (Everyone in D.C. is a lawyer or lobbyist of some kind).

Unless you like the law, you WILL NOT LIKE BEING A LAWYER. It's not a job you can do "for the money." That shit will burn you out and make you want to smack someone.

Most people that I know that spent the hundreds of thousands and three years in law school, quit the profession in the first 5 years. Endless hours in the law library and 60-70 hour work weeks were just no fun. And if you don't become partner, you'll be fuck-o-led.

I guess I'm not going to be a lawyer then. Because only thing I want is money.

 

[truplutu]

hey I am currently in a great paralegal program what do you think of that?

 

[DAYNE]

(1) Become partner and work 20 years.

(2) Win a large personal injury lawsuit for your client.

(3) Win a large class action lawsuit for your client.


...none of these are guaranteed. You'll be lucky if you clear $150K a year. Nothing to sneeze at, but far from a few million.

 

[keysersoze]

what are some good schools u recommend? westcoast?

finances?

what are you doing in particular..

great thread.

Best West Coast Schools are Stanford, UCLA, UC Berkley, and USC off the top of my head - there are many good schools - are you speaking of CA specifically?
Bottom line is to graduate from law school in the top 10 percent of your class - that's hard.

Financially - its expensive; expect to be 100K in the hole when you graduate but hey, its an investment.

Personally, I'm taking general law courses to meet my requirements for graduation - I have developed an interest in international law but by the time I graduate, I'd be happy working for a small or mid firm that pays my debts/bills - hopefully, not in corporate law.

hey I am currently in a great paralegal program what do you think of that?

That's a good start - there are many law student friends of mine who started that way and ended up deciding to go to Law School later on - IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL - I have dude in my class who is over 40.

 

[keysersoze]

how do I become one of those lawyers that be making 10-15 million a year?

Work for large corrupt, I mean Corporations - Enron.

(1) Become partner and work 20 years.

(2) Win a large personal injury lawsuit for your client.

(3) Win a large class action lawsuit for your client.


...none of these are guaranteed. You'll be lucky if you clear $150K a year. Nothing to sneeze at, but far from a few million.

Most lawyers would be happy making Partner somewhere and rolling in 150K.

The reality is that most lawyers make an average of of 60-80K a year.

 

[m2m]

Note: Take it from someone who knows dozens of lawyers. (Everyone in D.C. is a lawyer or lobbyist of some kind).

Unless you like the law, you WILL NOT LIKE BEING A LAWYER. It's not a job you can do "for the money." That shit will burn you out and make you want to smack someone.

Most people that I know that spent the hundreds of thousands and three years in law school, quit the profession in the first 5 years. Endless hours in the law library and 60-70 hour work weeks were just no fun. And if you don't become partner, you'll be fuck-o-led.

I thought about law school for a split second... until I sat through jury duty. Attempted murder case with a Mexican defendant, shit was SO boring everyone... I mean EVERYONE nodded off at some point; including the judge.

 

[Heist]

Work for large corrupt, I mean Corporations - Enron.



Most lawyers would be happy making Partner somewhere and rolling in 150K.

The reality is that most lawyers make an average of of 60-80K a year.

Depends on where you're at. Where I'm from/at top lawyers are billing out at $400-500 per hour.

First years are $200-300 per hour.

Partners, dog, you don't even want to know what they're billing at. What they charge should be called legal rape.

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Note: Take it from someone who knows dozens of lawyers. (Everyone in D.C. is a lawyer or lobbyist of some kind).

Unless you like the law, you WILL NOT LIKE BEING A LAWYER. It's not a job you can do "for the money." That shit will burn you out and make you want to smack someone.

Most people that I know that spent the hundreds of thousands and three years in law school, quit the profession in the first 5 years. Endless hours in the law library and 60-70 hour work weeks were just no fun. And if you don't become partner, you'll be fuck-o-led.

*Co-signed*

I was just dating two lawyers that went to UC Hastings last year.Both are highly intelligent but studied 6-8 hrs a day for throughout school and the BAR.Went through 3 years of law school ,were associates at a firm for 2 years then after the BAR got hired.Both of em want to quit.One of em is already in the process of quiting and going back to school to get her MBA and the other is just in limbo.As i said before, these chicks studied and worked for hours on end for YEARS then want to quit after a year.All money aint good money...

