China "worried" about US Treasury holdings

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BEIJING – China's premier didn't say it in so many words, but the implied warning to Washington was blunt: Don't devalue the dollar through reckless spending.

Premier Wen Jiabao's message is unlikely to be misunderstood at the White House. It is counting on Beijing to help pay for its stimulus package by buying U.S. bonds. China already is Washington's biggest foreign creditor, with an estimated $1 trillion in U.S. government debt. A weaker dollar would erode the value of those assets.

"Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I'm a little bit worried," Wen said at a news conference Friday after the closing of China's annual legislative session. "I would like to call on the United States to honor its words, stay a credible nation and ensure the safety of Chinese assets."

The appeal suggested the outlines of Chinese President Hu Jintao's stance when he meets with President Barack Obama at an April 2 summit in London of the Group of 20 major economies on possible remedies for the global crisis.

Wen gave no indication whether Beijing wants changes in U.S. policy. But economists said his comments reflect fears that higher U.S. budget deficits from Washington's $787 billion stimulus package could drive down the dollar and the value of China's Treasury notes.

"China is telling the U.S. to be careful, not to overspend and keep an eye on the dollar," said Kelvin Lau, regional economist at Standard Chartered in Hong Kong. "There are risks that China cannot control, so they're depending on the U.S. to maintain fiscal prudence and keep the dollar reasonably stable."

Analysts estimate China keeps nearly half of its $2 trillion in foreign currency reserves in U.S. Treasuries and notes issued by other government-affiliated agencies.

"Inside China there has been a lot of debate about whether they should continue to buy Treasuries," said Frank Gong, chief China economist for JP Morgan.

Beijing is trying to increase its leverage at the London G-20 meeting by reminding its partners of its role in financing U.S. spending, Gong said.

"Without China's buying (Treasuries) and continuing to fund U.S. deficit spending, interest rates could have been much higher. That could be very destabilizing in this very recessionary environment," he said. "By attracting a lot of attention to this issue, China is already increasing its influence ahead of the G-20 meeting."

Finance officials from the G-20 meet this weekend. U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is pressing for a new coordinated global stimulus. Japan is supportive but European governments are reluctant to make expensive commitments before they see how current plans are working.

Wen also offered an unqualified defense Friday of his government's policies in Tibet, ignoring questions about a massive security buildup in the Himalayan region.

Tensions have spiked ahead of two key anniversaries this week — the 50th anniversary of a failed Tibetan uprising that sent the Dalai Lama into exile and Saturday's one-year anniversary of violent anti-Chinese riots in Lhasa that sparked the largest protests in decades.

Asked whether the massive security presence pointed to failings in Beijing's policies, Wen said: "The situation in Tibet is on the whole peaceful and stable. The Tibetan people hope to work in peace and stability.

"Tibet's continuous progress (has) proven the policies we have adopted are right," he said.

Wen expressed confidence the world's third-largest economy can meet its official growth target of 8 percent this year and emerge from the crisis "at an early date." But he said Beijing is ready to expand its 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus if needed.

"We already have our plans ready to tackle even more difficult times, and to do that we have reserved adequate ammunition," he said. "That means that at any time we can introduce new stimulus policies."

Communist leaders worry about rising job losses and possible unrest amid a trade slump that saw Chinese exports fall 25.7 percent in February from a year earlier. They have promised to spend heavily to create jobs and boost exports.

Chinese bank lending and power demand have risen, suggesting the stimulus is taking effect. But growth in retail sales is weakening, indicating it has yet to spur private sector spending and investment, which analysts say will be key to its success.

Private sector economists expect growth as low as 5 percent this year. That would be the strongest of any major country but could lead to more waves of job cuts.

"I really believe we will be able to walk out of the shadow of the financial crisis at an early date," Wen said. "After this trial, I believe the Chinese economy will show greater vitality."

Wen also said Beijing wants the G-20 summit in April focus on helping the poorest countries.

The premier said Beijing has met its own commitments to help developing countries by erasing a total of $40 billion in debt owed by 46 countries and giving out 200 billion yuan ($29 billion) of aid to developing countries."

"We must see to it that we show concern for developing countries," he said.
 
the US Govt likes inflation because that allows debts to be easily repaid. China doesn't desire this because it will diminish the value of their holdings. Now this is a crisis, when China refuses to finance anymore of our debt. The Chinese can't be happy with all these spending packages.

good read, I saw something similar on Bloomberg
 
just to play devils advocate here, but where else would china put its money? What other country has the demand we have with the political stability that ensures repayment at some point. I really think they need us as much as we need them.
 
just to play devils advocate here, but where else would china put its money? What other country has the demand we have with the political stability that ensures repayment at some point. I really think they need us as much as we need them.

I agree, but just like the real estate boom, there has to be a breaking point somewhere.
 
just to play devils advocate here, but where else would china put its money? What other country has the demand we have with the political stability that ensures repayment at some point. I really think they need us as much as we need them.

Thats just the issue: 1) We can't pay them back unless Govt reduces spending 2) if we did pay them back, they know its just printing press money (similar to Monopoly, no value)

The people of China would enjoy a dramatic increase in the standard of living if they stopped buying our debt. It's like the chick that always come around askin' for somethin, How long will you put up with it before you look for a new one?
 
Thats just the issue: 1) We can't pay them back unless Govt reduces spending 2) if we did pay them back, they know its just printing press money (similar to Monopoly, no value)

The people of China would enjoy a dramatic increase in the standard of living if they stopped buying our debt. It's like the chick that always come around askin' for somethin, How long will you put up with it before you look for a new one?

I don't know if the Chinese would enjoy any greater improvement in the standard of livng than they are getting now if they stopped buying US Treasuries.

Currently, China is setting itself as the manufacturer to the world.

If you look at China's imports and exports, it is importing raw materials (iron, steel, oil, lumber, cotton, food) and exporting finished products (office & telecom equipment, apparel, machinery, other manufactured goods).

China is not a self-sustaining country. They need a world currency (US dollar) to buy the food/materials to feed/clothe/house their people. In exchange, they provide the world cheap manufactured goods.
 
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McClatchy Newspapers
By Kevin G. Hall
Friday, March 13, 2009


WASHINGTON — The Chinese prime minister's blunt warning on Friday that he fears that his nation's investments in U.S. financial assets may be endangered signals both a need to distract attention from troubles at home and how interrelated the two giant economies have become, analysts said.

Prime Minister Wen Jiabao got the attention of Wall Street and Washington when he said during a news conference that his nation had "lent a huge amount of money to the U.S. Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I am definitely a little worried."

China holds more than $1 trillion in U.S. government debt. Much of its vast foreign currency reserves are in U.S. dollars. If the dollar collapsed or U.S. inflation spiked, the value of those assets could decline sharply. Those scenarios seem highly unlikely but aren't impossible.

The White House fired back at Wen, with spokesman Robert Gibbs noting in his daily briefing that the Obama administration's aggressive actions to right the listing economy help both nations.

"I think the best thing we can do to assure anybody in Washington, America or throughout the world that we're serious is to pass the president's budget and put ourselves back on the path towards fiscal sustainability and fiscal responsibility," Gibbs said. He added that there's "no safer investment in the world than in the United States."

Prime Minister Wen's comments were surprising because the Obama administration has repeatedly praised China for also undertaking a big fiscal stimulus program to spark economic activity amid a downturn.

Why the sudden tough talk from China? Experts suggested that Chinese leaders are feeling the heat at home as the nation's blistering economic growth rate has slowed sharply because of the global downturn.

"They want to keep alive the idea that this problem is a foreign problem, thrust upon them," said Albert Keidel, a China expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a longtime former China hand at the Treasury Department.

The global economic crisis has caused rising unemployment in China, a nation that's become accustomed to the double-digit economic growth of recent years. Even before the slowdown, the Chinese government, which isn't democratically elected, confronted tens of thousands of annual incidents of civil unrest.

"I think they are very sensitive to domestic consumption of the idea that the government is not doing the job in terms of solving the problems of unemployment," Keidel said.

Wen's comments may also reflect concerns that the Obama administration has failed to present a credible fix for U.S. banks.

"I think they're clearly sending a signal to the U.S. that they're very concerned with how we're managing the (economic) crisis," said Steven Schrage, the director of the international business program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "I think they're also very concerned that this could lead to the helicopter jump of money generation, more cash and inflation. As a way out of the huge fiscal problems that we're going to be spending huge amounts . . . which could weaken the value of the U.S. Treasuries they own."

Schrage was referring to infamous comments made by Ben Bernanke, before he became chairman of the Federal Reserve, that in the event of a deep crisis the Fed could always shower money on the nation from helicopters.

Still, Wen's criticism reflects a misunderstanding of China's own risks. In questioning the U.S. ability to make good on its debts, China threatens to undermine the value of the very assets it's holding.

"In a formal sense, China has lent money to the United States because they bought our Treasury paper . . . but in reality China is holding its international reserves, its international cash, in the safest place possible because that is in its best interests," Keidel said of China's dollar reserves. "The U.S. has a long track record of financial responsibility to guard against the kind of inflation that would threaten" China's holdings.

The flap over Wen's remarks also underscores how interconnected the world's two economic engines have become.

"It shows us how interlinked our economies are and long term, if China did start selling Treasuries, it could be hurting itself, since the value of the rest of the Treasuries could go down," Schrage said. "We're really in the same boat on many of these issues."


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/63979.html
 
Now they are demanding One Global Currency:eek:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090325/ap_on_re_as/as_china_global_currency

BEIJING – China is calling for a new global currency to replace the dominant dollar, showing a growing assertiveness on revamping the world economy ahead of next week's London summit on the financial crisis.

The surprise proposal by Beijing's central bank governor reflects unease about its vast holdings of U.S. government bonds and adds to Chinese pressure to overhaul a global financial system dominated by the dollar and Western governments. Both the United States and the European Union brushed off the idea.

The world economic crisis shows the "inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system," Gov. Zhou Xiaochuan said in an essay released Monday by the bank. He recommended creating a currency made up a basket of global currencies and controlled by the International Monetary Fund and said it would help "to achieve the objective of safeguarding global economic and financial stability."
 
In my best Barney Frank voice................Hey China, you're a bunch of predatory lenders, you knew we couldn't pay this money back :D
 
China Warns Federal Reserve Over 'Printing Money'

China has warned a top member of the US Federal Reserve that it is increasingly disturbed by the Fed's direct purchase of US Treasury bonds.

Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, said: "Senior officials of the Chinese government grilled me about whether or not we are going to monetise the actions of our legislature."

"I must have been asked about that a hundred times in China. I was asked at every single meeting about our purchases of Treasuries. That seemed to be the principal preoccupation of those that were invested with their surpluses mostly in the United States," he told the Wall Street Journal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...arns-Federal-Reserve-over-printing-money.html
 
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