 

[PointyHeadPimp]

I'm in law school right now and it's pretty bad. It's alot of work and you only have one test a year in each class, which sux because if you flunk that shit you flunk the class.

Lawyers don't make as much as people think either. My advice is to go into an area of the law that you enjoy. I'm in here because it's one of the easiest jobs where you can work for yourself.

 

[56k]

College Grads who are unhappy with their current career/job and are thinking about going back to get more education like a J.D. or people still in College who are thinking about Law School - what's holding you back?

I went through the process and am in my second year - If you have any questions, put them up - I will be checking this thread frequently as I'm working on a paper and studying for finals and need a break every once in a while.

Its better to post the questions in the BGOL BUSINESS & NETWORKING BOARD thread I made: Ask Your Questions on Getting Into Law School (ongoing answers/posts)

Hopefully, some of the guys that said they are in Law School in a thread on grad school a while back will also pitch in giving advice.

CURRENTLY IN GRAD SCHOOL / NURSING

I KNOW THIS NEUROLOGIST THAT'S GOING BACK TO SCHOOL TO GET A LAW DEGREE WELL I KNOW HE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY AS AN M.D. $200,000 AND ABOVE WHY GO BACK TO LAW SCHOOL JUST WONDERING ????

WITH ME IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AFTER THOUGHT....

 

[Heist]

*Co-signed*

I was just dating two lawyers that went to UC Hastings last year.Both are highly intelligent but studied 6-8 hrs a day for throughout school and the BAR.Went through 3 years of law school ,were associates at a firm for 2 years then after the BAR got hired.Both of em want to quit.One of em is already in the process of quiting and going back to school to get her MBA and the other is just in limbo.As i said before, these chicks studied and worked for hours on end for YEARS then want to quit after a year.All money aint good money...

Point made.

 

[keysersoze]

For a board that's always talking about Injustice - not that many people interested in becoming lawyers?

Do people on the board think that lawyers are part of the problem to injustice rather than fighting against injustice?

 

[LAgreed]

i worked payroll in a large city law firm for a few years. So i pretty much know the average lawyer was making about 65k a year , and worked more than 70 hours a week ... Top lawyers who were there for many years cake in just over 110k .



living in nyc , 65k with all the loans hanging over your head and stuff isn't really worth it , unless you actually enjoy it .

 

[yup22]

Point made.

*Co-signed*

I was just dating two lawyers that went to UC Hastings last year.Both are highly intelligent but studied 6-8 hrs a day for throughout school and the BAR.Went through 3 years of law school ,were associates at a firm for 2 years then after the BAR got hired.Both of em want to quit.One of em is already in the process of quiting and going back to school to get her MBA and the other is just in limbo.As i said before, these chicks studied and worked for hours on end for YEARS then want to quit after a year.All money aint good money...

Law school will get your ass paying back loans for the rest of your life. Now if you can go for free - cool - if not, MBA or a MPA would be a good fit.

 

[livewire]

yeah im deep into the entry process... shit is no joke... just the lsat studyin is off the wall would love to try to gain some knowledge but from some reason talkin about law school on a porn forum kinda fucks up my concentration ya dig!?

 

[^SpiderMan^]

Man if you are about the money I say get into Nursing or Fireman.Firefighters in the Bay Area(California)are easily over 100K.Nurses cake over 100K with plenty of overtime.Going and geting a broad degree(that you have to pay for) to "compete" for a career is not money wise IMO.

 

[DUCE DUCE]

If you search the forum I made a thread like this about a year ago...well I'm still planning on law school but over time i have made some changes to my plans..for instance...what's the deal on patent law? How are job prosects in this field...workload..etc? Although I really want to practice law i want to avoid the traditional path....maybe something in patent law dealing with business/entrepreneurship...anybody here with a jd/mba?

 

[keysersoze]

If you search the forum I made a thread like this about a year ago...well I'm still planning on law school but over time i have made some changes to my plans..for instance...what's the deal on patent law? How are job prosects in this field...workload..etc? Although I really want to practice law i want to avoid the traditional path....maybe something in patent law dealing with business/entrepreneurship...anybody here with a jd/mba?

In order to go into Patent law - you need to pass the patent bar which requires that you have a science degree for your undergrad major.

The patent bar is one of the toughest - under 10 percent of law students take it or qualify to take it.

JD/MBA programs exist but you have to apply to both separately, and they are equally as hard getting in.

 

[DUCE DUCE]

In order to go into Patent law - you need to pass the patent bar which requires that you have a science degree for your undergrad major.

The patent bar is one of the toughest - under 10 percent of law students take it or qualify to take it.

JD/MBA programs exist but you have to apply to both separately, and they are equally as hard getting in.

Well if that's the challenge then that's the challenge...I just hope the job market is good if I go this route...

 

[troutwine]

Man if you are about the money I say get into Nursing or Fireman.Firefighters in the Bay Area(California)are easily over 100K.Nurses cake over 100K with plenty of overtime.Going and geting a broad degree(that you have to pay for) to "compete" for a career is not money wise IMO.

good advice i agree

 

[gonzo8402]

Man if you are about the money I say get into Nursing or Fireman.Firefighters in the Bay Area(California)are easily over 100K.Nurses cake over 100K with plenty of overtime.Going and geting a broad degree(that you have to pay for) to "compete" for a career is not money wise IMO.

That's some realness, right there...

My advice is to go into an area of the law that you enjoy. I'm in here because it's one of the easiest jobs where you can work for yourself.

That's one of the things that makes law so appealing.

 

[DolphinBoy]

Of all the cats that I know who are lawyers, there is only one who is succesful, and thats because his father is a succesful attourney and he had all the connections when he got out of law school. Hes the only one I know who didn't go to law school b/c he wanted to be rich, and hes the only one making the big bucks

Anyone here at at tier 1 law school?

 

[Detroit's finest]

how do I become one of those lawyers that be making 10-15 million a year?

U DON'T AN YOU ENJOY NOT MAKING IT.



FUCK WHAT YOU THINK. YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONNECTIONS. YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU LOVE IT. DON'T DO IT FOR THE MONEY DUMB NIGGA.

 

[gameboy]

any self motivated career or business you enter with money being your only objective will be short lived (law, medicine, politics, entrepreneurship, etc),,, if there is no passion in what you do & your only desire is a big payday, stick to playing the stock market or the lottery

 

[DAYNE]

any self motivated career or business you enter with money being your only objective will be short lived (law, medicine, politics, entrepreneurship, etc),,, if there is no passion in what you do & your only desire is a big payday, stick to playing the stock market or the lottery

in lamens terms: I didn't go to school, so I use this mantra to make me feel good about myself, especially when I run into well educated people

 

[water]

For a board that's always talking about Injustice - not that many people interested in becoming lawyers?

Do people on the board think that lawyers are part of the problem to injustice rather than fighting against injustice?

That is the first thing that came to my mind........

 

[water]

In order to go into Patent law - you need to pass the patent bar which requires that you have a science degree for your undergrad major.

The patent bar is one of the toughest - under 10 percent of law students take it or qualify to take it.

JD/MBA programs exist but you have to apply to both separately, and they are equally as hard getting in.

My boy passed the patent bar last year.......


Considering the millions that will be pouring into alternative energy etc..... it looks like a very viable route......


.

 

[phoenixtroy]

3L here, passed the patent bar in Oct. I have the PLI course available if anyone is interested. lol.

://www.pli.edu/patentcenter/patentbarreview/

 

[HALO2]

College Grads who are unhappy with their current career/job and are thinking about going back to get more education like a J.D. or people still in College who are thinking about Law School - what's holding you back?

I went through the process and am in my second year - If you have any questions, put them up - I will be checking this thread frequently as I'm working on a paper and studying for finals and need a break every once in a while.

Its better to post the questions in the BGOL BUSINESS & NETWORKING BOARD thread I made: Ask Your Questions on Getting Into Law School (ongoing answers/posts)

Hopefully, some of the guys that said they are in Law School in a thread on grad school a while back will also pitch in giving advice.

I thought about it, but I'll stick to medicine..